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Topic: I'm feeling an energy with him...Thoughts?
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ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 04, 2019 08:06 PM
Hi--I have a new colleague on my team, and I'm feeling an energy with him. I can't tell if it's just intrigue and we have aspects causing that or if this is something more significant.Could you take a look and see if there is anything going on? IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 04, 2019 09:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: Hi--I have a new colleague on my team, and I'm feeling an energy with him. I can't tell if it's just intrigue and we have aspects causing that or if this is something more significant.Could you take a look and see if there is anything going on?
Oh well... definitely Yes! (are you inside or outside?) The "energy" you feel is clear at first look, from that Pluto conjunct Moon in 12th house square Sun/Venus conjunct Jupiter, NNode/Pluto on the ascendant, Uranus conjunct Venus (sparkling!), Sun/Uranus conjunct NNode/trine Jupiter on Sun and Venus (!), and Chiron conjunct Chiron in 7th/9th opposite Venus...! I see an intense attraction here, a dynamic potential committment (Mars/Saturn), also a few challenges from Mars square Uranus/Venus, whatever it is, it's not boring at all. Do you have a Composite chart? IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 05, 2019 03:11 AM
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ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 05, 2019 03:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: Thanks Stoika7! I am on the Outside on the Synastry chart. Here is the composite:
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Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 05, 2019 12:47 PM
There's a big potential for romance in the Composite Neptune trine Moon sextile Jupiter/trine Pluto/sextile Moon, and the Stellium (Sun, Mercury, Venus). The stellium though, in the karmic 12th house, and the ascendant, pose a challenge in the square to Neptune, and sextile Uranus square Moon. This all might be quite lively, cheerful and "sparkling", but Uranus square Moon might be emotionally unstable and the stellium trine Chiron and square Neptune might advice against some higher expectations which might not match with reality and bring to disappointment. The Sun and stellium in the 12th is a warning on its own, it usually suggests a situation of unresolved issues, sometimes it is about unrequited love or something doesn't completely works out how we wish. North Node is also opposite Chiron (in 8th house), suggesting a fated/karmic path about something we cannot completely gain as we wish or that we have to get aware and accept it the way it is. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 05, 2019 02:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stoika7: There's a big potential for romance in the Composite Neptune trine Moon sextile Jupiter/trine Pluto/sextile Moon, and the Stellium (Sun, Mercury, Venus). The stellium though, in the karmic 12th house, and the ascendant, pose a challenge in the square to Neptune, and sextile Uranus square Moon. This all might be quite lively, cheerful and "sparkling", but Uranus square Moon might be emotionally unstable and the stellium trine Chiron and square Neptune might advice against some higher expectations which might not match with reality and bring to disappointment. The Sun and stellium in the 12th is a warning on its own, it usually suggests a situation of unresolved issues, sometimes it is about unrequited love or something doesn't completely works out how we wish. North Node is also opposite Chiron (in 8th house), suggesting a fated/karmic path about something we cannot completely gain as we wish or that we have to get aware and accept it the way it is.
So should I steer clear of anything romantic and keep this platnonic and professional given we work together? Also can you tell me more about Chiron Opposite NN?
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Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 05, 2019 02:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: So should I steer clear of anything romantic and keep this platnonic and professional given we work together?
