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Orange
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posted January 13, 2019 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it a tight conjunction

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posted January 13, 2019 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Draconic moon on natal Nodes is pretty significant!

What does it mean? I thought contacts to SN is not positive like the SN person feels held back? How do I interpret Moon conjunct MC? Both aspects about 3°.


EDIT: Oh, I just read on another thread that Draconic Moon learns from SN...

Also an old post from Ceridwen:
"Draco Venus conjunct natal NN is unbelievably signficant, as the Draco charts are nodal charts pers se. Follow your path, and you will touch the others Venus on a very deep level. While trpical Venus is all about attraction and thses things, the Draco Venus, while also indicative of this, adds a level of "meaningfulness" to it. A feeling of like meant-to-be-love."

-- And my Draconic Venus is conjunct his NN (1°). 💘

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posted January 13, 2019 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoveAstrally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Synastry aside, how do you know you have found yours? Pls list some tell-tale signs.


Energetically we are very equal. I feel as though when we are around each other, our energy is magnified (and others have told me this). One of the biggest reasons why I believe this is because our energy can be CRAZY intense at times and causes us to be physically uncomfortable. I can also say that this happens when our Masc&Fem energies are not in sync individually. When our interactions are 100% unconditional and balanced we can stand being around each other much longer and there are no uneasy feelings. I only realized this once I started meditating 1-2 hours daily/habitually.... We've never been physically intimate with one another but the day we do I bet it would be some crazy cool kundalini sht.

On occasion I can feel when he's thinking of me.. I get a weird bodily sensation in 4th chakra. There have been some pretty crazy synchronicities between us but specifically with our individual hobbies & career paths as far as subject matter and timing. When we "catch up" we've both noted that it was interesting we started doing the same stuff at the same time.

I've noticed when one has their heart chakra open, their TF counterpart is drawn to them like a moth to flame (on either mental or physical plane). Because that's what the counterpart needs.

I should look into the Draconic chart and probably will when I get time.

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posted January 13, 2019 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoveAstrally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
yes, Hikaru
Draconic - natal as well as Draconic -Draconic is very active in the synastry of twinflames. Especially Draconic-Natal, because Draconic is the soul and needs to be anchored into the partner's natal, and vise versa. Look for Draconic Sun-Moon -Saturn being on partner's angles and natal Nodes


That would basically switch my Jupiter/AC/chiron to be conjunct his NN and Juno... I can see that making complete sense.

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posted January 13, 2019 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also check Draconuc Composite in relation to the regular Composite. Does anything from the dravomic shifts over anything in the regular Composite.

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posted January 13, 2019 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ˆHow do you generate a Draconic composite?

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posted January 13, 2019 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morrigan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
If it is real, it’s so incredibly rare nobody should even be worrying about it. And it doesn’t matter if it does or not. There’s nothing inherently special or unique about a “twin flame”, love is love at the end of the day. And real genuine love is extremely rare in itself. Most of what people confuse love with is a plutonic type obsession and that’s what’s being labelled “twinflame”. Intensity of feelings doesn’t mean love. I repeat, intensity of feelings doesn’t equate to love.

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
[B]There is no debating that some people are better suited for us, absolutely, and we do have other souls we are connected to on a soul level and meant to meet, but again, we don’t have a perfect ideal other half that is the yin to our yang or vice versa. Because we are already whole on our own. And we are all masculine and feminine. You will live lifetimes as both genders throughout your evolution here on earth.

I agree with your entire post. These bits, especially, bear repeating. Thank you so much for an honest and level-headed take on the subject.

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posted January 13, 2019 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morrigan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
the poor people who are buying into it wasting their time chasing a fantasy when they could be manifesting or finding real genuine healthy love instead.

Yes, exactly.

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posted January 13, 2019 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morrigan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
And I say trying, because what you guys are describing is just what happens in a soulmate relationship and real love in general lol. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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[B]But listen, you guys can believe what you want at the end of the day obviously. But you should ask yourselves why this concept of twinflame is so important or appealing to you, why you’re searching for and reject the possibility of it not being real. Why isn’t genuine love enough? What do you think is so great or special about this twin flame concept.

Yes, and is "being special" the real draw?

Sorry, I'm pretty much quoting all that you said, you just happen to voice my opinions so clearly.

