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AriesLilith
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posted December 07, 2019 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello todd, can you help me analyze this situation and patterns regarding to a work relationship between my fellow team member and a boss of ours, as well as our multicomposite?

This looks a bit confusing because on the composite it seems to have nice aspects, but then Nessus and Orcus around the stellium plus a Saturn, Moon and Pluto tsquare?

On the other hand, the multicomposite is interesting because my name is conjunct the Sun, there seems to be a nice pattern, and their names (blue and red marks) have midpoint square the nodes. On the other hand, strangely mine and her names midpoint are opposed to Nemesis which is at Libra 19 degrees 29 (it wasn’t included in the chart because of the asteoids limits). I want to get along with her and I feel that we are a great team, but what can these symbols mean?

It’d be great if you can give me some insights on these mixed symbols. Thank you!

Their birth times are unknown. I apologize for the link not showing as images, but imagebb links seems not to work here. Can you open them?

Composite between them:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/5nBb0fG/668731-C6-8-FCB-42-E5-B069-E02681325-B61.jpg[/img]

Multicomposite:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/7YbTKSV/67648309-5-D1-F-44-C7-BE97-28-A71727-FAF8.jpg[/img]

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posted December 08, 2019 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 09, 2019 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the first composite is complicated for the reasons you mentioned. the pluto/moon et.al. squares seem contradictory to the favorable emotional aspects.

there seems to be a attraction between them with the mars/psyche midpoint conjunct the node, suggesting he is quite smitten with her. then with the sun conjunct to Venus they clearly have a mutual appreciation for each other. actually with lust conjunct the node,i would think they might even have a sexual relationship.
mercury trine the node shows that in spite of any emotional feelings they have a clear and rational understanding of each other and can communicate clearly and intelligently with each other.

with eros conjunct to Jupiter and trine to sun/Venus and opposed to Uranus, their professional; activity is highly rated. eros again shows the affection he has for her.

ceres conjunct to Lilith shows again an inherent sympathy and mutual respect .with psyhe he square to ceres, it is clear they are very comfortable with sharing intimate feelings with other.if they is they are married ,I have to wonder if the respective spouses are affected by this emotional relationship.
with juno sextile to Jupiter and the midpoint conjunct to Saturn, they hae aspects that can show they are married or would have a successful marriage.

of course they strange aspect is the moon/-Pluto/Saturn/orcus cross.
this could show,in spite of their closeness ,they keep their deep feelings to themselves. ixion square to the sun shows they can get under each others skin at times and can have severe differences.

the moon/orcus connection can manifest as a very strong loyalty with Saturn in the mix.
so even if there are disagreements, they will always support each other and watch out for each other.

it is a unusual melting pot, with obvious emotional and sexual attraction while operating in a business environment and being able to keep there personal feelings separated from their professional interactions on the job.

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posted December 10, 2019 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you todd for the insights on this composite. Actually I did sense affinity between them, and thinking about it I would say she may be very his type.
Perhaps what keeps it on the professional level only would be the age difference of almost 20 years, him being our boss and maybe some social/profissional implications.

What do you think of the tricomposite? I'd really love to hear your insights on it. I've been having a hard time feeling included in professional settings and bonding with people, as I want to bond with them and get along but sometimes feel distance. I want to make friends with her but feel that sometimes there is a distance, and I'm not sure if it has to do with our work. Thank you!

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posted December 10, 2019 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you need to clarify...nessus is on the chart and it is not at 19libra but your midpoints are square to 19libra.so what are you referring to that is at 19libra?


clearly she is on a power trip as her asteroid is conjunct to juno and the node,and orcus is opposed to her asteroid.

this is indicative of a power play by her. she is all about advancing her professional standing at any means. the composite sure looks like she is using she female "wiles " to cement her position. this factor will make it very hard for you to bond with them because she will what to keep him in very exclusive orbit.

the juno/her midpoints with Jupiter are square to eris which again hight lights her use of the sexual attraction to advance her professional standing, as this impulse is very strong in their composite, it is difficult not to see a sexual relationship now or in the future. so the question comes up again, is he married?

you are conjunct sun/venus/mars and opposed to Neptune/Jupiter as well as part of the grand trine with moon and pluto.you will be a positive element In the business especially as you add a creative outlook which he seems to lack with Saturn square the node. is this business concerned with public relations or such?
I would think that she is more conservative as she is trying to be aligned with his views and therefore doesn't add any suggestions that she knows he already is behind.

