posted June 04, 2017 05:50 PM            

What does this guy mean by codependency? Does he mean clingy or the fact that the partner is dependent on him? Obviously this problem can vary in terms of intensity. In my own experience, I find myself often becoming very dependent on my partner on a day to day basis. I look to them for inspiration and rarely find it. But I've grown a lot since facing these issues and lead a life where I am not at all dependent on someone else.

Should they be in a relationship with this person? Maybe? Maybe not? They should have a conversation with the partner and ask if he wants her in his life. She also needs to reflect what she needs from the relationship and what's keeping her attached to him. I am not a big proponent of people breaking up very casually unless there's a lot of pain and/or abuse. We can all work through it! Allow your friend to speak/vent to you and help her get stronger. She needs to come to the realization herself.

posted June 08, 2017 10:43 AM            

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Would you stay and/or be in a relationship in which the other thinks your codependent? I ask this as my friend is engaged to a man who is a counselor and he constantly makes comments about her being codependent and how it isn't healthy. I got my undergrad in psych and I can't help but cringe at the fact that my sweet Aqua friend would allow this (she has a Pisces Mars which is what I think the culprit is), she says she loves him and what they have is indeed real but he's just afraid. She has also said her head knows she should leave but her heart is the problem. Would you stay in a relationship where someone said or did this to you?

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Co- dependent how???? I am not a grad of psychology but I have read countless books and trying to go to school to get my degree. So I don't know the whole story but it seems like from what you say she just really loves him which seems like he is co-dependant for his own ego basis. ( so she did nail it on the head , with him being afraid???) Has he ever stopped and considered why he is marring her? Why does he stay with her? Maybe he needs her this way so he can feel like a man? Which means he lacks something inside, he fears something? Maybe instead of evaluating her, he should be evaluating himself and just because he is a counsoler DOES NOT MEAN HE DON'T GOT ISSUES HIMSELF!!!!!

posted June 08, 2017 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
Co- dependent how???? I am not a grad of psychology but I have read countless books and trying to go to school to get my degree. So I don't know the whole story but it seems like from what you say she just really loves him which seems like he is co-dependant for his own ego basis. ( so she did nail it on the head , with him being afraid???) Has he ever stopped and considered why he is marring her? Why does he stay with her? Maybe he needs her this way so he can feel like a man? Which means he lacks something inside, he fears something? Maybe instead of evaluating her, he should be evaluating himself and just because he is a counsoler DOES NOT MEAN HE DON'T GOT ISSUES HIMSELF!!!!!

A word of advice for him that I read once, A man should never put down a woman who is with, she is a reflection of who he is.

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You know I got my undergrad in Psych, and what you are saying is super spot on. I actually think it is him who is the co-dependent one. In fact if she were really co-dependent why would you stay with her? And to be honest his natal is not the best for marriage...nor is his composite with her nor is his synastry (it is up and down with Uranus Oppositions and/or Conjunctions to the Sun/Moon/Mer and Venus) with her (ie a lack of attachment aspects). In fact I wonder if it's not being afraid (of how he feels and/or his attachment to her or maybe it is) but it might be that his feelings for her are safe and or don't sprang up attachment issues for him (he does have a Cancer Moon). I also wonder if him having these feelings is a passive aggressive way of trying to get her to end the relationship.

I have no idea why he wants to marry her (esp if they are going strong...as Uranus is lit up like a Christmas tree in their composite) and esp with his natal screaming issues (Sun Conjunct Saturn, Sun Square Moon...Venus Square Mars and Uranus...Mars Conjunct and Parallel Uranus) he is all sort of screwed up. His chart to me suggests a strong need to stay in control of himself...and what better way is that done than having a relationship in which you don't care that much...but the other cares a whole lot and won't leave (the Cancer need for security).

posted June 09, 2017 03:19 AM            

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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
Would you stay and/or be in a relationship in which the other thinks your codependent? I ask this as my friend is engaged to a man who is a counselor and he constantly makes comments about her being codependent and how it isn't healthy. I got my undergrad in psych and I can't help but cringe at the fact that my sweet Aqua friend would allow this (she has a Pisces Mars which is what I think the culprit is), she says she loves him and what they have is indeed real but he's just afraid. She has also said her head knows she should leave but her heart is the problem. Would you stay in a relationship where someone said or did this to you?