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posted January 13, 2019 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morrigan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
ˆHow do you generate a Draconic composite?

You select "composite" in the chart drop-down as usual, then select the "Draconic" radio button under "Options for zodiac and houses".
^ If you're using astro.com

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posted January 13, 2019 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those who object to the idea of twinflames, can you please create another thread and drop it there. This is a thread for twinflames research and it is incredibly rude to attack those who believe in it by labeling them as poor souls, delusioned, and what not. It's okay not to believe just be respectful of those who do. Leave this thread and on to your own. Nobody is asking you if you believe or not here in this thread.

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posted January 13, 2019 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morrigan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright, don't worry I won't post any more opinions.

P.S. You're right, that was outta line - my bad.

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posted January 14, 2019 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Also check Draconuc Composite in relation to the regular Composite. Does anything from the dravomic shifts over anything in the regular Composite.

Ours have no major difference... just that Draconic Psyche is now opposing the Sun-Mercury-Venus stellium instead of conjunct, but that's still interpreted the same, right?

In fact, it's the same with our Draconic synastries - only the signs changed but house placements and aspects mostly remain.

Btw, can you advise if the 3° orb from dr Moon to n.SN is counted? My dr Venus is on the opposite side with his n.NN.

Also, is Draconic-Natal more significant or Draconic-Draconic?

Btw, I'm still waiting to hear more on TFs....

Thanks, Morrigan.

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posted January 15, 2019 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange, thank you for stepping in and facilitating the clearance.

Twin flames are as real as the air we breath and I hope that with more and more people waking up from the Matrix and working out their own issues/ancestral karma, more and more will be able to experience this spiritual soul union. When that happens and it becomes a more frequently happening phenomenon, I am sure more people will talk about their own experiences and make it a more acceptable and commonly discussed mainstream subject. Our planet needs more of TF unions because it's in desperate need of healing.

There are those who believe in what they don't see but then they don't believe in God, who they can't see either...something to think about.

Every twin who has come into the union with their counterpart, has experienced a very kin telepathy as well as a merging and becoming one on all levels. The emotional, mental and spiritual bodies merge in 5D, and the feeling of a divine connection to the source is always present. Two bodies meet in 3D but it is beyond this reality. There are no judgments, no expectations, no conditioning of any kind that stands between them. There is ever present kindness, forgiveness, acceptance, empathy, healing and the most beautiful feelings of understanding of each other's soul that support this union. That energy and the bond never fade away even when "life happens" and the human ego creeps in and tries to derail it back to the 3D "reality."

I am curious what aspects would support that. As it was previously mentioned here - Neptune. But what would you think the aspect needs to be for this type of merging. Neptune conjunct Mercury or Moon?

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posted January 15, 2019 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Ours have no major difference... just that Draconic Psyche is now opposing the Sun-Mercury-Venus stellium instead of conjunct, but that's still interpreted the same, right?

In fact, it's the same with our Draconic synastries - only the signs changed but house placements and aspects mostly remain.

Btw, can you advise if the 3° orb from dr Moon to n.SN is counted? My dr Venus is on the opposite side with his n.NN.

Also, is Draconic-Natal more significant or Draconic-Draconic?

Btw, I'm still waiting to hear more on TFs....


Hikaru, from what I have read , Draconic to Natal is more important because it shows the soul being anchored into the natal. Without legit Draconic to natal conjunctions/oppositions in the synastry, the draconic to draconic will not bring anything substantial on its own.

yes, the orb of 3 degree is tight enough to consider. Id consider it up to 4 degree, but the narrower the better of course. 3' orb is feelable, yes.

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posted January 16, 2019 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Hikaru, from what I have read , Draconic to Natal is more important because it shows the soul being anchored into the natal. Without legit Draconic to natal conjunctions/oppositions in the synastry, the draconic to draconic will not bring anything substantial on its own.

yes, the orb of 3 degree is tight enough to consider. Id consider it up to 4 degree, but the narrower the better of course. 3' orb is feelable, yes.


Yes, so I've read as well - that draconic-natal is more important.

Qn is who feels it - the natal person or the draconic person? So for my case where my dr Moon conjunct his n.SN and my dr Venus conjunct his n.NN, does it mean I feel him at a soul level? What about him?

