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Stoika7
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posted August 10, 2019 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi LunaIscariot!! Here are the charts with the guy I was talking about in Winner's thread 😊 Thanks a lot in case you will want to give your insight!💕

Synastry (me inside) http://imgur.com/aDiOvR6

Composite http://imgur.com/jokmvl1

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posted August 11, 2019 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Stoika....just jumped in to say I feel for you.
I hate to say that I foresee myself unable to let go of mine for a very long time too 😢
I see you have sn/chiron with him. This must have brought up a lot of pain? Venus/chiron in the composite. Did you feel you could heal one another?
Pluto/Saturn square ouch..

Are you still in touch?

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posted August 11, 2019 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh Stoika....just jumped in to say I feel for you.
I hate to say that I foresee myself unable to let go of mine for a very long time too 😢
I see you have sn/chiron with him. This must have brought up a lot of pain? Venus/chiron in the composite. Did you feel you could heal one another?
Pluto/Saturn square ouch..

Are you still in touch?


Hi dearest, thank you for the lovely message ❤️
Yes, it was quite painful for me, but weirdly he healed me at the same time, cause he gave me a lot of willpower to fight against a longtime serious health problem... no, I haven't been in touch since a while, cause he's in another rs... few days ago I was informed he got married last week 😔
I feel you as well sweetie!! Stay strong, I'm sure there is a way out, no pain can last forever! Life can change and we must be open for better things to come! ❤️

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posted August 11, 2019 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stoika, EmGem, 😊 💕

I never thought in a million years I'd be in this position but I can assure you there's a way out, it's just difficult to actually want it.

I talked about this relationship I struggled so much to let go off more with Stoika on another thread, it took years and you know?. That's ******* fine!

Our society has made people disposable and relationships as well but we're allowed to be true enough to really love others and commit and yes, when you're this way, you don't just move on by moaning about them for an hour over a pint. It takes a whole re-evaluation of your persona, lots of work, time too, and then eventually it's like the ring of power that can only be destroyed from the fiery chasm whence it came from.
Some parts will only be truly healed when you get to reapply them in other relationships.

All of it is ok, pain is not always a bad thing, it goes with healing and not wanting to let go when you feel if you did you'd let go of hope too, excuse me but that's survival instinct, so I don't care that this society is too soft and uptight for Pluto (honestly it could use it when you see the toxic state of the world, a little regeneration wouldn't hurt in the long run) or has a xenophobic reaction to Chiron, those are amazing energies to have and experience and imply a depth and will to live that most people fail to connect with out of fear.

These relationships are difficult to let go off because they're intertwined in our cores and we feel that by letting go of that one person we let go of Love, of Hope, of Healing, we fail at something bigger... dissecting that gossamer takes time and energy and it's ok to take it and do that work.

You're both strong and brave and beautiful, ache as long as you must, just don't forget to pay attention to the lovely things around, one day you'll begin to leave the pain home, then in a closet, then you'll lose a lot of it, but as long as it is such a huge part of yourself, don't amputate, accept yourself, you're worth it

Stoika, you will find your way to those things again because you'll realise they are in you and have always been, you're denying yourself those because as you've so aptly said it feels like betraying this love. It isn't, it is celebrating it, these things are where that love comes from, not the other way around. xx

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posted August 11, 2019 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Stoika, EmGem, 😊 💕

I never thought in a million years I'd be in this position but I can assure you there's a way out, it's just difficult to actually want it.

I talked about this relationship I struggled so much to let go off more with Stoika on another thread, it took years and you know?. That's ******* fine!

Our society has made people disposable and relationships as well but we're allowed to be true enough to really love others and commit and yes, when you're this way, you don't just move on by moaning about them for an hour over a pint. It takes a whole re-evaluation of your persona, lots of work, time too, and then eventually it's like the ring of power that can only be destroyed from the fiery chasm whence it came from.
Some parts will only be truly healed when you get to reapply them in other relationships.

All of it is ok, pain is not always a bad thing, it goes with healing and not wanting to let go when you feel if you did you'd let go of hope too, excuse me but that's survival instinct, so I don't care that this society is too soft and uptight for Pluto (honestly it could use it when you see the toxic state of the world, a little regeneration wouldn't hurt in the long run) or has a xenophobic reaction to Chiron, those are amazing energies to have and experience and imply a depth and will to live that most people fail to connect with out of fear.

These relationships are difficult to let go off because they're intertwined in our cores and we feel that by letting go of that one person we let go of Love, of Hope, of Healing, we fail at something bigger... dissecting that gossamer takes time and energy and it's ok to take it and do that work.

