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posted March 24, 2019 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you believe in such scenario, it makes sense to think something went wrong back then, as you said. Composite Saturn is in third house, so the key could be about a communication block, whether we believe in former lives or not... maybe, now I'm thinking, cause of those cultural differences you have mentioned? Being Neptune aspects signficiant also in synastry, if I'm not wrong, this might pose misunderstandings or have you experienced this with him already... ? Just guessing.

It seems there is lot of focus on communication 3rd house in composite so that could be the key to be open communication wise in order to prevent misunderstandings.we haven't interacted personally as yet but psychically yes...ya that's weird.
Squares are something we have to deal with or could be skipped steps as i have read. And here saturn is exact square nodes. Generally planets conjunct nodes in composite give purpose to the relationship there arent any in this composite

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posted March 24, 2019 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stoika7:
[b] If you believe in such scenario, it makes sense to think something went wrong back then, as you said. Composite Saturn is in third house, so the key could be about a communication block, whether we believe in former lives or not... maybe, now I'm thinking, cause of those cultural differences you have mentioned? Being Neptune aspects signficiant also in synastry, if I'm not wrong, this might pose misunderstandings or have you experienced this with him already... ? Just guessing.


It seems there is lot of focus on communication 3rd house in composite so that could be the key to be open communication wise in order to prevent misunderstandings.we haven't interacted personally as yet but psychically yes...ya that's weird.
Squares are something we have to deal with or could be skipped steps as i have read. And here saturn is exact square nodes. Generally planets conjunct nodes in composite give purpose to the relationship there arent any in this composite[/B][/QUOTE]

Apparently sun mercury venus conjunction in composite is love stellium but jupiter which is the chart ruler is squaring the love stellium.. So what could it imply?

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posted March 24, 2019 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Coolkewlio:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stoika7:
[b] If you believe in such scenario, it makes sense to think something went wrong back then, as you said. Composite Saturn is in third house, so the key could be about a communication block, whether we believe in former lives or not... maybe, now I'm thinking, cause of those cultural differences you have mentioned? Being Neptune aspects signficiant also in synastry, if I'm not wrong, this might pose misunderstandings or have you experienced this with him already... ? Just guessing.


It seems there is lot of focus on communication 3rd house in composite so that could be the key to be open communication wise in order to prevent misunderstandings.we haven't interacted personally as yet but psychically yes...ya that's weird.
Squares are something we have to deal with or could be skipped steps as i have read. And here saturn is exact square nodes. Generally planets conjunct nodes in composite give purpose to the relationship there arent any in this composite[/B][/QUOTE]

I agree, it looks like skipped steps, so I could figure out that the saturn square NN can suggest that the third house is "blocked" here and might prevent future developments... Look also at Compo. Mercury square Pluto, for the complete picture... this square happens in the two major houses of your relationship, 2th and 11th... and then Saturn square Pluto/NN. But I still think of Mars and the Jupiter squares. I think this means it all require an effort, action, otherwise it might not develope. Since you say you two never really had an open exchange but only on a psychic level (I know what you mean, I have expereinced this!), I am wondering what is preventing the communication in reality, but I can see this from those mercury and saturn squares.

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posted March 24, 2019 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I meant physically, not pshychic...!

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posted March 25, 2019 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sorry, I meant physically, not pshychic...!

Its a future connection will meet its just that before that we have already connected in a psychic way.

I noticed skipped steps in synastry. I have skipped step in my natal with moon square nodes in 11th house and he has skipped step with sun alongwith mercury mars square nodes in 2nd house.We are both hitting each other's skipped step planets, i e, my NN conjunct his skipped step planets sun, mars, mercury and his NN conjunct my skipped step planet moon. Its dw. Like i mentioned in the title about NN conjunct sun and moon in synastry those are actually our skipped steps planet too. What do u think of this??

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posted March 25, 2019 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stoika7:
[b]Sorry, I meant physically, not pshychic...!


Its a future connection will meet its just that before that we have already connected in a psychic way.

I noticed skipped steps in synastry. I have skipped step in my natal with moon square nodes in 11th house and he has skipped step with sun alongwith mercury mars square nodes in 2nd house.We are both hitting each other's skipped step planets, i e, my NN conjunct his skipped step planets sun, mars, mercury and his NN conjunct my skipped step planet moon. Its dw. Like i mentioned in the title about NN conjunct sun and moon in synastry those are actually our skipped steps planet too. What do u think of this?? [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, I think it's amazing. It looks like you both might grow together and learn a lot from each others, either you're a couple or just friends. Big karma. So what is missing in real? What is preventing the interaction, why the third house block?

