posted February 28, 2019 07:08 PM            

Interesting.

posted March 01, 2019 12:37 AM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
I found your chart from our old thread. I don't complete it because you need something in early Cancer. But I support your Venus with mine, and my Chiron. And my Uranus. I widely square you with my Pluto.

Interesting.

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Yeah.. always interesting

I have big issues with Cancerians for romance. Unfortunate, because I long for nurturing in relationships.

I am not sure if it's because it's opposite my Venus, or because it squares my Moon, or because a Cancerian man does not fit well with my (super-boosted) Sag Mars (conjunct Jupiter). Or even if it's it's because Mercury on that North side of the chart just doesn't do it for me. My chart is very western/northern dominant.

So far then, I do not like it when someone completes my t-square and forms a grand cross. But I am talking romantically. Because, I do tend to stick well with female Cancerians and have a lot of them in my life!

The ruler of my 7H is too, in my 10th, so again with the Capricorn flavour.

I've just come to own more my 7H, and I am more Cancerian when relating.

I find that anyone who supports my Venus (including Venus conjunction) is good for me overall, because it boosts my esteem. But we know that it depends on their chart condition too.

My Venus is probably not in great condition in the 12H, and with my Moon squaring it. So, if I was to have only one supported, I would choose Venus.

My Moon is conjunct Uranus too. So, my Venus is ganged-up-on by both of them, and from the more assertive 10H.

In my early days I would go more the Moon. But the Moon is so reflective and dependent, it does nothing for strengthening myself and I tend to loose my identity because (if) it squares my Venus. I need that Venus boost is what I am saying.

posted March 01, 2019 06:02 AM            

It's good that the ruler of his Gem Venus deposits in Cancer. Ditto with his Moon.

His Saturn and Moon are in mutual reception. His Jupiter and Neptune are in mutual reception.

I feel a bit funny about how the NN squares that very tight Jupiter/Juno conjunction as a reflection of his character. And as does Venus.

This conjunction of his though, gives some relief to your Sun/Moon opposition. It's a bit wide, but will pack enough punch because it's a strong conjunction. It's important too, because it's a strong Juno and Jupiter that's involved: both are important for love. And yes, opposite your Mars for some fun There's a nice little configuration going on there that will be good for longevity, imho

That conjunction is right in your 4H too. Infact, all his planets, as you will know, are activating your relationship houses. Hubba hubba.. all those planets of his in your 8H.. Including Saturn.. hmm..

Your Mercury/Sat gives a bit of relief to that same square.. it's a bit wide though. His Mars is there already anyhow so, you there's a bit of a party going on there, even though it's wide, there's enough planets involved. [What's in like with a Mars on your Mercury btw? I had it with Hyp]? Also, it's good that his Mars is nice and clean so the aggression wont be too much. And same with your Mer/Saturn - nice and clean too.

That Mercury/Sat of yours gives a nicer, closer, relief to the opposition with his Chiron and Uranus (as does his Mars). And this is substantial I think, because, Saturn will stabilise that Uranus business.

And you Sun (and Val) gives a bit of relief the the other square with his Pluto and Saturn.. but wide again.

However, your Venus (again) gives a good relief to that same square. Closest orb to his Saturn. I think this is really noice.

There seems to be a bit of good action around your Venus (and Saturn) that is contributing to his chart.
To have Venus is important

Statistical side note: it's quite remarkable in any chart that there is such a high rate of planetary aspects.. the odds of this happening I mean.

Hey, tell me - what's Cancer on the 8H like for you? ACTUALLY, I will ask you about your 4H(Pis) 5H(Ar), 7H(Gem), and 8H(Can), please. These are the same as Hypo.

I hope I am not repeating anything that you have already stated

posted March 01, 2019 05:07 PM            

I have been swamped here and am just now getting back to you. I am sorry!

So first how I feel my houses- I am a scorpio ASC so I feel this increases the intensity for me. I am very scorpionic though. I blame this on 8th house Cancer Sun, with Lilith. Notice my 2nd and 8th houses are encapsulated though. They are trapped. I need Gemini people to let me in to my 8th house and Sag people to let me in to my 2nd.

8th house Cancer is very intense emotionally. I require a lot of depth and emotional involvement in ALL relationships. I am very emotionally invested when I accept a person in to my circle. And I keep that circle tight! Once you are in, I am intensely connected to you. If you cross a personal boundary though, the 2nd house Cap Moon shoves you out and slams the door.

7th house Gemini actually begins in Taurus. But the only Taurus I care about is Taurus 20ish degrees because it hits my Moon and Mars. I prefer Venus here. I love Gemini people and given my Virgo planets I do quite well with the energy.

4th house Pisces- not sure about this. Other than thinking about your comment about my 12th house Scorpio Uranus. Felt that in the context of my family life being very confusing and unclear. They were very rigid and disciplined parents, but it lacked emotional depth. So you hit the nail on the head that the instability came from the outside. I never felt like I belonged, and I could not tell that it wasn't an issue with me but with others. I belonged nowhere. Only now as I have embraced who I am without care for fitting in, do I finally feel at peace. And interestingly, I now draw people to me (thinking friends and career.) They fit in with me, whereas before I tried to fit in with them.

