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Faith
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posted December 30, 2016 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 30, 2016 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh god, my father's Saturn is conjunct my Sun by 2 degrees. My Saturn-NN conjuncts his Jupiter.

Also his Sun is conjunct my IC exactly..

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posted December 30, 2016 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 30, 2016 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 30, 2016 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Saturn is in Libra. My dad is Libra Asc.

His Sun is conjunct my MC
His Saturn parallel my Dsc

My 10HR is conjunct his IC
My 10HR is parallel his IC

Our Composite Saturn is in 4H

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posted December 30, 2016 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks for answering, firemoon!

My father's sun on my IC, too, if my chart is right.

I wonder if the Saturn/father connection is more obvious in our case because we're Capricorns. (?)

One reason I asked is to see whether or not it applies with everyone else, as much as it applies with me (or with Capricorns in general).


Yes, interesting question! Sorry it probably goes without saying there's a connection for Cap Suns..

Although then I wonder about Cancers and their moms? lol idk astrology is just so fascinating..

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posted December 30, 2016 11:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I`ve read that repeatedly too and symbolically it makes sense that Saturn figures into the parental axis, maybe father. though in my case, hmmm. My Saturn is actually conjunct my MOM`s ASC-Uranus. but then again my Mom is configured heavily with my MC, too, which is the symbolical Saturn-angle.
While my Dad is more found in my IC-configurations and also my Aqua-Moon, a mirror of his Aqua Sun (and incidentally conjunct his Venus-Jupiter in Aqua) - so I wonder if maybe in my chart there has been a role reversal going on concerning the parental figures?

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Anyway you had questions....


"Does your Saturn aspect anything in your father's chart? Does his Saturn aspect anything in yours?"

his Saturn (exact on his own ASC):

quinkunx my Moon (1,5)
sextile my Saturn (1,5)
quinkunx my Chiron (1)


my Saturn:
opp. his Mercury (2)
quinkunx his Chiron (1,5)
square his Neptune exactz
sextile his ASC (1)


"Composite Saturn, how does it aspect your charts?"


c-Saturn 17 Leo:

opposite my Moon exact
trine my Chiron (2)


conjunct his Pluto exact
sextile his Neptune exact
trine his Chiron exact
quinkunx his Mercury (1)
opp. his Venus (3)


So, if you tell me what you think about how the effect of this is or would be, I will tell you if you are right.

EDIT
I actually looked at our composite for the first time, and it struck me to see such exact overlays to Mr Sag`s chart.


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posted December 30, 2016 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 30, 2016 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 30, 2016 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
@Firemoon

Yes, I'd like to see a study like that, too.

edit - was thinking of my Cancer SUN son, not Cancer moons. Brain glitch.


Aww, I didn't know you had a Cancer Sun son..

I won't pry into your synastry I'm just curious about my Cancer Sun guy's mom tbh since I still haven't met her yet.. although apparently she's into astrology (I had no idea lol) so I suppose I can find out soon enough

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Originally posted by Faith:
Hahahhaa

"Ummmm wait. This reminds me of....my dad?!?! "

#BeenThere
#DoneThat

It's only astrological though. Temperamentally my husband is nothing like my father, despite many conjunctions, including Saturn conjunct Saturn. Which was mind-blowing to discover, and a little disturbing. LOL


Yeah Mr Sag has some conjunctions to my parents chart


his Mercury is on my Dad`s IC (5 degrees though)
his Ceres on Dad`s NN
his Vesta on Dad`s Moon
his NN on Dad`s Avx


There are more interesting overlays to my Mom`s chart though


his SN on her Ceres (1)
his NN is actually only 7 degrees of her SN
his Mars-Jupiter on her Mars--SN-IC
( i never even realized before that both my parents have Mars on their SN natally and I have it on my NN. lol so they are the best teachers I could have picked! and apparently I picked my youngest brother and his son with thehir Neptune on SN for teaching me about Neptune on NN. lol)

his Saturn-DESC-Vertex on her Moon

his Uranus on her Vertex

his Sun-Moon-MC on her Chiron

his Ceres on her Jupiter

his Vesta opp. her Sun

Well I just found his Saturn-Vertex-DESC right on my Mom`s Moon pretty impressive. lol
and their Mars-Mars-conjunction.


But most impressive are the overlays to my youngest brother`s chart I think.

ASC conjunct ASC exact
Ceres conjunct Mars exact
IC conjunct NN (3)
Mars-Jupiter opp. Sun (5)
Saturn-Vx-DESC conj. Vx-DESC
Uranus opp. Chiron exact
Mercury conj. URanus exact
actually it is
Mercury conj. Uranus/Jupiter/Moon. lol
Sun/Moon/MC conjunct Neptune/MC/IC
SN conj. Mercury

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posted December 30, 2016 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith,
thank you Parallels are amazingly active in my synastries. I wish people would give them more credit.

I know, you asked about our Saturn, but I just noticed one other aspect:

His Saturn conjunct my Dcs (1) o.O

PS. just an extra info: my chart has been rectified. Despite unpopular opinion on this board, both of my parents, my grandparents and my child finally interract with my natal chart

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posted December 30, 2016 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ That is just uncanny. The Saturn theme plays out in so many ways.
It's like he's watching over you, even now, astrologically. As if the Universe was trying to compensate through the stars for having taken him away too soon.

Even if that sounds a bit weird, I do think patterns like that repeat for a reason. (says my Pallas-Merc).

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Originally posted by Liliya:
My Saturn is in Libra. My dad is Libra Asc.

His Sun is conjunct my MC
His Saturn parallel my Dsc

My 10HR is conjunct his IC
My 10HR is parallel his IC

Our Composite Saturn is in 4H


On the angles..! That's very significant. I like how you included the house placements. It all fits together in this picture.

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Originally posted by Faith:
OMG!!!

Wish come true! Hi Elysia!!!


*biiig sheepish grin*

Hi Faith!! How have you been??

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Originally posted by Faith:
I'm good, thanks! You?

Lately I've been feeling kinda...

But I'm better now.

One day at a time.

Missed seeing you and feeling clingy.

How shall I un-cling?


Oh please don't !!
I was just saying the same thing on the Cappy moon thread..

I'm sorry you've been feeling like that.. Is it because Pluto is still messing with your Sun? Or things at home? It's cool if you'd rather not talk about it, but I'm here if you do..
I hope the 9 year ends those feelings for you, and 1 (2017) can bring new beginnings..

About the OP.. Aaah.
Hmm.. I've actually been too scared/reticent/apprehensive to look into my synastry with either of my parents much. I had taken a sneak-peek long ago, but that's pretty much it.

I can tell you that my natal Saturn squares my Sun-Merc-Mars. That's telling in and of itself, in a way. That's sort of the theme, I suppose because - I remember my Saturn squared his Sun, Merc and his Saturn squared my Merc/Mars. Don't think there was any planet on the angles..
I wish I could think of more positive stuff about that for this thread. :/

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posted December 30, 2016 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks a lot, Faith..
Please don't feel like you have to apologize..! It's actually good in a way - I'm working on accepting things. So it *is* healthy to bring these to the fore and sort through them. I'm trying to do that on my end anyway.

His venus squares her nodes? And Saturn opposing Moon can also feel a kinda strict perhaps? -- I mean, I don't know, I'm just guessing, coz when I've been Saturn opposing a moon, the loving & the expressing get separated and a bit hard to reconcile. I'm glad they have you to smooth things over for them.

Yes, me shall definitely try to hang around. Love being here, talking to you.

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