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posted March 25, 2019 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think sun conjunct saturn, venus conjunct saturn in synastry gives longevity.We do have these two in synastry. Any other combinations?

You said you have not interacted with this person so who is he/she to you right now? It's not meaningful to study the composite when you don't even have a relationship (yet) because even if you have a fantastic composite with them, it doesn't mean a relationship will happen.

Then again looking at your composite... it tells of an intense merging of energies which means you tango very well together. Your energies are in sync. This relationship is also very heavy Uranus/Neptune + several planets in Aquarius, which means an exciting yet unpredictable energy will permeate the relationship, and both of you can also get very idealistic/dreamy/unrealistic together. It doesn't look like a particularly emotional relationship but there'll be a lot of sharing of feelings.

Also just a mental note... Todd says that Pluto square Saturn in composite is a dealbreaker and the only way to overcome this is if both parties have this in their natal. I have a friend who has this aspect in composite with her ex-husband (they also have this in natal so that could be the reason why they lasted 16yrs).

For synastry, I typically look at the inner planets first (planet-planet/angles/house rulers) before checking the outer. Check also subtle clues e.g. Venus in natal 4th makes one seek a close, nurturing relationship that resonates well with Cancer energies, and that creates attraction as well. My 7th ruler in Jupiter in the sign of Aries so I like people with Mars-Jupiter energies.

Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars are always the first thing to look out for. I personally adore Moon-Venus contacts. It's very tender & loving. Venus-Mars to me is meh although a lot of people swear by it. This aspect isn't hot IMO. It simply shows sexual compatibility. But there're other aspects that show sexual compatibility as well (e.g. Mars-Mars).

When you have the inner planets mostly talking nicely to each other (you need some squares/oppositions too if not the energies feel boring), you then check the outer.

Saturn to Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars/angles are all binding. Too much Saturn can feel heavy/obligated so I think 2-3 aspects (preferably harmonious ones) are good enough.

Pluto adds intensity and because Pluto is possessive, it makes people very very hard to let go.

Neptune is always nice... dreamy... forgiving... psychic.. but be careful of wearing rose-tinted lens. How I deal with Neptune is I will always try to dig out that person's flaws (lol) and show him mine.

Uranus is hard to manage albeit exciting. A little bit of it is nice to add spice but I wouldn't want too much of it.

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posted March 25, 2019 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, I think it's amazing. It looks like you both might grow together and learn a lot from each others, either you're a couple or just friends. Big karma. So what is missing in real? What is preventing the interaction, why the third house block?


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posted March 25, 2019 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
You said you have not interacted with this person so who is he/she to you right now? It's not meaningful to study the composite when you don't even have a relationship (yet) because even if you have a fantastic composite with them, it doesn't mean a relationship will happen.

Then again looking at your composite... it tells of an intense merging of energies which means you tango very well together. Your energies are in sync. This relationship is also very heavy Uranus/Neptune + several planets in Aquarius, which means an exciting yet unpredictable energy will permeate the relationship, and both of you can also get very idealistic/dreamy/unrealistic together. It doesn't look like a particularly emotional relationship but there'll be a lot of sharing of feelings.

For synastry, I typically look at the inner planets first (planet-planet/angles/house rulers) before checking the outer. Check also subtle clues e.g. Venus in natal 4th makes one seek a close, nurturing relationship that resonates well with Cancer energies, and that creates attraction as well. My 7th ruler in Jupiter in the sign of Aries so I like people with Mars-Jupiter energies.

Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars are always the first thing to look out for. I personally adore Moon-Venus contacts. It's very tender & loving. Venus-Mars to me is meh although a lot of people swear by it. This aspect isn't hot IMO. It simply shows sexual compatibility. But there're other aspects that show sexual compatibility as well (e.g. Mars-Mars).

When you have the inner planets mostly talking nicely to each other (you need some squares/oppositions too if not the energies feel boring), you then check the outer.

Saturn to Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars/angles are all binding. Too much Saturn can feel heavy/obligated so I think 2-3 aspects (preferably harmonious ones) are good enough.

Pluto adds intensity and because Pluto is possessive, it makes people very very hard to let go.

Neptune is always nice... dreamy... forgiving... psychic.. but be careful of wearing rose-tinted lens. How I deal with Neptune is I will always try to dig out that person's flaws (lol) and show him mine.

Uranus is hard to manage albeit exciting. A little bit of it is nice to add spice but I wouldn't want too much of it.