I don't think so :-) I mean, despite what astrology suggests, I believe we must follow our feelings and chances! The Composite chart at this moment is a plain potential, since you're not in an intimate relationship with this person, this means that you have just few elements to fully understand what the composite is depicting. At this moment, you can figure out that with this person there's certainly something significant drawing you, because I see some karmic elements, and if this becomes an intimate relationship it has a potential romantic development. those challenges I see in the chart might appear whether the bond is established, in the long run. But it might take different shapes that we cannot know at this moment. There is no Saturn "block" so this means that a green light is on, anything can happen between you two. You have Saturn/Mars in the synastry in his 10th house, the NN/Uranus in his 2nd (and your Sun in his 2nd), so that's the evidence there's a shared activity. The synastry Chiron/Chiron (in his 7th) trine your Saturn (in your 4th), square Saturn/Mars and sextile his Venus/Sun (trine your Jupiter) suggest a potential happy and lively bond. I'm not sure about the mutual feelings on the exact "same page" and longtime committment, the Uranus squares pose a question mark in both the charts for a stable potential, but it might also suggest the trait of a relationship based on mutual respect of freedom (especially the NN/Uranus contacts), otherwise there might be disappointment and hurted feelings (Chiron/Chiron opposite Venus/Uranus in synastry and Composite Chiron opposite NN/Uranus). IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 05, 2019 03:16 PM
quote: Also can you tell me more about Chiron Opposite NN?[/B]
Composite 8th house Chiron opposite NN on its own points to an highly intimate and karmic meeting. It is in Taurus, "versus" the Libra NN in 2nd (Taurus ruling house), both planets ruled by Venus. The opposition on the NN is not highly painful, but the 8th Chiron house has a plutonian nature, so it advices against potential "exploitation" of the other person's emotional sensitiveness and freedom. You might push sensitive buttons and trigger each others' deep wounds, this aspect is mostly deeply intimate though and there's a potential karmic development on this intimate level, but I would link this opposition especially to those other aspects I have previously mentioned. IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 2266 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 05, 2019 03:56 PM
the business/educational connection is very clear and very favorable with Jupiter sextile to mars/Saturn/moon and trine to pluto and opposed to Neptune.this is an excellent working relationship.the stellium of mercury/sun and venus with the sun/venus midpoint exactly conjunct mercury and the stellium conjunct the anti-vertex is very high energy. it shows a almost other worldly relationship of affection/attraction and great openness. the vertex axis always adds a intense energy so the feeling that something might developed is strong. but vertex energy can be tricky in that integrating the vertex energy into a relationship is not always simple. I mean that the feeling being elicited between you ,would make one suppose that this attraction and affection could take the relationship to another level. But often the vertex energy does bind as strongly as it promises. here with the stellium inn the 12th house, the relationship would not be isolated, other people would be involved. any romantic relationship would have to be on the low down. wit h the mars/pluto midpoint conjunct to the sun and square to Jupiter, I would think that the importance of the business environment would play a big role as this pattern shows ambitiousness ,almost ruthless pursuit of personal power or wealth. I am thinking that it might have a romantic element but it would have to be a back door hook up so as not to be visible in the business environment. but again the friendship/business colleague relationship is extremely favorable. todd IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 07, 2019 12:23 PM
Thanks Todd! I looked at some asteroids to see if there was anything else...I'm concerned about his Nessus square my Moon... Also I see Lilith aspects, but I am not so familiar with it's energy and who feels what. He is person 1 and I am person 2. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 08, 2019 12:11 AM
Also, do you think he's feeling anything for me?He's a little flirty with me, but he's also in general exuberant and charming-like... IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 08, 2019 03:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: Also, do you think he's feeling anything for me?He's a little flirty with me, but he's also in general exuberant and charming-like...
I think he might be "romantically" attracted cause, despite the Moon/Pluto conjunction in your 2nd "materialistic" house, and despite Venus-Sun conjunct Jupiter on his MC of professional zone and Saturn/Mars conjunct on his 10th (business), your Moon still falls on his 12th, the Chiron/Chiron and Vertex are conjunct on his 7th, and your Neptune on his 4th, which are romantic and sensual aspects. Moreover, the Comp. stellium is in 12th, Comp. Moon and Mars is trine Neptune and sextile Pluto, and Comp. Chiron in 8th is potentially highly intimate (and it is trine the stellium). Your Lilith is conjunct his Moon (on his 9th). Since your Lilith is in your 10th, this might suggest the "hidden feelings" and a line that can't be emotionally crossed... alternatively, it might point to the idea of an "ideal" partner in business (10th house Lilith) which one feels sexually (or secretely) attracted to... His NN in 2nd house conjunct your Sun/Uranus and synastry Uranus conjunct Venus/Uranus, plus the Composite stellium in the 12th and the Composite NN and Uranus in 2nd house opposite Chiron, pose a question mark on whether these feelings can be actually expressed and lead to establish an intimate relationship in your environment. But I would not completely rule it out either. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 10, 2019 08:58 PM
Thank you Stoika! I see him tomorrow...I'll share more energy insights if I get any.IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 13, 2019 12:19 PM
Hi, so he was a little distant this time...I did get on him and a teammate for not getting something done in time, and when he was aggressive about forcing his opinion about something I did get a little upset with him. The good think is when we talk it out it's all good. Venus/Moon perhaps? It bothers me when he doesn't give me his full attention to me and my projects. It almost feels like I'm "chasing" him--and in the beginning he was the complimentary one. Maybe he's thinking since we work together he needs to be careful...? The Moon part of the Pluto/Moon is IN EFFECT. I'm definitely thinking about him a lot. IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 13, 2019 03:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: Hi, so he was a little distant this time...I did get on him and a teammate for not getting something done in time, and when he was aggressive about forcing his opinion about something I did get a little upset with him. The good think is when we talk it out it's all good. Venus/Moon perhaps? It bothers me when he doesn't give me his full attention to me and my projects. It almost feels like I'm "chasing" him--and in the beginning he was the complimentary one. Maybe he's thinking since we work together he needs to be careful...? The Moon part of the Pluto/Moon is IN EFFECT. I'm definitely thinking about him a lot.
