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manderin
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posted July 08, 2017 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen from previous threads the general consensus seems to be The Planet person is more attracted to the NN person. But when it comes to the SN, it is the SN person that is more attracted to the planet person.

Is this also generally the case when these points are conjunct someone's ascendant?

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posted July 08, 2017 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the attraction between the planet and the South Node could be equal due to familiarity but a lot depends on the relationship of the Node person with each sign of their axis. If someone would rather erase their past, putting something on their South Node is probably not a good idea. On the other hand, if someone's determined to remain in their SN comfort zone, a planet landing on their North Node could feel like an invader. Angles are a little tricky cause they are axes too which means they would touch both.

A difficult relationship with a Node can be indicated by having something tough like Saturn, Pluto or Chiron attached to it or the presence of personal planets in the opposite sign.

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posted July 08, 2017 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting points. I think the people who are determined to stay with their south node tend to be those who have other planets conjunct it in their natal chart. I can only speak for myself (I don't have any planets near my SN) but my experience has been that when someone's SN conjuncts my moon I feel very emotionally drained by them even if they don't mean to be draining, but they are attracted to me and enjoy spending time with me. I end up ending the relationship.

I'm thinking that the South Node is like a black hole that wants to suck the energy around it toward it. And the North Node is like a repelling magnet that wants to push the energies around it away from it. This is why it is said that in a synastry of NN conjunct a personal planet, it is generally the planet person that is more attracted while the NN person may feel hesitant and not ready to grow.


This is why SN conjunct ascendant fascinates me. I wonder if in this case the SN person will eventually suck the vitality out of the ascendant person.

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posted July 10, 2017 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:

This is why SN conjunct ascendant fascinates me. I wonder if in this case the SN person will eventually suck the vitality out of the ascendant person.

It also fasinates me, as I have personal experience with my ex and yes I completely believe that the SN will eventually suck the vitality out of the Ascendant person. Quite literally. I've been sharing some of my story in my thread in the Astral Realms forum. It's not so apparent initially but the more time you spend with the SN person the more you seem to give of yourself unintentionally. There's lots of attraction but it sucks you in like a black hole, as you say. The SN person seems to limit the Ascendant person in numerous ways and this happens very subtly.
I suppose you'd have to look at everything in the charts but this has definitely been my experience.

I also have someone's NN conjunct my Ascendant exact. Still not quite sure how significant this may be. I only know they were sexually attracted to me and were happy to return favours I did for them in the past (mundane stuff).

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posted July 10, 2017 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really fascinating stuff. That's what I figured since there is very few real examples available on this forum on relationships with SN conj asc, but there are many examples of people who've experienced NN conj asc. This was an indication to me that the latter was simply a healthier aspect.

And of course there was my own experience of someone's SN on my moon. As you say, at first I didn't feel it. In fact, all I felt was a great affinity to the person, but the more time I spent with them the more emotionally drained I felt. Moon rules emotions and it was like their south node was a vampire sucking and feeding off of my moon without the person even realizing it.

I'm going to see if I can find your story. I hope you feel better now.

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posted July 10, 2017 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mandarin, I had a similar experience with someone SN on my moon. Didn't notice it at first either! And now even though we are really close and will always be in each other's lives, the thought of being with him in a rel drains me. There was no moving forward.

I'd really like to know about Saturn conjunct the SN. Do you think Saturn eventually becomes drained too??

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posted July 11, 2017 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had Sun conjunct my NN with a guy and I was more attracted to him, now I have NN conjunct my Sun with this guy and I still feel I'm the more attracted to... though now his Mars conjunct his SN I guess that makes a difference, safe to say we are both extremely attracted to each other sexually.

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posted July 12, 2017 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have planets conjunct your sun and NN?

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posted July 12, 2017 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can add my experiences-

I have had two people's SN on my mars. Both were a drain. Initially there was a lot of attraction, but they both evolved in to relationships where I essentially carried the weight for both of us. I ended them.

I also have two important relationships with someone's NN on my ASC. One is my oldest daughter, the other a woman I consider one of my dearest friends. Both cases, I am instrumental in their future, and they are to mine. These are both very powerful relationships.

I can't say I know of anyone who has their SN on my ASC though.

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posted July 12, 2017 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mereiposa:

I can't say I know of anyone who has their SN on my ASC though.


