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ChildofVenus
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posted February 10, 2017 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This man is married yet he keeps flirting with me. Is he attracted to me? This is our synastry I don't know his real birth time. I'm just wondering why he keeps being flirty towards me when he is married. I'm the outside (red).

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posted February 11, 2017 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 11, 2017 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be hard to say WHY? He has a sense of aggression to you, perhaps. His Mars conj your Sun, but, moreover, there is a Moon square and I don't think this relationship would really be simpatico, no matter what it was.
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posted February 11, 2017 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know his birth time so the Moon square may not be accurate. There is nothing going on between us. I wouldn't get involved with a married man. I am just curious about what is happening in our charts. He knows that I know he's married which is why I don't get why he flirts. But he does flirt with me sometimes. What do you think about the Venus trine Saturn double Whammy?
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It would be hard to say WHY? He has a sense of aggression to you, perhaps. His Mars conj your Sun, but, moreover, there is a Moon square and I don't think this relationship would really be simpatico, no matter what it was.

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posted February 11, 2017 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Married men who don't take marriage and commitment vows seriously flirt all the time. They flirt because they can, because they are bored, because they want to see if other women find them attractive...It may not have anything to do with you.

But since you asked...

I see no nodal conjunctions between you two, unless it would be ascendant which we don't know. The DW saturn trine Venus is not that powerful because because both of those aspects have wide orbs. But should one of you have Capricorn or Aquarius Ascendant, that should give more power to that wide DW.

Tighter more significant aspects:

--Your mercury squares his sun. Your Saturn exactly opposes his Mercury. Your Uranus almost exactly trines his Venus. Not exactly binding aspects.

--The BIGGIE or heavy hitters: Natally you have a trine between Moon and Mars. Well, his Pluto trines both of those personal planets of yours, and your pluto trines his sun, hence the mutual fascination. I say "mutual" because if he didn't generate some kind of interest in you, you wouldn't have bothered finding out his date and location of birth, pulling out his chart and posting it here. No one does for this just out of curiosity about people they don't care about.

Plutonian matters can be compelling, even when one is not Plutonian. Last night's eclipse fell on his Venus, so there will be more clarity about what is going on with him romantically.

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posted February 11, 2017 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ETA: honestly, I suspect you will get involved with him and it will likely result in heartbreak for you as Saturn in Sagg will square your Pisces Venus at some point in the near future. Also keep in mind that the upcoming Venus retro trajectory started on your Venus at 26 degrees of Pisces. So you are particularly affected.

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posted February 11, 2017 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you think I will get involved? He's married I am not going to get involved with a married man. I asked this question out of curiosity. Because I just can't believe he would constantly flirt with me when he knows I know he's married and has family.

Are you saying that my Saturn will square my Venus? I already have Venus square Saturn in my natal chart. Also what is Venus retro trajectory?

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ETA: honestly, I suspect you will get involved with him and it will likely result in heartbreak for you as Saturn in Sagg will square your Pisces Venus at some point in the near future. Also keep in mind that the upcoming Venus retro trajectory started on your Venus at 26 degrees of Pisces. So you are particularly affected.

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posted February 11, 2017 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Why do you think I will get involved? He's married I am not going to get involved with a married man. I asked this question out of curiosity. Because I just can't believe he would constantly flirt with me when he knows I know he's married and has family.

Are you saying that my Saturn will square my Venus? I already have Venus square Saturn in my natal chart. Also what is Venus retro trajectory?


I am saying that transiting Saturn currently in Sagg will square your Venus in Pisces in the near future. Saturn square Venus transit usually brings a feeling of denial of relationship/love or heartbreak

Regarding Venus retro, you might find this thread of interest: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/237307.html

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posted February 11, 2017 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well what do you think about this synasty between this other guy and I? He's on the outside we aren't in a relationship but we've been hooking up off and on. This isn't the married man though it's a different guy. I don't know his birth time either but I his Pluto makes aspects to a my personal planets.


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I am saying that transiting Saturn currently in Sagg will square your Venus in Pisces in the near future. Saturn square Venus transit usually brings a feeling of denial of relationship/love or heartbreak

Regarding Venus retro, you might find this thread of interest: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/237307.html


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posted February 11, 2017 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This other guy, again, no nodal conjunctions. Unless it is from his ascendant which we don't know.

