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CuriousV
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posted January 11, 2019 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are some obvious TF aspects in synastry? I've been reading/watching so many posts/videos on TF journey and with all this rapid Ascension process happening on Earth at the moment, it got me thinking - is there anything that can be spotted in charts that can unmistakably point to a TF Union.

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posted January 12, 2019 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to know this too. Both the twin flame and soulmate concepts are very ethereal to me.

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posted January 12, 2019 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is something I'm working on but the answer is coming up as a yes!

I'm noticing that obviously you expect a lot of strong activity between the charts per se. Pluto and Neptune seem to both feature strongly.

I'm also noticing that Vesta and Juno as a combination are showing up very importantly. Think about it, Vesta is the keeper of the flame!! The parallel is literally fire!! ♥

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posted January 12, 2019 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:

I'm noticing that obviously you expect a lot of strong activity between the charts per se. Pluto and Neptune seem to both feature strongly.


How "strongly" for Pluto/Neptune?

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posted January 12, 2019 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“Twinflames” aren’t real. We just have soulmates. People we connect with on a deep, spiritual level. People we’ve known in past lives, or that we are divinely meant to meet and learn/grow from in our lifetime. Sometime it’s to experience a healthy happy love together, and sometimes it’s to learn tough painful lessons like what we call “karmic” soulmates, but this romantic fantasy of our one true love/other half just isn’t reality. That doesn’t exist. There’s no such thing. There are many people we will cross paths with in our life that we could and will love. Some are better suited for us, more compatibility than others and that’s the difference if the love lasts or not.
But people need to stop buying into this ridiculous twin flame concept lol. Doesn’t matter what someone is to you, the only question you should ask yourself is “are you gonna treat me right and give me what I want/need” period. This whole toxic runner/chaser narrative connected to “twinflames” is so sad and deluding people into staying or holding onto someone they shouldn’t just because they’re convinced it’s their “twin flame” as if that justifies or makes it ok.
Find someone who treats you with respect, who appreciates you and makes you happy and vice versa. That’s truelove and that’s achievable. And that’s way more important than chasing a fantasy or a label.

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posted January 12, 2019 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@LunaIscariot - totally agree. Well said.

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posted January 12, 2019 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
“Twinflames” aren’t real. We just have soulmates. People we connect with on a deep, spiritual level. People we’ve known in past lives, or that we are divinely meant to meet and learn/grow from in our lifetime. Sometime it’s to experience a healthy happy love together, and sometimes it’s to learn tough painful lessons like what we call “karmic” soulmates, but this romantic fantasy of our one true love/other half just isn’t reality. That doesn’t exist. There’s no such thing. There are many people we will cross paths with in our life that we could and will love. Some are better suited for us, more compatibility than others and that’s the difference if the love lasts or not.
But people need to stop buying into this ridiculous twin flame concept lol. Doesn’t matter what someone is to you, the only question you should ask yourself is “are you gonna treat me right and give me what I want/need” period. This whole toxic runner/chaser narrative connected to “twinflames” is so sad and deluding people into staying or holding onto someone they shouldn’t just because they’re convinced it’s their “twin flame” as if that justifies or makes it ok.
Find someone who treats you with respect, who appreciates you and makes you happy and vice versa. That’s truelove and that’s achievable. And that’s way more important than chasing a fantasy or a label.

Well, I think it's fair to say, that no one really knows. Just because you have never experienced a TF encounter, doesn't make it invalid. Those people who have, will tell you otherwise and it's not because they want it to be their one true love partner. Btw, TF is not always a love interest, it could be on a friend level too. But one thing is for sure that the experience and the connection is like no other and you have never felt and will never feel that way with any other person. Until you experience it, which is unlikely, because it's not a common thing even with such rapid awakening happening in the last decade, you can't just say it does not exist. There is a huge difference between a karmic connection and a TF connection and yes, I agree with you that a lot of people make it into a TF connection when in reality it's nothing more that just a toxic karmic one, because they so want to think/feel they are special.

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posted January 12, 2019 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that the runner/chaser fabrication is incredibly unhealthy. I'm trying to re-write it but it's embedded deeply and many are using the idea of 'twin flames' to excuse terribly unhealthy situations.

Twin flames do exist, but a great proportion of what you come across online is not accurate.