Is it possible to have a Progressed Composite at this time? The Pluto/Moon is certainly affecting you in this. I think both synastry and Comp. look very karmic, with those Chiron conjunct Chrion and Vertex, your ASC conjunct his Pluto/NN and your NN conjunct his Sun and Uranus (deep life-changing aspects), Moon conjunct Pluto and Pluto/Pluto... As we previously said, there's a block somehow, and hidden feelings (his Mercury square your Mars, his Lilith conjunct your Moon...) His Natal Neptune opposite Mercury, it might be difficult for him to grasp the other's feelings and he might completely misunderstand others' intentions... his natal Mars square Jupiter together with his Leo Saturn in 10th makes him very ambitious in his career, he needs to be appreciated for his professional talents and wouldn't deal with humiliation. He might put his career before his emotional feelings... Basically, he needs to be encouraged and appreciated, especially in his creative and go-getting goals. Also, he's an intellectual dreamer (Cancer Sun/Venus with Moon and Mercury in Gemini), so he probably dreams big for his professional and love relationship future. Then, bear in mind that your Composite Stellium is in the 12th, which usually is the house of the "unfinished", but it is also life changing/binding somehow. The Comp. Stellium square Neptune and Jupiter (and Neptune opposite Jupiter) suggest that something deep won't be fully expressed in the emotional/chemical potential, there is an idealization which might bring disappointment, also because of Uranus square Moon and opposite Chiron/NN. Since Comp. Jupiter is trine to Pluto/sextile Moon, I think this relationships can work better whether based on grounded shared goals, as a team, Comp. Uranus sextile the Stellium can give you both creative inspiration and a lot of exciting outcome towards common achievements (2nd house). The Comp ASC in Virgo and the vertex in 6th house of Virgo opposite the stellium points to the fact that the professional field is where your relationship will always develope at its best. So this doesn't mean that a romatic involvement isn't possible, but whether it developes, the professional environment will always be the basic common ground. By the way, your Chiron in his 7th house, your synastry Venus/Sun/Moon trines, plus Pluto/Pluto conjunct Moon must have certainly a big emotional/intimate impact on him :-) IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 13, 2019 10:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stoika7: Is it possible to have a Progressed Composite at this time? The Pluto/Moon is certainly affecting you in this. I think both synastry and Comp. look very karmic, with those Chiron conjunct Chrion and Vertex, your ASC conjunct his Pluto/NN and your NN conjunct his Sun and Uranus (deep life-changing aspects), Moon conjunct Pluto and Pluto/Pluto... As we previously said, there's a block somehow, and hidden feelings (his Mercury square your Mars, his Lilith conjunct your Moon...) >>I'm the one that is Pluto NN. In the charts, he's the first person, and I'm the second person. The Sun Conjunct Uranus is also me...so should I reverse your interpretation?
>>Yes, this Pluto Moon is in effect for me, I'm thinking about him, and keep trying to find clues in his chart about what he likes. Him as Pluto, how does he react to my Moon? He hasn't done anything obsessive... His Natal Neptune opposite Mercury, it might be difficult for him to grasp the other's feelings and he might completely misunderstand others' intentions... >>It's my Neptune Opposite his Mercury... his natal Mars square Jupiter together with his Leo Saturn in 10th makes him very ambitious in his career, he needs to be appreciated for his professional talents and wouldn't deal with humiliation. He might put his career before his emotional feelings >>I can see this actually. I feel like he's different with me when executives are around vs just when it's him and I.
