posted September 02, 2017 05:53 AM            

This is the composite of myself and my manager, we used to be a great team but things have been extremely weird the past 1-2 months. She has been odd with me lately and making me feel like I'm constantly being tested and poked around.

I feel like things are about to go dire within the next couple of days or weeks, and I wonder, what do you see in this composite (betrayal?)?
Mind you, I'm not sure of her time of birth but it may be close to what is in the chart.

Your insights are much appreciated, many thanks!

posted September 03, 2017 11:30 AM            

venus is conjunct Uranus and opposed to eris conjunct chiron. the a grand cross is formed as the moon is opposed to Sappho.

this shows that the relationship has a sexual/emotional basis.

my take is that any work related problems are based on your rejection of her emotional advances/feelings toward you.

clearly your problems with her is because of some type of sexual harassment issue.

posted September 03, 2017 01:27 PM            

I was a bit surprised/shocked when I first saw our composite due to Venus conjunct both Uranus and Pluto.
But we've never met in person as our offices are not based in the same country, only had a few skype video calls. Ever since we started working together we've been very nice and polite to each other, however she has been a bit brash lately and I feel some hostility from her towards me.
There have been no emotional advances from either of us towards the other, however she has a male sidekick who sits beside her and so is also a manager of mine. He and I worked closely on a project together the past 2 months and may have appeared to be overly friendly with each other during this time. I believe she found this out and took it very personally, because as far as I know they are very warm with each other.

Yes, I do see a very personal issue in our composite but I believe it would be due to her sidekick. I'm thinking she may have gotten slightly jealous with us displaying personal interest in one another. But I don't think her sidekick was honest in his interest in me, ultimately he just wanted to hand over the entire project on to me and my teammate but that failed due to unforeseen circumstances.

posted September 03, 2017 08:11 PM            

I ran a tricomposite chart for the three of you and it shows a Saturn/node/mars conjunction which implies that he has a major say in how these dynamics will work out.
the juno/Jupiter midpointis conjunct to Lilith which shows they are both empowered in the business. venus is conjunct to juno which might show her attachment to him.

posted September 04, 2017 11:45 AM            

clearly ,she has a great interest in you emotionally so when you hit it off with her "side kick",
(I think he is the power behind her)she became threatened that he will start to favor you over her. so her claws have come out as she feels you have "betrayed" her affections. anyway you could move to another firm of somehow get out of her clutches?

posted September 04, 2017 05:04 PM            

[chart deleted as it came to light that one person's birth data was incorrect]

I'll probably edit out our names later but for now it's easier to just have them revealed - and maybe you can find better alternatives for her and him, as I couldn't.
All 3 of his names are prominent in my natal chart and show a similar theme, and my name is very prominent in her natal chart, making mostly difficult/unfavourable aspects.
Today he was the one being quite nasty to me which kind of hit me hard, I suppose we all evoke powerful feelings in one another.

posted September 05, 2017 01:04 PM            

sue's natalchart shows laura conjunct to nessus ans square to the sun/mars/pluto midpoints. this shows that sue is threatened by you, as sue is extremely ambitious and you may pose a threat to her.saphho square the node marks her a lesbian and sue is conjunct to warner so he seems to be in her corner.sedna opposed to Neptune could indicate that she is not open about her sexual preferences .
but again strangely threatening of blind ambitious desires here.

in warner's natal he is square to pluto marking him as extremely selfish and ambitious. sue is trine the moon so she balances his emotions. you are conjunct to chiron which could reflect your competence .
a strange and dark sexual nature as chiron is square to nessus with the midpoint conjunct to eris and eris is square to orcus and saphho. this is a very abusive dark sexual impulse. Sappho's presence seems to indicate he has an interest in bi women. possibly it shows he enjoy manage a trois.
but very harsh carnal feeling. since you are conjunct to chiron, he is including you in these dark fantasies .

in your composite with sue, as I have already mentioned, she has a very strong sexual attraction for you. here laura and sue are conjunct and square to warner.... so it seems he is involved in sues sexual ideas.

in your and warner composite he is conjunct to venus indicating he has a great attraction for you.it is not particularly dark.
sue is opposed to mars and the midpoint is opposed to chiron . this tends to indicate you and warner's affection will antagonize her.this is suggest further as the midpoint of sue/warner is square to the Saturn/sun conjunction. with juno opposed to the moon,it seems he is inclined to advance your career also.

