posted April 23, 2017 04:30 AM            

As I got older the abuse became more and more physical where she would make me lie down naked on the ground and whip me for an hour with an electrical cable. She would hide behind doors and when I walked through it she would hit me in the face with a belt buckle. She would lock me under the stairs and made me live on the stair case for months and not feed me for 6 months, (a friend let me eat at her house after school) She would also encourage my father to beat me, and she walk in and just laugh at me when it was happening. In fact they could only bond when they could both beat me together. She took 2 weeks off from work without telling anyone and when she returned and all her work peers asked her where she was, she told them that I bet her up and put her in hospital, (that’s a lie, btw)

Anyway, needless to say, I hate the **** !ng ***** . Haven’t seen her in 20 years. Even when I was kicked out of home and was living on the streets they would go to church every week and pretend nothing was wrong even though people they knew I was homeless. Typical Libras holding up a front I guess. She even spread rumours about me saying I was a hooker and living in a brothel, when I was 14, to her family and friends to make me look bad.

I have PTSD from having to have lived with her.

I can’t bear to look at our charts as its just painful and I even hate her too much to make an effort. Any insight was she’s a **** !ng slag would be appreciated.

posted April 23, 2017 09:22 AM            

I read your post and even before I looked at the charts I knew you had a Plutonian Moon. I know three people in my life who have a Scorpio Moon, Moon opposite Pluto and Moon square Pluto respectively.
They all haveemotionally abusive mothers.
I have Moon opposite Pluto and have that problem, too.

Our Moon is our mother. And you have a Scorpio Moon with really volatile aspects.
Moon conjunct IC (home) ruler Uranus > unpredictability
- opposite 8th house ruler Mercury > verbal abuse, nervous tension
- square Mars > physical abuse

posted April 24, 2017 07:58 AM            

When you say my "mother" is a narcissist which aspects are you speaking about? Or is that what you just feel from what I've written?

posted April 25, 2017 10:35 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
Hi Beautiful_Light, Thanks for your reply.

When you say my "mother" is a narcissist which aspects are you speaking about? Or is that what you just feel from what I've written?

And when you say "composite Sun is far away from other planets like Venus and Mercury" I was looking at that and thought it was unusual as most comp charts I've seen have been close. Is that the norm, that if the planets are far away from the Sun its a difficult relationship?

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posted April 26, 2017 07:14 PM            

you moon conjunct Uranus and square to mars in the 12th can show the crazy abusive maternal influences you were subjected to.

the venus/nessus midpoint conjunct to Jupiter and square the node can characterize the extremely abusive emotional environment. Jupiter's inclusion implies this was a generation abuse meaning that the abusive behavior was passed down from generation to generation and also likely culturally condoned. the extreme physical abuse is shown by the Saturn/Uranus midpoint conjunct the node and square jupiteret.al. and the mars/Uranus square's midpoint square to venus. actull I am somewhat surprised you don't mention sexual abuse also.

I believe that "destiny" or fate is shown by exact aspects no matter what symbols .
you have a exact mercury/Chiron conjunction, exact to 3 arc minute and this conjunction is sextile to Jupiter exactly to 2 arc minutes.
this pattern shows you are exceptionally intelligent. you have a incisive and analytical mind. you understand both practical and abstract concepts and you can see how the personal patterns relate to the greater social patterns in life.

you mind and understanding are you saving grace. it may be your tragic experiences will serve to give you a therapeutic view to help others whose minds may be shattered by similar histories.

you demon mother has Saturn square to chiron with the midpoint conjunct her sun so as I thought she was subject to abuse by her father. with mercury square to Uranus she was drove to insanity by her up bringing. and again with Jupiter square to the sun, it seems this behavior is generational and cultural also.

nessus square the vertex can show the obsessive nature of her abusive actions.

the composite chart shows Saturn/Pluto midpoint conjunct Uranus with Uranus square to Nessus, this is a pattern of violence and abuse .the mars/Venus midpoint is conjunct to the Saturn/Uranus midpoint which brings in the physical and emotional abuse. again it is surprising you don't mention any sexual abuse.

thank you for sharing you personal history and I pray for your continued growth and healing

posted April 27, 2017 10:44 PM            

There was a lot of sexual abuse too. Didn't want to mention it, but guess I can as its not like anybody here knows me.

Sexual abuse from her, but also others. I never told anyone about the worst of the abuse that was vaginal by a male, but when I was 12 other man abused me that wasn't vaginal. I did tell my mum as soon as it happened. I though she was about to hit me and call me a liar, but she didnt. The man lived behind us, my "mother" would go visit them by climbing a ladder or stacked wood to go to their house. As soon as I told her, she went into the backyard and got rid of the ladder and all of wood and cleaned up the whole area so we couldn't go to their house again and she never went there again either.

If this didn't happen, I would have convinced myself she wouldn't have cared about all the previous years of sexual abuse.

Yes it is definitely generational. I met her mother once. She actually told my "mother" a lie about me, so my "mother" could bet me up! So I know where she gets is from. Its definitely a generation that does nothing to heal themselves to make them a better person.