... Basically, he needs to be encouraged and appreciated, especially in his creative and go-getting goals. Also, he's an intellectual dreamer (Cancer Sun/Venus with Moon and Mercury in Gemini), so he probably dreams big for his professional and love relationship future. Then, bear in mind that your Composite Stellium is in the 12th, which usually is the house of the "unfinished", but it is also life changing/binding somehow. The Comp. Stellium square Neptune and Jupiter (and Neptune opposite Jupiter) suggest that something deep won't be fully expressed in the emotional/chemical potential, there is an idealization which might bring disappointment, also because of Uranus square Moon and opposite Chiron/NN. Since Comp. Jupiter is trine to Pluto/sextile Moon, I think this relationships can work better whether based on grounded shared goals, as a team, Comp. Uranus sextile the Stellium can give you both creative inspiration and a lot of exciting outcome towards common achievements (2nd house). The Comp ASC in Virgo and the vertex in 6th house of Virgo opposite the stellium points to the fact that the professional field is where your relationship will always develope at its best. So this doesn't mean that a romatic involvement isn't possible, but whether it developes, the professional environment will always be the basic common ground. By the way, your Chiron in his 7th house, your synastry Venus/Sun/Moon trines, plus Pluto/Pluto conjunct Moon must have certainly a big emotional/intimate impact on him :-) >>Oh yea? I do wonder if he's thinking of me. We do have Pluto/Venus at 7 orb, him being Venus...and he's the Pluto in the sextile to my Mars at 4 orb--not sure if that sextile is in play.
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ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 13, 2019 10:41 PM
Here's the Progressed Composite: IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 13, 2019 11:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: Here's the Progressed Composite:
Oh, something seems changing :-) Prog. Venus, Mercury, Uranus moved to the 1st house/Scorpio while Prog. Sun/Pluto still in 12th house, it all ruled by the 7th/Libra ASC... Prog. Venus Mercury Uranus trine Moon in 5th house... and Venus sextile Mars, so something emotional and exciting is growing up here, moreover Prog. Pluto trine Jupiter in 8th and sextile Neptune, points to a growing desire/ambitious expectation/achievement... Prog. Sun in twelve though is sextile to Saturn in 10th, such intimate development is still "hidden" or there's not full awareness of its outcome and Prog. Saturn in 10th house is "cautious" and restrictive, so such emotional development might still be invisible or "under control"... in fact, Prog. Neptune sextile Pluto but is square to Moon square Jupiter, this looks like a warning against possible delusion, and Chiron in 7th is opposite to Prog. Sun, NN, Venus, Mercury, powerfully drawing and intimate but potentially painful in case of disappointment. Also, Prog. Lilith in 8th house square Mars, points to a powerful attraction, but it requires honesty not to bring troubles... in fact, I think this whole Progressed picture suggests that whether the line is being crossed, whether it all gets suddenly and emotionally out of control, clarity, honesty and awareness about the relationship's purpose are required... IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 13, 2019 11:31 PM
Oh boy...should I just nip this in the bud and make sure this stays professional?Or is it so karmic that I'm not going to have control over the situation and things will have to play out? IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 13, 2019 11:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: >>I'm the one that is Pluto NN. In the charts, he's the first person, and I'm the second person. The Sun Conjunct Uranus is also me...so should I reverse your interpretation?
Oh forgive the confusion! Well, those aspects I was mentioning still affect both somehow... quote: >>Yes, this Pluto Moon is in effect for me, I'm thinking about him, and keep trying to find clues in his chart about what he likes. Him as Pluto, how does he react to my Moon? He hasn't done anything obsessive...
His Pluto might be "unconsciously", deeply and sexually attracted to you, cause it's in his 12th house... but might feel it as a stable reference/inspiration cause your Moon is in 2nd and he might not be completely aware of the extent of the emotional involvement of this connection. quote: >>It's my Neptune Opposite his Mercury...
In this case, yes, you might need to get more aware of the other's feelings/thoughts ! But he also has that aspect natally, so misunderstandings and unawareness of each others' intentions are highly possible... probably this is what you should be mainly cautious about. quote: his natal Mars square Jupiter together with his Leo Saturn in 10th makes him very ambitious in his career, he needs to be appreciated for his professional talents and wouldn't deal with humiliation. He might put his career before his emotional feelings
quote: >>I can see this actually. I feel like he's different with me when executives are around vs just when it's him and I.
Well, it wouldn't be a surprise, based on your synastry, that he might feel much more comfortable with you than with any other executives around :-) quote: I do wonder if he's thinking of me. We do have Pluto/Venus at 7 orb, him being Venus...and he's the Pluto in the sextile to my Mars at 4 orb--not sure if that sextile is in play.
