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Topic: Death, and lots of it...
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 13585 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 01, 2020 04:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by rayofnight: When my mother died of cancer, she was aware that my father was having an affair. He married this woman less than 3 weeks after her death. She wanted the man and his money but not the three young girls that came as part of the package. Yet, her promise to "step in and care for" us was the reason he married her, so she got creative. Her violent physical abuse of us was how she dealt with her bitter resentment of our existence. We had a CPS (Child Protective Services) worker at a time when no one knew what they were and it was still legal to beat your kid. That's how excessively brutal she was. I knew I had the potential to repeat the cycle so I went the other way and didn't spank my daughter at all. But I was also emotionally unavailable because, to not engage the violent part, I couldn't get my emotions involved.
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todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 02, 2020 01:59 PM
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posted April 02, 2020 03:47 PM
I'm intrigued,i'd like to look at your ancestors charts. toddIP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 02, 2020 03:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by rayofnight: Thank you so much for that, Todd. That was some fascinating information. When my mother died of cancer, she was aware that my father was having an affair. He married this woman less than 3 weeks after her death. She wanted the man and his money but not the three young girls that came as part of the package. Yet, her promise to "step in and care for" us was the reason he married her, so she got creative. Her violent physical abuse of us was how she dealt with her bitter resentment of our existence. We had a CPS (Child Protective Services) worker at a time when no one knew what they were and it was still legal to beat your kid. That's how excessively brutal she was. I knew I had the potential to repeat the cycle so I went the other way and didn't spank my daughter at all. But I was also emotionally unavailable because, to not engage the violent part, I couldn't get my emotions involved. BLM info I found also mentioned secrecy in my family history and darkness in my female ancestors. Quite spot on - the reason I got membership in ancestry.com was because of the cloak of secrecy - I couldn't even find out how my parents met, I was lied to about when and how my grandfather died, etc. My 7th, 8th and 9th great grandmothers were Anne (Hooker) Alcock, Mary Lacey and Mary Lacey, Jr. All three were accused of witchcraft in the Salem Witch Trials of 1692, with the grandmother dying in the Salem jail of injuries from torture and interrogation. Her daughter and granddaughter were eventually exonerated but Anne's body was thrown into a ditch, which was was considered acceptable at the time. I would consider that a "darkness" in regards to my female ancestors. So pretty accurate. Thank you, Todd, so much for you contribution to my understanding. Pretty amazing what can be seen of someone's life without them having to speak of it. You are all such generous and amazing people for sharing your knowledge.
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rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 02, 2020 09:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by todd: I'd like to look at the charts of your ancestors
Tell me what you need from me, Todd. I can give you access to my family tree on ancestry.com - would that work?
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rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 02, 2020 09:35 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by todd: I'm intrigued,i'd like to look at your ancestors charts. todd[/QUOTETell me what you need from me, Todd. I can give you full access to my family tree on ancestry.com- would that work? IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 02, 2020 10:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by rayofnight: [QUOTE]Originally posted by todd: [b]I'm intrigued,i'd like to look at your ancestors charts. todd[/QUOTETell me what you need from me, Todd. I can give you full access to my family tree on ancestry.com- would that work? The women evolved with the witch trials birth data is what interests me todd [/B]
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todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 03, 2020 12:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by rayofnight: [QUOTE]Originally posted by todd: [b]I'm intrigued,i'd like to look at your ancestors charts. todd[/QUOTETell me what you need from me, Todd. I can give you full access to my family tree on ancestry.com- would that work? The women evolved with the witch trials birth data is what interests me todd [/B]
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rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 03, 2020 12:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by todd:
Can I email you the info or should I post it on here? IP: Logged |
rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 03, 2020 02:43 AM
I forgot to mention that I'm also Manglik (Vedic). "Mangal Dosha is an astrological condition that occurs if Mars is in the 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th house of the Vedic astrological lunar chart. A person born in the presence of this condition is termed a Manglik. This condition is believed by some to be devastating for marriage, causing discomfort and tension in relationship, leading to separation and divorce, and in some cases, it is believed to cause untimely death of one spouse."
