posted March 30, 2020 01:57 AM            

To possibly answer your question, I would look for Pluto contacts first and foremost, within your own chart. 8th house Lord, aspects to that as well, and where the slowest planets have been transiting for you (Pluto, Uranus, Neptune).

posted March 30, 2020 01:59 AM            

Or if you give your birth information I can generate chart for you and post it here.

Sorry to hear you have experienced so much loss in your life

posted March 30, 2020 08:27 AM            

I agree with @implosions about Pluto natal aspects, planets in 8th H and their condition, if they are afflicted or not.
It could be a mix of natal placements and transits-progressions.

Transits of slower planets through 7th H (important others and spouse), 8th H (natural house of death) 12th H (ruled by Neptune which represents our spiritual self).

I remember reading about the 9th H too (long dinstance travels, death could be considered one).

posted March 30, 2020 09:52 AM            

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Originally posted by rayofnight:
Thank you so much for responding. Here is the link (I hope):
http://imgur.com/gallery/nXhIBMc

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posted March 30, 2020 09:56 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Can you please post your chart using astro.com for me! Include asteroid Juno is possible.

Or if you give your birth information I can generate chart for you and post it here.

Sorry to hear you have experienced so much loss in your life

I tried everything I could think of to download the chart with asteroids but I couldn't get my phone to do it. Not sure if you can copy and paste the second link into your browser - it worked for me. If not birthdate is July 10, 1962, 5:07am in San Diego, CA. I am so grateful for your help with this. Thank you.

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posted March 30, 2020 01:40 PM            

The first thing I noticed that pops up is that your 8H cusp is in Capricorn at 29 degrees.

Capricorn at 29 degrees is a very karmic degree and 29 degree of any sign is a considered a degree of endings, death or crisis.

Further, Saturn rules your 8H and you have Saturn RETROGRADE (also very karmic for saturn to be retro) conjunct Southnode EXACT in your 8th house. Southnode rules past lifes, saturn is the planet of karma, the 8H rules death, 29 degree is a crisis degree associated with death and endings too and is a karmic degree as it implies that the situation were the 29 degree is showing up needs to be addressed in this life, 29 degree comes with this sense of urgency.

I mean in a nutshell you have some intense karma associated with death.

Then we add that your saturn retro conjunct southnode exact are falling in Aquarius so there is this element of all these deaths happening unexpectedly out of the blue.

OMG then you add that Southnode conjunct Saturn in the 8H forms an inconjunction with PLUTO which is the natural ruler of death and inconjunctions are also very karmic in nature. Parallel to this incojunction we have your Northnode inconjunct Chiron so you are destined to experience a lot of pain (chiron is the wounded healer) bc of your southnode karma in this life.

posted March 30, 2020 02:37 PM            

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The 8H rules Death.

The first thing I noticed that pops up is that your 8H cusp is in Capricorn at 29 degrees.

Capricorn at 29 degrees is a very karmic degree and 29 degree of any sign is a considered a degree of endings, death or crisis.

Further, Saturn rules your 8H and you have Saturn RETROGRADE (also very karmic for saturn to be retro) conjunct Southnode EXACT in your 8th house. Southnode rules past lifes, saturn is the planet of karma, the 8H rules death, 29 degree is a crisis degree associated with death and endings too and is a karmic degree as it implies that the situation were the 29 degree is showing up needs to be addressed in his life, 29 degree comes with this sense of urgency.

I mean in a nutshell you have some intense karma associated with death.

Then we add that your saturn retro conjunct southnode exact are falling in Aquarius so there is this element of all these deaths happening unexpectedly out of the blue.

OMG then you add that Southnode conjunct Saturn in the 8H forms an inconjunction with PLUTO which is the natural ruler of death and inconjunctions are also very karmic in nature. Parallel to this incojunction we have your Northnode inconjunct Chiron so you are destined to experience a lot of pain (chiron is the wounded healer) bc of your southnode karma in this life.

Our northnode is our destiny and it inconjuncts your Chiron (destined to experience pain and healing, healing will require flexibility and be challenging) while your southnode conjunct saturn in the 8H incojuncts Pluto so your wound is connected to Pluto (e.g. grief), you have Pluto opposite Chiron connecting to your nodes along with saturn. Tremendous pain, chiron/saturn is the heartbreak clash, southnode/northnode is our destiny and what needs to happen to balance out karma and traits in ourselves so we can grow into the person we are meant become.