And you have your Saturn in Sagg conjunct his moon and square his Venus. Ouch...

In a romantic synastry chart, I look for nodal contacts. I Look for binding Saturnian aspects. I look for Venus aspects.

also I think about the timing. Is there an upcoming hard Saturnian/Plutonian/Uranian/Neptunian transit to someone's personal planets, most likely not a good time to start a new relationship.

ETA: With this other guy, you have no real venus aspect besides an inconjunct Venus/Uranus aspect. No moon contact. ...What is holding you together?

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posted February 11, 2017 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are you Leo rising 27 degrees?

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posted February 11, 2017 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With this guy we do have Moon conjunct Mercury in composite also I read that Moon conjunct Saturn in synastry is a binding aspect. There is also Sun oppsition Venus in our synastry. We've been hooking up since 2015 we may actually have a Moon contact in synastry I don't know though because I don't know his real birth time yes I am Leo at 27. Do you see where this guys Pluto makes aspects to a lot of my personal planets? My Venus, Moon and Mars his Mars also squares my Venus.

I mean there has to be something going on in our synastry hence the reason why we've been hooking up for so long.

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This other guy, again, no nodal conjunctions. Unless it is from his ascendant which we don't know.

And you have your Saturn in Sagg conjunct his moon and square his Venus. Ouch...

In a romantic synastry chart, I look for nodal contacts. I Look for binding Saturnian aspects. I look for Venus aspects.

also I think about the timing. Is there an upcoming hard Saturnian/Plutonian/Uranian/Neptunian transit to someone's personal planets, most likely not a good time to start a new relationship.

ETA: With this other guy, you have no real venus aspect besides an inconjunct Venus/Uranus aspect. No moon contact. ...What is holding you together?


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posted February 11, 2017 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I mean there has to be something going on in our synastry hence the reason why we've been hooking up for so long.


"hooking up" is an interesting and very modern concept of relationship. So I went back and looked again at your natal chart and i noticed the infamous Uranus square Venus aspect, almost exact.

Your chart is a map of your psyche. With your Venus/uranus square, you will tend to value unpredictable, unconventional, non committed relationships. Hence the hooking up.

I have met people with this aspect, and part of them really long for something stable and steady, they long to find "the one" that they will settle down with, but there is a part of them who will create unstability once they find stability. This is an area that I am not qualified to advise on.

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posted February 11, 2017 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people handle their venus square Uranus by settling down with someone who is vastly different from them, someone who might be much younger or much older, someone from a different social or economic background, different race or religion, or a long distance relationship. In other words, there is a strong element in terms of differences that maintains some kind of separation within the couple.

It usually works if both parties in the couple have Uranus/Venus aspects in their natal charts, along with some binding Saturn aspects.

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posted February 11, 2017 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I was in a relationship with the same guy for 9 years. After awhile things became retuine and then the guy started talking about marriage and having a family. There were also other issues going on but I ended things between him. So I do know what it's like to be in a stable relationship. Yes I do enjoy hooking up with this guy but you're saying that there really isn't a attraction between us? We also have a Venus/Pluto aspect in our synastry and one in our composite.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
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I mean there has to be something going on in our synastry hence the reason why we've been hooking up for so long.


"hooking up" is an interesting and very modern concept of relationship. So I went back and looked again at your natal chart and i noticed the infamous Uranus square Venus aspect, almost exact.

Your chart is a map of your psyche. With your Venus/uranus square, you will tend to value unpredictable, unconventional, non committed relationships. Hence the hooking up.

I have met people with this aspect, and part of them really long for something stable and steady, they long to find "the one" that they will settle down with, but there is a part of them who will create unstability once they find stability. This is an area that I am not qualified to advise on. [/B][/QUOTE]

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posted February 11, 2017 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see well this guy who I hookup with is older than me and he does come from a different background, socially and economically. He doesn't have the Venus/Uranus aspect in his chart though. It's my Saturn that makes aspects to his personal planets. We have Mars trine Saturn in composite.

But there has to be something in his chart that causes him to like unstable relationships.

