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Rosalind
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posted January 08, 2017 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind        Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect with someone. He is 9 years older than me. My NN in Aries conjuncts his SN in Aries and viceversa. Read somewhere its a sign of true soulmates. It is true?

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posted January 08, 2017 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc        Reply w/Quote
Rosalind, it means you both help each other develop and grow in future. Your Aries qualities help him to become more independent and proactive. And his Libra strengths help you to learn to relate to and accommodate others.

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I have this aspect with someone. He is 9 years older than me. My NN in Aries conjuncts his SN in Aries and viceversa. Read somewhere its a sign of true soulmates. It is true?

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posted January 08, 2017 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite        Reply w/Quote
Do you think this assistance with helping each other to grow and develop would be relevant even if the orb for the conjunct of NN to SN is 8?

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posted January 08, 2017 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc        Reply w/Quote
Amphitrite, IMO it depends on whether they are in the same Zodiac sign and dwad (10d third of a sign). In general I use wider orbs inside the same sign and dwad. Midpoints and other placements in between can also bridge the influences together.

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Do you think this assistance with helping each other to grow and develop would be relevant even if the orb for the conjunct of NN to SN is 8?

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Rosalind
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posted January 09, 2017 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind        Reply w/Quote
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Rosalind, it means you both help each other develop and grow in future. Your Aries qualities help him to become more independent and proactive. And his Libra strengths help you to learn to relate to and accommodate others.


If that is so, the lesson was failed to be learned and I will go on with my life and waiting to learn another lesson. Thank you.

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posted January 09, 2017 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I have this aspect with someone. He is 9 years older than me. My NN in Aries conjuncts his SN in Aries and viceversa. Read somewhere its a sign of true soulmates. It is true?

I don't know if it's true, I think it's impossible to say, but it's definitely hugely meaningful.

I have the node reversal with Eckhart Tolle and don't even know where I'd be without him, even though he's "just" an author and teacher.

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posted January 09, 2017 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't know if it's true, I think it's impossible to say, but it's definitely hugely meaningful.

I have the node reversal with Eckhart Tolle and don't even know where I'd be without him, even though he's "just" an author and teacher.


Thank you, Faith.

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posted January 09, 2017 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven        Reply w/Quote
I have two people close who I have this with. My mom and my sis in law. My mom's is exactly opposite, sis in law 3 degrees difference. They both have north node in Virgo. I notice it most with sis in law how annoying it is. I know her for 14 years now. It's annoying because she is developing traits I have naturally But also annoying the things that are typical to my norh node. Those are which I can be inpired by but I feel annoyed. Say like we had a new years diner date with some people. She was supposed to bring something but I wanted to ask her a few things to make sure all was arranged well. I couldn't get in contact with her. Phone disconnected. Why specifically on this day?! I knew I had to let go and go with the flow. It would arrange itself, everything would be as it should. Trusting the universe etc.. Instead of wanting to be on top of the planning. So I had to, I had no choice.
I feel it more with her maybe than my mom. Sis in law has the same moon sign, same degree and mercury's are exactly conjunct and MC/IC exactly opposite. With my mom I don't feel the same annoyance. My mom's also extremely neptunian but also very Virgoan. It's funny how these thins work. You definitely have good way of growing opportunity here. And aren't we all souls meeting up somewhere in time? Can definitely be a very important connection! It is no rule though I believe.

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posted January 09, 2017 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven        Reply w/Quote
Funnily the north node right now is exactly conjunct my south node!! WOAW!! Thank you for reminding me of this and my north node path! I also feel different today, I was just thinking, like I have grown an inch. Things like astrology and how transits work for instance or what are the rules for soulmates. It's much more a playful thing, the universe likes to play, a game of creation, of letting go and creating new ways in the eternal now. More and more becoming masters of our own path. Taking responsibilty. I suddenly lost interest in how I have looked at things, being still in 'the box' which I am not a fan of by nature. Just wanted to share with you because it's about a reverse nodes thing but then by transit. HOW COOL!!! It has activated this in me.
Keep us posted ok?!

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posted January 10, 2017 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin        Reply w/Quote
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posted January 10, 2017 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire        Reply w/Quote
I have NN in Capricorn cnj. her SN.
Pluto is aproaching the degree

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yungang_grotto
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posted January 10, 2017 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto        Reply w/Quote
My daughter and my mom have reversed nodes. My daughter and my s.o. have nodes reversed almost exact, 0'07 degrees.

This, like North Node/Vertex/Descendant conjunction in the composite, seems to me time and again to indicate a shared contact or group of people which brings the two together repeatedly or links them in a profound way.

In the case of my daughter and my mother, that link is me--and blood obviously..

In the case of my daughter and my ex/friend/s.o., whatever he is--similar situation. Their connection is facilitated by a third party (myself) and wouldn't exist otherwise.