You're both strong and brave and beautiful, ache as long as you must, just don't forget to pay attention to the lovely things around, one day you'll begin to leave the pain home, then in a closet, then you'll lose a lot of it, but as long as it is such a huge part of yourself, don't amputate, accept yourself, you're worth it

Stoika, you will find your way to those things again because you'll realise they are in you and have always been, you're denying yourself those because as you've so aptly said it feels like betraying this love. It isn't, it is celebrating it, these things are where that love comes from, not the other way around. xx


Dear Moonbeth, thank you so much for this!! 💕 Actually, I'm not denying those things... loving him helped me to find those things and myself again, which I had lost before in the darkness... I just cant seem to carry on those things without the feelings I still have for him... anytime I tried to forget him, I had to face my emptiness, darkness and total lack of creativity and motivation. So, I'm aware it's that emptiness that I need to fill on my own without the need to love someone else! But you're completely right when you say, "these things are where that love comes from, not the other way around." Cant thank you enough for having said so ❤️

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posted August 11, 2019 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stoika, gosh I am so sorry. The news of his marriage must have been dreadful for you. I can imagine that heart wrenching feeling. What has helped me is complete and utter surrender. I give my rs with him to God and he takes care of it, however that means. But it’s always for your highest good. Total surrender of the ego.
It kinda feels like the vibe of a TF the way you describe it. Sending you so much love ❤️

@moonbeth, thank you dear 🙏❤️

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posted August 11, 2019 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 12, 2019 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Dear Moonbeth, thank you so much for this!! 💕 Actually, I'm not denying those things... loving him helped me to find those things and myself again, which I had lost before in the darkness... I just cant seem to carry on those things without the feelings I still have for him... anytime I tried to forget him, I had to face my emptiness, darkness and total lack of creativity and motivation. So, I'm aware it's that emptiness that I need to fill on my own without the need to love someone else! But you're completely right when you say, "these things are where that love comes from, not the other way around." Cant thank you enough for having said so ❤️

I'm sorry, yes, that is what I meant somehow these things are linked to the love and it seems impossible to carry them on without him... I'm very happy you singled out this sentence, this I feel is exactly the key and I hope very much you get to use it Stoika, in your own time, and if you ever need to pour out... ❤️

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posted August 17, 2019 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Stoika, gosh I am so sorry. The news of his marriage must have been dreadful for you. I can imagine that heart wrenching feeling. What has helped me is complete and utter surrender. I give my rs with him to God and he takes care of it, however that means. But it’s always for your highest good. Total surrender of the ego.
It kinda feels like the vibe of a TF the way you describe it. Sending you so much love ❤️

@moonbeth, thank you dear 🙏❤️


Hi lovely, I'm replying here to you cause I don't want to "hijack" dribaby's post!

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Stoika, did he flee because your connection was too intense? Do you feel him in the spiritual realm?
I’m sorry, I don’t remember your story now :/

You've mentioned the TF rs... I dont know, I dont think I believe in TF! But I understand what you mean and it makes sense...
When I met him, he was dating this person already since just a few days... it was love at first sight, very intense... since then, we had a strong telepathic connection and the crazy synchronicities started... It was amazing and I was a little shocked by such a powerful psychic connection, it was the first time I ever experienced such an other wordly connection... The fact is that at the same time, he "ghosted" me, with no apparent reason, while our psychic connection is still lasting since three years... he completely devoted himself to this girlfriend, who is now his wife, and no longer talked to me neither replied to my messages... I am still wondering about this all, since I never even showed him I was in love with him, we just had an artistic connection and I just tried to share with him the story of the book he had inspired me to write, but he never gave me a feedback since then and I stopped trying to be in contact since he never replied, two years ago... even though, I still feel the psychic connection, somehow keeping me stuck to him.

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posted August 18, 2019 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh girl! Did he admit to this connection also? ❤️
Did anything physically happen between you both?

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posted August 18, 2019 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
You've mentioned the TF rs... I dont know, I dont think I believe in TF! But I understand what you mean and it makes sense...
When I met him, he was dating this person already since just a few days... it was love at first sight, very intense... since then, we had a strong telepathic connection and the crazy synchronicities started... It was amazing and I was a little shocked by such a powerful psychic connection, it was the first time I ever experienced such an other wordly connection... The fact is that at the same time, he "ghosted" me, with no apparent reason, while our psychic connection is still lasting since three years... he completely devoted himself to this girlfriend, who is now his wife, and no longer talked to me neither replied to my messages... I am still wondering about this all, since I never even showed him I was in love with him, we just had an artistic connection and I just tried to share with him the story of the book he had inspired me to write, but he never gave me a feedback since then and I stopped trying to be in contact since he never replied, two years ago... even though, I still feel the psychic connection, somehow keeping me stuck to him.

