Lindaland
  Interpersonal Astrology
  Mars conjuct Uranus (Page 2)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone!
This topic is 2 pages long:   1  2 
next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Mars conjuct Uranus
sassaqua
Knowflake

Posts: 698
From: Oz
Registered: May 2011

posted November 19, 2018 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plut0nian2 - should I leave you to guess my Mercury? It's well aspected. Can you feel the Mars aspect (I often wonder)?

Thanks for your reply. I've tried in the past to formulate this question and have stumbled to articulate. I am glad I am making sense and the topic is open.

I've found it frustrating the way the outer planets are computed because they really are so much.

For another example #1, which is again off topic (sorry op) and may be a bit far from what we are discussing here anyway, but say a particular sign has a description, say Libra, but consider, there is a generation that is conjunct Uranus. So they are quite different Librans. And they will be treated socially quite differently too. Or example #2 (this is a better example), what about when a whole generations of say, Aries, that have had to deal with Uranus opposite their Sun from their caregivers (parents), bosses and teachers. Or if Pluto is opposite.

I guess I'm underlining the significant factors that the outer planets actually DELIVER to that person via their social climate. It's not at all just an internal dynamic in the person's psyche, and this is rarely (even never) described in the cookbooks (I know, we don't use them anyhow.).

Also, the social outer planet influence lasts a life time because while the planets move, they remain in the same position in the natal charts of the people that we interact with. Eg, with Pluto and family dynamics where maybe one of them is victimised because the parents just happen to have their outer planets in hard aspect, this dynamic will not change, and will actually continue in their life. It's generational so their bosses also, and all people of that particular generation. It leaves quite an impact if you think of it. Stating the obvious I know, but, when you think of it collectively - like all of the Aries of a particular generation had to grow up with adults that had Pluto opposite their Sun to the point that their Sun will likely be crushed, it's significant. I'd go as far as to say, they are actually not an Aries anymore, because the dynamic has occurred from the formative years and molded their Aries capacity.

But, back to what we were saying, funny, this guy with his Neptune square his Moon (his ONLY aspect to his Moon) who I don't even know, yes, he tells me by text that he is "a pleaser", and loves to please. That he will "be anything you want me to be" (and sent pics of his nips, lol). I've pondered that, not only would most go for this so attracting sex would not be an issue for him, I've wondered if it's likely that he has been taken advantage of? Does he feel somewhere inside that he's been used? Is he testing me to see if I will do the same?

He also has a vulnerable boy-ish charm, and he'd be accustomed to women mothering him I think with a whole of our generation Neptune squaring his Moon. If I wanted to have something deeper with him, I would need to remain somewhat nurturing because it's what he's used to, but also, I'd need a point of difference too because he will be used to everyone being the same. Perhaps I would need to identify my Neptune response, restrain it, the result being (maybe) to stay somewhat out of reach (the opposite of what Neptune would otherwise do - ie, the urge to merge). There's more to say on this but I think the first part of this post has tired me out so I'll write again later.

I'm not talking about manipulation here so much. My point isn't to extract how to manipulate. I'm literally considering the aspects and the SOCIAL conditioning around them, and the real life experiences that are brought to a person through the aspects. I have a good opportunity to do so with this guy as we only text, so it's reasonably objective.

And then of course I've also considered how many normal people I've rejected over the years because of my Moon/Uranus conjunct square Venus

So, I guess the conclusion is that the outer planets do respond to inner (but we did know this already of course). And that they are very much not an inner dynamic alone, but they speak volumes about the person's social positioning, and how that person experiences peers, and how they are treated in society over their life span.

Tell me again how we are in control of our destinies?

IP: Logged

Brenda_S
Knowflake

Posts: 120
From:
Registered: Sep 2018

posted November 19, 2018 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@sassaqua

Sorry this part was just sticking out so had to comment.

Rejecting a person just cuz of some aspect is wrong in all ways. Astrology is a tool. You're using it as the object in itself.

Not trying to belittle you but you're missing out on a lot of opportunities by doing this. I'm on your side 😉

IP: Logged

Brenda_S
Knowflake

Posts: 120
From:
Registered: Sep 2018

posted November 19, 2018 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol probably jumped the gun too soon. You meant in your own chart probably haha. K sorry.