With the Nodes it's always useful for me to consider the standpoint of cosmobiology, which really stresses group associations...

Of course there are other meanings as well, and the fact that there are shared contacts isn't in itself anything too remarkable... except that it's usually very clear that the two wouldn't have met or been brought together were it not for the fated workings of the group/another individual. And that's kind of important.

It's only one aspect of the association of course, but usually an important one to consider.

From the depth astrology perspective we would emphasize the significance of the individual nodal signature and how that could be influenced by the other person's relationship with their own nodal signature

... which isn't so simple as "I already know my south node so I'll teach you about it since that's where you're going"... this doesn't apply to everybody. If we think in terms of Evolutionary Astrology, there are a number of conditions under which the lessons of both the South and North Nodes need to be learned more deeply in this lifetime.

So it's going to be very case specific, but from my own observations in my personal life and in other cases as well, I have found the most consistency in interpretatipn with applying the cosmobiology perspective first (that the Nodes relate to group associations and shared connections/our relationship with the fabric of the whole of society and experiences with others in the greater context of our lives--I'm sort of paraphrasing there but you get the picture).

After all, our contribution and connexion to the whole is very important... the Nodes are like the nexus point in our personal chart of collective fatedness... they always seem to bring others into the mix.

Like when transiting North Node was conjunct my Part of Fortune and I suddenly was in touch with 20 people who were wanting to rent my cabin... That kind of thing...

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posted January 10, 2017 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind        Reply w/Quote
I was more interested in the synastry between lovers. Between mother/daughter, siblings and stuff I know how things work because I share this aspect with my sister. Thank you, anyway!

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posted January 10, 2017 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto        Reply w/Quote
It is going to limit your understanding of relationship astrology if you're only able to look at relationships in two categories, romantic and non-romantic. My comments about the cosmobiology and the importance of taking into account the individual nodal signatures apply no matter what the energy/intent of the relationship is... it will still be useful to look deeply into the individual signatures...

I understand that the node reversal has different connotations energetically when we are considering it through the lens of "fated romantic love," but that lens can seriously limit our full understanding of the real implications of the aspect...

The Nodes travel slowly. You share reversed nodes with a huge segment of the population, and you might by chance wind up being in touch with several people who have that reversal with you. They're not all going to be the one and only, be-all-end-all soul mate; although they might all have vibrations of soul mate about them...

It can indicate a common soul group then, right? Theoretically, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.

I wouldn't ignore the fact that you have this aspect with your sister when considering it's implications for your romantic relationship... I think that could be a useful clue.

It depends on what you want to understand about it.

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posted January 10, 2017 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto        Reply w/Quote
If you just want to hear "yes, true soul mates!!" Then yeah you can find that in various places. And it might be true! Just like your sister and you are likely one variety of soul mate.

But why does it mean that? What's the deeper meaning of you and your sister and this person all sharing a nodal axis configuration? I think that makes it more interesting, personally.

What does soul mate mean to you? Do you accept that there could be soul groups? Cause that's what the Nodes relate to most in my eyes.

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Rosalind
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posted January 10, 2017 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind        Reply w/Quote
Nevermind.

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yungang_grotto
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posted January 10, 2017 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto        Reply w/Quote
Sorry if I was being too forward/imposing/judgmental/defensive with my theories and perspectives... Just trying to offer some ways to look at this configuration beyond what has already been said in various ways on the forum and elsewhere. I think we should be free to offer these perspectives even when the questions are in regards to personal dynamics and priorities so that when people search for this aspect they can think about these possibilities... Sorry if they don't resonate with you. Hope you find what you need.

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posted January 11, 2017 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire        Reply w/Quote
I can identiffy with what you say yungang,
I have met this girl not so long ago, and i believe it would only be possible trough this friend of mine, for me to meet her.

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posted March 01, 2017 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SirenSong        Reply w/Quote
I have this with a kid, and I could feel him so strongly! We were quite alike, through the generational differences.

I kind of think of it as twin dragons.

I also had it with my kid brother's best friend and the same similarities were there. They are both dear to my heart and I will never forget either one.

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posted March 01, 2017 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria        Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I think it definitely depends on how you define "soulmate." But setting that word aside, it definitely means you're here to help one another on your life path - however, I would take the house placements into account as well since the nodal axis is going to be the same for everyone born within 2.5 years of each other.

I started a thread awhile back to consider this because of an interesting nodal coincidence I share with my current partner: his NN in Pisces in the 4th house and my SN in Cancer in the 12th house, making my NN in Capricorn in the 6th house and his SN in Virgo in the 10th house. Very interesting. (And yes, he is 22 years older than me.) We each seem to have mastered qualities and areas of life that the other needs to learn. I definitely feel it and I think he does too.

All this is to say that every relationship is about growth. Not possession, not staying together forever, but growth and learning and helping one another along life's path, IMO.

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