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Awww Stoika ❤️❤️❤️
It sounds so much like he got scared and handled it very drastically

If not already done, write that story, finish the book and publish it.
Pour out your feelings in there, after everything you've said I'm convinced this is what you're supposed to do with this.❤️❤️❤️

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posted August 18, 2019 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stoika, have you had any dreams relating to this person?

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posted August 18, 2019 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Awww Stoika ❤️❤️❤️
It sounds so much like he got scared and handled it very drastically

If not already done, write that story, finish the book and publish it.
Pour out your feelings in there, after everything you've said I'm convinced this is what you're supposed to do with this.❤️❤️❤️


Hi dear Moonbeth, I did publish the book two years ago... When I did, I wrote him a message to say thanks, cause he had inspired the main character of the novel, so I explained to him how this book had saved my life and how he had inspired the character, and so I needed to share... I thought he would have appreciated this, on the contrary he ghosted me and left me very upset and disappointed... I mean, there was no reason to ghost me or to be scared, he knows who I am... Btw, after a few months, I happened to walk by his house without knowing where he lived, I recognized the house and tha gate from his pics on instagram, I looked at the window and I saw him... This was again a weird coincidence, to find his house by chance! So after a while, knowing his address, I decided to send him the book with dedication... but he never gave a feedback and never heard from him again....
Yes, I do dream of him all the time...
@EmGem, no, nothing physical ever happened between us, just our first meeting was very intense and I always had the feeling to deeply know this person already... I have been dreaming events and then found out those things were occurring in his life... He has been writing things on fb that were written in my book before he even knew I had written a book... He has been posting pictures of things I was experiencing in that same moment, lots of crazy synchronicities every day... I have no logical explanation but other people confirmed those synchronicities between us so I know it wasnt my crazy imagination... I just know I cant stop thinking about him and feeling in love with him....
Thank you for sharing lovely friends! <3

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posted August 18, 2019 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi dear Moonbeth, I did publish the book two years ago... When I did, I wrote him a message to say thanks, cause he had inspired the main character of the novel, so I explained to him how this book had saved my life and how he had inspired the character, and so I needed to share... I thought he would have appreciated this, on the contrary he ghosted me and left me very upset and disappointed... I mean, there was no reason to ghost me or to be scared, he knows who I am... Btw, after a few months, I happened to walk by his house without knowing where he lived, I recognized the house and tha gate from his pics on instagram, I looked at the window and I saw him... This was again a weird coincidence, to find his house by chance! So after a while, knowing his address, I decided to send him the book with dedication... but he never gave a feedback and never heard from him again....
Yes, I do dream of him all the time...
@EmGem, no, nothing physical ever happened between us, just our first meeting was very intense and I always had the feeling to deeply know this person already... I have been dreaming events and then found out those things were occurring in his life... He has been writing things on fb that were written in my book before he even knew I had written a book... He has been posting pictures of things I was experiencing in that same moment, lots of crazy synchronicities every day... I have no logical explanation but other people confirmed those synchronicities between us so I know it wasnt my crazy imagination... I just know I cant stop thinking about him and feeling in love with him....
Thank you for sharing lovely friends! <3


This could be TF-related. I am no expert but I will help you look at the asteroids after my dissertation is done.

Regardless what this is, but ESPECIALLY if it is TF: You MUST focus on your own healing now. Identify the core ancestral/family wound he has triggered in you, MEDITATE into it and find - in time - it is polishing your self-awareness.
In time you will be able to see the intended communication reflect back to you.

This friction is not about You and Him, but about clarifying your emotional muscle memories so that you can step into your true power and unconditional self-love.

Unconditional Self-Love is the goal here.

This is indeed about breaking your heart until it fully opens.