IP: Logged

sassaqua
Knowflake

Posts: 698
From: Oz
Registered: May 2011

posted November 19, 2018 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah yeah, you did lol.

We're talking about our love natures as defined by our planets, and what the imprint of love is in our psyches. What we are used to. I was talking about my Venus square and how anyone normal was rejected because it was too smooth.

I didn't know it at the time. My Uranus conjunct Moon is nothing to sneeze at either.

But anyway Brenda underscore capital s -
There are a heap of people I would reject because of some aspect. And there's nothing wrong at all with that!

Haven't you seen the Red Flags post?

IP: Logged

Brenda_S
Knowflake

Posts: 120
From:
Registered: Sep 2018

posted November 19, 2018 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't. I'd reject someone because something doesn't sit right with me. If they have an aspect that's not necessarily bothering me that's not considered good, I wouldn't dismiss it. Cuz to me it feels good.

There was this guy that was supposed to be considered 'smart' and I just couldn't see it in him. Dunno maybe he was smart. But since it didn't come off that way to me, that would never work for ME. So a general aspect that's not good for general society or vice versa...I wouldn't think I'd have to cut it (or not) just because of it. I mean I'm not feeling it, who cares if it's there. And the red flags thingy... Everyone will have bad traits. It's not a question of if it's there or not, but rather if I can deal with it. I may even like it.

IP: Logged

Brenda_S
Knowflake

Posts: 120
From:
Registered: Sep 2018

posted November 19, 2018 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the same concept with Venus/Mars aspects... You can't just look at this. Cuz I've encountered people that I directly do not like that have this aspect with me. And the same would be with any 'one aspect'.

IP: Logged

Melinn
Knowflake

Posts: 979
From: Sweden
Registered: Jul 2017

posted November 19, 2018 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will reply later on your respond plutonian!

Just wanted to quickly say, that I don't agree, or well, "in my experience" even when I for ex have Natal sun opposite natal pluto, I sure do feel it very well when my sun is opposite others plutos (many in my generation).

Having it in my chart, vs "Shining my Sun" on others plutos is a whole other energy, I tell you that.

So no, now when I think about it, I don't imo not believe in the "I have this natally, so I don't feel it with others". Thats noncense! (I say it with love <3)

Discerning energies are diffucult. Some energies more difficult then others, but I think it really s individiual how much and what we can discern, but its there, and we can feel all the energies at the same time.. making it harder I guess

IP: Logged

sassaqua
Knowflake

Posts: 698
From: Oz
Registered: May 2011

posted November 19, 2018 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that we have established that, yes, it is both inner and outer planets that are impacted.

But, Plutonian's point was maybe that, you wont feel the outer planet nearly AS much when you have it natally. Think Plutonian was making a point by phrasing it as "doesn't feel it". Because the contrast is quite so great between the person who has it and the one that doesn't, it's almost like that you don't feel it in comparison.

As outlined above - when a person has it natally, over the years of development the aspect has been incorporated into the psyche. And through the exposure conditioning it's become normal and doesn't stand out. It IS an outer planet though so it IS a HUGE energy.

And it's important to understand just how huge. And also the significance of what that means in real life conditioning and socialising (my points made in post above).

For the one without the aspect natally, it's a quick-hit and a fast trigger (when the inner planet of the other person hits their natal outer planet). Suddenly they are feeling their outer planet wanting to express itself. And yes, it's a foreign energy, but too it's an outer planet. Which is a huge energy that cannot be incorporated fast. And why it's so intense for the person without it natally.

And also too why it can be a difficult for the person who lives with it. Because they have to deal with all these other people that cannot manage the enery effectively, and in some way get taken away by it. And overwhelming the person with the inner planet. Like what I was saying in post above about the inner planet person with the outer planet aspect maybe experiencing abuse (Pluto) or, disconnections (Uranus) or (Deception) through social interactions.