Hikaru - it varies. I expect to see Pluto and Neptune playing a part but it's not like you can say, "Moon opposite Neptune" = twin flames. There are certain areas I expect to see emphasised and there will be some mirroring also. I'm getting there but I can't explain very well yet, and as you know astrology is never cut and dried ;-) That's why this Venus square Uranus on the angles will never be bored of it ;-)

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posted January 12, 2019 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
This is something I'm working on but the answer is coming up as a yes!

I'm noticing that obviously you expect a lot of strong activity between the charts per se. Pluto and Neptune seem to both feature strongly.

I'm also noticing that Vesta and Juno as a combination are showing up very importantly. Think about it, Vesta is the keeper of the flame!! The parallel is literally fire!! ♥


Are there any particular aspects for Pluto, Neptune, Juno and Vesta that you feel are significant?

And what about Vertex? Or ASC/DSC contacts?

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posted January 12, 2019 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
I agree that the runner/chaser fabrication is incredibly unhealthy. I'm trying to re-write it but it's embedded deeply and many are using the idea of 'twin flames' to excuse terribly unhealthy situations.

Twin flames do exist, but a great proportion of what you come across online is not accurate.

Hikaru - it varies. I expect to see Pluto and Neptune playing a part but it's not like you can say, "Moon opposite Neptune" = twin flames. There are certain areas I expect to see emphasised and there will be some mirroring also.


Thank you for mentioning this, Waxlobster....Since mirroring is a main theme in a TF union, I was wondering if that would mean that certain planets/planetary aspects would show as a mirrored effect in a synastry as well...like a ASC/DSC conjunction or opposite Suns?

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posted January 12, 2019 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it is real, it’s so incredibly rare nobody should even be worrying about it. And it doesn’t matter if it does or not. There’s nothing inherently special or unique about a “twin flame”, love is love at the end of the day. And real genuine love is extremely rare in itself. Most of what people confuse love with is a plutonic type obsession and that’s what’s being labelled “twinflame”. Intensity of feelings doesn’t mean love. I repeat, intensity of feelings doesn’t equate to love.
Love is based on mutual trust, respect, care, is selfless and is based on wanting the best for that person and them to be happy. Not about feeling some crazy sexual attraction or feelings of obsession/compulsion and intensity. And this is what people are talking about when they speak of this type of connection that you hear about. This could happen in love as well of course, but the basis/root will always be the other things I mentioned first.
And a lot of people think a soulmate is their twin flame just because the connection is deeper than anything they’ve experienced before, meaning with people that weren’t their soulmates. And they confuse this with “twinflame” , it must be because I’ve never felt this before. They want a label, something that explains these intense feelings they’ve never felt before.
I’m a psychic intuitive/medium myself. So I have some wisdom, higher wisdom behind me, plus a lot of experience with these concepts and working with clients etc. Not to mention my own experiences.
People with strong Pluto or Neptune signatures with their Venus, 5th or 7th houses are going to be prone to these romantic delusions and buy into them.
One thing I’ll say just for arguments sake though, is that only older/more mature souls who have lived quite a few lifetimes and also have a higher consciousness/awareness and evolution would be the ones to meet their “twinflame”. And it would be one of their last if not their last lifetime here on earth that this would happen just because of the nature of how our souls operate here on earth and our purpose, it’s the only thing that would make sense with this concept.
But my guides and ancestors tell me that this is non-sense and just something we’ve created to fuel our romantic fantasies and they’ve never lied to me yet.
There is no debating that some people are better suited for us, absolutely, and we do have other souls we are connected to on a soul level and meant to meet, but again, we don’t have a perfect ideal other half that is the yin to our yang or vice versa. Because we are already whole on our own. And we are all masculine and feminine. You will live lifetimes as both genders throughout your evolution here on earth.

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posted January 12, 2019 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have different paths Lunalscariot and yes I believe twin flames are rare and for last life unification also.

It's still important to talk about something that is in the mainstream in a very misleading way at the moment. I feel that this subject irks you personally somehow. Your post seems a little....annoyed? Anyway none of my business...

I don't have a strong Neptune per se personally. In fact my Moon-Saturn is very realistic, but hey I believe in it because, I always have. I feel it, it's part of my path. I grew up around profound love ♥

Hi CuriousV, certainly there is evidence that angular connections show up often in very successful marriages. I've never thought the Asc to be about the 'soul' but the IC is and seeing contacts here makes sense. Thing is the IC is about birth, death and ancestors too though, so perhaps the MC and the 'shared mission' fits the twin flame remit more.

I've noticed Vesta to Vesta and Juno to Juno contacts feature (it is hard to find case studies as everybody wants to have met their twin flame, few actually *have*!)