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posted August 18, 2019 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi dear Moonbeth, I did publish the book two years ago... When I did, I wrote him a message to say thanks, cause he had inspired the main character of the novel, so I explained to him how this book had saved my life and how he had inspired the character, and so I needed to share... I thought he would have appreciated this, on the contrary he ghosted me and left me very upset and disappointed... I mean, there was no reason to ghost me or to be scared, he knows who I am... Btw, after a few months, I happened to walk by his house without knowing where he lived, I recognized the house and tha gate from his pics on instagram, I looked at the window and I saw him... This was again a weird coincidence, to find his house by chance! So after a while, knowing his address, I decided to send him the book with dedication... but he never gave a feedback and never heard from him again....
Yes, I do dream of him all the time...
<3

My lovely Stoika
When I say you're a rockstar! <3<3<3
You're so amazing for publishing that book, you star
This is difficult because I SO understand where you're from and so see your innocent position and how you only acted with love and gratefulness that to you were very controlled and watered down, mild, but at the same time, I do understand how it could still have felt too much for him and too intense.
What is easily gotten from thanking him for inspiring the character in the book that saved your life is that "he" saved your life and no, no one appreciates that (unless they have some megalomaniac fetish).
Transpose this to a getting a child out of a car after a crash. The parents are so thankful they invite you over for tea. Would you feel like going? I know I wouldn't. I would accept a cuppa on the moment, waiting at the ER with other victims and getting thanks, maybe even a hug if they're really emotional and I'm quite unscathed myself, but out of that, no. It's too big, too intense, too intimate, too strong, you can't do "normal" with something so massive in the way and since it's not a private intimate relationship, it feels inappropriate. I mean, their child's life isn't worth a meal so offering one does nothing (unless you're homeless and could use the free meal) so why try and tip scales that aren't meant to be?.
It is probably the same reason why the default setting for transplantations isn't "families of dead donors meeting with the people who get the organs".
Even if you didn't say it, he probably felt your feelings for him, or at least felt the connection to you, (saying here's the book that saved my life whose main protagonist you've inspired me, sounds an awful love lot like "I love you" ^^) so the book probably came off as some sort of shrine, some really heavy push towards bigger feelings and also quite a big responsibility, I know it wasn't your intention, but it probably almost sounded like you couldn't live without him and so of course it would make him flee considering he was already seeing someone and obviously wasn't accepting your connexion.
Maybe he imagined that if he replied it would grow and had himself prone to nightmares in which you threatened to kill yourself if he didn't come to see you... of course this isn't what you were about, but somehow it also was on the threshold of that territory (and, I won't disclose in public but I have made pretty embarrassing statements myself that would make my own self run today lol Even though back then I meant no such thing).
And yes, there were reasons, he knew you but you weren't intimate (I don't mean physically here), it's always so upsetting when someone you trust and love doesn't see your soul and treats you with the same criteria you would apply to a stranger, but it's a testament to what they want from their interactions with you, maybe he projected some of his own feelings into his reaction. I remember a friend of mine ghosting a man because she knew he had feelings for her and she knew she'd give into those at some point but didn't want because she had a marriage that meant much to her... It's very Pluto to not conceive how its attention could *not* be appreciated, but it's very Venus to say "thank you, but no thank you". Your intention doesn't really matter, if you offer someone something they don't want or they don't feel ready for, or that inherently scares them, nothing else will matter, they will reject it.
You have to give him that, had he not ghosted you, this would even be harder. You'd get to see him in very distant manners that wouldn't satisfy your feelings towards him, so, yours and his feelings about each other being different pretty much makes no relationship possible. I think ghosting is rude, but at least it was straight to the point.
Same for the address thing, of course you became aware of it by pure happenstance and acted very innocently, and again, out of love and gratefulness, but imagine receiving something so personal from someone you have ghosted, at your doorstep; it can feel awfully invasive.
Writing and publishing a book is massive, saving your life is massive, you simply can't cancel any of those or diminish them by linking them to him only and making those dependant on the connection you have to him (it'd be like saying the fuel deserves the credit for winning the race. Without fuel the car wouldn't go far, but the race is mostly won by the pilot who aptly drives the car). They are bigger than any relationship, those are *your* achievements. You may not be ready to let him go, but you absolutely need to own those.
And you may need to write another book, who knows? It worked alright for that JK bint ;p

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posted August 18, 2019 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nomad-monad:

This could be TF-related. I am no expert but I will help you look at the asteroids after my dissertation is done.

Regardless what this is, but ESPECIALLY if it is TF: You MUST focus on your own healing now. Identify the core ancestral/family wound he has triggered in you, MEDITATE into it and find - in time - it is polishing your self-awareness.
In time you will be able to see the intended communication reflect back to you.

This friction is not about You and Him, but about clarifying your emotional muscle memories so that you can step into your true power and unconditional self-love.

Unconditional Self-Love is the goal here.

This is indeed about breaking your heart until it fully opens.