in their composite venus is opposed to eris and trine towarner so they seem to have a sexual affection. but you are conjunct to eris so again you are drawn into their sexual fanatasy. sue is opposed to the moon and square to pluto. this is a bit ominious as sue is drawing up unconscious emotions. it could be sexual. sue/laura midpoint is square to Neptune/mercury/sun. clearly she would be the negative influence here and she is not speaking the truth . this pattern is symbolic of gossip. I am thinking that they initially were thinking bout setting you up for some sexual encounter but that sue has now backed out because she sees that warner is has strong affection for you. so this is bringing out jealousy and her gossip attacks to derail anything you and warner might develop.
saphho is on the ascendant so the image of a ménage a trois keeps coming up

the tricomposite shows laura opposed to Jupiter and square to warner with warner opposed to the moon. I feel that this shows that warner wants to advance you to a executive position and with mars/node/Saturn he apparently has the authority to do this.

interestingly saphho is conjunct to sedan which is sextile to laura and trine to Jupiter.saphho and sedna are exactly to the arc minute in conjunction. this implies that the sexual escapades would have to be divulged. Sue is sextile to mercury and Neptune and trine to Uranus and pluto. this shows she has a voice in these dynamics but again with mercury and neptune,this is very suggestive of the gossipy or subtle way she is criticizing you. she has to develop a pattern that does not seem to be directly against you but rather reflective of some type of professional deficiency.

posted September 23, 2017 05:50 PM            

Anyway, I'll try to address as many of your points as possible, given the recent news, and then some. If I had replied to this reading 2 weeks ago it wouldn't have been realistic but the good thing should be that I now have more that I can comment on, as I've been able to gather some important information during this time.

I really don't love the fact that in my natal chart Sue and Warner are opposite each other exact and also square my Ascendant/Descendant. They indeed have equal power over me and can pull my leash at any time. Sue is the manager, so her name conjunct my Jupiter makes a lot of sense, Warner is assistant manager and conjunct Ixion fits really well as he does come off as ruthless and brusque at times.
Neither of them is involved in hiring/firing employees within our company, however with regards to the actual work they perform, we work with a huge database of people so there is a lot of 'allocation' and 'assigning' as we call it. So, in the broader sense of things they are both involved in allocating work to many people but Simon is definitely more involved in it than she is. What makes you think these dynamics are strange to see?

Sue's natal chart is pretty cool. Definitely has a bossy feeling to it with her strong stellium of Sun, Mars, Pluto, Venus, etc. in Leo opposite my Ascendant. Too bad my name there is conjunct Nessus and square her bossy midpoints. It could be that she felt somehow threatened by me hence her switch in behaviour towards me. Definitely not as personal and nice as she used to be. I am absolutely certain Warner is in her corner - he could not be any other way.
As for her sexual preference, I obviously can't comment on that as I just don't know. However, I know for a fact she has a husband who she lives with. Perhaps she may be bisexual as there is the tight stellium of masculine energy which also seems to loosely blend with her feminine planets. So there might be something to it and it would make sense for her not to be open about it I suppose. But you have to consider this woman is now in her 60's so I wouldn't imagine her being sexual.
I would not be surprised if her 'blind ambitions' were/are in a way threatened by me due to the nature of our work. It is just that this one project that Simon was trying to hand me over is very complicated with a very demanding client and in the end Sue had to take over things to sort out the issues that had come up. I suspect Simon said something against me to protect himself even though I was only following his guidelines and he always had the last word. I'm sure they both went through a very stressful period with this and the company owner was then checking on Simon.
I and my teammate were not really told any of it, only that they're taking back the project to deal with themselves, which felt like they hid some important information from us.
But Sue definitely shows some personal preference towards my teammate.

Unfortunately I'm not able to comment on your analysis on Simon's natal but in his real chart (duh) Warner and Ixion are conjunct, also he has Sun conjunct Pluto, Mars semi-square Pluto and Uranus, and Moon in Scorpio, so I think this, again, confirms that, overall, he has a ruthless nature, with a selfish/ambitious streak.

