posted October 19, 2018 09:23 AM            

I attached my composite chart along with the davidson chart of me and a guy i recently met. Since then, i am unable to get him out of my mind, i feel that there is some kind of fatedness to our meeting but now i don't know which chart to trust. I would also appreciate a little help interpreting the charts. Thank you!

Composite chart

posted October 19, 2018 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
Someone told me that the composite chart is how you two relate as a team and the davidson chart is only how others view you two as a couple.

I don't know who to believe.

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Well i hope an experienced member helps us make out the difference between the two.

posted October 19, 2018 07:49 PM            

The davison is a map that shows how you feel about each other and how the relationship manifests in concrete ways so IME it shows what is going on internally and how the relationship manifests externally, it can be read like a natal chart. The composite is an extension to the synastry and should be interpreted in context to the synastry and how it interlinks to the composite.

posted October 19, 2018 08:32 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Can you post your synastry please so we can see the natals as well?

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Yes of course, here is our syastry chart. I'm the Virgo Sun

posted October 19, 2018 10:48 PM            

If there is regular interaction, that's when I'd look at the other charts. Although having said that, it's still fun to snoop around at them as an exercise.

Pull factors in synastry
First - your Mars is closely opposite his Sun - this is a sense of coming across someone you view as your equal. It is a competitive factor though that can begin with high energy, great rhythm vibes, and strong and hot awareness of eachother.

Because your Mars is conjunct Juno, anything that activates your Mars will be an alert to your "partner material"-seeking radar. Mars is also the ruler of your Ascendant so it creates an easy and natural rapport.

Your Mars too, is on his SN. Not sure how much interaction you both have together, but this is a significant trigger for rapport. It creates a sense of familiarity and "fatedness" between the two involved. He will be alerted to you; his alertedness will register with you, and then him again. In a looping feedback between you both.

Second - You're a pretty shy person underneath with those planets in Virgo. And also your Saturn in the 11H. He seems to be somewhat more outgoing, with his Sag Sun, and the ruler of his Sun, good time Jupiter on your DC. I assume this is an alluring element for you, that you've found someone that you might connect with and who can play a strong masculine role for you.

Also, his Venus to your Saturn in your 11H there (although not conjunct), is a gentle but inviting tone that evokes friendship (it's a balm to your inhibitory Saturn in the 11H). It gently encourages you to reach out to him, with the hope of a connection where you can do lovely things with each other.

On any account, Venus in the 11th house is a superb placement for awakening to (potential) trusted friends and being in the presence of someone you can imagine you would like to do beautiful things together. So, the friendship interest is there with this placement, and increases a sense of kindred spirits and romance too, because it's Venus.

Also, your Saturns there in the 11H are in same sign - so the way you manage things, generally, is understood, recognised and respected.

Third - his Mercury is close square your Moon. His manner of talking and communicating will awaken your deep emotional side, and a sense of kindred-ness. As your Moon is the ruler of your IC, this compounds a sense that this person potentially is one of deep sympathy and familiarity with yourself.

He also has a sensitive side that you can tune into well, again that is alluring. His Moon and Mars are in Cancer (sensitive and receptive). And they fall into your 4H - so, again, a deep core sense of "knowing" is there.

Hope that helps

Back to my exam studies

posted October 19, 2018 11:04 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
NO the davison is not how people view you as a couple.

The davison is a map that shows how you feel about each other and how the relationship manifests in concrete ways so IME it shows what is going on internally and how the relationship manifests externally, it can be read like a natal chart. The composite is an extension to the synastry and should be interpreted in context to the synastry and how it interlinks to the composite.

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I'm kinda confused by this. So both the composite and the davidson tell you the same thing, but the only difference is that you incorporate one into synastry and the other you don't?