Hi dear Nomad ❤️
Thank you so much! I know what you're talking about... I have been focusing about my how healing, all the time... I think I have got a lot of awareness through this whole story, but my situation is a little harsh on my daily life, cause my chronic health problem makes everything very harsh... for me, having to quit playing music , which was my main life motivation since I was born and for fourty years, was like dying and after a long depression, even sucidial, I had to create a "new" myself... it wasnt an easy process, but writing and becoming a writer was entirely part of this... now I am aware I'm not completeley healed, in the sense you mean it, nor in the physical sense, I'm still in the process... I was told that synchronicities might happen to suggest you're going to the right direction, so I tried to take all this in a positive way, cause I felt he also was part of this healing process of mine, even though he doesn't even know. But I cant deny that it hurts me not having being able to really share all this with him and that he hurted me for ghosting me, being rude somehow, I think, with no reason... I only know that he's a very faithful man, that before meeting this girl, his actual wife, he had suffered for long after he broke up with his longtime ex girlfriend, and that he needed to be happy again... he seems to have found such happyness with this woman, and I am happy for him, even though I still feel there's something unsolved between us, that my love for him is endless and unconditional, I just dont understand what our psychic connection is about and why he rejected me while still being connected to me in another "dimension"... I never believed in things like reincarnation before, I was a complete atheist and skeptical person my whole life, until those things happened with this person, so this is why I'm still trying to find the meaning of this... I am aware that it all might just be about myself and my own awareness, and it certainly was it. But the fact that he actually "talked" to me, constantly, on a telepathic level, for so long, and he still does, must also have a meaning, I think. I just feel I cant give up on this, I need to know what this is really about, other than my own life path and awareness, between him and me.
Thank you!!

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posted August 18, 2019 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nomad-monad:

This could be TF-related. I am no expert but I will help you look at the asteroids after my dissertation is done.

Regardless what this is, but ESPECIALLY if it is TF: You MUST focus on your own healing now. Identify the core ancestral/family wound he has triggered in you, MEDITATE into it and find - in time - it is polishing your self-awareness.
In time you will be able to see the intended communication reflect back to you.

This friction is not about You and Him, but about clarifying your emotional muscle memories so that you can step into your true power and unconditional self-love.

Unconditional Self-Love is the goal here.

This is indeed about breaking your heart until it fully opens.


Completely agree 💯

Stoika, this sounds very much TF. Once you heal yourself, the destiny that is meant to happen with this man (whatever that may be) will reveal itself as things should start to unfold very quickly. But only once you have become whole (as much as we can these days).

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posted August 18, 2019 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My lovely Stoika
When I say you're a rockstar! <3<3<3
You're so amazing for publishing that book, you star
This is difficult because I SO understand where you're from and so see your innocent position and how you only acted with love and gratefulness that to you were very controlled and watered down, mild, but at the same time, I do understand how it could still have felt too much for him and too intense.
What is easily gotten from thanking him for inspiring the character in the book that saved your life is that "he" saved your life and no, no one appreciates that (unless they have some megalomaniac fetish).
Transpose this to a getting a child out of a car after a crash. The parents are so thankful they invite you over for tea. Would you feel like going? I know I wouldn't. I would accept a cuppa on the moment, waiting at the ER with other victims and getting thanks, maybe even a hug if they're really emotional and I'm quite unscathed myself, but out of that, no. It's too big, too intense, too intimate, too strong, you can't do "normal" with something so massive in the way and since it's not a private intimate relationship, it feels inappropriate. I mean, their child's life isn't worth a meal so offering one does nothing (unless you're homeless and could use the free meal) so why try and tip scales that aren't meant to be?.
It is probably the same reason why the default setting for transplantations isn't "families of dead donors meeting with the people who get the organs".
Even if you didn't say it, he probably felt your feelings for him, or at least felt the connection to you, (saying here's the book that saved my life whose main protagonist you've inspired me, sounds an awful love lot like "I love you" ^^) so the book probably came off as some sort of shrine, some really heavy push towards bigger feelings and also quite a big responsibility, I know it wasn't your intention, but it probably almost sounded like you couldn't live without him and so of course it would make him flee considering he was already seeing someone and obviously wasn't accepting your connexion.
Maybe he imagined that if he replied it would grow and had himself prone to nightmares in which you threatened to kill yourself if he didn't come to see you... of course this isn't what you were about, but somehow it also was on the threshold of that territory (and, I won't disclose in public but I have made pretty embarrassing statements myself that would make my own self run today lol Even though back then I meant no such thing).
And yes, there were reasons, he knew you but you weren't intimate (I don't mean physically here), it's always so upsetting when someone you trust and love doesn't see your soul and treats you with the same criteria you would apply to a stranger, but it's a testament to what they want from their interactions with you, maybe he projected some of his own feelings into his reaction. I remember a friend of mine ghosting a man because she knew he had feelings for her and she knew she'd give into those at some point but didn't want because she had a marriage that meant much to her... It's very Pluto to not conceive how its attention could *not* be appreciated, but it's very Venus to say "thank you, but no thank you". Your intention doesn't really matter, if you offer someone something they don't want or they don't feel ready for, or that inherently scares them, nothing else will matter, they will reject it.
You have to give him that, had he not ghosted you, this would even be harder. You'd get to see him in very distant manners that wouldn't satisfy your feelings towards him, so, yours and his feelings about each other being different pretty much makes no relationship possible. I think ghosting is rude, but at least it was straight to the point.
Same for the address thing, of course you became aware of it by pure happenstance and acted very innocently, and again, out of love and gratefulness, but imagine receiving something so personal from someone you have ghosted, at your doorstep; it can feel awfully invasive.
Writing and publishing a book is massive, saving your life is massive, you simply can't cancel any of those or diminish them by linking them to him only and making those dependant on the connection you have to him (it'd be like saying the fuel deserves the credit for winning the race. Without fuel the car wouldn't go far, but the race is mostly won by the pilot who aptly drives the car). They are bigger than any relationship, those are *your* achievements. You may not be ready to let him go, but you absolutely need to own those.
And you may need to write another book, who knows? It worked alright for that JK bint ;p