Here's our composite chart:

Despite a few beneficial aspects Warner and Ixion are, again, conjunct along with the Sun and Lilith opposite Chiron. Mercury conjunct Uranus with the south node opposite Sedna. Warner also semi-sextile Neptune. Mars opposite Neptune. Eris is opposite Pluto which in turn is semi-square the Moon.
Saturn is opposite Nessus and they square the nodal axis. Although I don't fully understand what some of these aspects mean, especially the nodes and asteroid ones, I would think they point to selfishness and betrayal in play on his part.
It also makes me think this confirms my observations that his interest in me was never honest, it was just to forward his personal ambitions. There is no way he would be inclined to advance my career.

Sue and Simon both have their Mercury at 4' Virgo conjunct my South Node. Simon has his South Node conjunct my Sun and Uranus, his Uranus is also conjunct my South Node. My Vertex sits on his Pluto Uranus midpoint. Sue's North Node is loosely conjunct my Sun. I'm guessing these links are quite important. They don't seem to have personally significant nodal aspects between themselves other than South Node conjunct North Node.
Also, Simon's Nessus is smack on my Moon... and I believe my Moon falls in to his 8th house.
I would say their synastry is pretty weird for a professional relationship, or any significant relationship really, but to me it shows that she has the upper hand which would totally resonate given the circumstances.
I've looked into their composite chart which I think describes a professional relationship more appropriately, and from what I have heard Simon is all over her - making her coffee, constantly being around her etc., and apparently she made him a significant surprise at work for his birthday
Mars and Venus are tightly conjunct but square to Neptune. There is probably mutual affection between them but it must be with Simon being a bit more involved than she is. They may both be hiding some important things from each other or have a weakening effect on one another. In their composite Warner is not in aspect to Ixion, so I'm thinking he does not show his ruthless nature infront of her. And if she has somehow become aware of his personal approach to me (which I believe she may have) she may have been a bit shocked by him, or probably both of us. And the best part I think is that he does not realise that she may know. but that's only based on observations, not solid facts.

As for my composite with Sue, Laura conjunct Sue square Warner - I think I can recognise this theme in one particular situation - there was one occasion where there was an error with the set up of a project so Sue thought it was my fault but I asked her to check the logs as it couldn't have been mine and it turned out to be Simon's fault and so she said she'd tell him off.
However, I don't think she could be in any way attracted to me. The strong aspects in our synastry and composite may suggest this but we have to factor in our circumstances. I think it mostly just points to a fated partnership. I have been pondering on our Uranus Venus Pluto conjunction and what it could mean in non-intimate or professional relationships. I went digging in to other composites and found out I have a close Uranus Venus conjunction with my uncle. Also Pluto opposite Moon. So based on my relationship with my uncle the Uranus Venus conjunction shows platonic feelings and a common interest in all that is foreign, e.g. places, cultures, food, etc. Now I have to admit that when I was little (under 10) we had a short intimate moment but it was nothing significant or memorable, thankfully. I guess it also shows that our relationship is on and off since we communicate and see each other very rarely. Same with Sue - intermittent communication, and as we are from different cultures and countries we are foreign to each other.
Pluto conjunct Venus in a composite chart I have come to understand (from personal experience also) brings two people together to experience sex as part of their relationship and as a 'reward' for past life affairs or something along those lines. A highly karmic aspect. I don't know why it would appear in our composite with Sue but what is suggested by it I find very amusing but way too out there.

In our tri-composite I notice Laura is square to Warner and Venus is conjunct the south node. Uranus and Pluto are conjunct squaring Mars which I would think points to some serious arguments and fights.