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rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 03, 2020 03:16 AM
Here you go, Todd. I don't have birth times so I used 12 noon. Let me know if you like access to the tree, and thank you for your interest. Ann Hooker Alcock Foster http://imgur.com/a/tQa4nyB
Mary Foster Lacey http://imgur.com/a/3IF0iDb Mary Lacey, Jr http://imgur.com/a/hwpvkOn IP: Logged |
rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 03, 2020 03:28 AM
Here you go, Todd. I don't have birth times so I used 12 noon. Let me know if you like access to the tree, and thank you for your interest. Ann Hooker Alcock Foster http://imgur.com/a/tQa4nyB
Mary Foster Lacey http://imgur.com/a/3IF0iDb Mary Lacey, Jr http://imgur.com/a/hwpvkOn IP: Logged |
rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 03, 2020 05:28 AM
Here you go, Todd. I don't have birth times so I used 12 noon. Let me know if you like access to the tree, and thank you for your interest. Ann Hooker Alcock Foster http://imgur.com/a/tQa4nyB
Mary Foster Lacey http://imgur.com/a/3IF0iDb Mary Lacey, Jr http://imgur.com/a/hwpvkOn IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 03, 2020 02:57 PM
Ok I got them it'll take me a while to process them.u'll try to get one in today. With your chart,I'm expecting to see indication of your past life . todsIP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 03, 2020 04:34 PM
Hi again Starting with the matriarch,it is interesting that she had Mary when she was 35. Ann had a Mars/south node conjunction which gives very strong personal charisma and physical power.this strengthen the Aura so that she was felt mentally and psychically. This also gives a strong sexual presence. and with the Mars/Venus midpoint conjunct to psyche and square to Eros,it beginning to look like she feminine charms might something to do with the charges against her.she was clearly attractive which immediately We put her against male church leaders.plus with her psychic presence can only have been a danger in those times. She also had a a Sedna/node/Chiron stellium which gave her the power of knowledge and Truth.she saw the truth behind social hypocrisy,again a dangerous ability in the those times.mars opposed to Chiron and Sedna made her forceful and a power that would threatened the patriarchy.with Jupiter trine to Neptune and Lilith,plus her named asteroid,Anna, conjunct to pholous,she was clearly a spiritual Force also . Ixion was conjunct to Venus and square to Neptune showing her spiritual/social/mental abilities again points to social authority . Ixion shows the hostility that had to have built up against her in the Puritan milieu, The Jupiter/juno midpoint is opposed to the mara/Neptune midpoint which suggests that there was a betrayal involved in her down fall.this might also show domestic problems as well as political problems.can be interpreted as infidelity if she was married . but I think the late age at which her antagonists were finally able to get to her house suggests the power she had in her youth. She just might have been a 20th century woman out of place in time..Anna's chart speaks to a part of your chart I did not go into. You have Neptune forming a grandtrine with your Jupiter/Chiron conjunction and your orcus/Ceres/Juno/sun stellium. This shows a out spoken commitment to the Truth as well as a devotion to family.orcus can bring the uncovering of hidden or taboo subjects. With Neptune square to the node/Saturn/Pluto-orcus,you have a very strong spiritual focus in your life this Neptune square to the node often brings visionary or mediumistic abilities.oftendream states can persist in to waking consciousness.one can also have waking visions.i would have expected you to expected you to have had some sort of premonition about a past life. Anna is also square your vertex which suggests you might have felt her presence during otherworly experiences and todd
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rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 03, 2020 07:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by todd: Hi again Starting with the matriarch,it is interesting that she had Mary when she was 35. Ann had a Mars/south node conjunction which gives very strong personal charisma and physical power.this strengthen the Aura so that she was felt mentally and psychically. This also gives a strong sexual presence. and with the Mars/Venus midpoint conjunct to psyche and square to Eros,it beginning to look like she feminine charms might something to do with the charges against her.she was clearly attractive which immediately purther clearly attractive, which put her against male church leaders.plus with her psychic presence can only have been a danger in those times. She also had a a Sedna/node/Chiron stellium which gave her the power of knowledge and Truth.she saw the truth behind social hypocrisy,again a dangerous ability in the those times.mars opposed to Chiron and Sedna made her forceful and a power that would threatened the patriarchy.with Jupiter trine to Neptune and Lilith,plus her named asteroid,Anna, conjunct to pholous,she was clearly a spiritual Force also . Venus was conjunct to Venus and square to Neptune showing her spiritual/social/mental abilities again points to social authority . Ixion shows the hostility that had to have built up against her in the Puritan milieu, The Jupiter/juno midpoint is opposed to the mara/Neptune midpoint which suggests that there was a betrayal involved in her down fall.rgis might also show domestic problems as well as political problems.can be interpreted as infidelity if she was married . but I think the late age at which her antagonists were finally able to get to her suggests the power she had in her youth. She just might have been a 20th century woman out of place in time..
