posted April 28, 2019 12:06 AM            

Before we officially dated, I already realized my jealousy. Even every time he just had a small talk/chit chat with another girl. The jealousy consumed me. It was totally CRAZY. And I think it was the same on his side but he hide it well. When getting into the relationship, It was SOOO Beautiful we were totally in love like it was the first time I felt this feeling in my life. We were crazy about each other. But the jealousy didn’t stop. I realized how I got so jealous and obsessed about him could be a toxic for our relationship, the first time we had our big fight because of my jealousy towards our girl-friend at work, he was sick. I didn’t know I could be that destructive for him. So I told him to stop our relationship. And you know, at that moment it was only about 2 months of our relationship I realized now it was my pluto thingy. but he said he didn’t want to let me go, he said he wanted to see me change, which surprised me.

By the time, after 4 months, The feeling is still there and I tried so hard to control my jealousy and possesiveness in our relationship and I realized it pretty worked out. Every time I got jealous, I used my logic, is it worth it? And I won. But still the jealousy is there.and sometimes the manipulation is there as well. But there is one thing that I realized, he is not as obsessed as he used to be.

Sometimes he acted distances. Is it because of his cancer sun or his Uranus thing? Now I'm wondering if he still wants to continue the relationship or not since he rarely chat me even tough we regularly hang out together but the kiss and stuff is not as passionate as before.

I always wonder if he is still in love with me or he gets tired of this relationship because of this venus-square pluto thing. But every time I asked him, He always says, “no matter what happen, I will always love you”. I don’t know if he meant it or not. What do you think of our synastry? I know it’s hard for us to let go each other, it seems like we have this love-hate relationship. But I really love him. Here is our synastry and composit chart. What do you guys think?

Here's the synastry and composite chart I got :

posted April 28, 2019 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Use imgur to post charts, plz. And please post synastry grid(click option above chart labeled 'PDF additional tables') and composite from astro.com.

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posted April 28, 2019 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by winnertivanigrace:

how to post image on this post? I have tried but still failed. Sorry I'm a newbie

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You did fine, I can easily copy those links into my address bar, but I wish you would use astro.com charts. This is what I'm interested in seeing: https://ibb.co/2hz9dvv

It's called a synastry grid. A lot easier to understand. Also, don't forget the composite chart.

Just go to astro.com, hover over where it says 'free horoscopes' near the top, then look all the way to the right where it says 'extended chart selection'. Input your info there, then click synastry(or composite) in the drop-down menu where it says 'chart type'. Above the actual chart image is an option that says 'PDF additional tables'. That'll show you the synastry grid.

posted April 28, 2019 03:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
You did fine, I can easily copy those links into my address bar, but I wish you would use astro.com charts. This is what I'm interested in seeing: https://ibb.co/2hz9dvv

It's called a synastry grid. A lot easier to understand. Also, don't forget the composite chart.

Just go to astro.com, hover over where it says 'free horoscopes' near the top, then look all the way to the right where it says 'extended chart selection'. Input your info there, then click synastry(or composite) in the drop-down menu where it says 'chart type'. Above the actual chart image is an option that says 'PDF additional tables'. That'll show you the synastry grid.

Sorry for the inconvenience, it's just a better site, IMO.

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Thanks a lot for the explanation. It's okay I'm learning

Here's the synastry chart I got :

https://www.astro.com/tmpd/coohfilenztVf4-u1556434553/astro_61gw_grace_jhon.25486.105919.pdf

and here is the composite chart (I chose composite chart midpoint method) :

https://www.astro.com/tmpd/coohfilenztVf4-u1556434553/astro_621gw_grace_jhon.25578.109747.pdf

Thanks a lot for the input!

posted April 28, 2019 08:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi winnertivanigrace, welcome :-)
You have an intense synastry! The fact that he looks detached, it might come from his Uranus square your Moon and his Moon square your Neptune... Also, his Moon square to your Venus might pose some emotional ups and downs... basically, you might not feel the relationship completely stable with those aspects. His natal Chiron is in Gemini, usually this placement points to some difficult communication, i.e. he might not be able to be completely open about how he feels... and your Moon square to it might trigger this issue of his.

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Yes this is so frustating for me. I don't like his unstable mood. Today we're feeling lovey dovey kissing cuddling all day, the next day he acts as if he's no feeling toward me. When I'm feeling romantic, he's not.

Sometimes for many days he acted distance and not in the mood for romance and love and I kept asking what's going on and it kinda annoyed him, then I decided just to leave him alone when he was not in the mood. Then I let my self busy with my life and waited until he approached me. YES he kept coming back. BUT the wait was uncomfortable and sometimes I let myself overthink and my worst thought would say that "There's gonna be one day he's not gonna love me anymore and not coming back"

posted April 28, 2019 08:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
His Moon square your Neptune might bring some disappointment but your natal Saturn (Capricorn) opposite your Chiron might actually put a burden on your self-worth, so it might very well be that you're subconsciously "punishing" yourself...?
Do you have a Composite chart?