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it is funny because we choose partner that mirrors our shadow side. he must be very dependent if he is pointing that to her. anyway, i think that anybody is to choose what they can accept or not. it is hard to tell without the entire picture of the relationship, the tone of the accusation, etc...

I shy away from relationship where someone feels "superior" because of their "understanding" of human psychology. if a psychology degree makes him become judgmental, then, he must have deep issues, but who doesn't?

different people accept different things for different reasons. It is hard to tell where is the limit. we have different triggers and values. with mars in piscis, she may be unaware that that this bother her as mars in piscis tend to own little the martian energy. in anyway, she is not asking for advice, so...

posted June 09, 2017 03:25 AM            

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You know I got my undergrad in Psych, and what you are saying is super spot on. I actually think it is him who is the co-dependent one. In fact if she were really co-dependent why would you stay with her? And to be honest his natal is not the best for marriage...nor is his composite with her nor is his synastry (it is up and down with Uranus Oppositions and/or Conjunctions to the Sun/Moon/Mer and Venus) with her (ie a lack of attachment aspects). In fact I wonder if it's not being afraid (of how he feels and/or his attachment to her or maybe it is) but it might be that his feelings for her are safe and or don't sprang up attachment issues for him (he does have a Cancer Moon). I also wonder if him having these feelings is a passive aggressive way of trying to get her to end the relationship.

I have no idea why he wants to marry her (esp if they are going strong...as Uranus is lit up like a Christmas tree in their composite) and esp with his natal screaming issues (Sun Conjunct Saturn, Sun Square Moon...Venus Square Mars and Uranus...Mars Conjunct and Parallel Uranus) he is all sort of screwed up. His chart to me suggests a strong need to stay in control of himself...and what better way is that done than having a relationship in which you don't care that much...but the other cares a whole lot and won't leave (the Cancer need for security).

I actually stayed away from guys in college who were in or getting psych degrees. They tended to psychoanalyze everyone else while forgetting that they themselves had issues.

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I would agree. nobody married someone they find "appropriate" if they do not have the issues they are pointing out. as i said in my previous post, the partner reflect your shadow.

posted June 09, 2017 04:02 AM            

Maybe she is co-dependent, maybe he is, most 3D relationships are. Pluto brings attachment, Saturn brings expectation. I don't personally understand what this conversation is about (maybe it's because I'm in the UK and there's some cultural reference I'm not aware of).

Rather than us deciding for this lady I would suggest she sits down and has a good old talk with her partner to find out why he's unhappy and how they can work through it, if they're relationship is overall a good connection?

posted June 09, 2017 10:36 AM            

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...his natal is not the best for marriage...nor is his composite with her nor is his synastry (it is up and down with Uranus Oppositions and/or Conjunctions to the Sun/Moon/Mer and Venus) with her (ie a lack of attachment aspects). In fact I wonder if it's not being afraid (of how he feels and/or his attachment to her or maybe it is) but it might be that his feelings for her are safe and or don't sprang up attachment issues for him (he does have a Cancer Moon). I also wonder if him having these feelings is a passive aggressive way of trying to get her to end the relationship.

I have no idea why he wants to marry her (esp if they are going strong...as Uranus is lit up like a Christmas tree in their composite) and esp with his natal screaming issues (Sun Conjunct Saturn, Sun Square Moon...Venus Square Mars and Uranus...Mars Conjunct and Parallel Uranus) he is all sort of screwed up. His chart to me suggests a strong need to stay in control of himself...and what better way is that done than having a relationship in which you don't care that much...but the other cares a whole lot and won't leave (the Cancer need for security).