Thanks for pointing out the intelligence! My "mother" would always tell me I was dumb, since birth, so I believed her. When I was very young the first educational activity I did was swimming. When I was selected the best of the girl in the class and got an award, my dad was gob smacked and told and showed my "mother" . She quickly told me I was stupid and can't achieve and do anything and to never forget I was dumb.

I regressed after that. I skipped a grade within swimming, that they had to take me back to the first level. And I could never progress from there. I struggled with school work because what was the point because she said I was dumb and being a child, your parents are god, and I naturally believed her.

When I went back to adult learning, I was top of my class and considered intelligent and then I was like, hang on a minute! I'd been lied too! due to her own insecurities.

You can not see someone for 20 years, and they can still affect you all these years later.

posted November 16, 2019 09:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Simplykind:
I knew all along you were a hooker...your a hypocrite and punished this poor woman for being a hooker when you were also one

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You’re disgusting! GTFO of here.
Someone block this freaks account pls.

posted November 17, 2019 05:58 AM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
So, I had a mother once. No surprises there. She loathed me from the time she knew I was in utero. She hated me even more from the moment she saw me. I’ve never liked her either. EVER. Probably because I knew how much she hated me. Her hate seeped from her veins into me when I was in her. I don’t have a single memory where she actually held me or cared for me. She used to make me stand in front of her when I was a child and she would cry telling me how happy she was until I was born and that I ruined everything.

As I got older the abuse became more and more physical where she would make me lie down naked on the ground and whip me for an hour with an electrical cable. She would hide behind doors and when I walked through it she would hit me in the face with a belt buckle. She would lock me under the stairs and made me live on the stair case for months and not feed me for 6 months, (a friend let me eat at her house after school) She would also encourage my father to beat me, and she walk in and just laugh at me when it was happening. In fact they could only bond when they could both beat me together. She took 2 weeks off from work without telling anyone and when she returned and all her work peers asked her where she was, she told them that I bet her up and put her in hospital, (that’s a lie, btw)

Anyway, needless to say, I hate the **** !ng ***** . Haven’t seen her in 20 years. Even when I was kicked out of home and was living on the streets they would go to church every week and pretend nothing was wrong even though people they knew I was homeless. Typical Libras holding up a front I guess. She even spread rumours about me saying I was a hooker and living in a brothel, when I was 14, to her family and friends to make me look bad.

I have PTSD from having to have lived with her.

I can’t bear to look at our charts as its just painful and I even hate her too much to make an effort. Any insight was she’s a **** !ng slag would be appreciated.

Her actual birth time is unknown.

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Wow! Is she still alive? My goodness

posted November 17, 2019 07:28 AM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
Yes she's still alive.

Living with extreme physical pain. And with all my training in complimentary medicine I could take that pain away. That brings me some joy knowing I could heal her and never f u c k I n g will!

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Now that is nasty Pluto in action lol

O boy, I have read your post half a dozen times and still the same effect. I relate to so much and also none at all.

I wouldn't sweat the moon-Pluto so bad, I have the square and I keep on saying it because it's important, my mum, while she did admirably **** me up in ways, has nothing to do with a Hades moon mum, or your mum. Nope, someone else in my life had that part, it wasn't my mother.
Same for Pluto-mars, first of all Pluto-mars when you have consensual sex as an outlet is one thing, Pluto-mars with people sex shouldn't happen with is a different ball game. The line between hot sex and abuse/violence needs to be drawn; it's so bloody messed up that we have acquired those as essentially going hand in hand. They don't, hot sex isn't abusive and that's the tea. Abuse is abuse.

My point is, let's not condemn aspects, and I don't mean that as a way to lessen what you, what we, have been through, I mean that as a way to hold your mother and my abusers, and every other abuser out there, accountable. It's too easy to say I have moon-square Pluto of course I was going to have a bad mother.

The way I see it, my mother, the people who abused me, royally destroyed me because they chose to. Either by not sorting out their shite and putting it on me or by yielding to the easy way on me, using their own Pluto sides as excuses to do horrendous things... but with their own tools they built what they wanted. And so do I, so will I. Instead of looking at my moon as the explanation why I went through this, I look at it as the reason why I survived and why I will even go further and transcend that.
Whether you use your craft to heal your mother or watch her rot doesn't matter, in Pluto terms you still have the power. But that is not how you win; you win because you have the power to heal yourself. This is all that matters.

posted November 17, 2019 09:11 AM            

The Pluto on your Mars jumps at me as well, which is the most obvious aspect that could be interpreted as abusive but I think the real problem lies within this person. she is f*ed up on a whole nother level. Disgusting. Hope you managed to heal some of that pain. I wish you all the best!

My parents are Croatian as well by the way...just on a side note.

posted November 17, 2019 01:41 PM            

Yeah I think the war really screwed them up, even though it was over the lingering effect was still there. Whenever I went to visit my Aunt in Germany, I could feel the war, it made it physically ill.

Plus parents from that time never went out to seek the help they needed to heal themselves they just dumped in on their children. It's our generation that's doing that so their not dumping their crap into their kids.

She has a son. The first born son is the prized possession in a family. The untouchable one that could do no wrong.