I don't hold much to the vertex, never have haha. I don't see it as connected to love, just inevitability. There's nothing romantic about it.

I've seen a lot of Pluto & Neptune to Sun & Moon interestingly. Not Pluto to Mars, not to say it couldn't happen but that's quite 3D. Pluto to Venus can figure but that comes up a LOT in karmic soulmate relationships.

I like to see Juno to the personal planets too. I really want to get a good load of case studies to further my instincts into greater clarity!! :-)

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posted January 12, 2019 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Annoyed? No lol, I have no reason to be annoyed with you or with this topic personally per say. I’m just a rather blunt/honest person in general. But I guess the only way I would be annoyed, idk if that’s the right word though, I guess more just discouraged/sad with how much false information there is out there and the poor people who are buying into it wasting their time chasing a fantasy when they could be manifesting or finding real genuine healthy love instead. That’s my whole goal in writing these posts, is that it hopefully resonates with someone and helps. So if it seems that I was annoyed, I’m sorry I didn’t mean to offend you. I just don’t have the energy to mince words or tip toe around things. I just say what I mean and what what I say. I have mercury in my 9th house so I have a sag type communication style: blunt lol.

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posted January 12, 2019 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Intensity of feelings doesn’t mean love. I repeat, intensity of feelings doesn’t equate to love.
Love is based on mutual trust, respect, care, is selfless and is based on wanting the best for that person and them to be happy. Not about feeling some crazy sexual attraction or feelings of obsession/compulsion and intensity. And this is what people are talking about when they speak of this type of connection that you hear about. This could happen in love as well of course, but the basis/root will always be the other things I mentioned first.
And a lot of people think a soulmate is their twin flame just because the connection is deeper than anything they’ve experienced before, meaning with people that weren’t their soulmates. And they confuse this with “twinflame” , it must be because I’ve never felt this before. They want a label, something that explains these intense feelings they’ve never felt before.

Interesting observation by Waxlobster...I almost wanted to say that it rather came across as being annoyed/rubbed the wrong way about this topic...but since you say you weren't, I guess it's just the way you come across on paper, lol...I understand being blunt by the way, my Merc is also in the 9th house.

Anyways, what you wrote above is incorrect, at least that's not what people who have met their TF and either in the union or in separation feel. Yes, the intensity is there, but it's not on this crazy sexual/obsessive compulsive level as you are describing. I think you may be feeling so "defensive" about this subject for a lack of a better word, is because you have probably seen and are tired of hearing about people who have this crazy obsessive/toxic dynamic or are dealing with a narc/empath type of scenario in their relationships and it's a never ending pattern and they come on here (possibly turn to you for readings?), or go to mediums believing that they are with their TF. We all know that those people are just delusional and instead of doing a deep introspection about where their own wounds are coming from, they try to look for answers somewhere else. We as humans don't like to look and acknowledge our own shortcomings for the most part and becoming healthy and spiritually awaken requires a lot of internal work.

Back to the TF topic. The feeling/connection is the opposite of what you described above. If anything, you want nothing but the best for your twin and all of those things that you attribute to real love - respect, care, trust will be the ultimate products of this process at the end of the union if the two do the work required of them. Twins harbor no ill feelings towards each other or obsessively thinking about them and waiting to be only with them. Yes, there is definitely a period of that longing, but again if you have strong feelings for someone, that's a given, call it missing the other. But twins don't come into union because the feeling is so intense and it's like nothing they experienced with anyone else...no that's an aftermath, after you look back and realize that it was a purely magical, unconditional love. And that's a key distinction here is that the purpose of two people coming into this union is to let you see and feel what this unconditional love really is, something we all talk about, wish, hope, see in movies, read in love novels and hear in songs.

The point of TF journey is that it's about you and it's always been about you and the only way to experience the unconditional love that everyone seems to be looking towards the other person for is to experience it through self love. Most people don't love themselves. Twins will let you see that you do not love yourself and that's the beginning of the awakening. If that doesn't happen and the person continues to ride this toxic cycle of runner/chaser, that's not it. It's just your typical karmic soulmate. But if you are lucky to meet your TF in this life time, you will know. That's why most people discard this concept...its because you can't accept something your rational mind does not believe in and your emotional body has never experienced. It''s just like there are some people who say that intuitive healers and mediums are all fraud and fake and such things do not exist. It's what they believe and they have never had an experience to prove otherwise. Obviously, you will say they are real because that's who you are in your occupational professional field. Do you see what I am getting at?

