posted February 04, 2020 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by livvywatermonkey:
Thanks Todd, Could you describe further what you perceive through his natal Moon/Eris conjunction opposite composite Psyche and conjunct composite Eris? I am not really certain how to understand Eris apart from a kind of unbridled destructive energy.
Is there any possibility of this resulting in a healthy relationship, or is that necessarily precluded? I don’t know if this changes the picture but I am nearly 28 and he 37, so I can see how these placements would appear even more particularly alarming if we were both 10 years younger. I understand though if this information does not really change anything regarding your prognosis.
You said that I could be pulled in through emotional manipulation, does it look like he is a covert narcissist? Do you see in his chart anything about the genesis of this potential manipulation & control? Does it look like something he would already be aware of in himself, or does it look like a dynamic that could be activated/rise to the surface in the context of a relationship with me, because my issues reflect subconscious desires for control that he may not be fully aware of?
My understanding from what you and Stoika7 have said is that there may be an intense or sinister sexual energy to our relationship. I am wondering a) if it were only a matter of intense (and not sinister) sexual energy being activated in the context of relationship, and b) if we were both mature, present, honest and secure with/in ourselves, is there any window of possibility, in your opinion, that this energy could be contained in the sexual sphere and not predominate every other, ie leak into mental or emotional abuse?
Could you describe further what you perceive through his natal Moon/Eris conjunction opposite composite Psyche and conjunct composite Eris?
eris is extremely ambitious.selfish and sexual. in some myths she is the sister of mars , so eris can be seen as female counterpart to mars and there can be unusal sexual appetites.
eris is not a nurturing energy so to be associated with the moon is somewhat paradoxical and with psyche the implication is that sexuality will overwhelm any truly sincere and spiritual feelings of love.
Is there any possibility of this resulting in a healthy relationship, or is that necessarily precluded?
theh composite does have some very favorable apsetc with the stellium of juno/venus/mars/sun and the moon sextile to Saturn and trine to Jupiter.
but genrlly, hard squares will override sextile and trines in a composite. in your case, the Uranus/Saturn conjunction opposed to chiron can be a very hard aspect as it is unbending and cold.though mercury might ameliorate these characterizes with the sextle/trine aspect to Saturn and chiron.
still, the midpoint of the orcus/pluto square is square to Uranus/Saturn and Chiron.
this where the eros/psyche midpoint becomes important as the midpoint is conjunct Uranus/Saturn and opposed to chiron.
these symbols, especially psyche bring attraction to childlike association. but Saturn and chiron specifically when associate with psyche show unusual sexual interest in children this is often a pedophila desire. and regardless of the ages, Saturn/chiron/psyche often show an attraction to the infliction of pain on the defenseless. these symbols are often found in a abuser or in sado masochistic relationships.
here the question of whether this could be a healthy relationship must be considered.
you chart does have aspect of abuse by older males or the father. Saturn is conjunct mars and biquintile to the south node and opposed to orcus.in addition the midpoint of the venus/pluto conjunction is conjunct the node.
this can also show oppressive sexual/emotional conditions in your especially as this occurs with the Saturn pattern. childhood.
it is interesting that currently the transiting south node is conjunct the composite north node, so these psychological dynamics are active in your consciousness now.
what this can indicate is that you are unconsciously still bound to the abusive behavior of your childhood and you are attracted to this man because he embodies those same dysfunctional dynamics. if one has blocks then one is unable to see these characteristic in someone else and as I said can be unconsciously drawn to them.
a) if it were only a matter of intense (and not sinister) sexual energy being activated in the context of relationship, and b) if we were both mature, present, honest and secure with/in ourselves, is there any window of possibility, in your opinion, that this energy could be contained in the sexual sphere and not predominate every other, ie leak into mental or emotional abuse
frankly his chart with the tsquare seems to be set in stone. that is he is highly unlikely to be able to modify the abusive characteristic he has.he doesn't have any strong trines. abusive aspects with no harmonious aspects tend to show a abusor.
you have hard abusive aspects but you also have strong aspects of harmony which are often indicative of a abusee.
as I have said,this is a most unusual situation as usually the synastry and composite tend to show similar dynamics, but here the aspects are much more favorable in the composite that the synastry.
I still tend to be skeptical. but you might added named asteroids to the charts as this can pin down the exact parts being played by the individuals.
if you can find exact named asteroids then you look to asteroids with similar consonants. also if you or he have nick names, these will serve. named asteroids work when the chosen one reminds you of the person. sometimes a descriptive name will remind you of the person. also gender doesn't matter.simialr sounding names will work for instance kate and cate.
todd
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