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cultstatus
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posted October 24, 2016 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Approximately 4 times in 6 months?
Obviously this is not healthy and I've had enough but I would love to understand WHY this is happening.
He has promised so much yet when we have a breakdown in communication he just cuts me off in the most insensitive cold way as if he doesn't even know me.
What bothers me the most is that I didn't even want this relationship and was so unsure for so long but he really convinced me to trust him.

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posted October 24, 2016 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Cultstatus,

The first thing that stuck out to me was your Mars Square uranus in the composite chart at a tight orb. This usually points to an erratic on/off relationship. However, I have seen couples who have been very committed to each other for long terms with this aspect. The only difference was that the orb was much wider (about 6-8). It also manifested in a different way for them -- they would have abrupt or out of the blue confrontations and arguments. However, they don't see that as a valid excuse to give up on each other.

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posted October 24, 2016 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Starry. I feel constantly bind-sighted when this occurs and it puts me under so much emotional stress- it is super unhealthy. I haven't heard from him in a few days since this happened.

Do you think our relationship will continue in the future? Will it evolve from this or remain stagnant? I don't think I could allow him back in my life after this time.I'd love to hear some more interpretations of the relationship you guys see so I can come to a better understanding of it all.

It just baffles me because we had made so many plans for the future, I had met his family, we were very supportive of each other and its been destroyed over what I perceive as his inability to communicate or be committed to the relationship in challenging times.

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posted October 24, 2016 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh dear,

I have Mars square Uranus (tight) in composite with Mr Gemini too, as I am an Aquarius. Our relationship has been on-off hundred times that I can not remember how many times in more than 3 years. The longest time we can spend our time together without a break up is only a month, that's the first month of our relationship.

I have found it's not really a committed and a stable relationship.

I too didn't want the relationship when he asked me, my inner voice told me that he was better off as a friend and I made a mistake by not listening to it because I was so touched by how he tried to convince me like he brought me into his home and met his Mom. Second time my inner voice also told me to "RUN" when he aggressively forced me sexually, I made another mistake because I was swayed by how he already talked about marriage. Ugh, I was so naive. lol.

I think you need to really listen and aware to "what bothers me". Open your eyes. I have the same aspect in composite, Mars square Uranus (tight) and Saturn. I have felt like wasting my time in pain, hurt, and sadness in more than 3 years. I should not be too forgiving. lol.

Listen to your guts, girl.

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posted October 24, 2016 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So are we of the consensus that Mars square Uranus is never going to work?

I was of the belief that challenging Aspects of instability and friction could be overcome if the two parties are mature enough?

Are there any cases of successful committed relationships with this aspect or is it a lost cause?

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posted October 24, 2016 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes we feel betrayed when our partners do not measure up to our expectations of them. It's usually a time of disillusionment that defines whether or not a partnership will be able to survive. Although I am sure you both have your sides of the story, I think there is more you both should learn to lay out on the table. When we are hurt, and someone touches upon a wound of ours, our most instinctive reaction is to close up and stop communicating. You might be readily able to talk things through, but he is not. That's just how he will cope with hurt.

He has venus, sun, merc, chiron and juno all in Gemini in 5th house of creativity, fun, romance but it's squaring your jupiter and opposing your own venus/saturn in 10th which is more career/goal driven. Yours is a more authoritarian tone since it is the house of Saturn. You yourself have a venus conjunct saturn too on top of that. I suspect that it can be a damper to him, especially since he has DC in Leo, with his moon there, and he has a huge cluster of personal planets in his 5th house (very Leo-themed). His is a playful and sunny disposition. Maybe try to keep things a bit light-hearted, not everything has to be exact/precise/perfect. You value good communication in relationships because you have Virgo on your DSC. The ruler is Mercury, which you have in your 11th house and it's squaring his pluto. This brings about struggles when it comes to your ideal relationship which involves constant and good communication.