Uranus is square to the eros/psyche midpoint which again brings a sexual /emotional excitement. but he might be stogy enough to not respond...but I don't know.

mercury/Uranus midpoint is square to Jupiter, so do not push your ideas, put them out but down defend them especially if she takes exception or has another slant to the matter at hand.play it very professional and don't try to bond, let your work and creative input seek for it self.

the grand trine shows a harmonious potential but let her be the queen bee.

with him square to the Saturn/ixion conjunction, he doesn't like to be opposed.
so remember to offer but not to push your suggestions.

todd


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posted December 10, 2019 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you todd for the insights! At 19libra is the asteroid Nemesis (128). Should I be concerned??
Actually you helped on the composite between me and her some time ago (the first one): http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009153.html
I’d really feel sad if it comes to this kind of dynamic, where she actually uses her female appeal to climb up and disregard about others including me... I’m not one to open up easily, and I have been considering her as a possible friend. I opened up to her with some personal things, something I hardly did with any other coworker.
She is very attractive and feminine; they are both single right now.
I get the feeling he may not advance in professional settings, he seems mature and aware of sexual urges that he wouldn’t make such moves. At least of what I think. But then since she is very much his type and they have such emotional connection and successful business relation, there may be a possibility for them to get together. But do you think their emotional attraction is innocent or manipulative?? The symbols in their composite seemed so positive.

Actually you also helped with the composite between me and our boss back then (second one): http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/008924.html
Our chart also has some sexual attraction, although superficial (Eris/Eros and Psyche midpoint oppose Lust and square Venus and stuffs like that).

I wouldn’t want trouble, I just want to enjoy working. As you pointed out, my most appreciated skill is in the creativity. I earned my place with this, never really interested in competing my way up. If she wants to be the queen bee then she probably already is as I work on the solution building while she already manages the project itself along with him.

Just a final question, do you think he is innocent or also something I should worry about too?

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posted December 11, 2019 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

oh yea, I misread. nessus for nemesis.
well ,nemesis square your midpoint with her is extremely unfavorable ,it means she will always try to undermine you. so when she is acting the most agreeable or friendly, then you need to be on your guard. the grand trine in the tricomposite makes me think she will work well with you in business matters, but it when personal feeling arise or are perceived to arise(relating to the boss)that you must be most alert.

you might add all your named asteroids to their composite to get an idea how she will relate to you in regard to her relationship with the boss.

Just a final question, do you think he is innocent or also something I should worry about too?

the psyche/psyche node midpoint is opposed to your midpoint with him. this implies he is likely of thinking of you in "emotional "manner.in addition you are opposed to psyche so he has to have some emotional thoughts about you.

definitely confront any,even slight, emotional innuendos. keep it on a purely professional level. he is capable of trying to make her jealous though most likely it would only be inadvertently. you are at midheaven in the tricomposite. you are more important than she so you need to let her know subtlety that you are not a threat to her designs with him.

it is hard to tell with him as Saturn is conjunct ixion which can show a nature that thrives on contention between others.
so don't take any social/emotional familiarity with you has innocent on his part .
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posted December 11, 2019 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Come to think of it, there were a few occasions where she did put me in a though position and making our boss intervene in our matters. He was neutral thought. I wanted to see her as a friend, but I should stop being in denial.

I have included our names in their composite and my name is conjunct Orcus (not showing in this chart but is there) and is part of the grand cross involving Orcus, Saturn, Moon and Pluto. As Orcus is dark and controlling, am I being the bad guy here?? A negative influence?
[img]https://i.ibb.co/nkt54rd/33-E85-FAD-5-C4-C-4-ED2-B369-BA00-C48-FB149.jpg[/img]

Their birth times are unknown so the midheaven in the tricomposite is unknown.
Even so I can see why I can be more relevant than her on the professional level, because my skillset is more valuable at work.

I guess I will follow your advices and try to let her see I’m not a threat and keep some distance.

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posted December 11, 2019 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a weird fact to add to the thread: I was checking another thread in LL and saw Casanova and Henrietta story. Out of curiosity I checked these asteroids in the tricomposite and wow, Henrietta at 8Leo30 and Casanova at 10Aqua43!

So Henrietta is near our boss’s name and Casanova near her name and conjunct Node. Their names and these astroids midpoints are conjunct and square the Node.
In their composite, Casanova is conjunct her name.