Lovely Moonbeth, your words are always full of wisdom! ❤️
It is so good for me to have opinions like yours 'cause it's a different perspective that can actually be his perspective as well, maybe, or just a possibility I haven't considered of course. So I mean, it is very possible that he felt exactly as you said, and I actually have even considered such a point of view, but the fact that we had such a telepathic connection always puzzled me and so his behaviour looked completely contradictory, suggesting me only that he didnt want to get in trouble with his new gf (at the time) and that's all. But, as I said, you might be very well right instead. Just want to say that I was careful in how I was writing him about the book, exactly cause I didnt want to give him such a "burden" (saved my life), the main point was that writing the book had given me new motivation, and that since he had inspired the character I would have been happy to give him the book... Of course we all have different sensitiveness, but I mean, it wasnt put as such a big deal as "you have saved my life", and in his shoes, with the intense exchange we already had, not to mention the synchronicities and all, I would have been happy to reply, curious to read the book, I would have wanted to hear more about it, and so on... so this is why I think he was rude and contradictory!
Btw, yes, I did write and publish another book after that one, LOL

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posted August 18, 2019 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Completely agree 💯

Stoika, this sounds very much TF. Once you heal yourself, the destiny that is meant to happen with this man (whatever that may be) will reveal itself as things should start to unfold very quickly. But only once you have become whole (as much as we can these days).


You two have almost convinced me! 😍
No kidding, you're cheering me up so well, I mean, there's still hope that it all has a meaning then, in this life... thank you ❤️ and especially wonderful people like you! ❤️

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Lovely Moonbeth, your words are always full of wisdom! ❤️
It is so good for me to have opinions like yours 'cause it's a different perspective that can actually be his perspective as well, maybe, or just a possibility I haven't considered of course. So I mean, it is very possible that he felt exactly as you said, and I actually have even considered such a point of view, but the fact that we had such a telepathic connection always puzzled me and so his behaviour looked completely contradictory, suggesting me only that he didnt want to get in trouble with his new gf (at the time) and that's all. But, as I said, you might be very well right instead. Just want to say that I was careful in how I was writing him about the book, exactly cause I didnt want to give him such a "burden" (saved my life), the main point was that writing the book had given me new motivation, and that since he had inspired the character I would have been happy to give him the book... Of course we all have different sensitiveness, but I mean, it wasnt put as such a big deal as "you have saved my life", and in his shoes, with the intense exchange we already had, not to mention the synchronicities and all, I would have been happy to reply, curious to read the book, I would have wanted to hear more about it, and so on... so this is why I think he was rude and contradictory!
Btw, yes, I did write and publish another book after that one, LOL

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Awww Stoika, I'm glad you get where I'm from <3
I love playing devil's advocate because I feel that by putting myself in others' shoes I get perspective in ways that aren't blaming; it's not about one being right and the other wrong but about how two rights can still make one wrong and it being fine, whether solvable or not (it's not always how I think, more like a mental gymnastic I practise).
Maybe he felt exactly like I imagine he could have, maybe he simply felt his relationship was threatened and reacted with that only in mind, both make sense, what matters is that the "disagreement" between you is contextual, it's about the relationship and not some mean personal thing where he intended to hurt you, which to me is the important part.
Sometimes a strong connection does bring a lot of misunderstandings too and misreading. When you're so used with things flowing with someone, you take your eyes off the ball, drop it even, you may begin to assume instead of asking for clarifications because you're so used to getting it right without trying, but even the most telepathic of rapport will require communication (verbal or otherwise) and fatigue, stress.... will come to impact that.
If you had had a relationship with him you probably would have had that moment when you realise that soul mate feelings don't exempt you from having to work at the relationship and the very same way, I think right now you're in a phase where you realise that what you communicated then may not have been clearly heard despite the connection.

