posted March 25, 2019 04:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
On Saturn square Nodes in both charts I would say that something prevents developments or the inability to see the purpose and potential of the relationship. I'm always critical about saturn, even though many don't see such squares to the Nodes so tragic, but just mainly binding... I see it binding but dooming, depending also on which house and the whole chart dynamic... if a 12th house is involved as a ruler, for instance, I am not optimistic...

I'm not too familiar with quintile, but Jupiter quintile Saturn in composite might suggest me that there is the ability to overcome related negative aspects and make it work out.

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In r/s 1:
Composite Saturn in 2H square Nodes in 12th/6th.
Saturn rules 11H.

In synastry, Saturn in 3H square partner's Nodes in 4th/10th.

In r/s 2:
Composite Saturn in 2H squares Nodes in 5th/11th.
Saturn rules 8H.

posted March 25, 2019 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
In r/s 1:
Composite Saturn in 2H square Nodes in 12th/6th.
Saturn rules 11H.

In synastry, Saturn in 3H square partner's Nodes in 4th/10th.

In r/s 2:
Composite Saturn in 2H squares Nodes in 5th/11th.
Saturn rules 8H.

In synastry, Saturn in 2H square partner's Nodes in 3rd/9th.

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In r/s 1, it seems that practical matters, attitudes, professional goals or even survival circumstances and purposes clash with the relationship path and environment. Maybe those goals just don't meet and it is difficult to carry on the same page. I would say the relationship should turn to a less selfish attitude and find compromise in order to last long. The twelve house NN is highly karmic and maybe there's need to let go the materialistic aspects/interest of the relationship.

In r/s 2, Saturn still in 2th might pose restrictions to the most lovely and joyful path of the relationship, being again too materialistic. The 3th/9th nodes person can find restrictions to his personal creative and outgoing nature and development.

posted March 25, 2019 06:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
In r/s 1, it seems that practical matters, attitudes, professional goals or even survival circumstances and purposes clash with the relationship path and environment. Maybe those goals just don't meet and it is difficult to carry on the same page. I would say the relationship should turn to a less selfish attitude and find compromise in order to last long. The twelve house NN is highly karmic and maybe there's need to let go the materialistic aspects/interest of the relationship.

In r/s 2, Saturn still in 2th might pose restrictions to the most lovely and joyful path of the relationship, being again too materialistic. The 3th/9th nodes person can find restrictions to his personal creative and outgoing nature and development.

Does it sound too strict...?

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posted March 25, 2019 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Which sounds too strict? r/s 2? Both parties also have their Saturn in 2H so I'm wondering if this makes it easier because it's aligned with their natures?

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I meant my interpretation of both is maybe too strict... since not having the whole charts picture, it is very limiting to me... (and, well, I've got limits on my own about astrology and need to learn more, lol !!)

Natal Saturn in the 2nd would make the person mainly focused on their earthly struggle, which can range from survival/money/poverty struggle to gaining success, professional accomplishment, material well being, property and house issues, but also facing "self-value" issues and depression, depending on how Saturn is aspected in their natal chart. It is an "overwhelming" harsh house to have in Saturn, I think, most of the time. So I guess it would still be relevant how Saturn in the same 2nd house aspects a synastry/composite. Squaring the nodes, it can also refer to the "faith" extent or concern in the relationship success.

posted March 26, 2019 01:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Natal Saturn in the 2nd would make the person mainly focused on their earthly struggle, which can range from survival/money/poverty struggle to gaining success, professional accomplishment, material well being, property and house issues, but also facing "self-value" issues and depression, depending on how Saturn is aspected in their natal chart. It is an "overwhelming" harsh house to have in Saturn, I think, most of the time. So I guess it would still be relevant how Saturn in the same 2nd house aspects a synastry/composite.

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This is quite true. I often felt unaccomplished even though I was holding a good job that paid well. I think Saturn in this placement makes me feel that I'm not "there" yet even though I already have a lot more than others.

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Squaring the nodes, it can also refer to the "faith" extent or concern in the relationship success.

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posted March 26, 2019 04:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Do you mean the Saturn person lacks faith in the relationship?

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Not necessarily lacking the faith, certianly requiring faith but it might become an issue, since the NN suggests a future and a "purpose" of the relationship, Saturn in second aspecting the NN might empower the effort to keep the relationship going even when it might be actually hard or emotionally over, or the success of the relationship is pursued in a stubborn way no matter the circumstances.

posted March 26, 2019 04:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I think Saturn in this placement makes me feel that I'm not "there" yet even though I already have a lot more than others.

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posted March 26, 2019 09:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Saturn in 2nd or in Taurus can also make accomplishments pretty slow to come :-(

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Very true for me. I only started moving up the corporate ladder after my first Saturn return...before that was STAGNANT like stuck in mud.

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Saturn in second aspecting the NN might empower the effort to keep the relationship going even when it might be actually hard or emotionally over, or the success of the relationship is pursued in a stubborn way no matter the circumstances.

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Well, at least I give Saturn credit for its tenacity. LOL.

posted March 26, 2019 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I used to give up too easily so I probably need an encouraging shove from Saturn.

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