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You know, I thought a little more about this, and his chart and I realized I think he has Moon Square Pluto and Trine Uranus. I think overall his chart screams a person who has to control himself first and foremost in every way (minus sexually...probably slept around alot to avoid emotional connections). He is highly individualistic and might actually view expressing needy emotions (even though he himself is a Cancer Moon) as weak. This would be evident by his Moon being Square Pluto. And the need for that placement to not express any emotions that they deem weak. So perhaps that is why he is unnecessarily cruel to my friend (he views her attachments as weak and or shallow). I dated a man who had Venus and Mercury in Scorpio and we was soooo cruel, especially when he felt like he had me but didn't feel the same. In fact I would say those types are most cruel when they don't respect you and/or view you or your emotions as shallow (keep in mind this has nothing to do with if your feelings are actually deep...they just perceive you to be shallow). I think his Cancer Moon Square Pluto and Scorpio planets (esp Scorpio planets) view my friend as shallow or lacking emotionally (and she is an Aries Moon, Aqua Sun...but she does have Moon Opp Pluto, and Venus Square Pluto...still though she is nowhere near as deep as a Cancer Moon Square Pluto).

posted June 19, 2017 07:25 AM            

Now you've said that he's cruel and really doesn't respect her or even like her very much I so hope she doesn't marry him :-(

posted June 19, 2017 03:53 PM            

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Would you stay and/or be in a relationship in which the other thinks your codependent? I ask this as my friend is engaged to a man who is a counselor and he constantly makes comments about her being codependent and how it isn't healthy. I got my undergrad in psych and I can't help but cringe at the fact that my sweet Aqua friend would allow this (she has a Pisces Mars which is what I think the culprit is), she says she loves him and what they have is indeed real but he's just afraid. She has also said her head knows she should leave but her heart is the problem. Would you stay in a relationship where someone said or did this to you?

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Relationships are about growth and the other mirroring your shadow side so you can integrate it. Do you feel your friend is clingy and co-dependent?

People in a relationship should be able to have open conversations about things they feel the other needs to work on, you will be a lifetime together, its only natural you will notice things about the other they need to work through bc we all have "areas of growth."

Some people do have a difficult time self-soothing bc of attachment issues from childhood or just because and they need a lot of attention in relationships and the partner now may feel overwhelmed by this need for attention. If that is the case the partner has to be open about how this need for attention makes them feel and the other person needs to find ways to rely less on the other for emotional regulation.

IDK the details of their relationship but I strongly suggest you encourage her to express her feelings to him and try to be as impartial as you can possibly be. A lot of people quickly learn that the advice "friends" give is "break up with him" and that is a decision she should truly arrive on her own bc no relationship is perfect and couples will have differences and conflicts.

posted June 19, 2017 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
Co- dependent how???? I am not a grad of psychology but I have read countless books and trying to go to school to get my degree. So I don't know the whole story but it seems like from what you say she just really loves him which seems like he is co-dependant for his own ego basis. ( so she did nail it on the head , with him being afraid???) Has he ever stopped and considered why he is marring her? Why does he stay with her? Maybe he needs her this way so he can feel like a man? Which means he lacks something inside, he fears something? Maybe instead of evaluating her, he should be evaluating himself and just because he is a counsoler DOES NOT MEAN HE DON'T GOT ISSUES HIMSELF!!!!!

A word of advice for him that I read once, A man should never put down a woman who is with, she is a reflection of who he is.

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Why is someone pointing out to their partner that they are co-dependent so triggering? Is a word that describes something he is observing...could he be co-dependent too? maybe, could he be projecting? maybe, could they both be co-dependent? Yes they could both be codependent and maybe this is conversation they should have as a couple and work through by themselves...

posted June 19, 2017 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
You know I got my undergrad in Psych, and what you are saying is super spot on. I actually think it is him who is the co-dependent one. In fact if she were really co-dependent why would you stay with her? And to be honest his natal is not the best for marriage...nor is his composite with her nor is his synastry (it is up and down with Uranus Oppositions and/or Conjunctions to the Sun/Moon/Mer and Venus) with her (ie a lack of attachment aspects). In fact I wonder if it's not being afraid (of how he feels and/or his attachment to her or maybe it is) but it might be that his feelings for her are safe and or don't sprang up attachment issues for him (he does have a Cancer Moon). I also wonder if him having these feelings is a passive aggressive way of trying to get her to end the relationship.