I think this is all I had to say for now, so far nothing has really come to light (yet?) but things between us all still feel and look a bit weird. I still kind of expect some sudden major blow up against me but we'll see.

posted October 09, 2017 03:34 PM            

you are female? as the corrected composite is marked male???

posted October 12, 2017 12:10 PM            

looking at the revised tricomposite, Sappho is square to sue which gives her a same sex orientation.soit seems there is a emotional interest toward you.

warner is square to laura and the midpoint is conjunct the descendant, Saturn and the vertex.
this pattern shows a tension between you and him. he is the dominant force here and has autocratic powers.
uranus is square the ascendant et.al.which really looks unstable.

venus ic conjunct the south node and the sue/pluto midpoint is also conjunct the south node. Venus and the node shows a successful business partnership especially as Jupiter is sextile to the moon.
so the tensions are not based on the business but on the interpersonal relationships.
from this it seems that warner is not in your corner but sue has very strong emotional connection to you so warner may be holding his resistance to you in, for sues sake.
with chiron opposes to Uranus and square to the mars/Saturn opposition , this really seem to be a tense situation. Nessus is opposed to Saturn.it really seems as if you are interfering with warner's authority.
with a grand trine of warner ,the node and orcus,he is certainly the center of this business. with Jupiter sextile to the moon and trine to juno,the business side of this relationship seems very successful and the transiting node has been moving through these sextile and trines.

but the node will been moving across the warner/aura square November so I would expect stress to develop between you and warner then.
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the sue/laura midpoint is conjunct to Neptune and sextile to pluto.so there seems to be a clam sensitivity between you, but neptune can show duplicity if tensions develop.

the sue/warner midpoint is conjunct to the sun/mercury conjunction and square to eros shows they have a very war working relationship.

with eris also opposed to the sun, they might have a sexual relationship also,though it really seems sue is partial to women.so the affection could just be limited mutual respect and admiration for the business. though with venus conjuct the node being so sexual ,it is difficult not to see them sexual involved.the Venus/node sexualizes the all relationships so there could be a question of jealousy being played out.
it still looks like sue hidden feelings to you are directly or indirectly causing you concern

posted October 15, 2017 10:59 AM            

Many thanks for taking the time to look into the revised tricomposite!

It's so funny how the Sappho theme keeps appearing with Sue. She can be quite expressive or emotional if she wants to but she really extends more warmth towards my teammate (who is male) and appears to be more reserved towards me, even snippy at times, at least this has been the case the past few months. I still wonder if this stems from some disappointment in me, if anything, it should be professional rather than personal but nothing has been said. If there was a professional error someone would have said so as this is our work ethic so we can all learn from our mistakes etc. However if it's related to the project they had to withdraw they may have not deemed it necessary to say anything at that point as we stopped working on it.
I see some of her treatment as a bit unprofessional if she's nice towards my teammate and different with me, just seems to show personal preference which is a bad work ethic. This is to be expected to an extent in our company, I guess, and people are people but I'd like to understand what lead to this.

I will deviate a bit now to clarify the overall situation...
In essence this job is so funny and weird as it's 'long-distance' and all employees are grouped into different teams - all of our team managers are overseas and communication between offices is online or via phone/skype meetings. I do enjoy this setup in a way but in general there's little transparency between the two offices which leaves lots of room for misunderstandings and misinterpretation of things. It's common belief between some of us that the bosses/managers use this situation to their advantage, as long as the work is getting done they don't really care about anything else.

Anyway, this upcoming week the company owner and account director will be visiting our office so perhaps if there is something to discuss they'd have a chat with me in person.
Then on their way back they will take my teammate to visit their office for a few days so he will have a chance to meet with Sue and Warner and see how they interact and treat one another. We love joking that they're very fond of each other and can't keep their hands off each other but he will be telling me what he has witnessed so I will definitely be coming back to update once I know more about this.

Back to your interpretation, yes, I think the business partnership is still successful despite the awkward interpersonal relationships. However, it's still not totally clear but it should be work that is at the base of any interpersonal discord.
Laura and Warner often come up square or semi-sextile in most configurations I've played with, but on a few we are in a trine. It makes sense to see the Venus South Node conjunction being the midpoint for Sue with Pluto. I would say she is the driving force behind us 3 as the team leader, but remains in the background, and is not as closely involved with me as Warner is. This should be why Warner appears in the centre as the dominating force, clashing with me. He does have an arbitrary influence at times and on some occasions I have not agreed with him and did not like how he handled some situations. I've kept it to myself on most occasions, but there has been a bit of open fire on a few of these, during which things felt really tense between me and him.
I notice Laura is involved in the Juno-Jupiter trine and opposite the Moon if we widen the orbs a bit. I think this may mean I carry the supportive role in this business partnership.