Lol, sheesh, I just realised - they're not called the 3 big bullies for nothing

IP: Logged

Melinn
Knowflake

Posts: 979
From: Sweden
Registered: Jul 2017

posted November 20, 2018 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do a fast reply again, my post above was not directed at plutonian! I did not even know she said things about feeling/not feeling planets per say! I just wrote the above based on other replies in tve thread, just to clearify <3
Also my mind is all over the place thise days, I have hard time keeping track of what I read where and by whom etc

IP: Logged

Plut0nian2
Knowflake

Posts: 604
From:
Registered: Apr 2014

posted November 20, 2018 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melinn

It's ok, I wanted many times to reply to threads but was too overwhelmed because I had so much to say so I ended up not commenting at all which is a waste because we all learn something from others in here, it doesn't matter we aren't pros. Plus it's fun <3
It's just that English is not my mother language and many times I can't find the way to express my thoghts and feeling exactly as I want to so it may come out different which annoys me (I don't have the same problem when speaking/typing in my mother language)

I insist though about me not feeling someone's Pluto squaring my Venus, Mars and Jupiter since I have it natally.
It's not the only one aspect since same goes for my Uranus and Neptune opposing my Sun and ASC.
When you'll be ready/in the mood read my comment on the first page.


sasaqua

I asked about your Mercury because we agree too much with each other. I've seen other replies of yours in other threads I haven't even commented at all.
I agree with whatever you said (I read it all unless you are replying now that I'm typing)
The only thing I partly disagree is that one aspect can give similar personality qualities/feelings/thinking process/experiences/you name it but the way you talk about it (I know you are concentrating on that aspect since that is what the thread and the whole discusion is about, so obviously you'll talk about it like we all do but the way you are describing it) the power you give to it makes me feel like you forget how important is the rest of the chart even when it comes to that particular aspect (between a personal and generational planet).
I mean that the rest of the chart can alter this aspect even while giving many similarities to two people with the same aspect but slightly different charts.

The example I gave with a friend of mine having the exact same aspect just different Moon signs and houses... Not only we are very different personality wise in many ways (even though she has a water ASC too.. Actually her ASC is my Moon sign). We are attracted to different things and we also have different tastes (not completely but lets say she likes 70% of what I do but then she likes and another 80% of what I dislike if that makes sense). Our lifes and experiences are completely different.. Houses are so underrated..Yet you can understand 70% of me and my life just by "reading" my house placements).

I have other examples too but I think you get what I mean.

I may not feel it when others' Pluto square my Venus and Mars but that doesn't mean that I feel the same about all the people of my generation. All the ones I've been attracted to have their Sun in Scorpio and once in Aqua (squaring or opposing my Venus and Mars squaring/conjucting my Pluto loosely) So their Sun falls in my 5th (where I natally have my Pluto in Scorpio in or my 8th H which is naturally the house of Scorpio). And they all have their Pluto square my Venus and Mars. When the orb is too tight I feel that they are affected even more (being obsessed) still I don't feel any difference when it comes to me (as the Venus and Mars person).

that doesn't mean that everyone in my generation is obsessed with me but there is a tendency to attract others easily. However my friend's experience (actually both of them) even though thry have this aspect tighter in their natal chart they don't have the same response. That may very well be in my case because I havr Pluto in 5th H, or because of my Asc opposing Uranus and Neptune or all of these together plus a few other things in my natal chart.
See?

However the person with his Mars conjuct Neptune (exact) in Capricorn has said the same thing "I'm not afraid/ashamed to be what you want me to be". I find it a bit hard to understand plus dissapoining.. I want others to be themselves even if I dislike it.

We use astrologu in different ways.
When I'm attracted to some I see how reality is translated through astrology in order to gain more astrological experience. Plus I find it the best way to really understand how some astrology aspect work in reality.
Why a person gets on my nerves while doing the same thing that I find cute on another person. Why do I attract the same pattern again and again and again. The first ones I fell for or strongly attracted to were born 15,16,18 November 1989 lol. Last on is February 16, 1990 and I was YEEEES I just escaped from that mid November 1989 curse only to find out that he has a Scorpio Moon instead and the same efing Cap Venus plus Mars this time. I definately have something to learn from that double Cap Venus.