The feeling of being with your twin is something that words can't describe and even when people who have experienced it try to, the words are pale in comparison to what the experience is really like. All who have been with their twin, will say that it feels like coming home. Do you know what that feeling is like and do you really understand what it really means if you never experienced it? I would imagine that it's the same or similar feeling of when people describe their OBE/NDE. Most will tell you that it felt like their soul was called to come home. You can maybe understand it from your rational mind but understanding something intellectually does not make it to be a real experience if you never had that thing experienced yourself.

Meeting your TF and the journey that follows afterwards transcends everything you ever knew before about love, your values, beliefs, conditioning about what is right/wrong and everything else. You as you ceases to exist because a new version of you is born out of that union. The transformation is so rapid and intense that you will not know what is happening to you on all accounts - emotional, physical and psychological. Twins mirror each other and what that means is that they will show your most pushed away issues, shadows, fears, darkest things that have been buried dormant deep down in your soul that you never wanted to look at. If both are on this path of awakening at the same speed, they will grow together and come into the union and embark on the mission that would serve to better this world. No it doesn't meat that they must be some yogi or spiritual teachers doing that type of work together. There are many other ways to benefit the humanity.

And the last point that I would like to add is that every single person who have come into alignment with their twin, have wished many times not to be chosen (in reality their soul had chosen it way before they came here) to be on that journey because it's not as glorious as some websites portray it to be. The process will literally make you die and be reborn again and it's a very powerful process to say the least. And from what I've read, not all twins end up together (I'm not sure how I feel about this yet). They say that sometimes, the purpose of twins crossing paths with each other is to awaken the other. Lots of them will continue on with their lives, dating and marrying other people. Which means they still have some lessons to learn and will meet in their next/final reincarnation (again from what I've read, it's not 100% the case that only souls who have reached the highest level in their soul's evolution and are living their last life on earth meet their twin).

If you or anyone else is ever interested in how this TF union comes into existence and the process of unfolding between them, you can check out a few TFs on Quora. I am not talking about those who merely study the subject and "know" in theory. Three people in particular who have been undergoing the twin flame process are Xavier Eastenbrick, Liz Henderson and Mz KC Green. They talk about some incredibly profound stuff in their posts but of course it requires to be open to the idea that twin flames are real.

But let's get back to the TF aspects in synastry...I feel like we have totally derailed from the point of the topic that was started...we can continue back and forth trying to convince each other why twins are real of why it's just a mere fantasy. I maintain the position that we don't know so much about what this Universe holds and even when we think we know a lot, we still don't know much Like do you know that we've been experiencing rainbow effect with the energy waves that increasingly get more and more intense since last March and we are currently shifting into the 5th dimension and our DNA is changing to become crystalline? Then there is a subject of Lyrians, Sirians, Arcturians, etc, and other beings that have come and currently walk amongst us humans....I mean the list goes on and on and even some 30/50 years ago people weren't talking about these things. Being open minded about topics that may seem like a stretch of imagination feeds curiosity which makes us connect back to our inner child. Discernment is of course important.

I feel like if you don't believe that Twin Flames are real, this thread is definitely not for you...


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posted January 12, 2019 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi CuriousV, certainly there is evidence that angular connections show up often in very successful marriages. I've never thought the Asc to be about the 'soul' but the IC is and seeing contacts here makes sense. Thing is the IC is about birth, death and ancestors too though, so perhaps the MC and the 'shared mission' fits the twin flame remit more.

I've noticed Vesta to Vesta and Juno to Juno contacts feature (it is hard to find case studies as everybody wants to have met their twin flame, few actually *have*!)

I don't hold much to the vertex, never have haha. I don't see it as connected to love, just inevitability. There's nothing romantic about it.

I've seen a lot of Pluto & Neptune to Sun & Moon interestingly. Not Pluto to Mars, not to say it couldn't happen but that's quite 3D. Pluto to Venus can figure but that comes up a LOT in karmic soulmate relationships.

I like to see Juno to the personal planets too. I really want to get a good load of case studies to further my instincts into greater clarity!! :-)


Interesting insight about the IC and MC aspects...so do you know people who are currently on their TF journey? And if so, do they have IC/IC and MC/MC conjunct or how would these two come in contact?

Also, I don't know much if anything about asteroids, tbh I am pretty new to astrology, hence come to this board to learn , but I've read on here that most astrologers don't even look at asteroids if there are no strong contacts between Sun, Moon or Venus and Mars. So does that stand true in the cases that you've observed? Those who are considered to be twins had strong planetary aspects together with Juno/Juno and Vesta/Vesta contacts? Or were those present even if you didn't notice any other significant aspects? I am just trying to understand what aspects are always there/repeated in each case of a TF union. And are most of them conjuncts or trines like Sun/Moon conjunction, etc...?