My cousin and her husband (together for 14 years and ongoing) has composite Mars Square Saturn (5'). However, they have it in 8th and 5th house. I see the husband constantly trying to manage their resources together (8th house) while it's conflicting with my cousin's need to go out and have fun (5th house). He's always complaining about how my cousin is always going out and they need to cut down due to finances.

I will check back with more later. I'm not a pro astrologer but I am just basing this on real relationships with other people that I see fitting in relations to your chart.

I don't think any bad square is an all-doom and gloom aspect, tight or not. There are couples who have made it work.

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posted October 24, 2016 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cultstatus:
So are we of the consensus that Mars square Uranus is never going to work?

I was of the belief that challenging Aspects of instability and friction could be overcome if the two parties are mature enough?

Are there any cases of successful committed relationships with this aspect or is it a lost cause?


I have questioned it before awhile ago in another thread because I have the same struggle and still hoping lol.

The only truth I can tell you, as in my composite has tight aspect, is you will not have a stable relationship with those Mars square Uranus in composite. On-off is so common that lead to uncommitted relationship, until both mature I guess too? And it needs a long time to wait a Gemini boy realize being mature because they are the peter pan who doesn't want to be an adult.

I am too lazy to see my composite with someone I have relationship with. I check my composite after years in ****** relationship. lol. Todd said it's the classic Mars square Uranus (tight)/saturn in composite.

If I could turn back the time, I would listen to my guts, but I couldn't, so I have learned in a painful way.

It's your freewill then. I vote for those aspect that causing bunch of on-off uncommitted and broken promises.

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posted October 24, 2016 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starry your evaluation is so on point. One thing he did say when he broke up with me this time is that I am stopping him from going out, partying and doing things with the boys which I have never stopped him from doing - in fact I've always made a point to say you can do whatever you want and I would never ever want to get in the way of your freedom. He has chosen to spend a lot of time with me and not invest in the other things. To me it appears its either one or the other to him rather than finding balance between social and intimate relationships.
I do require clear, direct and respectful communication to be happy in a relationship and I'm not wondering if he is even capable of meeting these expectations.
He says my expectations for relationships are unreasonable. I do not agree..

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posted October 24, 2016 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When a partner is holding you responsible for their unlived life, and you are truly not holding them back, that is a sign that they need to take responsibility for their own stuff in such a huge way, and further efforts to relate are likely to be fraught with projections and unfair criticism...

I mean there is a chance that your desire to be together could have shaped this person's actions... But the thing with Mars square Uranus is exactly this, no matter what there will be the urge to break out. Maturity is necessary because a mature individual can tell the difference between healthy forms of "breaking out" (which take into account their own needs on a regular basis and meet them in creative ways) and unhealthy forms (letting it build up and then exploding and breaking up...).

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posted October 24, 2016 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your Saturn opposes his Venus and squares his Mars. It's legit - he does feel restricted even thou you may not even realize it. It's what Saturn does best.

He has a Gemini stellium in his 5th house...he likes to play, play, play.

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posted October 24, 2016 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yungang_grotto thank you that is exactly what I needed to hear and has helped me tremendously.

I feel like once he sees me living my life and not chasing him he will come back again. I just don't believe he even understands that it is necessary for him to learn how to deal with this energy constructively and I don't feel I can go through it all again even if he felt that he could.

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posted October 24, 2016 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you have every right to draw that line. If a partner can't figure out what they need even when we tell them as best we can from our perspective what would make the relationship work, and (as a friend) when we let them know what we see in their actions and modus operandi which isn't serving them... and they don't take the advice... And they can't change... then there is a significant difference in terms of needs and energy between the two parties, at the least.

Usually if we perceive a huge problem, and they perceive a problem too, and it can't be resolved, and things are going in circles, then the less aware party will continue to drain and drag the other party through the mud because the dragger isn't getting the help they need... or the relationship itself is protecting them from learning the most needful lessons (so often to be learned alone!).

And then yes... one finally realizes that there is a difference which is too great, an issue to do with maturity/seeing eye to eye, and it is officially time to establish more healthy boundaries for your own sake.