In general, yes, there is a calm sensitivity between me and Sue, and if we ignore the past 2 months uncertainty and weirdness, I usually feel relaxed and at ease with her but as you say duplicity may have now cropped up with the tension that has developed.

To be fair to them both they have been going through extreme stress at work these past 2 months and honestly I have no idea how they survive.

I don't know if they have a war-like working relationship, maybe only when I am added into the mix as this comes up in our tricomposite?
Even if Sue is secretly partial to women I don't think this interferes in her relationships with males. I do believe Sue and Warner are genuinely affectionate with each other and it probably goes a little beyond the business but my teammate will soon be able to tell more, hopefully and I would not be surprised if jealousy crops up at times.

I do expect something major to go down for me in November as not only will the node be transiting the Laura/Warner square, it will be going over my Descendant during this time as well. Also, I've looked up my Lunar Return for November and in there is another clue that something significant for me will be happening in the professional department.
Pluto falls into the 6th house and Uranus in the 10th conjunct the MC. Last time I had this configuration was in mid August when they withdrew that big project from me and my teammate. As expected my teammate also had this configuration then (I do know his birth time). However, he won't have the configuration this time. In fact, if I've gotten Sue's and Warner's birth times pretty close to what they really are, they must have both had this configuration for August as well, as it affected them in a similar way. And in that case it's interesting to note that the only person who will have this configuration in November along with myself is Sue, but I will have to wait and see how things go, it should be interesting.

posted October 24, 2017 09:18 PM            

a bunch of 8s and 4s.with the node Uranus the best method to handle the energy is to intensify. There is likely to be harsh friction which could be combustible. Apply your self more energetically to your tasks at had. do not let your momentum be hindered by extraneous emotional issues.pay especial attentions to detail.the littlest omission can severely weaken you foundation.

posted January 05, 2018 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
a bunch of 8s and 4s.with the node Uranus the best method to handle the energy is to intensify. There is likely to be harsh friction which could be combustible. Apply your self more energetically to your tasks at had. do not let your momentum be hindered by extraneous emotional issues.pay especial attentions to detail.the littlest omission can severely weaken you foundation.

you have the most favorable perspective one can employ right now. create a future beginning from the dissolution of the present ,
todd

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Thank you so much for this invaluable advice, todd! I have been trying to not give in to the emotional issues and just look after what needs to be done. It has been difficult however as I was in an extremely weakened state.
What does 'a bunch of 8s and 4s' mean - a bunch of cr@p?

I have been meaning to update this thread - I have updated all charts and they should now reflect the birth times of Suess and Warner pretty accurately. The events of the past few months really helped in pinning the times down.

I'll try to keep it as concise as possible. Some of my predictions on here did come true. First of all, Suess got promoted in October - I believe she must have been working towards this in the summer, but when that one particular project was receiving some heat and had to be revised would have been the most crucial time for her, so maybe this is why I felt she was upset with me, or upset in general. It now really makes sense - it all probably threatened her getting promoted. Anyway, who could say 'No' to her with her extremely bossy and selfish chart? Warner apparently was also struggling for professional emancipation but I don't believe he got it. Ever since she got promoted she has been appearing 'aggressive' in business matters and no longer cares to be a team-player; does not let us or me know things that are of importance which in turn affects my work. There was a big team re-structuring, she only told me about it once the changes had already taken place. We were merged with another team, so I am now made to work with 4 new people.
This affected me in a big way as I was transitioned into working with the new people, who are all 'above me', which is ridiculous as I am one person who now has 4-5 superiors to report to. It's crazy and inefficient. As if Suess and Warner were not enough. Anyway, Warner and I really did stop working together, at least for now it seems. It came as a bit of a shock to me in the way it happened, I wasn't told I will be starting to work with the new people, I thought I would still remain with Warner and Suess. The entire situation caused me stress but was a relief to Suess and Warner as they had too much on their plates before this change. The effects of these events were going around in November.

