posted January 05, 2017 05:24 AM            

I have been exploring Davison relationship charts recently.

When looking at this Davison below, it showed something that the composite did not. The full 10th house, which in RL represents an aspect of the relationship that is destined to be in the public eye, or shared publicly.

I never saw this in the composite, which is turning me on more to the Davison as this aspect of the relationship in question is one of the most bonding factors in the relationship.
Despite it having the potential to be a "professional" project, the subject of the project is very much an emotional experience for both parties, and therefore provides benefits to the romantic relationship.

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I noticed a kite formation also, with Sun@16Leo, sextile Mars@15Gem and NN@17Lib, but, d.Vertex appears to be the apex opposing Sun, which I know some would not consider a kite.

However, my partner's n.Sun is @15Aqua, which I feel could complete the kite, should Vertex not be appropriate.
Also, the d.North Node is conjunct my n.Mars@18Lib, so both Vertex and NN can be replaced by natal placements of myself and my partner.

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ETA: I just noticed another kite, an upside down one, with d.Neptune @13Sag, sextiling d.Pluto @12Lib and d.Vertex @14Aqua (or partner's n.Sun @15Aqua) with d.Mars @15Gem opposing d.Neptune.

--- perhaps the orbs are a bit wide for this one?

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Is this pattern completion appropriate between Davison-Natals?

Can anyone help me interpret this kite if it is a true kite?

Does anyone see longevity on an emotional level aside from the 10th house project, or are they inextricably linked astrologically?

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Many thanks in advance!

The Davison:

posted January 05, 2017 09:01 AM            

However it IS interesting that your partner`s Sun completes that Kite. So I think it`s in his hands to make this Kite fly, by expressing himself, giving his energy to the relationship but also being receptive to the energy in the relationship. He will direct the flow of energy, and of course be energized in return.

There will be a lunar eclipse on his Sun this year so this should be very interesting to watch how that will effect your Davison as well.

BTW both charts are valid, composite and Davison, Davison however seems to cover more precisely the manifestation in the physical world (well composite can do that too of course, but not to the extent maybe as Davison does).

with a full 10th house in Davison this definitely is a relationship that will be seen (by the public) and of course it can also mean it is project or workoriented, or simply will show itself as an official one (including marriage potential), and possibly shaping the surroundings, too. You might be influential to a lot of people around you.

posted January 05, 2017 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It`s not a "true Kite" in terms that it is an aspect figure only present in Davison.

However it IS interesting that your partner`s Sun completes that Kite. So I think it`s in his hands to make this Kite fly, by expressing himself, giving his energy to the relationship but also being receptive to the energy in the relationship. He will direct the flow of energy, and of course be energized in return.

There will be a lunar eclipse on his Sun this year so this should be very interesting to watch how that will effect your Davison as well.

BTW both charts are valid, composite and Davison, Davison however seems to cover more precisely the manifestation in the physical world (well composite can do that too of course, but not to the extent maybe as Davison does).

with a full 10th house in Davison this definitely is a relationship that will be seen (by the public) and of course it can also mean it is project or workoriented, or simply will show itself as an official one (including marriage potential), and possibly shaping the surroundings, too. You might be influential to a lot of people around you.

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Thank you for sharing your knowledge Ceridwen!

So, are kites only to be found in synastries then?

That's very interesting about him flying the kite. Many holes in the road of this relationship have been from him withdrawing right at the point when he should step up. I have had to come to terms with surrender far more than I am used to (prominent Pluto and Saturn in my natal) and also develop some patience! (Mars on ASc.)

I'll have to check out the date for the lunar eclipse and note it down, see what happens.

Yes, I have seen merit in the composite, but it did not show our project, and it runs through every fibre of our relationship, so that kind of put me off.

So if the Davison is the physical manifestation, would you say the composite is the psychological manifestation?

posted January 05, 2017 11:21 AM            

Our suns are 6 degrees apart, so I guess we will both be feeling this one.