The connection isn't incompatible with him misreading you, if he felt his relationship with his girlfriend was threatened it may have lead him to read your gestures as overbearing, intrusive and overwhelming.

Again, I hundred percent trust that you acted very gracefully and respectfully, I just think that in the context, him knowing how you felt came into the mix and whether it triggered what I suggested or something else, it decidedly was an extra element you had no control over and so shouldn't torment yourself with for its part in his decision to cease contact with you.

This is the most important thing. You shouldn't punish yourself for the ghosting. It happened and it wasn't justified, meaning something got lost in translation and that's nothing to beat yourself over with, only something to be sad about and mourn.
Ghosting is very brutal and a violent way to react (unless done to a stranger, which wasn't the case here). I don't think you ghost people who leave you indifferent, you ghost people you feel overpowered by, people you don't trust yourself around. It's not about you; it's about him and his reaction to you.

I still don't think it's contradictory (rude, yes lol ghosting is rude, the only excuse I have for it is when you do it because you feel in physical danger and that's what 0.001% ,of occurrences, he clearly doesn't get that pass!). As I've said, you don't take into account the fact that we do feel others as much as we talk with them and with a connection like yours, I'm quite convinced he knew how you felt and probably the fact you didn't say anything about it allowed him to give it more weight (after all, he had no way to know if you were hiding it out of respect for his relationship, because you didn't want to act on it or if you were working an angle.... possibilities are plenty), so that's a big wild card in his decision making process that we don't have access to because you two didn't communicate about it and it probably fills in the gaps and makes it all clear.
But that doesn't matter at that point, what matters is even if he had been an uncouth and contradictory person, it's not on you and you have nothing to blame yourself about.
It could also simply be that he's one of these people who simply doesn't appreciate how precious a connection to someone else is. It happens.
We all try to find sense after a break-up or bad experience, sometimes there is none and it's harder to accept that than to understand "why".
O my!!!! Stoika you are unstoppable, you obviously need no one to create or shine
If you still feel this relationship is still heavily linked to your writing, why not make a whole series, write the story with different angles, in one version he's the villain and a cold manipulator, in another you're star crossed lover, once you are the psycho, next he is a victim of his evil queen gf, you may even write the one where you end up together... really though, art is Plutonian emotions' best friend
ps: I read what you wrote to ralmeida22 on her thread, loved every word of it, very respectful and sound suggestions

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Stoika, I would suggest having your composite read by Todd, unless you have already? Would be interesting to see his perspective and if anything might come to pass soon...xo

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posted August 19, 2019 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Awww Stoika, I'm glad you get where I'm from <3
I love playing devil's advocate because I feel that by putting myself in others' shoes I get perspective in ways that aren't blaming; it's not about one being right and the other wrong but about how two rights can still make one wrong and it being fine, whether solvable or not (it's not always how I think, more like a mental gymnastic I practise).
Maybe he felt exactly like I imagine he could have, maybe he simply felt his relationship was threatened and reacted with that only in mind, both make sense, what matters is that the "disagreement" between you is contextual, it's about the relationship and not some mean personal thing where he intended to hurt you, which to me is the important part.
Sometimes a strong connection does bring a lot of misunderstandings too and misreading. When you're so used with things flowing with someone, you take your eyes off the ball, drop it even, you may begin to assume instead of asking for clarifications because you're so used to getting it right without trying, but even the most telepathic of rapport will require communication (verbal or otherwise) and fatigue, stress.... will come to impact that.
If you had had a relationship with him you probably would have had that moment when you realise that soul mate feelings don't exempt you from having to work at the relationship and the very same way, I think right now you're in a phase where you realise that what you communicated then may not have been clearly heard despite the connection.