I have no idea why he wants to marry her (esp if they are going strong...as Uranus is lit up like a Christmas tree in their composite) and esp with his natal screaming issues (Sun Conjunct Saturn, Sun Square Moon...Venus Square Mars and Uranus...Mars Conjunct and Parallel Uranus) he is all sort of screwed up. His chart to me suggests a strong need to stay in control of himself...and what better way is that done than having a relationship in which you don't care that much...but the other cares a whole lot and won't leave (the Cancer need for security).

I actually stayed away from guys in college who were in or getting psych degrees. They tended to psychoanalyze everyone else while forgetting that they themselves had issues.

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You have a bias with Uranus aspects, people with uranus aspects can have long term happy marriages lol

posted June 25, 2017 10:11 PM            

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You have a bias with Uranus aspects, people with uranus aspects can have long term happy marriages lol

My parents both have Venus in Aquarius for example and my father has only been married once, over 30 years of marriage and still going. You really have to look at the entire chart. My husband too very uranian but has sun in libra including saturn in libra which is exalted and moon in cancer, he is super faithful and loyal and hates the idea of been with anybody else. He doesn't want an open relationship nor wants to use his free pass yet he has mars conjunct uranus square venus, look at that. I just give him plenty of freedom and space and he doesn't want it, wants to spend all his time with me.

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I don't have a bias at all. I would say that you are misattributing and confusing Uranus in its pure form and the aspects between two people. For instance your husband is Uranian, BUT he has Saturn Conjunct Sun and his Saturn was Conjunct your Sun in Virgo if I remember correctly. That off that bat (no matter if you're Uranian or not) makes you want to stick it out (you also make him feel good with your Pisces Moon to his Cancer Moon and Scorpio Mars). That is the same with your parents, they may have an Aqua Venus but what else does their synastry provide. I'm quite Uranian and date men that are the same (both my parents and sister are as well), but I have a strong dose of it along with a great deal of Saturn and even I feel restless sometimes. Plus the men I get involved with have synastry with me that compels me to want to be with them. The key word is something is there that makes me want to commit.

posted June 26, 2017 12:03 AM            

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I don't have a bias at all. I would say that you are misattributing and confusing Uranus in its pure form and the aspects between two people. For instance your husband is Uranian, BUT he has Saturn Conjunct Sun and his Saturn was Conjunct your Sun in Virgo if I remember correctly. That off that bat (no matter if you're Uranian or not) makes you want to stick it out (you also make him feel good with your Pisces Moon to his Cancer Moon and Scorpio Mars). That is the same with your parents, they may have an Aqua Venus but what else does their synastry provide. I'm quite Uranian and date men that are the same (both my parents and sister are as well), but I have a strong dose of it along with a great deal of Saturn and even I feel restless sometimes. Plus the men I get involved with have synastry with me that compels me to want to be with them. The key word is something is there that makes me want to commit.

Uranus in terms of a persons natal chart no matter how much someone may love or want someone does point to needing a type of freedom and the ability to do things their own way. And I know you have talked about your husband and him loving you, but really to be flat out honest he does have the markers for someone who is inclined to have fast infatuations and is inclined to split easily, depending on his own inner code or how he feels (the Cancer Moon being the cincher as getting a Cancer man involves getting them to feel). You and your husband have been together a relatively short time (in terms of Saturn and time), so who knows what the future holds (which is ultimately the key to Uranus individuals...loving right now). But to pretend that Uranian people are naturally in love with commitment is like pretending Scorpio is not intense in some capacity. I'm a Cap Moon so perhaps I'm more more realistic to things that verges on pessimism (verses I believe you have a very sweet Pisces Moon) but Uranus in a persons natal chart is not really a death sentence. I'd actually be inclined to think it's worse in a composite chart. Similar to Saturn/Composite Venus. We have differing opinions that is all.