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posted October 24, 2016 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So ya take the ball back into your court and keep it there. Don't give him the ball again! He can't be trusted with the ball, at this point!

(Hope my additional.input is also helpful, if not, discard it! I'm glad I could help at all.)

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posted October 25, 2016 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it is definitely appreciated.

I am wondering, other than this aspect, or if we didn't have this aspect - how does the rest of our composite look?

Is it good? Bad? Mediocre? I honestly thought this was the person I would end up with so it's hard to adjust my thinking at this point in time as much as I know I need to.

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posted October 25, 2016 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi cultstatus,

I am very understanding of your situation. yung also laid out some very good points too. Don't be too hard on yourself for feeling like you should have listened to your gut. What's done is already done, you made a choice at that time which you thought was right and it turns out it wasn't. It's ok. We all make wrong choices/bad choices. What you should focus on now is accepting. Accepting the fact that it's ok to make the wrong choice, but atleast you took the risk and now finally realized. What have you learned from this, about yourself?

These are the workings of life. You want them/they don't want you. They want you / you may not want them. It's a series of trials and errors for us to evolve. But remember that at the end of the day you make the choices that you think is most suitable for you.

For now, accept the reality of the situation, being that you both have different values and needs and they are not complementing. It's ok to be different but it needs to be complementary in some ways. In this case, it doesn't sound like it is.

No exception for half-assed people coming in and out of your life. You know what you want. If you don't then take time to find out, but put your foot down and take action. Believe it or not, I am going through similar so I understand your position.

Don't expect or force yourself to adjust your thinking right away. Maybe just let some time pass and let it be where it is now. Good use of time can offer some clarity. Its ok to feel torn, sad, disappointed, let yourself go through the motions but believe that you will get through this for the better.

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posted October 25, 2016 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The squares to Neptune are far from ideal (though a little wide, I would still count them). This composite shows a great affection and familiarity with Moon conjunct Venus. I can appreciate why you might have felt very positive about this relationship. But the Sun-Mercury/Neptune square shows a tendency for illusion and disillusionment--also a possibilIty of willful deception which is in the interest of keeping the relationship alive and positive but actually serves to undermine it. Honesty is so important with these aspects, and without a bunch of really solid Saturn contacts to the same configuration (especially) it's very difficult to get a strong handle on what's really going on and make sure you steer a course with awareness and both feet on the ground.

The Sun/Moon midpoint is aligned with the nodes, which is an indicator of fatedness. The relationship has been an important one for learning.

The Saturn Chiron opposition is difficult.. an absolute necessity for the greatest maturity and dedication to purity of motive and wisdom of long suffering and deep understanding. In this case, again, the maturity and dedication required for a sensitive and constructive use of these energies is simply not evident, astrologically (in the rest of the composite), or from your accounts.

The Moon.Sun quincunx also denotes a very essential difference in your approaches to the relationship and your understanding of it. His approach has likely always been more cerebral, yours more romantic, and you don't necessarily appreciate or underrated fully what the other is experiencing.

Also on an internal level, the entire relationship is on uneven footing as the quincunx between Sun and Moon is really one of the most fundamentally difficult aspects in astrology... the benefits of harmony of Sun and Moon can't be overstated, especially in romantic astrology. Of course tension and incomprehension can force change and learning and creativity and inspiration... I wouldn't say difficult is BAD but it's certainly difficult...

Anyway along with the Mars Uranus square I definitely wouldn't say this is a "good" composite, either, if pressed. I wouldn't choose to enter into a relationship with a person with whom I shared it. (My doubts exist whether we can do this or not, but I would try to sidestep if I could...).

The thing that has held it together is the Jupiter Saturn trine--Jupiter and Saturn are masters of longevity and sustainability... knowing when to apply pressure, when to let loose and enjoy, how to time things, how to work together... that's there to a decent extent... and the Moon Venus conjunction, obviously also a very strong aspect for love and affection.

Otherwise, I could go on about why and how other aspects are also very very difficult and compromising.

