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Topic: Why did this composite fail?
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manderin
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posted June 02, 2018 02:02 PM
  
I was pretty excited about this relationship at first, but it ended as quickly as it started. Why? There are Uranus contacts, but they are all sextiles and trines.  IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty
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posted June 02, 2018 03:31 PM
Chart ruler is in the 5th house. A 5th house composite sun or chart ruler in composite is often indicative of a fling or other short-term affair that never really manages to find a way to kick off past the "pretty" stages where there is little for each partner to commit themselves to. The Sun is also in the 12th which I don't think is good. I've said this in an earlier thread (can't remember which) but I do not think the mutable houses are good for the inner planets in the composite. Mutable houses in composite indicate some sort of hidden issue or something that you have an issue resolving/bringing up/finding. You don't agree on something or you are constantly judging each other for something. Playing games with each other and manipulating each other is with the mutable houses I don't like these houses for inner composite planets. If mutable houses are to be present in the composite, I would think it is better to have them in the outer planets or even in the asteroids....Composite Sun in 12th can indicate that the identity of this relationship was meant to dissolve in SOME way. There are many ways to interpret that (such as you guys finding yourselves needing to be individuals within your relationship) but in this case it obviously means that your relationship quite literally dissolved as soon as it started (Chart ruler in 5th). You're right, though, those are very nice Uranus contacts. I would kill for those in a Uranian composite. The chart ruler is sextile Uranus. You guys probably got together very very quickly (Uranus) and it was probably a very communicative (3rd house) and emotional affair (Moon) when it sparked (5th house). But there is really nothing backing any of this up. Gracious aspects to Uranus are very nice but if that is all there is, it is really not doing much. There is also Moon opposite Saturn which I think can be a very nice composite aspect to have if the two are willing to work through it. However, Moon is the chart ruler so opposite Saturn there were probably issues of seeing longevity for the identity couple, especially with the Uranus and 5th house. Not to mention Saturn is also in the 11th house. That kind of counters the Uranus sextile moon. The 7th house ruler is also Saturn in the 11th opposite Moon. So you had the chart ruler and the 7th house ruler opposing one another from the two most individual houses of 5th and 11th. Was there an issue of individuality in this relationship? Could you two not see a balance between being a couple and being individuals? Sun/5th house and Uranus/11th seems to be a theme in this composite. Your Sun conjunct Venus and Mercury is also very nice but again the mutable house is worrisome...there was some issue between you two as a couple I feel. An issue that neither of you probably wanted to bring up, perhaps? Or an issue you just couldn't find no matter how hard you looked.... Something between you two didn't click just right, though there was a possibility for it to progress smoothly. IP: Logged |
manderin
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posted June 02, 2018 04:11 PM
Yes! Basically I felt hurt by some things he said to me, so I confronted him with it. Then he just ran away and did not acknowledge my hurt, did not apologize or talk to me. He literally just bolted. His Saturn is also square my moon in synastry. So perhaps he just didn't care about my feelings and decided to leave it at that.IP: Logged |
outofideas
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posted June 02, 2018 05:20 PM
I see many aspects that do not support a stable relationship with potential for growth. Sun and Mercury are apart... there's not enough communication to hold things together.
Sun is semi-square Saturn - this prevents the relationship from really coming together if there is not a huge age difference or distance.
Mars semi-square Pluto - terrible fights and arguments, not much compromise. This aspects is not really seen in working relationships.
Jupiter square Uranus and sesquiquadrate Neptune - this relationship is not build on anything solid. Promises and plans are often not fulfilled. Little stability.
Node sesquiquadrate Moon - although he was really drawn to you this relationship is not favourable for you (if you are the female). IP: Logged |
todd
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posted June 02, 2018 06:56 PM
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Kannon McAfee
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posted June 03, 2018 06:11 PM
Find the answers in the synastry. Composite charts are for those relationships (like parent-child or married couples) that are established and where the lives are merged.
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todd
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posted June 03, 2018 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Find the answers in the synastry. Composite charts are for those relationships (
stay with what you know
you obvious don't understand composites.
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outofideas
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posted June 04, 2018 04:48 AM
Did your post get deleted todd?  IP: Logged |
manderin
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posted June 04, 2018 06:40 PM
I did get a chance to read your post Todd. You were correct in that he is a workaholic and I found out that he has been trolling online sex hook up sites for YEARS and even destroyed his marriage by cheating on his wife that way. He was indeed not being honest with me as you predicted.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 04, 2018 06:44 PM
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nordicsoul
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posted June 06, 2018 02:20 AM
composites with strong neptune aspect (literally aspect the cancer stellium) promise much and follows dissapointment (unless people are very honest, objective by nature) and can understand neptunian energy... this is reinforced by planets in 12, with sun on it. as some has pointed out, sun in 12 of composite tend to be self-destroying. like the relationship is born with a sabotage button.the moon-saturn opposition is awful. forget about the "binding" of saturn. saturn-moon in composite an ingraine self-censoring, and emotional walls between the two. if you want more details about how the composite played out for each individual, look at the aspects the composite planets make to each natal chart. then you see how the relationship was seen-perceived-experienced by each individual i wish i could have read Todd post, but it is not there anymore. i suspect the lying thing has to do with neptune in 5th aspecting mercury. it also conjunct the ruler of the ascendant. IP: Logged |
HelixID
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posted June 09, 2018 06:40 PM
I would look at where the progressed composite Moon was at the beginning of your relationship and which planet it aspected at the end of it.
This also seems to be a sidereal chart. Could you post the tropical?IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted June 20, 2018 11:06 PM
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Randall
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posted June 27, 2018 12:29 PM
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Randall
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posted July 03, 2018 09:48 PM
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waxlobster
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posted July 04, 2018 11:31 AM
I don't understand this chart, the Ascendant is almost at the end of the 1st House? What have you chosen (for a house system)?Am I to then believe that most of the planets which appear to be in the 1st house are actually in the 12th?? If so I think that's answer enough, 12th House is 'unseen' issues in a relationship. So basically problems will be projected onto one another, rather than recognised and worked through together. It takes a lot of insight to know what you're working on if it's in the 12th. It's not impossible, but it would require meditation and a real setting aside of defences and ego matters.
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todd
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posted July 05, 2018 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by outofideas:
Did your post get deleted todd?
I deleted my response..... if I don't get any feed back in a timely fashion then I delete my resonse ,as feed back is the only method to improve my craft.
I am sensitive to the uderlying group of members that don't like my style, so when I see that no response is forthcoming I assume the OP is of that camp. mandarin ignored my post and went on to other posts so I deleted, though I must thank manderin for the feedback given now. todd IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 14, 2018 11:04 AM
Thanks, todd.IP: Logged |
sassaqua
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posted July 15, 2018 08:50 AM
What type of composite is this?It's not the midpoint method that I am familiar with. Can you post that one? IP: Logged |
ScandinavianCrab
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posted July 15, 2018 03:33 PM
It looks like the chart is erected with the Sidereal zodiac and the equal house system?With the tropical zodiac that cancer stellium would probably be in Leo. With the tropical zodiac and the placidus house system it looks like we have a 12th house stellium including the chart ruler. In my experience 12th house is not a cool place in composites and a stellium there wouldn't work for most people I believe. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode
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posted July 15, 2018 03:54 PM
Why post the Draco?IP: Logged |
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