I won't change the way I approach the person I like though depending on the synastry aspects. I feel that way I am not myself and I am kind of deceiving the person. I still see how you mean it, you just don't want the person to feel like you are kind of hypnotised as the Neptune person (like the others in his generation) because it may make him sick at this point, or you may want to find the need to emotionally nurture him like he is used too because it will make you feel tired, lonely, drained and unfair after that initial need to emotionally nurture him calms down. At that point he will have become spoiled and take it for granted. And you know how it goes..

I believe that our destiny is not in our hands.. Maybe small choices but in the end it doesn't change the results. Depending on how your life is you may have already observed that when something is to happen it does no mattet what you did, you do or you will do.. I am talking about external circumstances you can not control.

If it wasn't for a person who helped me (actually he was doing readings for me past and future and horaries too ehile explaining analytically how he got to that conclusion, however he was using transits, progresions, solar return and solar arc combined) astrologically for 3 years. I don't know if I will ever find someone as good as him but he was the main reason I believed that you really can predict specific events, specific time, how someone will react to them based on his natal chart etc.

I can't believe something until it is practically proven to me.. I believed that you can understand someone by reading his natal chart (having experience with mine and the ones I fell for I'm quite experienced to some similar patterns but I am completely inexperienced to others that I'm not familiar with) after I learned the basicd I could see it work in action.. I could guess right small things depending on what someone was revealing or the way he was expressing himself or just the vibes he was giving me. I don't sense everything but when I sense something is usually spot on.

What I had extreme difficulty was beliving that through astrology you can predict actually anything. Yhat is because there are so many things to combine in order to get the results and you can't find online much about solar returns, solar arcs and even progressions.. The few things you can find are probably isolating just one aspect/placement/etc. However you can find many things about natal chart aspects/placements even a few combinations.
Plus the predictions astrologers make are so generic that they may apply to half of this world's population. Also there are times that I can predict something without using astrology or any other tool at all. I'm not talking about any of that obviously and I am not interested in generic predictions even if they are on the more specific side.

I don't care if astrology was invented by charlatans in order to get money from easily trusting people, I don't care even if it doesn't have a logic behind it (for now). I don't care how stupid it may seem to most people and I can't even begin talking about how stupid it seems to me for people who believe in God to talk "bad" about how stupid astrology is and people who believe in it especially when they haven't even try to read the basics about astrology.
Anyway I believe even the way we act is already "written" somewhere (I don't know how to say it in English). What others say free will is already "calculated" they will choose what it is "destinied" to choose.. Untill weird things happen to you and you realise that whatever you do the result will be the same because that specific something has to happen anyway no matter what.
I didn't believed this when I was younger I was more neutral like "you can control some things but you can not control some others" after what I saw these last years I feel like even the things we think we can control/change/choose we can really not even when we feel like we do. What I mean by that is not that we don't have choices over many things I feel like those choices are already pre-decided/planned.
That's another huge discussion and I have that problem again, I can not express it how I want it ans it sounds stupid.

IP: Logged

sassaqua
Knowflake

Posts: 698
From: Oz
Registered: May 2011

posted November 20, 2018 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plut0nian2 -

My mercury is in Aqua.

Astrology is very rich with the many layers. Why we like it

You got a few things wrong there:
I was primarily talking about the social conditioning that surrounds a person when it comes to outer planets.

I wasn't talking even about the aspect of this post (Mars conjuct Uranus).

I definitely never isolate an aspect without the rest of the chart because everything makes a big difference - even a few degrees can.

But never mind

You have trouble expressing your thoughts? You are not alone. I think everyone does from time to time around here. It takes practice. Especially when astrology is mult-layered, and rich in very many domains.

IP: Logged

Plut0nian2
Knowflake

Posts: 604
From:
Registered: Apr 2014

posted November 20, 2018 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sassaqua:
Plut0nian2 -

My mercury is in Aqua.

Astrology is very rich with the many layers. Why we like it

You got a few things wrong there:
I was primarily talking about the social conditioning that surrounds a person when it comes to outer planets.

I wasn't talking even about the aspect of this post (Mars conjuct Uranus).

I definitely never isolate an aspect without the rest of the chart because everything makes a big difference - even a few degrees can.