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posted October 25, 2016 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi yung, I have this aspect with someone right now, and although wide I am going to probably break things off. Would you be willing to take a look at our synastry and charts? I will make another thread for it

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posted October 25, 2016 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which aspect? I can look.

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posted October 25, 2016 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all, it is far better to look at the transits to your chart. Your Moon ~19 Libra can be taken as a relational point in your chart. Your first 'no' was on target, because this is not a good time for you to expect a relationship that is stable and can meet reasonable expectations.

Transits:

- Pluto 15 Capricorn has been and is re-applying to exact square to your Moon.

- Uranus 22 Aries has been and is re-applying to exact opposition to your Moon.

- Mars now 19 Cap transits square your Moon.

- Saturn has been and is re-applying conjunct your natal Venus, just before your Saturn return.

There are some periods in our lives in which it is unrealistic to expect a relationship to gain footing and grow in a healthy manner. You picked a helluva time. If these transits were happening to someone in a committed relationship that is stable, they'd be trying enough, but doable. (I've been through similar transit clusters the last couple years myself, and my marriage is still good and growing through the challenges.)

What bothers you most is that your 'no' was on target, and you gave in to a man's pressure. How about you tell him 'no' now and get your power back? Or how about just withdrawing all expectations and let him go his own way. I think he eventually will even if you don't break it off.

When Neptune transits fully into mid-Pisces it will square your Venus in mid-Sagittarius. Things will dissolve well enough then if things don't first become intolerable for you with the tightening Uranus/Pluto transits to your Moon. However, I suggest you not fool yourself with a blame game that it was all him. If you are disaffected it doesn't matter if he was uncommunicative or drifts.

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posted October 26, 2016 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because he isn't the one for you, and the right one is out there waiting to meet you.

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posted October 26, 2016 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon McAfee thank you so much for taking the time to respond to me. I must admit I never really look at transits that much, I am still trying to grasp other concepts of astrology, but after researching the ones you've mentioned I can see how integral they are to the overall energy at play.
I must admit for the last few years I've felt as though I've been treading water, making decisions that will positively impact my life (finishing my degree, moving to a big city) but I can't help but wonder when will things ease up and when will I be able to enjoy the lighter side of life?
It's very lonely being in a big city without family or a support network, and with financial and career pressure it's challenging to stay positive at times.

Any idea when I can expect a shift As far as transits go?

Your insights are very much appreciated, thank you!

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posted October 26, 2016 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems everyone has focused on the problematic aspect.
I would add that with Juno conjunct the node, you have high expectations for this relationship. I believe he breaks up when you start acting "domesticly" or talking about the future. He breaks up to let you know subconsciously that he has no desire for marriage etc
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posted October 26, 2016 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohhh lol well if that does it, that's what I did.

Whoopsydaisy (this is synastry and natal though, his Juno on my north node, my Juno conjunct my own South Node...).

But I don't think it was that simple. Anyway, food for thought, food for thought.

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posted October 27, 2016 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cultstatus, you'll start to feel some relief by middle of next month as Jupiter nears your Moon (and stays near it until Sept 2017), but it will likely also bring some drama in which you feel more able to get some things out into the open and deal with them.

One of the best investments anyone can make with astrology is to get a copy of Robert Hand's Planets in Transit and track your own transits, at least the slower moving ones (Jupiter and beyond). With your Moon at around 19 Libra, you've just started the transit of Pluto square it this last year or so. You'll have about 4 more years of it.

With the Uranus transit opposite your Moon, that will be done by April. You'll probably feel it letting up in March. That is also when Jupiter transits back close to your Moon again, this time without Uranus making things as unpredictable or unstable.

Those transits do show a lot of major change and suggest having to deal with it without the support or social relief you'd like. You'll probably see it as one of the toughest periods of your life looking back on it. Everyone has similarly tough periods with clusters of tough astrological transits. One good, trustworthy friend can go a long way to feeling better about the changes.

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posted October 27, 2016 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't mind, would you tell me how old he is? Sometimes it might just be immaturity and not Astro (not at all saying either of you are immature).

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