I also read/heard that Isis conjunct Osiris would be a definite indicator of a twin. Thoughts?

And what about SN/NN? How would they play out in synastry? Same? Opposite? Conjunct IC or MC?

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posted January 12, 2019 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm very hesitant to delve into TF relationships, as I do believe that while they exist, they are really hard to come by. Both parties are usually having to have gone through a LOT of personal growing, and very rarely to they end up alive/around at the same time and same level.

That being said, I think with the new dimensions that the world has been shifting into, there may just be a higher influx of people meeting deeper soul mates and, possibly, TF style relationships. If only because in the past century, especially the last few decades, humanity has been really aggressive with their self-work on many different levels. We're all striving toward some kind of deeper element of LOVE between us all, and I hope beyond hope that this involves finding more of us to share together with. Even if it's just to help open us up even further. We desperately need it as a species.

I've only ever had one experience with someone that I may hesitate to call a TF type of thing. I have seen very little online that really matched with it, but somehow it still feels along those lines. Especially with the 'one person is much further along' in one way or another.

If I look at it from the perspective that's talked about here and what waxlobster has been saying, I do see some similarities.

We have a Juno/Juno conjunction, mutual Vesta/Angle contacts, and my NN/SN conjunct their MC/IC angle. Some Neptune connection, some Pluto- they have a strong Neptune and I have a strong Pluto, both of which are connected, though not with personal planets.

I would say if it were something, it may be one that isn't quite ready, and might unfortunately not be meant for this lifetime. That being said, I am fascinated by this thread and stoked to keep following!

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posted January 13, 2019 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoveAstrally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been looking into this in depth recently and there isn't a whole lot online to compare my charts to. I'm positive I found mine... I don't do the running/chasing thing because I know where that ends up and timing never works out anyway. Would just rather be friends! Until maybe another day.


Here's what I have come across in my personal synastry example (everything within 0-2 deg):
my IC conjunct guys AC
my MC conjunct guys DC
my AC opposite guys NN
my SN conjunct guys Sun
my Mars trine guys Sun
Venus trine Venus - exact by a couple minutes
Neptune conjunct Neptune
my Ceres opposite guys Juno
my Vesta opposite guys Ceres
my Vertex conjunct guys Eros
my MC conjunct guys Amor
my Amor conjunct guys MC (^reflection*)

There's more, but this is just off the top of my head. *What I mean by reflection: I see them in synastry aspects as well as we have the SAME placements in our natal charts as far as planets & asteroids in aspects & specific houses. Eerily too similar for me to ignore.


Some of my composite examples (everything within 0-2 deg):
North Node - Moon - Saturn - Spirit[37452] exactly conjunct (6H)
Sun - Venus - Mercury conjunct (11H)
Pluto on the IC
Mars conjunct Psyche exact
Alma conjunct Eros on the DC
Amor conjunct MC
Juno conjunct Lilith
There's more...The composite chart is filled with other wider conjunctions and opposites mostly. Most planets in the 12/11 & 5/6 houses.

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posted January 13, 2019 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hikaru - it varies. I expect to see Pluto and Neptune playing a part but it's not like you can say, "Moon opposite Neptune" = twin flames. There are certain areas I expect to see emphasised and there will be some mirroring also. I'm getting there but I can't explain very well yet, and as you know astrology is never cut and dried ;-) That's why this Venus square Uranus on the angles will never be bored of it ;-)

Yes, I also don't think it's that simple or I will have MANY TFs! 🤣

Firstly, how do you define TF? And while you're at it, Soulmate too? I've come across several definitions online but they sound like it could be anyone. 😫

I'm interested to know how you identify them in synastry. Pls pls share when you're ready. My TF/Soulmate may be lurking somewhere...lol

EDIT: Talking about mirroring, I recently found out that his natal planets mirror my draconic planets and vice versa, while in synastry we actually don't have any similar personal planets. We even have Asc-Dsc mirror. Since draconic represents the "soul", is this one type of "mirroring"?

I've dated many guys (3 serious relationships) and he's someone I feel the most comfortable & satisfied with - mentally/emotionally/sexually... and I'm my most loving, caring, gentle & forgiving self when I'm with him. He's also someone I'm not afraid to bare my feelings to (even if it means showing my weakness/threatening the r/s). He's someone I'll let go and still love forever. He's someone who appeared in my dream before we met. I don't know how to best explain these feelings w/o someone telling me these feelings are normal when you love someone. But I know I feel different with him...