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posted April 28, 2019 08:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes, I saw the Composite now :-)

Composite Uranus is a little ribellious here so you might still question the stability of the relationship, but Composite Saturn in 11th house conjunct Uranus seems to put some balance... Even the plutonian aspects look more balanced here. since Composite Uranus is the chart ruler, I'd say that the r/s works better on a more open and trustful attitude.

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posted April 28, 2019 08:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes, I saw the Composite now :-)

And since Composite Venus is conjunct to Sun, and Jupiter sextile Mercury/Sun, you might have a lovely outgoing romance. With Moon conjunct Chiron in the 5th house, it looks very romantic and deeply intimate.

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posted April 28, 2019 09:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes, I saw the Composite now :-)

Composite Uranus is a little ribellious here so you might still question the stability of the relationship, but Composite Saturn in 11th house conjunct Uranus seems to put some balance... Even the plutonian aspects look more balanced here. since Composite Uranus is the chart ruler, I'd say that the r/s works better on a more open and trustful attitude. And since Composite Venus is conjunct to Sun, and Jupiter sextile Mercury/Sun, you might have a lovely outgoing romance. With Moon conjunct Chiron in the 5th house, it looks very romantic and deeply intimate. North Node conjunct Mars/trine Sun is also exciting and karmic, it's in 2nd house, it suggests that the purpose of the relationship is to gain more self-value and self-confidence. With Saturn/Uranus opposite Moon/Chiron, you might struggle in finding a balance between committment and freedom, since Saturn/Uranus is in the 11th house, it points to the fact that the emotional bond (Moon/Chiron) might be challenged by a sense of restriction, so this aspect should be under control.

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posted April 28, 2019 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by winnertivanigrace:
What do you think? are we soulmate or it's karmic? Is it gonna be long lasting relationship?

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posted April 28, 2019 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by winnertivanigrace:

What do you mean by "punishing" myself? I'm pretty confused.

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I meant that your natal Capricorn Saturn opposite your Chiron might be a little heavy and make you question yourself a lot so you might feel guilty about the jelousy issue more than you should... since you made an effort to control your jelousy, I think you did your best! If he got "colder" since you had that fight, it might be cause of his Libra Moon (am I right? I don't see the image right now, but I remember he was Libra Moon), he might dislike conflicts and confrontation.

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Originally posted by winnertivanigrace:
Yes this is so frustating for me. I don't like his unstable mood. Today we're feeling lovey dovey kissing cuddling all day, the next day he acts as if he's no feeling toward me. When I'm feeling romantic, he's not.

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posted April 29, 2019 04:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi darling, I no longer can see the synastry and composite, the page says the images have inspired...? Sorry, I can't remember all those aspects without looking at it again... is it ok to repost? I'd suggest to use http://tinypic.com/ , once you upload the images, it gives you a code for forums, you copy and paste it here, so I can check it furtherly :-)

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posted April 29, 2019 05:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
This is his Uranus square to your Moon and his Moon square to your Venus. His Libra Moon might act detached sometimes, it might not depend from you or the r/s, it might be just him...

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posted April 29, 2019 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by winnertivanigrace:
Yayyyy I did it! I finally posted the image of my synastry and composite. I's on my post. Please take a look. What are you suggestions for me? Is it soulmate or should i just run away?

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Oh no, you should not run away! I'm just a little confused cause from the grid I see he's Aquarius ASC now, in the synastry graphic he's libra ASC... which one is correct?

If the grid is correct, you have lovely overlays with your Venus conjunct his Sun in his 5th house, you Mercury conjunct his Venus in his 7th, Neptune/Neptune in his 11th, his Jupiter/Saturn trine your Sun/5th house and your Pluto trine his Sun/5th house...

In the Composite, Sun conjunct Venus in 5th house and Moon trine Pluto in 4th house! So this is about romantic love and with Mars trine Pluto, it's very excting and Moon/Chiron there is a familiar and intimate feeling.

Composite North Node conjunct Mars trine Sun in first house/Piesces shows that there is a karmic bond potentially leading to accomplishments and inspiration for each others. Since Composite Sun is in 5th house and chart ruler is 12th house, I think this relationship is meant to "grow up".

Saturn/Uranus opposite Chiron/Moon, as I said, is your weak aspect, the relationship needs to be nurtured on an outgoing way, trying to avoid the Saturn burdens and seriousness which might kill the romance otherwise Uranus might become a destroyer here... if he's Aquarius ASC (?), remember that he's a free spirit and the more he feels restricted, the more he might escape and feel detached.

(sorry about the mistake about his Moon, in the graphic now I see Libra ASC, so this is what I had actually seen in Libra suggesting the detached mood, but which one is correct?)

To answer your question... since Composite ASC/chart ruler/North Node is Piesces, and Comp. Sun/Moon/Chiron is Cancer, you look like "soulmates" of a "young" kind (Comp. Sun in 5th house) heading to a karmic development (12th house chart ruler).

Since Neptune chart ruler is in 11th house, this again points to freedom, selflessness and mutual understanding/compassion, so this is what you relationship needs to be nurtured from.

posted April 29, 2019 07:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Oh no, you should not run away! I'm just a little confused cause from the grid I see he's Aquarius ASC now, in the synastry graphic he's libra ASC... which one is correct?