In synastry I don't often have Pisces planets and haven't done as well when I have. Pisces Moons haven't worked as well for me as you would think.

Aries 5th house- almost never activated for love. Friends- tons of Aries people. But not romantic. I much prefer my Mars to be activated because its a triple whammy- ruler of ASC, ruler of 5th, and in trine to my Moon.

posted March 01, 2019 05:11 PM            

I think I actually do feel his mars on my mercury. we have really active conversations- tons of fun! my neptune trines his mars too.

I have never experienced Saturn in my 8th before. Hoping with my Saturn influences it's not a killer.

posted March 02, 2019 04:26 AM            

But, um.. what are you like it the sack?

posted March 02, 2019 06:48 AM            

But I have different Mars and Venus than your guy. Intensity is important. I’m not technical, I’m emotional. But I also have Eros and litlith with sun and Jupiter all opposing moon. Mars is latched in to that. I don’t know how much you can go by house alone.

posted March 02, 2019 07:36 AM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Hahahahahaha! Oh you’re direct.

But I have different Mars and Venus than your guy. Intensity is important. I’m not technical, I’m emotional. But I also have Eros and litlith with sun and Jupiter all opposing moon. Mars is latched in to that. I don’t know how much you can go by house alone.

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I am aware of this and can assess with this in mind. Yes still, for you to explain can be hard to isolate the house in query

posted March 02, 2019 05:09 PM            

here's mine too again:

posted March 02, 2019 05:22 PM            

and for you, friend, the grid...

posted March 02, 2019 06:02 PM            

I am not a huge fan of the 12th house composite mars. I have experienced that in the past but in the previous relationship it was also conjunct uranus and that was bad. Here it is trine to Chiron and conjunct Valentine, so maybe that eases things.

I am not as worried about the Uranus Chiron opposition in composite as we both have it tight in natal. I also think the geometric configurations of grand cross in synastry and T square in composite will be binding.

I am considering that 11th house stellium. I think this will resonate with him as his 8th house is Uranus ruled. It resonates with me too as I have Juno in Aqua. Moon in the 5th, never had that. I like it because I think it lightens some of the Cap essence. And we definitely do have fun a lot. When planning dates with him I find myself constantly wanting to "do something fun" more than just going out. That's new to me.

with that juno jupiter conjunction now on his MC, it elevates the importance even more. and I hit that with my Jupiter, moon and mars.

posted March 02, 2019 06:45 PM            

Thanks for the grid! Can we have one too on his natal pleese?

posted March 03, 2019 07:30 PM            

That you both have Sun opposite Moon, and in the same signs, is uncanny, Stoney.

It will go a very long way I think.

I've just moved house and settling in. I'll be back "soon"

posted March 04, 2019 06:31 AM            

The differences- in composite we have Valentine Mars. Here we have Valentine and Amor trine/sextile to Venus and Moon. And Jupiter still supports the whole stellium/opposition. And in both, mars is supporting/providing positive ease to the grand cross structure.

davison:

posted March 06, 2019 12:28 AM            

I am at quite close range with a Cancerian at the moment and who is completing my T-square.

I'm collecting data.

posted March 06, 2019 08:15 AM            

grid, because we all know you are going to ask for it :

and because I love declinations, check out the parallels in composite chart:

posted March 06, 2019 06:46 PM            

Yeah.. cancer is just a male friend who is too young for me. But we have something.

posted March 08, 2019 09:46 PM            

I think it's going to be interesting because I like the composite that, I assume, will provide a feeling that you both "have something" and that potential exists. This is contrasted with the synastry, that has some tricky bits.

Typical relationship, hey?

posted March 09, 2019 05:44 AM            

So for him... tightest synastry aspects would be

Moon conjunct moon, 2 degrees
Jupiter trine Jupiterand his Juno, 2 degrees
My Jupiter conjunct his sun, 3 degrees
Venus square venus, 3 degrees
Mars trine his moon, 2 degrees
Mars opposite his Jupiter, 3 degrees
His mc/ic looks to be right on my Nn/sn
His valentine conjunct my nn, 2 degrees

Is that what you mean? My mind doesn’t care about the orbs from lines and percentages because I memorize numbers. Once I know a chart, it’s locked in my brain and I overlap them in my head.

In terms of relationship we are in crush mode. We are older but this feels like young love. Standing outside our cars for an hour talking because you don’t want the date to be over. 😁. That kind of sweet stage. All the men I’ve dated up until this point had an agenda. I don’t feel an agenda from him.

So that’s me. How about your younger Cancer friend?

posted March 09, 2019 06:33 AM            

I've moved and I am now sharing with a Cancerian man. We share a house, so it's not intimate and I haven't done his chart. Nothing to report, except that I think he is completing my t-square. So I am observing that

posted March 09, 2019 06:41 AM            

sharing house with a Cancer man will be interesting and I would love to check out that chart. Are you still doing online dating? or is that on hold for the moment? I find it so irritating after a while and just go back to solitude. This guy of mine was on there, but we actually met through mutual friends so I feel better about that.

I will say this- with charts always so intertwined I always struggle to separate what aspects feel like what. Jupiter on the ASC, jupiter trine jupiter, mars to moon, moon to moon... what is doing what? And essentially those are all interconnected too.