But never mind

You have trouble expressing your thoughts? You are not alone. I think everyone does from time to time around here. It takes practice. Especially when astrology is mult-layered, and rich in very many domains.


I have trouble expressing my thoughts in English because ot isn't my mother language. I do understand almost anything I read but it's different when I have to express myself words and phrases won't come easily.

Scorpio and Aqua Mercuries are my favorite ones by far.
I kind of see why late degrees Scorpio Mercuru are my favs sinve I have Mercury in Cancer (26) but I don't understand why I like and communicate that well with Mercury in Aqua maybe because it's in my 8th H?

What degrees, aspects and house is it in?

IP: Logged

Plut0nian2
Knowflake

Posts: 604
From:
Registered: Apr 2014

posted November 21, 2018 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

••••••• anonymidarkness ••••••••

I hope you'll see this and reply

Whoever has experienced this aspect please share no matter how out of topic the discussion has gone

IP: Logged

StoneMoon
Knowflake

Posts: 246
From:
Registered: Apr 2018

posted November 22, 2018 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I have trouble expressing my thoughts in English because ot isn't my mother language. I do understand almost anything I read but it's different when I have to express myself words and phrases won't come easily.

Scorpio and Aqua Mercuries are my favorite ones by far.
I kind of see why late degrees Scorpio Mercuru are my favs sinve I have Mercury in Cancer (26) but I don't understand why I like and communicate that well with Mercury in Aqua maybe because it's in my 8th H?

What degrees, aspects and house is it in?


Plutonian! Check duads- your Mercury is about the same as my Sun and that's the Taurus duad, right at 22ish degrees. This would explain your attraction to the Aqua and Scorpio Mercuries!

IP: Logged

Plut0nian2
Knowflake

Posts: 604
From:
Registered: Apr 2014

posted November 22, 2018 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Plutonian! Check duads- your Mercury is about the same as my Sun and that's the Taurus duad, right at 22ish degrees. This would explain your attraction to the Aqua and Scorpio Mercuries!

Interesting, I didn't know about duads I just checked it out. And yes it Taurus duad if I got it right (similar to decans).
But I'm wondering because I don't particularly like Leo and Taurus Mercury not that I have a problem with them (well I dislike Leo actually have many bad experiences) just not anything special/interesting.
I'm feeling it's because of my 8th H in Aqua there is deep understanding. At first I thought it was my Leo Venus, Mars and Jupiter but if it was for that I would also like Leo and Taurus Mercuries?

IP: Logged

anonymidarkness
Knowflake

Posts: 6558
From:
Registered: Aug 2012

posted November 23, 2018 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
WoooW!!! What a fiery response!!
you're indeed on fire!! I loved it
Can you tell me the orbs of the synastry aspect? Plus do you have it natally? If yes how tight it is?

How did you irritate the Uranus person?
How long did it last?


2 degrees, the orb. Nah, don't have it natally, that's why I prolly felt like I was in a whole new world around her, if people who have it natally feel that way all the time then damn sons you all are blessed!!
She has it natally, a trine, 8 degree if I remember correctly, a wide one, yes.

How did I irritate? let's say I like pushing people's buttons at times, see how they react
How long it last ? For everrrr...lets say the last time I irritated in a totally bad time, she broke up...tsk tsk.

We had other stuffs tho to support it, Her Sun/Venus/Mars on my Moon, her Moon conjunct my Pluto/NN, squaring my Mars, my Pluto/NN got caught up in her T-square and let's say I enjoyed the ride very much.

IP: Logged

ana_bee
Knowflake

Posts: 263
From:
Registered: Aug 2013

posted November 23, 2018 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I repost this question from a different thread because it really interests me, and there hasn’t been an answer yet:

What happens when both have an aspect nataly, and this repeats in synastry and in composite? Let’s say Venus square Saturn or some other outer planet?

Is it a bigger issue then, or less so, because both people are already familiar with this?

IP: Logged

Plut0nian2
Knowflake

Posts: 604
From:
Registered: Apr 2014

posted November 23, 2018 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
2 degrees, the orb. Nah, don't have it natally, that's why I prolly felt like I was in a whole new world around her, if people who have it natally feel that way all the time then damn sons you all are blessed!!
She has it natally, a trine, 8 degree if I remember correctly, a wide one, yes.