Neptune conjunct/opposite basically major aspects to moon in synastry or composite gives true love feeling like they say it gives u illusion but actually it usually gives spiritual bond and people stick together because of that dreamy love.Now there could be other bad aspects which could break them apart.

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posted March 25, 2019 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Neptune conjunct/opposite basically major aspects to moon in synastry or composite gives true love feeling like they say it gives u illusion but actually it usually gives spiritual bond and people stick together because of that dreamy love.Now there could be other bad aspects which could break them apart.

So does the composite get activated when u interact with someone or only when with that someone u become friends or get in relationship?

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posted March 25, 2019 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The interaction will happen when its time actually i just got to know in advance as i got intrigued about this person. It cant just be one day encounter with all this in synastry i guess. I was told it would be impactful. There is always some planet squaring nodes in composite i have noticed in most charts.That planet will have a reason or need to be dealt with by those two people. Also saturn in 3rd not necessarily about blockage for the connection itself i think.

I meant the saturn square NN for the blockage... you don' t always have squares to the nodes in composite, I don't have it in most of my relationships... btw I was asking you those questions cause it wasn't clear to me what is the actual relationship you have with this person, so I understand now that he's just someone you feel an attraction to but don't actually know at all, right? So, what I meant, since you asked if it might ever become a real relationship other than just platonic, I meant to say that maybe the Saturn square Node in the third, Mercury aspects together with the stellium suggests it takes a communication effort in order to actually make it happen/work out. Just my guess.

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posted March 25, 2019 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Coolkewlio:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Coolkewlio:
[b] Neptune conjunct/opposite basically major aspects to moon in synastry or composite gives true love feeling like they say it gives u illusion but actually it usually gives spiritual bond and people stick together because of that dreamy love.Now there could be other bad aspects which could break them apart.


So does the composite get activated when u interact with someone or only when with that someone u become friends or get in relationship? [/B][/QUOTE]

I'm confused... you said you have interacted psychically with this person but not personally? What do you mean?

Study the composite ONLY if you are in a relationship with them already - be it friends, colleagues or lovers. Then there's REAL energy exchange and the composite becomes meaningful.

Neptune does give you loving feelings & bond, but it could also be all an illusion esp. hard aspects. So be careful what you're feeling... is this really love? Or an illusion of love?

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posted March 25, 2019 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm confused... you said you have interacted psychically with this person but not personally? What do you mean?

Study the composite ONLY if you are in a relationship with them already - be it friends, colleagues or lovers. Then there's REAL energy exchange and the composite becomes meaningful.

Neptune does give you loving feelings & bond, but it could also be all an illusion esp. hard aspects. So be careful what you're feeling... is this really love? Or an illusion of love?


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5360/U18nMU.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2310/ABQeP8.j

both our natal charts links are above . Synastry shows potential what may happen. The one with pisces sun sign is my chart.

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posted March 25, 2019 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I meant the saturn square NN for the blockage... you don' t always have squares to the nodes in composite, I don't have it in most of my relationships... btw I was asking you those questions cause it wasn't clear to me what is the actual relationship you have with this person, so I understand now that he's just someone you feel an attraction to but don't actually know at all, right? So, what I meant, since you asked if it might ever become a real relationship other than just platonic, I meant to say that maybe the Saturn square Node in the third, Mercury aspects together with the stellium suggests it takes a communication effort in order to actually make it happen/work out. Just my guess.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5360/U18nMU.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2310/ABQeP8.j

both our natal charts links are above . Synastry shows potential what may happen. The one with pisces sun sign is my chart.
It can be any relation i just wanted to know it could turn out to be platonic, romantic or parental, etc

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posted March 25, 2019 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry but you sound like you wanna create a fantasy first before reality. I suggest you get to know this person first because it seems you don't even know him/her.

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posted March 25, 2019 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Coolkewlio:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5360/U18nMU.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2310/ABQeP8.j

both our natal charts links are above . Synastry shows potential what may happen. The one with pisces sun sign is my chart.
It can be any relation i just wanted to know it could turn out to be platonic, romantic or parental, etc


Stoika7 you have anything to add to this? Let me know

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posted March 25, 2019 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Coolkewlio:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5360/U18nMU.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2310/ABQeP8.j

both our natal charts links are above . Synastry shows potential what may happen. The one with pisces sun sign is my chart.
It can be any relation i just wanted to know it could turn out to be platonic, romantic or parental, etc


As I said, it might look either platonic or romantic (stellium with moon conjunct mars and neptune) and with a certain degree of committment (saturn trine jupiter), but the jupiter squares and uranus/neptune aspects plus the saturn square NN leave a question mark, until it becomes a real relationship, and whether it does you could figure out better such dynamics. I partly agree with Hikaru29 that it's not meaninful to study the composite until you're in a relationship, but I still think you can still check for potential and I understand the curiosity in doing so... but it certainly cant tell you what is really going to happen... I see you have Neptune square Moon in your natal chart, so I would suggest to be wary to not "bet" in your expectations. This is a typical personal aspect for platonic love.