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I never said that Uranian people are in love with commitment lol. I was very clear with my point that you have to look at the entire chart and pointed out my husband has sun in libra with saturn in libra exalted and further his juno, jupiter and saturn all conjunct my sun so I also made the point you have to look at the synastry.

But regardless Uranian types can last a lifetime in a marriage that is based on friendship and with someone that lets them pursue their dreams and gives them the freedom to be themselves and do their own thing. Like my Aries friend from childhood with venus in aquarius he always becomes friends with a girl for years before he gets involved with them, he has had two serious relationships, the first one broke up with him and it took him a while to get over it. The second one they are still going...

As for my partner 10 years is a long time and if we ever break up it will be either bc I break up with him or he dies early like his father, I have always been certain of this.

I may have moon in pisces but I am a virgo with mercury in virgo and saturn conjuncts my chart ruler pluto so I am very analytical and realistic. I have Scorpio rising and jupiter conjunct uranus in the 1H. I read people well and am very passionate about getting to the bottom of anything and about the truth even if is ugly. I am very intuitive. I have mercury parallel pluto, mercury novile pluto, sun semisextile pluto exact, moon biquintile pluto, venus conjunct mars both sextile pluto, saturn in Scorpio conjunct pluto in libra.

posted June 26, 2017 12:19 AM            

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I'm a double aqua sun/moon with venus/mars in pisces.

What does this guy mean by codependency? Does he mean clingy or the fact that the partner is dependent on him? Obviously this problem can vary in terms of intensity. In my own experience, I find myself often becoming very dependent on my partner on a day to day basis. I look to them for inspiration and rarely find it. But I've grown a lot since facing these issues and lead a life where I am not at all dependent on someone else.

Should they be in a relationship with this person? Maybe? Maybe not? They should have a conversation with the partner and ask if he wants her in his life. She also needs to reflect what she needs from the relationship and what's keeping her attached to him. I am not a big proponent of people breaking up very casually unless there's a lot of pain and/or abuse. We can all work through it! Allow your friend to speak/vent to you and help her get stronger. She needs to come to the realization herself.

Aquarians are fixed signs right? So they believe what they believe until they are proven wrong. Once they realize that, they are the fastest to change. Hope that helps!

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posted June 26, 2017 12:32 AM            

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I never said that Uranian people are in love with commitment lol. I was very clear with my point that you have to look at the entire chart and pointed out my husband has sun in libra with saturn in libra exalted and further his juno, jupiter and saturn all conjunct my sun so I also made the point you have to look at the synastry.

But regardless Uranian types can last a lifetime in a marriage that is based on friendship and with someone that lets them pursue their dreams and gives them the freedom to be themselves and do their own thing. Like my Aries friend from childhood with venus in aquarius he always becomes friends with a girl for years before he gets involved with them, he has had two serious relationships, the first one broke up with him and it took him a while to get over it. The second one they are still going...

As for my partner 10 years is a long time and if we ever break up it will be either bc I break up with him or he dies early like his father, I have always been certain of this.

I may have moon in pisces but I am a virgo with mercury in virgo and saturn conjuncts my chart ruler pluto so I am very analytical and realistic. I have Scorpio rising and jupiter conjunct uranus in the 1H. I read people well and am very passionate about getting to the bottom of anything and about the truth even if is ugly. I am very intuitive. I have mercury parallel pluto, mercury novile pluto, sun semisextile pluto exact, moon biquintile pluto, venus conjunct mars both sextile pluto, saturn in Scorpio conjunct pluto in libra.

Further, lets not forget that Saturn is the classical ruler or co ruler of Aquarius, lets not forget that..

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posted June 26, 2017 12:56 AM            

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I never said that Uranian people are in love with commitment lol. I was very clear with my point that you have to look at the entire chart and pointed out my husband has sun in libra with saturn in libra exalted and further his juno, jupiter and saturn all conjunct my sun so I also made the point you have to look at the synastry.

