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Saggy7
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posted January 02, 2020 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone,

I have posted about this person once before and I have received some feedback which wasnt very pleasant to hear, but I would rather not bring that up in this first post.
Today I am distraught, Im emotional, Im hurt, I dont know what to do and how to move on from this man and this "situation". There is always this lingering feeling of hope that disables me, but another thing that does is that I really feel his love and care for me... which makes it that much harder...

Can someone please, help me understand this better... him, myself, us together, us separately.. is there any any glimpse of hope here, any transitions, anything thats in our favor ?

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posted January 03, 2020 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 10, 2020 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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StoneMoon
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posted January 11, 2020 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you want to repost the charts?

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Graham
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posted January 11, 2020 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Are you referring to the posted charts and previous feedback at http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009758.html ?

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Saggy7
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posted January 14, 2020 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:

Are you referring to the posted charts and previous feedback at http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009758.html ?

Hi Graham,

I was talking about this one. Guy nr 2
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009533.html


Can you tell me anything please

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posted January 14, 2020 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Do you want to repost the charts?

Hi StoneMoon,

Thanks for replying. Yes, I will repost here

I hope this works


Synastry


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Saggy7
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posted January 14, 2020 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im sure you have heard it many times before. But I feel like this man is my soulmate in a lot of ways. Yes, I have been hurt through this association but it was never intentional on his part (I think that makes it better?).... it's just the way he is, he has a lot of stuff to work on in his life and isn't ready to settle down until that happens, if it ever happens...
Even the recent break up wasn't initiated by him, but by me... we had a heart to heart few days later and he went on about himself how he sucks as a person, how he is selfish, self centered, and only good for sex and passion. I was shocked to hear him talk this way about himself....because he doesnt like to be criticized and just knowing him I know it took a lot of self reflecting for him to talk that way...telling me I deserve more and better etc etc that he brings nothing to the table,that he is a coward who doesnt let people in or share his feelings, that I settled for him etc..

Will he always stay this way? I see his heart and I love him so I can never look at him only through his flaws. I have them too..

Any opinions ?

Ps. I should also probably mention Im used to the uranian energy and aspects (in fact I think it's what I'm attracted to), I have a lot of it in my natal chart and people I end up with also have it even though I think he is more uranian than me.

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posted January 15, 2020 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just bumping it..

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posted January 15, 2020 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Overall synastry potential of 80% (8/10). His unaspected Cancer Moon in your 8th House is a sore point. Emotional challenges. Composite is mediocre @ 52%, barely above average. If you're both satisfied with hot sex and shifting sands, go for it. Know that it's temporary. Avoid living together. Karmic resolution requires deep understanding and forbearance on your part.

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posted January 15, 2020 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by comdoc:
Overall synastry potential of 80% (8/10). His unaspected Cancer Moon in your 8th House is a sore point. Emotional challenges. Composite is mediocre @ 52%, barely above average. If you're both satisfied with hot sex and shifting sands, go for it. Know that it's temporary. Avoid living together. Karmic resolution requires deep understanding and forbearance on your part.


I could be wrong, but I thought his Cancer Moon is in my 9th and not 8th house

We mostly aspect each others 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th

Don't I aspect his Moon with following aspects

His Moon opposite my Neptune
His Moon opposite my Uranus
His Moon opposite my Sun
His Moon sesquiquadrate my Moon
His Moon quintile my Jupiter

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posted January 15, 2020 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your 9th House cusp is at 19Can45 and his Moon is 3Can17.
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Originally posted by Saggy7:

I could be wrong, but I thought his Cancer Moon is in my 9th and not 8th house

We mostly aspect each others 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th

Don't I aspect his Moon with following aspects

His Moon opposite my Neptune
His Moon opposite my Uranus
His Moon opposite my Sun
His Moon sesquiquadrate my Moon
His Moon quintile my Jupiter

?


I was reading major aspects from the displayed lines. His Cancer Moon oppose your Capricorn Neptune is an emotional challenge, confusing feelings. Your Sag Sun and Uranus could be viewed as out-of- sign oppose his Cancer Moon, but with no displayed aspect line, and are inconjunct by sign. Another emotional challenge. Sesquiquadrate and quintile are minor aspects; that's why they are also not displayed on the chart you posted.

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posted January 15, 2020 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by comdoc:
Your 9th House cusp is at 19Can45 and his Moon is 3Can17. I was reading major aspects from the displayed lines. His Cancer Moon oppose your Capricorn Neptune is an emotional challenge, confusing feelings. Your Sag Sun and Uranus could be viewed as out-of- sign oppose his Cancer Moon, but with no displayed aspect line, and are inconjunct by sign. Another emotional challenge. Sesquiquadrate and quintile are minor aspects; that's why they are also not displayed on the chart you posted.