It will trine my Mars which conjuncts Davison NN, so if there's anything to it, the whole configuration should be affected.

ETA: Not directly related to this thread, but as well as the lunar eclipse on my Sun, I will also have my Mercury return on the same day.

posted January 06, 2017 08:57 AM            

"That's very interesting about him flying the kite. Many holes in the road of this relationship have been from him withdrawing right at the point when he should step up."
that makes sense.

"Yes, I have seen merit in the composite, but it did not show our project, and it runs through every fibre of our relationship, so that kind of put me off."
Can you post the composite. It`s peculiar that such a thing should not show up. I bet I can find it in there.

"So if the Davison is the physical manifestation, would you say the composite is the psychological manifestation?"
In a very general statement yes, but they intermingle of course.

I think I have put it down like this in another thread:

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That is Dawn Bodrogi`s take on the difference between composite and Davison
"The Davison chart is a midpoint chart in time and space. We say that a lot, too, without explaining it. Davison discovered that if you calculate the exact point in time and the exact point in space between any two birth charts, the resulting chart was a powerful tool. It’s a midpoint chart that is not theoretical, but anchored in real space and real time. If you were born in 1950 and I was born in 1960, our Davison chart would occur in 1955. The chart is calculated from the adjusted birth time and place. (The birthplace may end up in the middle of the ocean; it doesn’t matter.) Is this also a chart of the relationship? Yes, it is. Is it different from the midpoint chart? Some say no, just work with them and pick your preference. I say yes, they are different, for a good reason.

The midpoint chart is a powerful map of an energetic pattern–our hotspots as a couple. It’s our charisma, our union, who we are when we are together. It is inner-oriented, focused around the pure expression of the energy that occurs when our two like planets meet. The Davison, like all time/space charts, is anchored not in pure expression, but in physical reality. It describes who we are together within our particular life circumstances. Therefore the Davison chart is expressed through the physical reality of our lives. It sees our relationship being acted upon by circumstances, places, other entities/beings involved in the partnership. It has a life of its own, and can be progressed the way any normal chart is progressed, because it has a real time and a real place to anchor it. (Progressed midpoint charts consist of taking the two individual progressed charts and making a midpoint chart from them.) Now here comes the big question, which is more valid? I say both, and I use them both, in different circumstances, depending on the questions being asked of the partnership.

Since the Davison reflects the physical here and now (it’s still a theoretical chart, but it’s grounded in mundane reality) I prefer to use it for physical here and now questions. Mother-in-law issues, or kids driving you both crazy? Davison. Is a move going to affect our relationship? Davison. A third party invading our relationship? Davison to get the picture, and the midpoint chart to figure out why. We feel as if we’re coming apart at the seams, everything is dissolving. Midpoint. We’ve headed into a good patch in our relationship, how long will it last? Midpoint (and Davison if there are specific causes for the good vibes–new job, etc.).

Both charts are highly sensitive to transits (both the actual composites and progressed composites). And both charts are extremely revealing when you put the natal charts around the composite in a biwheel to see how each person reacts to the relationship dynamic (more on this later). Putting a triwheel in place with transits and one of the natal charts will give you an instant, clear picture of one person’s experience of the relationship, and show you how the transit affects both the individual and the partnership." http://theinnerwheel.com/2012/04/18/composite-charts-etched-in-stone-or-sand/

If that is true, and some astrologers probably would say composite and Davison are really basically the same and hence disagree with the differentiation, but let`s just try it out this way, if that is true, then I think Davison might be more EVENTORIENTED and showing TANGIBLE RESULTS in our PHYSICAL REALITY.

Example:
in an event-composite I have Sun conjunct Venus: I might be receptive to love and open to fall in love and hence experience falling in love.

same Sun-Venus-conjunction in an event Davison, I might either DEMONSTRATE my appreciation for something or someone or might be receiving such.

In fact I had a Sun-Venus-conjunction in the Event-Davison of the concert last friday, and at the end of it I was - of course just as part of the show - given a rose. (Sun/Venus)."
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