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posted March 25, 2019 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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As I said, it might look either platonic or romantic (stellium with moon conjunct mars and neptune) and with a certain degree of committment (saturn trine jupiter), but the jupiter squares and uranus/neptune aspects plus the saturn square NN leave a question mark, until it becomes a real relationship, and whether it does you could figure out better such dynamics. I partly agree with Hikaru29 that it's not meaninful to study the composite until you're in a relationship, but I still think you can still check for potential and I understand the curiosity in doing so... but it certainly cant tell you what is really going to happen... I see you have Neptune square Moon in your natal chart, so I would suggest to be wary to not "bet" in your expectations. This is a typical personal aspect for platonic love.

thats why i gave natal chart links since composite can't tell anything as of now. the skipped step synastry intrigues me.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5360/U18nMU.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2310/ABQeP8.j

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posted March 25, 2019 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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thats why i gave natal chart links since composite can't tell anything as of now. the skipped step synastry intrigues me.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5360/U18nMU.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2310/ABQeP8.j


yes, but it's the same, by your personal charts and synastry you can check a potential compatibility, but it won't tell you if the relationship will actually start. As I mentioned before, a progressed composite might say more about potential developments at this time, but I don't believe that astrology can predict everything. Since there is such potential and apparently significant karmic aspects (this is what I see), the only thing you can do is to be a little more confident to go ahead, try a contact with him and see what happens :-)

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posted March 25, 2019 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yes, but it's the same, by your personal charts and synastry you can check a potential compatibility, but it won't tell you if the relationship will actually start. As I mentioned before, a progressed composite might say more about potential developments at this time, but I don't believe that astrology can predict everything. Since there is such potential and apparently significant karmic aspects (this is what I see), the only thing you can do is to be a little more confident to go ahead, try a contact with him and see what happens :-)

Yes sure and also its better i think not to know know synastry beforehand might influence the connection and it may not go with the flow.

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posted March 25, 2019 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stoika7:
[b] yes, but it's the same, by your personal charts and synastry you can check a potential compatibility, but it won't tell you if the relationship will actually start. As I mentioned before, a progressed composite might say more about potential developments at this time, but I don't believe that astrology can predict everything. Since there is such potential and apparently significant karmic aspects (this is what I see), the only thing you can do is to be a little more confident to go ahead, try a contact with him and see what happens :-)


Yes sure and also its better i think not to know know synastry beforehand might influence the connection and it may not go with the flow.[/B][/QUOTE]

Exactly... btw, whether something actually starts and you get to know this person better, I think the synastry and composite can even say much more than what we can just guess at this time. In case, give me updates :-))

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posted March 25, 2019 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coolkewlio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Exactly... btw, whether something actually starts and you get to know this person better, I think the synastry and composite can even say much more than what we can just guess at this time. In case, give me updates :-))

Ok will give u update as of now its not likely will take some time. Hope i see u in this forum in future to update u about this connection

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posted March 25, 2019 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stoika7:
[b] Exactly... btw, whether something actually starts and you get to know this person better, I think the synastry and composite can even say much more than what we can just guess at this time. In case, give me updates :-))


Ok will give u update as of now its not likely will take some time. Hope i see u in this forum in future to update u about this connection [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes please, and good luck :-))

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posted March 25, 2019 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I meant the saturn square NN for the blockage... you don' t always have squares to the nodes in composite, I don't have it in most of my relationships...

Typically how would you interpret Saturn square Nodes? If it appears in both synastry and composite.

And how would you interpret Jupiter quintile Saturn in composite?

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posted March 25, 2019 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Typically how would you interpret Saturn square Nodes? If it appears in both synastry and composite.

And how would you interpret Jupiter quintile Saturn in composite?


On Saturn square Nodes in both charts I would say that something prevents developments or the inability to see the purpose and potential of the relationship. I'm always critical about saturn, even though many don't see such squares to the Nodes so tragic, but just mainly binding... I see it binding but dooming, depending also on which house and the whole chart dynamic... if a 12th house is involved as a ruler, for instance, I am not optimistic...

I'm not too familiar with quintile, but Jupiter quintile Saturn in composite might suggest me that there is the ability to overcome related negative aspects and make it work out.

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