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posted December 12, 2019 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
Come to think of it, there were a few occasions where she did put me in a though position and making our boss intervene in our matters. He was neutral thought. I wanted to see her as a friend, but I should stop being in denial.

I have included our names in their composite and my name is conjunct Orcus (not showing in this chart but is there) and is part of the grand cross involving Orcus, Saturn, Moon and Pluto. As Orcus is dark and controlling, am I being the bad guy here?? A negative influence?
[img]https://i.ibb.co/nkt54rd/33-E85-FAD-5-C4-C-4-ED2-B369-BA00-C48-FB149.jpg[/img]

Their birth times are unknown so the midheaven in the tricomposite is unknown.
Even so I can see why I can be more relevant than her on the professional level, because my skillset is more valuable at work.

I guess I will follow your advices and try to let her see I’m not a threat and keep some distance.


even without the correct midheaven,as you noted your skillset is more important than hers, as you are conjunct the Jupiter et.al opposition

with you conjunct to orcus, your presence may foment the expression of any latent t hostiles they have for each other, or more likely her hostilities as orcus/you is so close to his asteroid.

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posted December 24, 2019 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again todd, there is something that has been on my mind about this whole situation, but I was a bit hesitant to ask.

Despite understanding the possible dynamics, and seeing some situations that confirmed it, I still have “feelings” for my female coworker. A kind of “affection”, that somehow I’d understand why she would do what she did or does, empathetically/sensibly perhaps. It’s a kind of forgiving and understanding, but I’m not sure.
I included Sappho if it can be relevant.

Can you check our composite to see what exactly is this feeling? Somehow it seems a bit omnious since our names midpoint is around Nemesis. My name is the blue one and hers the green one.

But I can’t entirely understand what I’m feeling towards her. Is it just sympathy or more?

Thank you for your help and patience!

Here is our composite (without her birth time):

[img]https://i.ibb.co/9mPFVkb/D3-D291-D6-270-C-4998-9428-1-A88-DBD1-C04-B.jpg[/img]

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posted December 26, 2019 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi again AriesLilith

well off the top there is a strong if concealed sexual attraction as venus is opposed to pluto and lust is conjunct to Jupiter. this latter element could be inclusive of professional interactions as well as physical attraction. and with her asteroid square this opposition, I would have to believe this feeling is mutual. in addition your asteroid is square to eris wch again is extremely sexual and can be compulsive.

Sappho opposed to true Lilith certainly indicates a full sexual/emotional attraction between you.

with the mars and moon midpoints with venus conjunct the sun, the chemistry is quite obvious to those around you as well as yourselves.

with Lilith conjunct to the node and Sappho conjunct to nessus, your sexual attraction to each other has to do with the abusive experiences you have both had with men as much as your attraction to woman.

I mention this because mars/moon is still opposed to nemesis which suggest that the contradistinction between experiences with men and women could still be a dangerous psychological dynamic if it is not really conscious or resolved in her personality structure .

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posted December 26, 2019 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you todd for your insights!
I’ve been feeling a certain sexual attraction towards her indeed, it made me wonder if because she is really attractive or something more personal. With all these symbols, I guess it’s really chemistry between us.

I think that you’re onto something when you mentioned that our attraction may have to do with past abuse experience. I do feel that I have some unhealthy “pattern” regarding to what I find attractive with women, I kind of feel turned on by certain coersive situations (but not too much). I guess that I’ll need to work on these in therapy too.
In my chart, Nessus and Sappho (conjunct Lust) midpoint are conjunct AC, and Sappho/Lust are square Uranus/Dejanira and Vertex mipdpoints (Vertex and Uranus/Dejanira are close, around 8degrees diference). Maybe it shows something about this pattern?

Can you help me understand better about the contradistinction between male and female experience she may need to balance?

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posted December 27, 2019 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can you help me understand better about the contradistinction between male and female experience she may need to balance?[/B]

the potential psychological problem is that she is repressing her feelings to the males abusive dynamic. instead of working out the negative emotional results, she may identify with the male. that is she may see the male as have done nothing wrong.in this case the subconscious hostility would be transferred toward her feelings about women...even is she had sexual feelings for other women she would not feel these in a positive light because of her blocks and she would see the reciprocation of these feelings as a destructive impulses.

I bring this up because in both the tricomposite and your composite with her.....she seems to your nemesis. why if she have attractive emotional or sexual feelings would she continue to be an antagonist to you.

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