How did I irritate? let's say I like pushing people's buttons at times, see how they react
How long it last ? For everrrr...lets say the last time I irritated in a totally bad time, she broke up...tsk tsk.

We had other stuffs tho to support it, Her Sun/Venus/Mars on my Moon, her Moon conjunct my Pluto/NN, squaring my Mars, my Pluto/NN got caught up in her T-square and let's say I enjoyed the ride very much.


Thank you
We have many similarities in our synastry
Pluto conjuct Moon
Pluto square Mars and Venus
Jupiter Mars and Venus square Moon
His Venus Saturn conjuct my NN in my 7th H
And Uranus conjuct Mars is exact (me being the Uranus)
I can feel your enthusiasm even fron the way you're writing hehe.
As someone who has a few aspects between personal and generational planets I can tell you that I don't fe it however it's very obvious that others feel it (well of course not all and it depends on what other planets are activating the aspect or other asorcts/placements).

IP: Logged

Plut0nian2
Knowflake

Posts: 604
From:
Registered: Apr 2014

posted November 23, 2018 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ana_bee:
I repost this question from a different thread because it really interests me, and there hasn’t been an answer yet:

[b]What happens when both have an aspect nataly, and this repeats in synastry and in composite? Let’s say Venus square Saturn or some other outer planet?

Is it a bigger issue then, or less so, because both people are already familiar with this?[/B]


Hey! I'm not sure if I'll help you since I mentioned what I'm going to say in the previous comments of this thread which you may have already read.
In my case I don't feel the aspect when I have it natally it's the others that do feel it unless someone "activates" it with some of his personal planets.
I have natally Pluto square Mars, Venus and Jupiter and I have Sun and ASC opposite Uranus and Neptune. So whenever someone's Pluto squares my Venus and Mars and Jupiter I feel nothing. But when someone's Sun or Moon opposes/squares my Venus, Mars and Jupiter I definately feel it and it affects Pluto too (depending on the degrees)

Also since we are talking about it when someone has hard aspects like I have the Pluto squares I mentioned I want hard aspects from another's personal planets in order to feel it, it makes feel that sparkle soft aspects don't do it for me.
Whennit comes to my Moon though things are different.
My Moonnis in Pisces and receves just a trine from Sun.. I dislike it when someone's planet makes a negative aspect to my Moon and I also want a water Moon (a Scorpio one to be precise haha)
I've observed that most people (i've known)
have the same thing going on. When you natally have hard aspects you want that in synastry too and same goes for the soft ones.

So to your initial question I don't feel the synastry asoecta I have natally at least when it comes to generational planets.


IP: Logged

ana_bee
Knowflake

Posts: 263
From:
Registered: Aug 2013

posted November 24, 2018 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@plutonian

Hi, thanks for your observation. I totally get what you’re indicating, about being used to the hardness of a certain aspect.. so anything less won’t do. I can especially fel how that would make sense with a planet like Pluto. Pluto energy in general is quite addictive and obsessive. So when dealing with a Pluto square that one is already used to, it reinforces that notion of obsession, intensity, pain.. that these natives would certainly enjoy.

It’s just really hard for me to understand how hard Saturn energy would feel enticing for anyone. If I imagine a couple havin the Venus/Saturn square nataly, then in synastry and also in composite without other positive aspects relieving that Venus.. I doubt that “love” could blossom, under such circumstances. To me it seems really cold and restrained and depressing.

But I’m also more a Pluto person than a Saturn person.. so maybe someone experiences hard energy from Saturn differently and actually enjoys it ???

IP: Logged

Plut0nian2
Knowflake

Posts: 604
From:
Registered: Apr 2014

posted November 24, 2018 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ana_bee:
@plutonian

Hi, thanks for your observation. I totally get what you’re indicating, about being used to the hardness of a certain aspect.. so anything less won’t do. I can especially fel how that would make sense with a planet like Pluto. Pluto energy in general is quite addictive and obsessive. So when dealing with a Pluto square that one is already used to, it reinforces that notion of obsession, intensity, pain.. that these natives would certainly enjoy.