Thank you comdoc.

May I ask why did you write in your first post that we should avoid living together? We were nowhere near that, but I'm just curious.

Also, one of the things he told me after our recent breakup was that he isnt any good for me or anyone really, that all he is good for is passion and sex etc...am I to believe that his interactions with women in general tend to be similar to our situation, sparks but no long term potential? We also said we loved each other many times...and I really think he meant it, and I think it's been a long time since he has said that to a woman...

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posted January 15, 2020 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic~Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he told you that due to his calculations on your synastry being a high percentage and your composite chart (which kicks in when you blend together, like when you join lives by living together) being at a low percentile of harmony.

Just remember your main goal is always to LOVE someone to the best of your ability without causing great harm to yourself. With this mindset you can love anyone, regardless of their behavior, but pull back and protect yourself when it is taking your very soul to continue to love them. You have to know someone REALLY well to know if you have potential. You have to get to know them, and love them, and help them and see if they also try to get to know you and love you and help you... and see how you feel doing and experiencing those things. Synastry can tell you Mars/Venus/Pluto say he brings up the sexy energies in you, or the moon says you feel like you are laying down in mommy's arms with your teddy bear when he is near you or he feels that way about you... but you have to be an expert on HIM and HIS chart and HIS past to know if he is deathly afraid of teddy bears and mommies or sex or whatever. It's complicated.

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posted January 15, 2020 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
I think he told you that due to his calculations on your synastry being a high percentage and your composite chart (which kicks in when you blend together, like when you join lives by living together) being at a low percentile of harmony.

Just remember your main goal is always to LOVE someone to the best of your ability without causing great harm to yourself. With this mindset you can love anyone, regardless of their behavior, but pull back and protect yourself when it is taking your very soul to continue to love them. You have to know someone REALLY well to know if you have potential. You have to get to know them, and love them, and help them and see if they also try to get to know you and love you and help you... and see how you feel doing and experiencing those things. Synastry can tell you Mars/Venus/Pluto say he brings up the sexy energies in you, or the moon says you feel like you are laying down in mommy's arms with your teddy bear when he is near you or he feels that way about you... but you have to be an expert on HIM and HIS chart and HIS past to know if he is deathly afraid of teddy bears and mommies or sex or whatever. It's complicated.


Hi Mystic,

I like that sentence. "Love someone to our best ability without causing harm to ourselves" ❤

I'm not an expert by far so it's hard for me to read his chart fully, but I did get to know him as a person as much as I could for the time we shared and some of his past too.

He would use to tell me he is scarred from the past so I guess somehow he turned into a person who is scarring others without intent, because he is so much better than that. He is probably the sweetest man I ever had romantic feelings for, thats why its sad that we couldn't make it work.

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posted January 16, 2020 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Saggy7. Melody explained it well. There is a lot of love between you (80% potential), but due to composite condition and emotional challenges it's easier if you are not in each others' faces all the time. His Cancer Moon needs peaceful calm home.

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Originally posted by Saggy7:
Thank you comdoc.

May I ask why did you write in your first post that we should avoid living together? We were nowhere near that, but I'm just curious.

Also, one of the things he told me after our recent breakup was that he isnt any good for me or anyone really, that all he is good for is passion and sex etc...am I to believe that his interactions with women in general tend to be similar to our situation, sparks but no long term potential? We also said we loved each other many times...and I really think he meant it, and I think it's been a long time since he has said that to a woman...


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posted January 16, 2020 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by comdoc:
Welcome Saggy7. Melody explained it well. There is a lot of love between you (80% potential), but due to composite condition and emotional challenges it's easier if you are not in each others' faces all the time. His Cancer Moon needs peaceful calm home.


I understand. That makes me sad that I can't be his peace...
As far as you saying that karmic resolution comes with forbearance and deep understanding on my end...last few days I think I have reached that point even though it's still sad when you have 2 people who love each other, but can't be together. But I am in the state of acceptance and its helping me look at the situation and everything else in my life differently..there is a little hope still occasionally but I shake it off as soon as it pops up in my head and even though Id like to have him in my life, its possible that we could never be "just friends"..