Anna's chart speaks to a part of your chart I did not go into. You have Neptune forming a grandtrine with your Jupiter/Chiron conjunction and your orcus/Ceres/Juno/sun stellium. This shows a out spoken commitment to the Truth as well as a devotion to family.orcus can bring the uncovering of hidden or taboo subjects. With Neptune square to the node/Saturn/Pluto-orcus,you have a very strong spiritual focus in your life this Neptune square to the node often brings visionary or mediumistic abilities.oftendream states can persist in to waking consciousness.one can also have waking visions.i would have expected you to expected you to have had some sort of premonition about a past life. todd
Thank you for your comments. You have spent alot of time on this and I am really thankful to you. If you were to ask my family about me (I am currently living with my two sisters again, and a brother-in-law), they will all three tell you that the one word they would use to describe me is "mysterious". I had no clue they felt this way until recently. My brother-in-law, who has known me well for over 30 years, was the first to tell me. I just don't get it. My little sister told me yesterday that I am unusual and that she can't even find the words to explain why she has always felt like that. It makes me feel like a pariah. But now I question if it's all tied together somehow. I am very outspoken when asked for my opinion, and will tell the brutal truth always (though I don't go around lobbing it at anyone with ears) because that is all I want in return. Just the pure truth. It is extraordinarily hard to find. I am a little frightened to find out about past lives because I think I may have been Mary Lacey, Sr in the past life. She accused her mother to save herself and her daughter, and maybe the reason I am so loyal in this life, is to make amends for that extreme betrayal. It could also be the reason I take the most difficult path always - to further punish myself. And Mary's birthday was the day before mine. I see alot of recurring birthdays and it makes me wonder if we keep the same birthdate thru each life, or at least same birth sign, maybe.
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todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 03, 2020 11:00 PM
Mysterious is an apt description of your Neptune square to Saturn and the nodal axis.. this aspect makes you very complicated and shows you like to be private.but with Chiron and Jupiter conjoined people can't anticipate whether you will respond openly or concealed.this aspect can give a sense of insecurity because your personality is so o malleable at times.the node adds pyschic and paranormal experience and feelings as you are subject to higher planes of reality.
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rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 04, 2020 01:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by todd: Mysterious is an apt description of your Neptune square to Saturn and the nodal axis.. this aspect makes you very complicated and shows you like to be private.but with Chiron and Jupiter conjoined people can't anticipate whether you will respond openly or concealed.this aspect can give a sense of insecurity because your personality is so o malleable at times.the node adds pyschic and paranormal experience and feelings as you are subject to higher planes of reality.
Yeah, my sisters swear I'm totally unpredictable - they get it wrong 100% of the time. But it seems to me that, in itself, would indicate predictability.
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rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 04, 2020 01:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by todd: Mysterious is an apt description of your Neptune square to Saturn and the nodal axis.. this aspect makes you very complicated and shows you like to be private.but with Chiron and Jupiter conjoined people can't anticipate whether you will respond openly or concealed.this aspect can give a sense of insecurity because your personality is so o malleable at times.the node adds pyschic and paranormal experience and feelings as you are subject to higher planes of reality.
And, yes, I can be very insecure at times but I always think I'm able to hide it well. I am probably delusional about that, though. IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 04, 2020 05:56 PM
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todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 04, 2020 06:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by rayofnight: And, yes, I can be very insecure at times but I always think I'm able to hide it well. I am probably delusional about that, though.
You are correct in your assessment.the Neptune square to Saturn doesn't give classic insecurity rather it is more of a uncertainty caused by the difficulty distinguishing the"self" from the" non-self".you are very perspective. I'm working on Lacey senior now todd IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 06, 2020 01:29 PM
The trolls are still harassing me.i lost a reply again.i'll later ob toddIP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 07, 2020 03:37 PM
Just a few comments for now.your named asteroid is opposed to Mary's venus/moon conjunction and the named asteroid Mary is opposed to your sun/Juno/Ceres conjunction.so the moon/sun connection adds to the likelyhood that Mary is your past incarnation. I'll add more but I will have to add it in segments as I am having difficulty with using my mobile phone and the trolls interference. todd IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 3475 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 07, 2020 04:09 PM
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rayofnight Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Troy, Missouri Registered: May 2017
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posted April 07, 2020 04:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by todd: Just a few comments for now.your named asteroid is opposed to Mary's venus/moon conjunction and the named asteroid Mary is opposed to your sun/Juno/Ceres conjunction.so the moon/sun connection adds to the likelyhood that Mary is your past incarnation. I'll add more but I will have to add it in segments as I am having difficulty with using my mobile phone and the trolls interference. todd
I'm curious what your intuition told you about it before you started the research, Todd. If you want to email your comments to me , I can then post them on here for you. IP: Logged |