But regardless Uranian types can last a lifetime in a marriage that is based on friendship and with someone that lets them pursue their dreams and gives them the freedom to be themselves and do their own thing. Like my Aries friend from childhood with venus in aquarius he always becomes friends with a girl for years before he gets involved with them, he has had two serious relationships, the first one broke up with him and it took him a while to get over it. The second one they are still going...

As for my partner 10 years is a long time and if we ever break up it will be either bc I break up with him or he dies early like his father, I have always been certain of this.

I may have moon in pisces but I am a virgo with mercury in virgo and saturn conjuncts my chart ruler pluto so I am very analytical and realistic. I have Scorpio rising and jupiter conjunct uranus in the 1H. I read people well and am very passionate about getting to the bottom of anything and about the truth even if is ugly. I am very intuitive. I have mercury parallel pluto, mercury novile pluto, sun semisextile pluto exact, moon biquintile pluto, venus conjunct mars both sextile pluto, saturn in Scorpio conjunct pluto in libra.

Further, lets not forget that Saturn is the classical ruler or co ruler of Aquarius, lets not forget that..

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Well like I said, we can agree to disagree. People with Uranus in their natals can have a long happy marriage. But again, just off the bat not taking anything else into consideration the planet is not really suited for that. Does that mean it won't happen? Of course not, you do take the entire chart into consideration...but major Uranus placements (harsh Uranus placements esp to the Moon/Venus for men and Sun/Mars for women) can be tricky in long term marriages (I'm talking 20+ years). Does that mean you are different? Maybe...maybe not. I don't know if your husband will stay or leave, and frankly neither do you. Not in a rude way, but you are not promised he will stay with you anymore than we're promised we'll get another day to wake up. My very very Aquarian partner with Sun/Mer/Ven/Mars in Aqua loves me deeply, but will he never leave me? Maybe...maybe not. And he'd even tell you that. He can't promise anything other than to love me today. That is Aquarian love, and this is coming from a Scorpio Moon and Taurus Rising man who is super possessive and tenacious lol. He's also my best friend. We both were commitment phobic prior to meeting, but we allow each other the ability to be free. Will we make it...maybe but maybe not. His Scorpio Moon wants total emotional exclusivity, at least right now.

posted June 26, 2017 02:53 AM            

Uranus rules friendship and in its discovery chart it has venus in pisces exalted with neptune in the 11th house. In its discovery chart Venus is sextile chiron conjunct northnode and eros forming a yod with neptune in the 11th. Essentially a love yod with neptune in the 11th at the apex and venus sextile chiron-northnode-eros as the legs. Beautiful Yod and Yods are known as "the finger of God" and it involves the northnode really showing us the purpose of Uranus...so love, healing and erotic love based on friendship is the mission of Uranus, love been based on friendship with venus exalted allows for true unconditional love.

I would love to see your chart and your partner's chart and insert some asteroids bc one of my clients is a pastor with sun, moon, mercury, venus, mars all in aquarius and is super angry at his wife for divorcing him now on his sixties, he says love is a decision, a commitment and action and hates her for not just divorcing him but throwing away so many years of friendship.

He is a mega aquarius so if I had your birth dates and studied the asteroids of your charts in depth I would find other explanations for your commitment issues, its not an uranus thing only, bc aquarius does love its freedom and does not commit easily but when they do its a fixed sign and they take it seriously.

posted June 26, 2017 10:43 AM            

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one of my clients is a pastor with sun, moon, mercury, venus, mars all in aquarius and is super angry at his wife for divorcing him now on his sixties, he says love is a decision, a commitment and action and hates her for not just divorcing him but throwing away so many years of friendship.

He is a mega aquarius so if I had your birth dates and studied the asteroids of your charts in depth I would find other explanations for your commitment issues, its not an uranus thing only, bc aquarius does love its freedom and does not commit easily but when they do its a fixed sign and they take it seriously.