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Some people handle their venus square Uranus by settling down with someone who is vastly different from them, someone who might be much younger or much older, someone from a different social or economic background, different race or religion, or a long distance relationship. In other words, there is a strong element in terms of differences that maintains some kind of separation within the couple.

It usually works if both parties in the couple have Uranus/Venus aspects in their natal charts, along with some binding Saturn aspects.


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posted February 11, 2017 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well I was in a relationship with the same guy for 9 years. After awhile things became retuine and then the guy started talking about marriage and having a family. There were also other issues going on but I ended things between him. So I do know what it's like to be in a stable relationship. Yes I do enjoy hooking up with this guy but you're saying that there really isn't a attraction between us? We also have a Venus/Pluto aspect in our synastry and one in our composite.

I didn't say that there really isn't an attraction between you. I was looking for aspects indicating longevity and stability, which is something people usually want to know if they are enquiring about a relationship.

You feel you had a stable 9 years relationship. But you previously referred to it as "hooking up". This really shows how differently people view stability. I would never refer to a stable relationship I was in as hooking up. So what is a stable relationship will vary greatly depending on one's Venus, moon and 7th house aspects.

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posted February 11, 2017 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But there has to be something in his chart that causes him to like unstable relationships.



He has Venus square moon in a wide orb. And he has Moon trine Uranus.

Moon trine Uranus would make him like unconventional relationships. But he still longs for stability, hence him wanting marriage and a family.

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posted February 11, 2017 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No the guy who started talking to me about marriage and having a family is a different guy I'm sorry if I confused you. But without his birth time it's hard to say if he actually does have the Moon/Uranus aspect. I do believe he does have the Moon square Venus aspect though. I can just tell from his behavior.

So basically I would need to be with someone who is ok with unconventional relationships? Or someone who also has a Venus/Uranus aspect in their chart?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
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But there has to be something in his chart that causes him to like unstable relationships.



He has Venus square moon in a wide orb. And he has Moon trine Uranus.

Moon trine Uranus would make him like unconventional relationships. But he still longs for stability, hence him wanting marriage and a family.

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posted February 11, 2017 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square Venus in a natal chart makes a person like unconventional relationships? I didn't know that.

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posted February 11, 2017 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Moon square Venus in a natal chart makes a person like unconventional relationships? I didn't know that.

lawd, I didn't say that. I mentioned that aspect but didn't elaborate on it.

I said Moon trine Uranus would make someone like unconventional relationships.

Moon square Venus can show conflicting emotions.

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posted February 11, 2017 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see you don't think there is any attraction between us? I mean we have a few sexual aspects in our synastry.

Venus opposition Pluto
Moon trine Mars
Mars trine Mars
Moon trine Pluto
Venus square Mars


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[b]Moon square Venus in a natal chart makes a person like unconventional relationships? I didn't know that.


lawd, I didn't say that. I mentioned that aspect but didn't elaborate on it.

I said Moon trine Uranus would make someone like unconventional relationships.

Moon square Venus can show conflicting emotions. [/B][/QUOTE]

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posted February 11, 2017 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is what I've read about Moon conjunt Mercury in composite.

You easily share personal information with each other, and probably delight in so doing. This is a chatty aspect that indicates much exchange, stimulation, and a mutual desire for variety and changes in the environment. Together, you like to keep busy, and if you share a home, the atmosphere is active and involved. You tend to be sensitive to each other’s feelings and moods, and turn to each other for easy conversation. You may delight in sharing memories with one another. The female in this relationship may be quite talkative, finding a wonderful outlet in her partner. As a couple, you are involved with each other and find it quite easy to solve problems in a rational and reasonable manner.


https://cafeastrology.com/composite/moon_mercury.html

As for my Saturn making a square to his Venus and conjuncting his Moon. I know that can be tough for him but as the Saturn person I do care about him. I know Saturn can be critical or a wet blanket. But reading what others have said about Moon conjunct Saturn. The Saturn person usually cares a great deal about the Moon person and might feel responsible for the Moon person. I can relate to this being the Saturn person. I help him whenever he needs something. I always check to see if he needs anything and if he's ok. So this aspect may not always be bad for the two people involved.

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