You know what? It seems very few people experience this aspect in a relationship. I'm starting to think that unless there are extremely strong saturn binds a relationship with this aspect is unlikely to even happen. I recently tried to initiate professional relationships with two people who have their SN right on my ascendant. Even though both have very different charts and that was the only common denominator, in both cases we just could not get the relationship off the ground. When I was available they weren't and vice versa. And when we did have a meeting set up something would suddenly happen to keep us apart. And when I look through the history of this forum there are very few posts on people experiencing this aspect with someone but lots of posts on people experiencing NN on the asc. Just like your experience!

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posted July 12, 2017 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Manerin,

search for NN conjunct DC...which is basically the same thing but people more often list it such.

here is a good thread on Nodes on Angles..quote a few mentioned NN conj DSC
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/002835.html

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posted July 13, 2017 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding Sun/Moon/Mars/Jupiter conjunct the SN I have a few relationships where I am the SN. I don't know if they felt drained at the time as the guys were are all highly energetic and I am not in any way demanding but in some of those relationships I felt we were stuck in the same mundane pattern with no emotional/deeper progress in to our relationship.
2 of the Sun/Moon relationships were ended abrupty, mostly due to circumstances but were otherwise very dynamic with a lot of going on while they lasted.

Thanks for that link Orange, I would also like more information on SN on the Ascendant aspect.

manderin, I think you might just not be destined to experience someone's SN on your Ascendant?

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posted July 15, 2017 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by outofideas:

manderin, I think you might just not be destined to experience someone's SN on your Ascendant?



You may be right about that. Even if I go out of my way to spend time with someone with this aspect, something nuts and completely from left field often happens to prevent it.

Thank you for the link Orange! Most of those people also seem to have trouble making this relationship last except for the parent child one and the best friends example. But it is a small sample so that might be why.

Some of the people who experienced this mentioned dreaming of the person. Upon meeting someone several months ago who's SN was right on my ascendant I had two dreams about him where he was angry with me about something. I didn't know about what but he was peeved and didn't want to be in my presence. Which was weird because we only met once and spoke for maybe 5 seconds before we were interrupted. Perhaps these were past-life dreams? Like maybe we were enemies in a past life so that's why we weren't able to continue the introduction before something happened to separate us.

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posted July 15, 2017 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Mandarin, I had a similar experience with someone SN on my moon. Didn't notice it at first either! And now even though we are really close and will always be in each other's lives, the thought of being with him in a rel drains me. There was no moving forward.

I'd really like to know about Saturn conjunct the SN. Do you think Saturn eventually becomes drained too??


That was my experience with that aspect. I don't know about Saturn and SN as Saturn is not really a personal planet like Sun, Moon, Merc, Mars and Venus are. Jupiter and Saturn are less personal. So I'm not sure much of a draining would be felt.

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posted July 12, 2022 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From experience time and time again.. whenever my Scorpio Asc conj someone’s SN, I get super obsessed with them very fast. I daydream a lot about the SN person, they’re basically on my mind 24/7… In all situations so far, where there was a romantic attraction, we did get together fast, so they were definitely attracted to me, but I still kinda felt, like I was the more obsessed one.. maybe bc it’s in my nature and maybe bc the Plutonian SN is something the other person needs to transcend.

Whenever I experience someone’s Asc on my SN, which is also in Scorpio, but at a much later degree than my Scorpio Asc, I feel attracted to the Asc person, I find them very sexually compelling, I like to spend time with them, the intimacy has always been quite intense and addictive, but I definitely didn’t feel as obsessed with them, as I feel obsessed, when I’m the Asc person.

From a personal perspective, it feels more beneficial to my immediate sense of self-worth, when I’m the SN and they’re the Asc. I can go about my day as usual, when I think about them it feels nice and I’m happy, I’m never worrying about when they’ll text me or when they’ll call, I just don’t care that much. I feel peaceful and confident that they’re into me. I never doubt that.

It’s definitely different when I’m the Ascendant, at least initially in the first stages of dating. I’m way more anxious, I get excited when they text me, and start to worry a bit, when they take their time. But that situation has its perks too, bc when you’re obsessed with someone, being together feels that much more intense and meaningful, you want to cherish and relive every moment. You also want to be your best version around them. So even though I feel obsessive on the inside, I don’t show it, bc I understand obsession in relationships as a negative trait. I think that’s the most accurate way, I can describe it.

So far my most intense relationships were the ones where my Angles hit their Nodes. To me that’s the most significant linkage in Astrology, bc it feels like past and future combined, it feels like forever. I know deep inside they’ll always be there, even when the relationship runs its course.