It doesn't seem into play, but still his venus sextile your Chiron in his 7th (conjunct Chiron) and your Venus (on his 7th house ruler) is trine to his Moon... :-) We don't know "how" he thinks of you, but since the Prog. Comp. Mercury is trine to the Moon in 5th house together with Prog. Venus (sextile Mars), I think there's an "energy" going on. IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 14, 2019 12:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: Oh boy...should I just nip this in the bud and make sure this stays professional?Or is it so karmic that I'm not going to have control over the situation and things will have to play out?
If it's karmic, it will play out :-D I still think that there's a great chemistry between you two. His Cancer Sun/Venus and Gemini Moon 9th house might actually make him more "shy" than how he appears, while his Libra Pluto and ASC might "hold him back", especially his ASC always needs to make things "fair", even though not always straightforward (OMG, am I talking about him, not you, right? LOL. But you also have Moon, Pluto, Venus in Libra, so you might be a little similar in this)... BUT his Mars (Leo) square Jupiter (Taurus) can be unexpectedly impulsive and "hot-blooded"... Sorry, it seems a little tricky situation, but I would just wait and see :-) IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 14, 2019 10:34 AM
He has Pluto Square Venus Natal...what should I expect with that? Does that put a layer in I need to consider?Anything else you can tell me about his chart? IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 14, 2019 07:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: He has Pluto Square Venus Natal...what should I expect with that? Does that put a layer in I need to consider?Anything else you can tell me about his chart?
He's a very creative/imaginative person, even though this side of his personality might stay locked into his inner world, but having Moon/Mercury in Gemini/9th house sextile Mars he might be actually able to express himself and look very go-getting and easy going in social r/s, this aspect also looks like an artist or intellectual person aspect, I think. But he's still a Cancer Sun/Venus 9th house opposite Sagittarius Neptune 3rd house, and Neptune is opposite Moon/Mercury, his powerful imagination and inner world might take him to develope ideas and expectations that don't completely match with reality and this can mislead him. He's able to deal with platonic love and he might fall victim of unattainable ones. His Venus square Pluto is actually powerfully drawn by sexual/emotional desire, but sometimes such desire misleads him too cause what he wishes for is not always what's really good for him. Especially the 12th house where his Pluto lies might make it harsh for him to accomplish such desires, and when he does succeed, it is never enough, he's never completely satisfied and can't fully enjoy it. He can be powefully sexually attracted also by "forbidden" situations, but he have fear of this at the same time, cause his Taurus Jupiter square Mars might hold him back, and his Pluto and ASC in Libra square Sun/Venus might make him question himself and give him insecurity, especially on a self-value level related to how "fair" and balanced he would socially appear. His NN in 2nd house and SN in Taurus along with Jupiter trine Pluto and Leo Saturn in 10th house and Leo Mars square Jupiter, this all makes him extremely ambitious, even greedy, in his career, but I think also in the emoptional r/s area, since Neptune trine Saturn, sextile Pluto... Lilith/Chiron trine Mars, sextile Moon, he's very sensual and can be emotionally very deep, love can deeply "consume" him, especially with Venus square Pluto into play. Right now, transit Moon is conjunct his Chiron and Sun on Lilith, both planet in his 7th house. At this moment, he might be powerfully attracted and intrigued by someone. Morever, transit Venus in his 5th house is trine his Venus/Sun. Transit Capricorn Saturn in his 4th house opposite Venus might make him cautious though at this moment, he might find difficult to deal with relationships right now (either in private life and professional life), he might be questioning his actual relationships or the way he deals with this area at this moment. He might have or he might have had already a turning point in the r/s, family and/or professional area this year. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 14, 2019 10:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stoika7: He might have or he might have had already a turning point in the r/s, family and/or professional area this year.
He's having a huge turning point this year. He just got promoted and moved to a new city. Don't know much about his family or personal life, but I'm sure moving to a new city and working with all new people is a big change. Also around Greediness...I can tell he wants money. He was asking me all these questions about how much money I made, etc etc. There's something with him and money, almost as if someone were to give him a ton of money to do something outrageous, he would do it. IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted April 14, 2019 11:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: Also around Greediness...I can tell he wants money. He was asking me all these questions about how much money I made, etc etc. There's something with him and money, almost as if someone were to give him a ton of money to do something outrageous, he would do it.
That is probably his Taurus Jupiter in 8th! IP: Logged | |