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Thank you so much - I can't even express my appreciation properly. I thought it to be a challenging life. On top of the death issue, I am one of those people who, when given an option, will always choose the most difficult path...intentionally. I literally can not pick the easy one to save my life.

Anyone want to trade? lol

"There was a man who complained because he had no shoes until he saw the man who had no feet."

posted March 30, 2020 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by rayofnight:
Thank you so much - I can't even express my appreciation properly. I thought it to be a challenging life. On top of the death issue, I am one of those people who, when given an option, will always choose the most difficult path...intentionally. I literally can not pick the easy one to save my life.

Anyone want to trade? lol

"There was a man who complained because he had no shoes until he saw the man who had no feet."

Thank you again, very much. It feels easier to bear when you know it was written in the stars, so to speak

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I know what you mean, once you see it in your chart it helps bc you feel like okay there is a reason for all this.

posted March 31, 2020 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Bless your heart. I Love your screen name, very fitting of northnode in LEO!

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Big hug to you, hypatia238. And with Mercury in Gemini, "playing on words" is where I get all my exercise. Like in Pinterest, I have a board on front doors that I call "Adore a Door" - crap like that.

posted March 31, 2020 08:03 PM            

I use advanced modern astrology and within that system you have multiple indications of deaths influence in your chart....cont . first, your named asteroid Michelle is square to pluto.which rules death.andthe midpoint of Michelle/Pluto is square to your moon/ixion conjunction,ixion was the first mythological character to bring death to Mt.Olympus.

posted March 31, 2020 08:13 PM            

I use advanced modern astrology and within that system you have multiple indications of deaths influence in your chart....cont . first, your named asteroid Michelle is square to pluto.which rules death.andthe midpoint of Michelle/Pluto is square to your moon/ixion conjunction,ixion was the first mythological character to bring death to Mt.Olympus.

Orcus, Pluto' twin isw on your ascendant and square to Eris this again shows death influences your consciousness, this time with those you have passionate relationships

posted March 31, 2020 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Ray, are you still in the area where you were born? might be good for you to move further away which will result in a different relocated chart, that might offset the heavy formation in your 8th house associated with karma in your birth place

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posted March 31, 2020 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Ray, are you still in the area where you were born? might be good for you to move further away which will result in a different relocated chart, that might offset the heavy formation in your 8th house associated with karma in your birth place

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posted March 31, 2020 10:22 PM            

Once again your brightness is conditioned by darkness.
It seems your saving grace may be your mind as Mercury is square to lilth suggesting that knowledge and it's pursuit will bring completion to your Soul.
todd

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Looking for psychological understanding,the node/Saturn/Pluto/orcus dynamic often shows a severe and abusive environment as a child.your Pallas is conjunct Mars giving self assurance.but even here,the Mars/Pallas conjunction is also with nessus,again a sense that you were treated with malevolence as a child.again there is image of darkness behind your light is also shown by the Michelle midpoints with Pallas/Mars/nessus being squared to the Pluto midpoints with Venus/Uranus.

Once again your brightness is conditioned by darkness.
It seems your saving grace may be your mind as Mercury is square to lilth suggesting that knowledge and it's pursuit will bring completion to your Soul.
todd

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Thank you so much for that, Todd. That was some fascinating information.

When my mother died of cancer, she was aware that my father was having an affair. He married this woman less than 3 weeks after her death. She wanted the man and his money but not the three young girls that came as part of the package. Yet, her promise to "step in and care for" us was the reason he married her, so she got creative. Her violent physical abuse of us was how she dealt with her bitter resentment of our existence. We had a CPS (Child Protective Services) worker at a time when no one knew what they were and it was still legal to beat your kid. That's how excessively brutal she was. I knew I had the potential to repeat the cycle so I went the other way and didn't spank my daughter at all. But I was also emotionally unavailable because, to not engage the violent part, I couldn't get my emotions involved.

BLM info I found also mentioned secrecy in my family history and darkness in my female ancestors. Quite spot on - the reason I got membership in ancestry.com was because of the cloak of secrecy - I couldn't even find out how my parents met, I was lied to about when and how my grandfather died, etc.

My 7th, 8th and 9th great grandmothers were Anne (Hooker) Alcock, Mary Lacey and Mary Lacey, Jr. All three were accused of witchcraft in the Salem Witch Trials of 1692, with the grandmother dying in the Salem jail of injuries from torture and interrogation. Her daughter and granddaughter were eventually exonerated but Anne's body was thrown into a ditch, which was was considered acceptable at the time. I would consider that a "darkness" in regards to my female ancestors. So pretty accurate.