If that's the case then why bother using both? Might as well just use the davidson so you don't have to bother with synastry, right? Please clarify as I am interested in learning more.

posted October 19, 2018 11:18 PM            

hypatia238, and me too, with all our Sag and Jupiter, like to look at the big picture and locate the details within that larger context.

posted October 19, 2018 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
I'm kinda confused by this. So both the composite and the davidson tell you the same thing, but the only difference is that you incorporate one into synastry and the other you don't?

If that's the case then why bother using both? Might as well just use the davidson so you don't have to bother with synastry, right? Please clarify as I am interested in learning more.

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posted October 19, 2018 11:25 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
No because we like to look at them all. So we can learn as well from everything, and within the whole picture.

hypatia238, and me too, with all our Sag and Jupiter, like to look at the big picture and locate the details within that larger context.

It provides a holistic view for you too

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posted October 20, 2018 06:53 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
If anyone just met someone, I would look to the synastry first to locate the "pull"-factor on any account.

If there is regular interaction, that's when I'd look at the other charts. Although having said that, it's still fun to snoop around at them as an exercise.

Pull factors in synastry
First - your Mars is closely opposite his Sun - this is a sense of coming across someone you view as your equal. It is a competitive factor though that can begin with high energy, great rhythm vibes, and strong and hot awareness of eachother.

Because your Mars is conjunct Juno, anything that activates your Mars will be an alert to your "partner material"-seeking radar. Mars is also the ruler of your Ascendant so it creates an easy and natural rapport.

Your Mars too, is on his SN. Not sure how much interaction you both have together, but this is a significant trigger for rapport. It creates a sense of familiarity and "fatedness" between the two involved. He will be alerted to you; his alertedness will register with you, and then him again. In a looping feedback between you both.

Second - You're a pretty shy person underneath with those planets in Virgo. And also your Saturn in the 11H. He seems to be somewhat more outgoing, with his Sag Sun, and the ruler of his Sun, good time Jupiter on your DC. I assume this is an alluring element for you, that you've found someone that you might connect with and who can play a strong masculine role for you.

Also, his Venus to your Saturn in your 11H there (although not conjunct), is a gentle but inviting tone that evokes friendship (it's a balm to your inhibitory Saturn in the 11H). It gently encourages you to reach out to him, with the hope of a connection where you can do lovely things with each other.

On any account, Venus in the 11th house is a superb placement for awakening to (potential) trusted friends and being in the presence of someone you can imagine you would like to do beautiful things together. So, the friendship interest is there with this placement, and increases a sense of kindred spirits and romance too, because it's Venus.

Also, your Saturns there in the 11H are in same sign - so the way you manage things, generally, is understood, recognised and respected.

Third - his Mercury is close square your Moon. His manner of talking and communicating will awaken your deep emotional side, and a sense of kindred-ness. As your Moon is the ruler of your IC, this compounds a sense that this person potentially is one of deep sympathy and familiarity with yourself.

He also has a sensitive side that you can tune into well, again that is alluring. His Moon and Mars are in Cancer (sensitive and receptive). And they fall into your 4H - so, again, a deep core sense of "knowing" is there.

Hope that helps

Back to my exam studies

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Thank you sassaqua for the synastry analysis. Everything that you've written there rings true, at least for me, this person, even with little interaction is helping me, on a psychological level to get through some hard times. I certainly felt the familiarity since day one, it hit me that I know this person on a deep level and there is something that I cannot explain with words so I thought that astrology could explain it. Good luck with the exams ☺️

posted October 20, 2018 08:07 PM            

In that case, his Saturn AND his Venus in your [edit] 11H [edit] is a sense of that solid sense of support.

There is also some soft, and deeper emotional points to this synastry: the points already mentioned, and I also note that his Juno is on your MC, which is a deep rapport too for that "special" emotional side.

Mars opposite Sun otoh is pretty HOT.

posted October 20, 2018 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
You're welcome

In that case, his Saturn AND his Venus in your 12H is a sense of that solid sense of support.

There is also some soft, and deeper emotional points to this synastry: the points already mentioned, and I also note that his Juno is on your MC, which is a deep rapport too for that "special" emotional side.