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posted January 16, 2020 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic~Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saggy, I am sorry you are in this feeling right now. It is not comfortable, I know. I hope you find peace and strength and continue to send this soul friend your love. They say, "We are all just helping each other along." And most people are scarred... but they also say, "If someone tells you who they are, BELIEVE THEM."
I know you see the good in him. That is probably why he backed off. He needs a soul on this Earth who still thinks of him that way.

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posted January 16, 2020 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
Saggy, I am sorry you are in this feeling right now. It is not comfortable, I know. I hope you find peace and strength and continue to send this soul friend your love. They say, "We are all just helping each other along." And most people are scarred... but they also say, "If someone tells you who they are, BELIEVE THEM."
I know you see the good in him. That is probably why he backed off. He needs a soul on this Earth who still thinks of him that way.

Thank you for your words, Mystic. Thats true, even though in his case he showed me more than he could tell me. And what he has showed me was kindness, respect, compassion and one of the best parts is...I never had to second guess if he would be there for me in a time of need had I ever needed his help; of course he would be there for me and anyone he cares for, that's just the person he is... In that regard I was more certain of him as a person than of my ex of years with whom, sure I didnt have to wonder where we stand with each other, but he treated me very poorly in times when I needed him the most... Its something you can't quite forget...

But I'm sorry, I'm going on and on. Nothing will change the outcome of the situation here but also what he last said to me, I can say for myself also. No matter what happens I love you and nothing will change that ❤

Ps. I understand what you meant by your last couple sentences. You are maybe right, maybe had we stayed together longer, I would get to meet that person he believed he was(selfish, self centered, coward, mean, not caring about others feelings)...like this he will always remain a beautiful memory...only tainted by sorrow that he is no longer here ❤

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posted January 16, 2020 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm also thinking what is the point of great synastry (besides the obvious to put 2 people together) if they can't make it work (composite)

Does that mean it's better to have good composite and maybe an average synastry instead? This would probably always be a problem for me because I am so big on that connection, that spark, it's what makes me fall in love, its what makes me want to work on a relationship...

Or is decent synastry/decent composite the way to go? Again why settle for someone you feel just okay about? Ehh they are alright, but I have had better...

Is it extremely rare to have great synastry and great composite? Is that we call twin flames, soulmates etc etc....and then when some of those relationships dont work out also ..whats left after that?

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posted January 16, 2020 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic~Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When men feel strongly for a woman, they want to be a better man to be worthy of the woman they care about. He just has to know that you still think of him as a good guy in order to keep you in his mind and memory. If it is meant to be then he will be back at the right time.
That goes for "twin souls" as well. What is real is always real and never "ends", it just waits for the proper growth environment and moment.

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posted January 16, 2020 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic~Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And as far as synastry/composite go, I guess the answer is "it is what it is". Who is to say that "twin flames" don't choose difficult synastry/comp from time to time over the incarnations? Whatever you chose for your soul to learn is what you chose. I think we know this in our deepest selves. You know what you came to do here on Earth this incarnation. We may not know the exact form, but everything you've been sincerely drawn to and have sincerely yearned for in your life, it has meaning later in life when you look back on it.
Little things and big... for myself I love music and research. Italy and camping. Reading, astrology, spirituality, singing. I took psychology and classes on marriage counselling and troubled teens/addiction in college and some music and theater classes along with the requirements. I never got my BA and saw it as a failure of sorts (lots of Saturn in me combined with my Venusian energy) but the main point here is that though I never became a marriage counselor or rock star or ran a camp for troubled teens... those things were the "carrot in front of the horse" that led me along to all of the experiences I was MEANT to have and to all of the people I was MEANT to share words and thoughts. And gave me the tools and abilities to share them in the most appropriate way... according to God/The Universe's Plan. Not MY plan, but the plan that takes ALL of the Intelligence and Wisdom and Love and Knowing of Everything for all of Time's PLAN. The true plan for the betterment of ALL.

And that is what I ask each day when I take the time to pray/meditate. I surrender to THIS PLAN of the Higher Knowing, not to my own small ego plans.

This has made all the difference. It isn't easy, it isn't always pretty, it isn't the life of someone on a television show in a fancy suit or a yoga outfit having the perfect beautiful people life. But it is MY path and the path God/Universe planned for me, revealed in the sometimes highest expression of my birth chart and sometimes weak human expression of my birth chart. We are led to have experiences. When we connect with our Higher Selves and let the energy flow through us, we are led to share information with others. Sometimes we trust it, sometimes we aren't strong enough. Sometimes others trust it, sometimes they aren't strong enough.