Anyway, I was going to update on what my teammate had observed while he visited the office and had a chance to meet everyone in person. He sat with Suess and Warner and thought that there was definitely something going on between them two.
I think they are some type of soulmates to me. They both have an impact on my professional and personal life also. Warner in particular had a big influence over some of my personal attitudes and goals. I believe I also had some special impact on his. I feel our connection is very unique and important and the work related stuff were just the basis for something larger at play. We have Neptune conjunct the Composite Ascendant and Pluto sextile them from the 10th. That is powerful in its effect and feels so significant. I'm not too sure about him but it really spurred me up to think about our connection and then transform areas of my life that needed it. I do feel he was strongly affected by it too, in general I feel him close, perhaps due to all that occurred.
It was extremely difficult to cut through the Neptune fog at first and there was a lot of confusion between us but his presence was elevating for me and he actually helped me deal with some personal stuff, just by interacting with me from time to time. I believe our connection has some special healing and uplifting effect and I had never experienced anything even remotely close to it. In a matter of a few weeks with the help of just his influence I was able to completely wipe out a previous relationship that had a very bad impact on me. Prior to this I was not able to truly let go of it and get out of it despite a few 'soulmates' coming along to pull me out of its chains. They just couldn't stay around long enough, I guess, or their influence was not strong enough. Maybe I'm seeing this far too spiritually but it is how I feel it is. I was then more motivated to slowly get myself and my things together.
So focusing on this alone, I am very grateful to Warner but I obviously cannot voice my thankfulness to him, even though I kind of want to. I doubt he would able to understand it all and how he, or our connection impacted me, it was all a bit overblown anyway.
During Halloween he had the chance to see me on a picture for the first time. You could tell that prior to that his idea of me was wrong. I also noticed once again that he seems nicer than usual to me while Suess is out of the office. I think he is a bit afraid or mindful of her. My teammate said he appeared affectionate when he was bringing her cups of coffee.

And now the big news - I have been invited to visit them in 10 days. I'm super anxious. My Saturn Return is just about to get started, and I just had Saturn go over my Sun. Ah, how helpful that transit actually was. I don't think I used the most of this time but it was still very important to go over it.
Anyway, during my visit to their office - on the 18th and 19th - I and Warner seem to have similar transits which are pretty significant.
- I will have my first Saturn Return during this time, he would have just had Saturn sextile his natal Saturn.
- Saturn will be semi-sextile my natal Venus and approaching an inconjunct to my natal Moon. He will be having Saturn inconjunct his natal Venus and transiting Saturn will just be ascending to a semi-square to his natal Moon.
- The transiting node will be sextile our composite Pluto. Transiting Pluto is semi-sextile my Ascendant now, and if I've got his time accurately - Pluto should have just come off a square to his.
- Our natal Jupiters are both at 26-27 degrees in Taurus, so on these 2 days transiting Sun will be trining them. The transiting at the time Sun and Venus conjunction will be trine to our composite Jupiter.
- Transiting Venus will be conjunct our composite Saturn (who makes a trine to composite Venus, thus transiting Venus will be trine composite Venus, trine composite Mars and square the composite nodes).
- Transiting Saturn will square our composite Venus exact, inconjunct Mars, and sextile/trine the composite nodes.

Couldn't help but notice all of these patterns, they seem pretty significant and I definitely do not have anything that special going on in my composite with Suess at the time. It is being planned that I restart working on that difficult project that caused everyone stress, and we will be going over it during my visit. I suspect I will be bound to Warner's work once again, if he is the one who looks after this project.
But is that all these timely transits signify - business ventures?
Also, my Relocation Ascendant to their place of work falls close to Warner's South Node (along with my natal Sun and Uranus being there)... that's another karmic soulmate aspect, which I'm not fond of. I have my Ascendant conjunct the South Node of my ex (who made me miserable as explained above) within the same degrees. I think Warner might just be another Devil in disguise, and the nebulously good aspects of our connection might completely wear off once we finally meet in person. If so I would probably pray for Suess to break us apart if we are to resume working together or whatever.
It's interesting to note that for the past few months I have often been seeing his name at random times and places, and there is this thing - I really notice his name, I just get a really strong feeling for it when I see it, wondering what these signs are telling me. Never had this happen with anyone else, or definitely not to this extent.
In general though I've been unhappy with the whole new team situation, I'll see how things unfold after my visit but I've been feeling like I want to just tell them all off and join another team

Sorry for another long post that came about later than I had intended to, but at least it helped me vent a bit
So, it should be an interesting visit, despite me sh1tting some bricks about it.