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posted January 16, 2019 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe there would be a heavy emphasis on aspects with Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Saturn, because of the work you have to do after meeting your twin flame. Uranus, because meeting your twin flame shakes up what you know about love up to that point and challenges your pre-existing expectations and beliefs. Neptune, because of the initial "fairy tale" feeling before the work begins and the shattering of the "dream" later on. Pluto, because of the intensity and exposure to the issues you need to deal with. These planets would likely hit personal planets for both twins and indicate the work that may need to be done.

Unfortunately, this is just what I imagine would be the case. I'm not sure if there are any clear patterns that show up for each twin. I've heard that each pair of twins are different and have their own unique journey with each other and I believe this, but it could mean that the astrological indicators for each twin also differ.

My twin flame is currently not incarnated on Earth alongside me, which means he isn't on the planet at this time. However, if he was on Earth, his astrology chart would be making aspects to all my personal planets in the ways I mentioned.

On the other hand, in my personal opinion, humanity's knowledge about twin flames is quite limited. While I can't exactly be certain this is true, it is extremely rare and I'm confident this makes it difficult to study the astrology behind the connection.

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posted January 17, 2019 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoveAstrally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lerena:
I believe there would be a heavy emphasis on aspects with Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Saturn, because of the work you have to do after meeting your twin flame. Uranus, because meeting your twin flame shakes up what you know about love up to that point and challenges your pre-existing expectations and beliefs. Neptune, because of the initial "fairy tale" feeling before the work begins and the shattering of the "dream" later on. Pluto, because of the intensity and exposure to the issues you need to deal with. These planets would likely hit personal planets for both twins and indicate the work that may need to be done.

Unfortunately, this is just what I imagine would be the case. I'm not sure if there are any clear patterns that show up for each twin. I've heard that each pair of twins are different and have their own unique journey with each other and I believe this, but it could mean that the astrological indicators for each twin also differ.

My twin flame is currently not incarnated on Earth alongside me, which means he isn't on the planet at this time. However, if he was on Earth, his astrology chart would be making aspects to all my personal planets in the ways I mentioned.

On the other hand, in my personal opinion, humanity's knowledge about twin flames is quite limited. While I can't exactly be certain this is true, it is extremely rare and I'm confident this makes it difficult to study the astrology behind the connection.


Well said. I agree. When there's a connection from outer planets to inner planets or luminaries, that can be an indicator for your TF. I have Saturn conjunct NN with mine. The variety of souls (-spice, if you will) makes studying specific twin flame astrological aspects difficult. For instance, the healer-type and the warrior-type have different major planet influences in their charts. Additionally, I believe there have to be a significant amount of tight karmic/soul-related aspects. More than the ordinary person.

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posted January 17, 2019 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always enjoy Larena's posts. Very wise for her age and well written

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posted January 17, 2019 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So the hypothesis is TFs will have lots of aspects between outer planets and inner planets/angles in Synastry? Supposedly as many DWs possible as well?

The qn is: how much is needed for the relationship to feel "soulmate-ish"?


LoveAstrally,
Do you know anything about Saturn square Nodes? I read that it's a karmic connection but a tough one, so I wonder how this will play out. Considering it's Saturn, I believe it will be long-drawn...

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posted January 17, 2019 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to make sure I understand this correctly, it's only Draconic to Natal that one would look at when identifying potential twin flames?

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posted January 18, 2019 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CuriousV:
Just to make sure I understand this correctly, it's only Draconic to Natal that one would look at when identifying potential twin flames?

Natal synastry is the main here. Draconic-Natal is something I threw out as one possible indication. I personally find my Draconic very telling of the type I've been attracting.

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posted January 18, 2019 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is a good thread with compilation of aspects when we discussed it extensively a few years ago:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000019.html

and here
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/224895.html

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posted January 18, 2019 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
here is a good thread with compilation of aspects when we discussed it extensively a few years ago:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000019.html

and here
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/224895.html


Thanks, Orange!

That's a very long list. I'm still reading through...

How many are we supposed to fulfil?

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posted January 18, 2019 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My eyes are seeing stars now...... I think I just saw my twin flame... in the sky...


EDIT: I was reading the basic compatibility thread by DD. Why are planets in sextile not considered compatible?? Shouldn't it be included?

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