But sincerely... if you have Faith... what you deeply and sincerely wish for in this life will happen. Often in a way you don't understand as it is happening. That is the Faith part. To be someone like me who only truly wanted a deep and real relationship with a best friend and partner for life that would help us both grown and heal and move to a point where we could help each other help others in whatever way The Universe in It's Divine Wisdom has chosen for us, based on the current situation we find ourselves, it was terrible waiting for him. I was so deeply and tragically lonely at times. I dreamed of Using our abilities in Service to The Uni-verse, The One-Song, The Mystic Melody. I don't have a degree in mysticism, but I am Melody and I do serve the Powers of the Greatest Good for All. I do my best. It's not always even good, sometimes it is a downright failure, but many times it is RIGHT. And it has brought me (in almost 50 years) where I am meant to be and has fulfilled my deepest hopes and dreams.

Do I have the perfect chart? I have the perfect chart for ME for this life. Do my partner and I have the perfect synastry and composite? We have the perfect synastry and composite for us in this life.

That is what I know.

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posted January 16, 2020 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
When men feel strongly for a woman, they want to be a better man to be worthy of the woman they care about. He just has to know that you still think of him as a good guy in order to keep you in his mind and memory. If it is meant to be then he will be back at the right time.
That goes for "twin souls" as well. What is real is always real and never "ends", it just waits for the proper growth environment and moment.

I love this ❤ Thank you for your words of wisdom🙏🏼

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posted January 16, 2020 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
And as far as synastry/composite go, I guess the answer is "it is what it is". Who is to say that "twin flames" don't choose difficult synastry/comp from time to time over the incarnations? Whatever you chose for your soul to learn is what you chose. I think we know this in our deepest selves. You know what you came to do here on Earth this incarnation. We may not know the exact form, but everything you've been sincerely drawn to and have sincerely yearned for in your life, it has meaning later in life when you look back on it.
Little things and big... for myself I love music and research. Italy and camping. Reading, astrology, spirituality, singing. I took psychology and classes on marriage counselling and troubled teens/addiction in college and some music and theater classes along with the requirements. I never got my BA and saw it as a failure of sorts (lots of Saturn in me combined with my Venusian energy) but the main point here is that though I never became a marriage counselor or rock star or ran a camp for troubled teens... those things were the "carrot in front of the horse" that led me along to all of the experiences I was MEANT to have and to all of the people I was MEANT to share words and thoughts. And gave me the tools and abilities to share them in the most appropriate way... according to God/The Universe's Plan. Not MY plan, but the plan that takes ALL of the Intelligence and Wisdom and Love and Knowing of Everything for all of Time's PLAN. The true plan for the betterment of ALL.

And that is what I ask each day when I take the time to pray/meditate. I surrender to THIS PLAN of the Higher Knowing, not to my own small ego plans.

This has made all the difference. It isn't easy, it isn't always pretty, it isn't the life of someone on a television show in a fancy suit or a yoga outfit having the perfect beautiful people life. But it is MY path and the path God/Universe planned for me, revealed in the sometimes highest expression of my birth chart and sometimes weak human expression of my birth chart. We are led to have experiences. When we connect with our Higher Selves and let the energy flow through us, we are led to share information with others. Sometimes we trust it, sometimes we aren't strong enough. Sometimes others trust it, sometimes they aren't strong enough.

But sincerely... if you have Faith... what you deeply and sincerely wish for in this life will happen. Often in a way you don't understand as it is happening. That is the Faith part. To be someone like me who only truly wanted a deep and real relationship with a best friend and partner for life that would help us both grown and heal and move to a point where we could help each other help others in whatever way The Universe in It's Divine Wisdom has chosen for us, based on the current situation we find ourselves, it was terrible waiting for him. I was so deeply and tragically lonely at times. I dreamed of Using our abilities in Service to The Uni-verse, The One-Song, The Mystic Melody. I don't have a degree in mysticism, but I am Melody and I do serve the Powers of the Greatest Good for All. I do my best. It's not always even good, sometimes it is a downright failure, but many times it is RIGHT. And it has brought me (in almost 50 years) where I am meant to be and has fulfilled my deepest hopes and dreams.

Do I have the perfect chart? I have the perfect chart for ME for this life. Do my partner and I have the perfect synastry and composite? We have the perfect synastry and composite for us in this life.

That is what I know.


I wish you the best, I read your story and it's beautiful, not easy, but beautiful. I believe that too, if we really want it, it will happen, it's just that sometimes like you said, it's in a way we don't even realize it's happening.

Thank you, Mystic ❤

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posted January 16, 2020 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic~Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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