It’s just really hard for me to understand how hard Saturn energy would feel enticing for anyone. If I imagine a couple havin the Venus/Saturn square nataly, then in synastry and also in composite without other positive aspects relieving that Venus.. I doubt that “love” could blossom, under such circumstances. To me it seems really cold and restrained and depressing.

But I’m also more a Pluto person than a Saturn person.. so maybe someone experiences hard energy from Saturn differently and actually enjoys it ???


Hmmm
In my case Pluto is not the pain I enjoy because I feel pain just by being in love with someone nyway even though I always was attracted to men who are attracted to me. It's just the intensity.

Yeah I see what you're saying there with Saturn, since I have experienced all the other generational planets (Pluto, Uranus and Neptune) except of Saturn which is aspectless in my chart I think that it can go both ways too. The person is used to that Saturnian energy. If other planets help to soften it it may be better.
However you can not find a better person than me when it comes to the aspect you mention..
You might have seen it in other replies of mine but I never fell for someone who doesn't have Venus in Capricorn conjuct their Saturn less than 2 orbs.
I have Cap DSC with Uranus, Neptune and NN in it. Anyway I see that even though my Venus and Mars (Leo) are in inconjuction with their Venus in Cap, my Sun and/or ASC (depending on their Venus degree) are in opposition with their Venus-Saturn conjuction, which means that my Sun activates their Venus with a hard aspect just like their Sun does to my Pluto Venus and Mars square. So it feels like it is working in a similar way for them (meaning another planet activating their natal aspect).
Also my Neptune and Uranus is conjuct Their Venus and Saturn which definately softens it.
However I'm not sure how strong and accurate this observation is because I know that their Venus and Saturn in my 7th H or conjuct my DSC is strong enough by itself.

I know that these people are slooow to show love that's why they seem cold. Someone similar to them may make them feel safe and not rushed/overwelmed, in synastry it may seem kind of natural for them (the Saturnian coldness the restriction etc) however I think it's best when something softens it like Neptune. Almost all the time though those men I liked had Neptune in conjuction with their Venus and Saturn but it was not as tight as Venus-Saturn. So it was already softened.
My Saturn is in Aqua and it always makes just one hard aspect with one of their planets so yes I don't offer them much Saturn energy synastry wise plus I'm not Saturnian myself.
I don't know if Cap DSC is that strong to make me look Saturnian to them (especially with my Uranus and Neptune conjucting the DSC) but considering my cases they don't need Saturn aspects in synastry nor a Saturnian person to fall in love.
Saturn is the planet that will try to make it work if he wants (often even if he doesn't want) because that's his nature slow and steady trying hard and oractical.

I think the Moon is a good thing in this case. If the Venus-Saturn has a watery Moon they definately need a person to warm their Venus-Saturn. Don't get me wrong the Moon is always important I just think in this case that Venus is restricted by Saturn a watery Moon suffers the most because of intense emotions not being able to express them (Venus-Saturn) and often seeming cold which may be very far away from the truth.
But an Aqua ir Capricorn Moon or any "cold" Moon may actually be indeed cold and logical or seeing their partner as money/status.

The ones I've fallen for have water Moon and one of them Leo Moon so they weren't like that, just seeming cold and being slow which to me is a blessing since I'm even slower (Saturn on 8th H cusp).
Moon is generally very important and ehen you touch someones Moon you touch their heart, Venua ia more logical and practical a bit more superficial but Moon is our emotional core plus it's where you really see if you are a good match eith rach other when it comes to living in the same house.
I think people with Venus-Saturn can work for whatever their Moon wants even if Venus is not pleased. I mean that their Venus is one of the Venus that is used to strugle and fight steadily and practically. I feel that it's a Venus who can work with hard aspects it receives if the rest of the synastry is good (depending on the native's natal chart because as we said good synastry aspects may be hard synastry aspects if someone has hard natal aspects). A Venus with Pluto/Uranus/Neptune is way harder to be pleased not because they are more picky but because they can not compromise because of their nature unlike Saturn.

IP: Logged


This topic is 2 pages long:   1  2 

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright 2000-2018

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a