My grandparents are famous for having an ideal marriage the whole family looks up to and they are both aquarius and were faithful to eachother always, they would fall sleep holding hands every night. My grandfather had sun conjunct uranus in aquarius, my grandmother had sun, mars and uranus in aquarius. In their composite they had venus conjunct uranus exact at 11d. Everyone in the family highly looked up to their marriage, they both married once and lived till their 90s, 4 children.

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I had to make sure you knew I was not trying to insult you. I do not want you to feel like I am being rude, demeaning or argumentative in anyway shape or form. I am a 7th house Moon with Venus Trine afterall lol.

Having said that, the meme you provided is really cute (and I'm not being sarcastic). And actually true. Studies have shown that marrying your best friend can decrease divorce. But marrying someone of the same race and or ethnicity can also reduce divorce, marrying someone of the same religious background can also reduce chances of divorce, marrying someone who is complementary (despite the facts that we want to believe opposites attract...they do not) can also reduce divorce.

My point is that humans, astrology, Uranus etc...it's not a one size fits all. At the end of the day minus the astrology behind it, we are humans with our own baggage and issues, and ultimately our society does not bode well for marriage. This is esp true if you are a millennial or younger (which I am). My generation as a whole is deciding to forgo marriage and wait. Or do the non traditional thing. Why? Because we saw our (in some cases) Generation X or Baby Boomer parents fail.

The client that you mentioned (the pastor), is right about love being a choice. But his divorce is not an anomaly. The over 50 crowd (ie baby boomers) are hitting their stride in terms of splitting up. So to be honest he is not terribly rare in terms of what he is going through. And this makes sense, when people begin to feel a sense of mortality that getting older brings they begin to examine their lives. Desiring a partner who may have been a confidante, or friend may not be how a person envisions the remaining years of their lives (esp after children are adults). My mom is 70 years old, and many many of her friends and siblings are past that point and in relationships after getting divorced in their 50's. Does that have anything to do with Uranus? Maybe, and maybe not.

My overall point is that divorce is literally a 50-50 shot. Astrology aside, there are certain things that make divorce more or less likely. Strong Uranus, much like strong Neptune (no matter what the entire chart looks like) doesn't add to the picture. Another thing I failed to mention was the Composite, the wedding chart, and even the Transits going on with people. Even the most well meaning man with your husband's placements (Venus Square to Mars-Uranus Conjunction and Cancer or Taurus Moon) might end up in a relationship in which the Composite is lighting up Uranus.

I saw on a website a celebrity (some guy on Dancing With the Stars) is getting married next month during a Saturn Chiron event. The wedding date features an applying Sun-Moon Opposition (or full Moon), Mars (Conjunct the Sun) Square Uranus, and Mars Inconjunct Saturn aspect. The chart also has the Moon in Capricorn. This wedding is taking place while he is going through a Square Transit of Jupiter and Saturn, he also has an upcoming Transit of Saturn Square Saturn. His own natal Jupiter is being Square from the wedding chart's Saturn-Chiron Square. Does this sound like a future that promises a ton of happiness or even staying together? Off the bat no...esp considering he and his fiancee have broken up a great deal. He's a Cap and she is a Cancer. This same day has his costar (Julianne Hough) also getting married that day.

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I had to make sure you knew I was not trying to insult you. I do not want you to feel like I am being rude, demeaning or argumentative in anyway shape or form. I am a 7th house Moon with Venus Trine afterall lol.

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OMG thanks for sharing that. That makes soo much sense now...

posted June 26, 2017 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
OMG thanks for sharing that. That makes soo much sense now...

What Libras don't realize is that they never come off as rude yet they are always worried they are been rude lol....is so cute. I wish I had that problem, I could use some venus in me.

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Lol now you know why I was/still slightly (who am I kidding...slightly lol) obsessed with that Libra/Cancer dude. He's a Libra Sun Conjunct Saturn with Cancer Moon, and I'm a Cancer Sun with Cap Moon in the 7th Trine Venus (plus my 1st house ruler is in the 7th) lol. Yeah, it would have been perfect lol. The funny thing is I never want the other person to feel attacked or bad when I have a discussion. I have a hard time disagreeing. The problem is being so focused on the other.