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posted January 13, 2019 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoveAstrally:
I'm positive I found mine...

Synastry aside, how do you know you have found yours? Pls list some tell-tale signs.

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LunaIscariot
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posted January 13, 2019 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well it wasn’t an interesting observation, it was an irrelevant one? Because what does me being annoyed have to do with anything since I’m not talking about my personal feelings here. We’re talking about a concept.
Oh and being an intuitive is not my profession, it’s something I do on the side. I don’t usually charge for my services, it’s out of generosity and to help others primarily. My primary profession/income is healthcare.

You’re projecting a lot though saying I’m the one being defensive? Uh. No, that’s you guys.... You’re the ones feeling threatened and being defensive because I’m saying that your romantic fantasy isn’t real and now you’re trying to defend that and assuming and projecting onto me. And I say trying, because what you guys are describing is just what happens in a soulmate relationship and real love in general lol. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
When you say that’s not what people describe in twin flame relationships, you still have no way of knowing that what these random people are describing is the truth or if they’re just deluded themselves. How do they know it’s a twin flame relationship? They dont, they just want it to be and so that’s what they’re calling it. There’s no proof of a twinflame relationship besides what people have described, but that’s still a subjective experience and nothing we can accurately confirm or calibrate as a twin flame relationship.
But listen, you guys can believe what you want at the end of the day obviously. But you should ask yourselves why this concept of twinflame is so important or appealing to you, why you’re searching for and reject the possibility of it not being real. Why isn’t genuine love enough? What do you think is so great or special about this twin flame concept.
Because everything you described (meaning people on Quora lol) that happens in a twin flame union is things you can do on your own. You can evolve spiritually, grow, etc. All those things you mentioned. Especially the self love part. You don’t need to hope you find a “twinflame” to do so.
Anyways, good luck and have fun.

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posted January 13, 2019 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, Hikaru
Draconic - natal as well as Draconic -Draconic is very active in the synastry of twinflames. Especially Draconic-Natal, because Draconic is the soul and needs to be anchored into the partner's natal, and vise versa. Look for Draconic Sun-Moon -Saturn being on partner's angles and natal Nodes

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posted January 13, 2019 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
yes, Hikaru
Draconic - natal as well as Draconic -Draconic is very active in the synastry of twinflames. Especially Draconic-Natal, because Draconic is the soul and needs to be anchored into the partner's natal, and vise versa. Look for Draconic Sun-Moon -Saturn being on partner's angles and natal Nodes


Just Sun/Moon/Saturn on angles/nodes? And are you only taking about conjunctions?

Because...

My Draconic Sun sextile his natal Asc/trine Dsc
My Draconic Moon conjunct his natal SN & MC
My Draconic Saturn sextile his natal Dsc/trine Asc

His Draconic Sun conjunct my MC, square my Dsc/NN
His Draconic Saturn sextile my natal Dsc/trine Asc


I think the mere fact that several of his natal planets appear as my Draconic planets and vice versa is amazing. It's like we're a reflection of each other's souls.

In natal, he has Sun/Mercury in Virgo, Moon in Libra, Mars/Asc in Cancer.
In Draconic, I've Sun/Mercury in Virgo, Asc/Venus in Libra, Mars in Cancer.

In natal, I've Moon in Sag, Mars in Pisces.
In Draconic, he has Asc/Mars in Sag, Sun/Moon in Pisces.

His Draconic Dsc in Gemini. My natal Asc/Venus in Gemini.

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posted January 13, 2019 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hikaru,

Conjunctions and opposition aspects.
Oppositions matter because they are actually conjunctions in the Draconuc chart derived from the South Node. In the North Node Draconuc ( The draconuc we usually look at), they appear as oppositions.

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posted January 13, 2019 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Hikaru,

Conjunctions and opposition aspects.
Oppositions matter because they are actually conjunctions in the Draconuc chart derived from the South Node. In the North Node Draconuc ( The draconuc we usually look at), they appear as oppositions.


Ok, then it's just:

My Draconic Moon conjunct his natal SN & MC (obviously opp my NN & IC as well)

His Draconic Sun conjunct my natal MC (obviously opp IC as well)

I also edited my post above.

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posted January 13, 2019 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Draconic moon on natal Nodes is pretty significant!

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