This is sooo true, I know! I had three longtime rs, one of those we were married for 18 years, and believe me, this is exactly what used to happen, no matter the deep connection and knowledge of each other, we just had lots of misunderstandings all the time, LOL
So it is obviously so much more possible with someone who is not even so intimate...
But yes, I know he didnt mean to hurt me, I know cause I know he has a good heart (otherwise I would not love him of course!)... I honestly think it all happened in the wrong time, with me having my issues and he having this new gf after long time and... being a Taurus guy, you know, once they take one direction, they just see nothing else, LOL
Even so, I say he was contraddictory 'cause after I sent the book and only after that, he went to check for my message on fb, which he hadnt seen before... so I finally found out my last message was viewed the day he received the book, after a few months I had sent it... I tell you this 'cause I cant forget his gaze when we met the first time, the way he talked to me... I mean, I felt the attraction was mutual and he gave other signs after that... so honetsly my impression is that yes, he didnt want to threaten this new rs he had, but just because we live in two different countries, and it all would have been quite difficult, this is what I actually believe... And, no, I dont blame myself at all!! The only thing I blame myself about is that I didnt knock his door that same day I had found his house by chance, in one of the largest towns in europe, where he lives... since at that time he had just met this gf since few days, and who knows, if I had the guts to knock his door that day, everything might have been different!
But well, of course he made his choice, and he chose her, not me...
Btw, I have never ghosted anyone in my life, 'cept for stalkers of course, LOL! so I dont really understand this, and so considering the whole situation, I have come up with the idea that he was scared not by me, but from what he felt for me. I could be wrong of course, since I have no real evidence of this, it is just what I have been deeply feeling and it pxxxxs me off! (I mean, if he felt my feelings as you suggest, even though I never showed him at all, then I might feel his feelings as well, given the psychic connection we have?)

Fact is that whatever he feels, I have experienced this psychic connection developing powerfully and keeping me stuck to him, especially any time I was trying to forget him, some new synchronicity happened between us... they have been many and incredible, until even yesterday, when he posted a picture again showing exact links to the story of my book (other times he wrote exact sentences written in my book, when he didnt even know such book existed).... it is crazy, believe me. I have even stopped wondering about this, I have got used to such madness between us. Like, for instance, I am swimming in a swimmingpool, and in that same moment he posts a picture of him swimming in a pool on instagram... or, I take my guitar and play a song called "Angel", and he posts a picture of the sign of a bar called "Angel, right in that moment... I happen to see a huge flock of birds flying over my car, and after few minutes he posts a picture of a huge flock of birds flying over his car... I write a scene of the character rescuing his black friend's life, and he posts a picture of him and a black friend of his, with the sentence "I saved this friend"... it's crazy, and it never ends, even though I havent talked to him since almost three years. Then he came and got married in my country... wth ?
He's not just connected to my writing, he's connected to my mind and daily life! Even if I wasnt in love with him, I swear God, I would do anything to find out what the hell is going on with this guy 😁
But yes, of course I do love him, and I dont even know why anymore... I'm not blaming myself that he ceased contacts, I'm tormented cause I'm still madly in love with him but things went in a different way and I didnt have the chance to see him again... cause I feel something has remained unsolved, and with my Taurus Moon/Aries Mars, I hate this! 😁

Btw, you're psychic too my lovely, since my novel is actually a saga, and I am writing the next book... ahaha, I dont think I can turn my character into someone rude or manipluated or anything other than my beloved hero! But in the former book I've published yes, he actually fell under the spell of this virtual sexy woman, putting him into big troubles, LOL

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posted August 19, 2019 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Stoika, I would suggest having your composite read by Todd, unless you have already? Would be interesting to see his perspective and if anything might come to pass soon...xo

Yes darling, Todd did it already!

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Yes darling, Todd did it already!


I’m curious to see what he wrote. Can you bump the thread?

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posted August 19, 2019 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I’m curious to see what he wrote. Can you bump the thread?

Yes, if you like! But it needs an explanation... since I am a quite messy clumsy Aquarius Sun/Piesces ASC... not long ago I realized that for a while I have been mistaking two charts with two people born on the same day, but in two different (close) years...!! One with HIM, one with another person I only know virtually... so when I asked Todd to read the chart, I was still convinced that this was the chart with the virtual person that I had saved in my computer, while this was the one with HIM instead... few days after Todd replyed and read the chart, I realized I had given the wrong chart and made a mess!!! So i basically felt ashamed and didnt want to annoy Todd again, cause he's so nice and always willing to help... Basically though, I think Todd still told me what I needed to know, that he is completely spot on, even though I gave him the wrong chart asking about the "virtual" person instead... this is why I have removed the links from the post... But the correct chart with HIM is the one I gave for Lunalscariot in this post, which Todd read for me at the following link... (Sorry for being such messed-up Aquarius!!)
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009324.html

Edit: actually... I'm thinking to inform Todd about the mess I made... to see what he thinks in terms of different background story of the chart (besides thinking I'm crazy, of course!)

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