Sun and Moon on the Nodes, especially South Node, is also a very strong attachment, but feels kinda bitter sweet like you just know this won’t last, so you enjoy the time you have. Same with Venus and Mars.

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posted July 12, 2022 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good stuff

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posted July 13, 2022 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had someone NN on my venus, I think it was kind of wide though at like 3degrees - but I could feel it, I could feel it was fated but that it wouldn't last, and that he was one of the stepping stones on my journey. It was also trine my mars, and sextile my ascendent... In whole sign, my NN was in his 7th house conjunct his pluto, also conjunct his SN, My DC was also in his 5th house lol... I mean, it was a strong connection, and definitely meant to be no matter how slightly traumatizing and short it was. In this case, he was in love with me, and I felt sort of similar but I was also very wary of him, so that sort of eroded my love for him.

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posted July 13, 2022 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had my NN conjunct someone’s ASC/Saturn and their NN conjunct my Venus. It didn’t amount to a committed relationship but the subtle attachment lasted years

Cycles of in and out. Eventually ball was dropped; when the time came to make a decision, they did not want to commit to me

I don’t know about attraction. Felt more like compulsion.

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posted July 13, 2022 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angryant2021     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had my sn conj another's venus and it was mutual but I approached first. Eventually I left and they held on for I think a few years.

My friends asc was conj anothers sn. She fell in love blindly and was hurt by the node person.

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posted July 24, 2022 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 25, 2022 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoPixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, the south node person is more aware of the spiritual past life connection, but the familiarity and comfort is felt on both parts. The closeness and bond is quite natural depending on the planet on the south node.

My son's Venus conjuncts my south node. The closeness is evident to everyone. He also has other aspects in his chart that indicate closeness to his mother, but it's a bond I've never experienced before.

I can see how in the future this closeness may start to get more challenging as he moves through life and is meant to become more independent from me.

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posted August 01, 2022 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
I have seen from previous threads the general consensus seems to be The Planet person is more attracted to the NN person. But when it comes to the SN, it is the SN person that is more attracted to the planet person.

Is this also generally the case when these points are conjunct someone's ascendant?


Yes, this has been my experience, both as SN in SN/Venus conjunction and as Venus in NN/Venus conjunction.

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Originally posted by PlutoPixie:
In my experience, the south node person is more aware of the spiritual past life connection, but the familiarity and comfort is felt on both parts. The closeness and bond is quite natural depending on the planet on the south node.

My son's Venus conjuncts my south node. The closeness is evident to everyone. He also has other aspects in his chart that indicate closeness to his mother, but it's a bond I've never experienced before.


I think that closeness is due to the parent/child relationship. IME it's not necessarily mutual in romantic cases.


With my current crush, we've got some mutual Venus/Node stuff going on. My Venus is exactly conjunct their NN and even though they initiated a lot, now that I'm reciprocating they seem to be resisting. Has anyone else been in a Venus/NN conjunction, and did the NN person resist? How long did they resist, is there any hope, or should the planet person move on knowing the node person may never embrace their nodal path?

We actually have mutual Venus/Node contacts, with each of us having a powerful Venus conjunction in our natals:

- My chart ruler, Moon, in OOS conjunction with my Venus
- Their chart ruler and NN ruler, Venus, conjunct their Mercury
- My Venus exactly conjunct their North Node in the 7th
- Their Venus/Mercury square my nodal axis

Besides my Venus, my sun is the same sign as their NN.

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posted August 02, 2022 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
counting 5 degrees and less I have

s. node conjunct husband's sun: we have fun fooling around and joking
s. node square pluto: I had to grow up a lot to get to where we are today.
n. node opposes sun: sometimes I feel like he hold's me back and that he could be more supportive
n. node square pluto: he could of been more supportive/empathetic when I busted my arse so much for us.

Husband's north node sextiles my moon: I've been more supportive than most women would be in my situation
North node sextile pluto: It has mostly benefited me letting my husband try a new path
north node square Sun: I have sun in 11th house I sometimes have to establish boundaries with friends because of our relationship.
North node sextile Lilith: He can be dark with me with out judgement.
N. node conjunct Neptune: best dates I've ever been on with anyone.

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posted August 02, 2022 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel that everyone I feel compelled to look up synastry with nodes are active on both sides so I feel like I'll never know.

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