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It's so kind of you to read my whole synastry. Thanks a million! 😊😊

Sorry for making you confused
I think i might have put different birth time for the grid chart since I got them from different site. I actually don't know his exact birth time so I always put 12.00 PM, and it came out His Ascendant as Libra. So,different birth time would give different result of Ascendant? The output of the synastry would be totally different?

What to do if We don't know the exact time of our partner? I have asked him this and he really doesn't know.

posted April 29, 2019 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by winnertivanigrace:
It's so kind of you to read my whole synastry. Thanks a million! 😊😊

Sorry for making you confused
I think i might have put different birth time for the grid chart since I got them from different site. I actually don't know his exact birth time so I always put 12.00 PM, and it came out His Ascendant as Libra. So,different birth time would give different result of Ascendant? The output of the synastry would be totally different?

What to do if We don't know the exact time of our partner? I have asked him this and he really doesn't know.

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posted April 30, 2019 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
You're welcome! <3
With different or unknown TOB you have different house overlays, and the ASC is unknown... So we can only see which houses of yours his planets fall to, but not the other way 'round... also, the Composite houses meaning might be different than how I have supposed. Btw, still the main aspects I've mentioned are there with their basic meaning, and the chart ruler should still be the same (Piesces 12th house).

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posted April 30, 2019 08:41 PM            

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Originally posted by winnertivanigrace:
What does it mean by Pisces 12th house as the chart ruler? can you please explain it any further? thanks

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It means that since the Comp. ASC is Piesces, planet Neptune is the Comp. chart ruler, and it shows the way the relationship expresses itself. Neptune is a karmic planet, it rules the subconscious and it might also point to spiritual and psychich areas and deep awareness, it is also about traveling (you mentioned the fact that you like traveling with him!), and it is especially romantic, it rules dreams, expectations, if bad aspected it is about illusion and disappointment... so basically it shows that your relationship is romantic, dreamy, and full of expectations. Piesces/Neptune is also about compassion and selflessness. Since the Comp. North Node is Piesces as well, and it is conjunct Mars, this is a main aspect and it suggests that the relationship has a potential for growing up in an exciting way (Mars). Neptune though is also opposite Chiron and opposite Moon, this looks a little frustrating, it can give sadness and disappointment, since it is in 11th house, I think it says that things work better if you stay grounded cause you might see the relationship in a too idealistic way and therefore you might get disappointed. So it all basically says to stay grounded and at the same time to take the relationship in an easier outgoing way, avoiding the Saturn burden which looks a little too "serious" and might waste the romance... Uranus oppositions are not stable, it all can be exiting and romantic, but it can also easily give instability, so you have basically to find a balance between romance and expectations.

posted April 30, 2019 09:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
It means that since the Comp. ASC is Piesces, planet Neptune is the Comp. chart ruler, and it shows the way the relationship expresses itself. Neptune is a karmic planet, it rules the subconscious and it might also point to spiritual and psychich areas and deep awareness, it is also about traveling (you mentioned the fact that you like traveling with him!), and it is especially romantic, it rules dreams, expectations, if bad aspected it is about illusion and disappointment... so basically it shows that your relationship is romantic, dreamy, and full of expectations. Piesces/Neptune is also about compassion and selflessness. Since the Comp. North Node is Piesces as well, and it is conjunct Mars, this is a main aspect and it suggests that the relationship has a potential for growing up in an exciting way (Mars). Neptune though is also opposite Chiron and opposite Moon, this looks a little frustrating, it can give sadness and disappointment, since it is in 11th house, I think it says that things work better if you stay grounded cause you might see the relationship in a too idealistic way and therefore you might get disappointed. So it all basically says to stay grounded and at the same time to take the relationship in an easier outgoing way, avoiding the Saturn burden which looks a little too "serious" and might waste the romance... Uranus oppositions are not stable, it all can be exiting and romantic, but it can also easily give instability, so you have basically to find a balance between romance and expectations.

Edit: as I said, whether the TOB is not correct, the houses might not be correct either, but those placements are still pointing those areas and issues.

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Thanks alot, dear!
Thanks for reminding me. It explains all, why I have this high expectation for our relationship. I demand him a lot. I kinda push him in our relationship.
I kept asking him if he's still in love with me. He kept saying "of course yes.." Then I complained a lot for him not being like this and not being like that which i think he's supposed to do. He thinks whatever he does never satisfy me. and It frustates him. and yes it waste romance. I just did it again few days ago and now he is being distant again and he's not talking to me

posted April 30, 2019 10:36 PM            

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Originally posted by winnertivanigrace:

Thanks alot, dear!
Thanks for reminding me. It explains all, why I have this high expectation for our relationship. I demand him a lot. I kinda push him in our relationship.
I kept asking him if he's still in love with me. He kept saying "of course yes.." Then I complained a lot for him not being like this and not being like that which i think he's supposed to do. He thinks whatever he does never satisfy me. and It frustates him. and yes it waste romance. I just did it again few days ago and now he is being distant again and he's not talking to me

Thanks a lot. I hope i could check this attitude of me for having "too much saturn and too much neptune" in time.

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