Mars opposite Sun otoh is pretty HOT.

There's always more to look at. Feel free to ask more specific questions for myself and others.

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Thanks again sassaqua!

posted October 20, 2018 09:19 PM            

No, it doesn't always mean violence. It depends on the weighting and the whole rapport of the two charts.

Point 1: looking right now at JUST his Mars there, it looks good: 1. because it's so at the end of your 4H (but this is your TOB dependent), and 2. because it's well aspected by you.

But, we'd like to have a look at how his Mars is in his chart. Is it a violent/frustrated Mars? It is close to his Moon (potentially; TOB dependent) so his Mars may have some random, unconscious emotional content attached to it. To find out how his Mars is we'd need to look at his natal.

Additionally, we'd look further at other aspects in the synastry between you both to discover if there are potential frustrations there. We'd assess the weight of these aspects (how many/how powerful), and therefore to what degree his Mars would be triggered or challenged in that synastry.

For example - your Mars is opposite his Sun, which can be a bit antagonising (but also fun and sexy). How will his Mars handle that? How will his inherent manner of protecting his boundaries (Mars) respond? And how much will that lovely trine from your Venus and Jupiter in Virgo soothe his Mars down? (Personally, I think that all looks pretty good :P )

Refer to point 1 above, it looks good, but, to pick one aspect out we'd have to look more at how his Mars is managed.
Which is shown in his natal chart

posted October 21, 2018 08:43 AM            

Mars opposite Uranus is generally known as a bit of trouble. And, with his Mars conjunct his Moon, this could compound to being a high-strung person, with sometimes erratic emotions, outbursts and energy. With Neptune it can be a sense that he feels he is being underminded, or that people are lying to him. And he may be passive aggressive in a misfiring response.

These aspects are wide enough to not be too compulsive or surprising and I don't think are a great issue in this case. Meaning, he is capable of managing the tension that comes from this opposition. However, his Jupiter is forming a square to those planets, which is potentially inflaming. But, again, it's nice and wide so not a big trouble.

Something to watch out for: his Moon is opposite his Venus. And, that Moon is attached to his Mars. This, with the point above, is now something worth being aware of.

They say Moon opposite Venus can create a conflict with a man's attachment with women. They say it can lead to cheating (see link below, and you can google this more). So, a sense that other people might be cheating on him (Venus opposite Moon), or lying (Neptune) might make him nervous (Uranus) and consequently angry (Mars).

But really, that Venus opposite Moon (and Mars) is an internal tension inside of him, related to his primal emotions and trust (Moon) and his self esteem (Venus). Hopefully he's an aware enough person to be able to process his internal dynamics, and understand himself. But he may have some emotional outbursts and inner fears to come to terms with (who doesn't?). And I think that your Venus creates a nice outlet and a balm for his Mars/Moon, as I've said earlier.

Here's that link:
https://starsmoonandsun.com/tag/men-with-moon-opposite-venus/

posted October 27, 2018 10:42 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
IMO, after studying both and comparing a lot of my own relationships and others etc. Composite is more accurate. It’s always accurate lol it’s crazy.
But with Davison, maybe we just don’t quite know how to read it or what to really look for yet since it’s still a grey area.
So it’s hard to say which is more accurate etc.

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Somewhere I read that in composites you only look at house placements, aspects and the relation to the natal charts.
Whereas you’d interpret the Davison just like a natal chart, and the signs are more important than the houses.

posted October 27, 2018 12:15 PM            

I don't want to explain this again, I have explained this easily like 10 times in the last few months. People need to actually start paying attention to discover what I am talking about and not have a bias for composites that is when I started to notice how straightforward the davison is. We are conditioned to just look at composite bc it has been around longer but at the very least they are both equally important and provide two versions of the same story. A lot of times when the composite is very accurate even though it does not link back to the natals is bc is acticated by transits or bc it looks nearly identical to the davison but the composite gets credit bc nobody looked at the davison.