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Graham
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posted August 17, 2020 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Your natal chart is not programmed to deal with this issue, as this issue is not yours. It is your mother's. She is the one who got stressed at the time of your birth. You feel it because the umbilical cord was not yet cut, but the issue is not yours. Throw it away in the sea. Have it as a scratch, not a wound.

Ah, yes. ... My mother had a Cancer Pluto/Capricorn Moon opposition, making a T-square with Aries Chiron at the apex. Transit Moon was exactly conjunct that Pluto 3 hours before my recorded time of birth, and only 1deg20mins beyond exact at the recorded time of birth.

Thanks for the steer, EE.

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posted August 18, 2020 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dear friend,

If you are blessed to have children, give them all of your acceptance, all of your love, all of your cuddling and all of your smile no matter how old they are. In this way, you are healing and soothing your mother's T-square, your heart and of course your children's heart.

So many souls will feel happy and relieved... How can you miss such opportunity?...

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posted August 18, 2020 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
My dear friend,

If you are blessed to have children, give them all of your acceptance, all of your love, all of your cuddling and all of your smile no matter how old they are. In this way, you are healing and soothing your mother's T-square, your heart and of course your children's heart.

So many souls will feel happy and relieved... How can you miss such opportunity?...



Yes. ... That has always been an instinctive/habitual behavioural trait for me ... as my (natally-charted) soul-purpose in the current lifetime is to experience life as a husband, father, grandfather and great grandfather.

However, my current-life-ego learns only from making mistakes (rather than from observing those of others, or by getting things right first time) ... and usually only after the same mistake has been made several times.

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posted August 18, 2020 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are the greatest experiences you could have! To be a husband and a father and later on in life to be blessed to be a grandfather and a great granfather! You should consider yourself very lucky!

Maybe you are also a child, besides being an adult, that is why you learn after making the same mistake many times. You should consider it an advantage, being an adult with a young heart, because now you can ask for help and advice from your loved ones.

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Graham
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posted August 18, 2020 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
These are the greatest experiences you could have! To be a husband and a father and later on in life to be blessed to be a grandfather and a great granfather! You should consider yourself very lucky!

Maybe you are also a child, besides being an adult, that is why you learn after making the same mistake many times. You should consider it an advantage, being an adult with a young heart, because now you can ask for help and advice from your loved ones.


Yes. ... I get help and advice from them often ... usually about how behaving differently would have changed the outcome of a negative interaction I've had with someone.

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posted August 19, 2020 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NxNW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
No Willa, often because the times written our birth certificates are several minutes later that when we actually pop out of the womb. Add to that, the fact that our birth charts actually begin when our souls and vessels merge, so their could be as much as a 4hr difference between the time your soul merged with your vessel and when your head first popped out (barring c-sections of course).

Can you elaborate more on the time it takes for our "souls and vessel to merge"? I've heard of this mentioned before - I thought there was an actual term assigned to this but I can't remember...

Thankfully my mother kept her eye on the clock while giving birth to me so my TOB is pretty accurate, give or take just 1-2min. But I did hear about how doctors would write down inaccurate TOB on the certificates simply b/c this would be done hours after the actual birth. I think this BS. If they can call "time of death" in the OR, then they should give equal weight to "time of birth."

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posted August 20, 2020 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can you elaborate more on the time it takes for our "souls and vessel to merge"? I've heard of this mentioned before - I thought there was an actual term assigned to this but I can't remember...

I only know of it as "Re-incarnation". Each and every one of us decides when and where we wish to be born. For most including myself, we consciously (on a higher plane of existence) decide to be merged with our vessels before we emerge from the safety net of the womb. I can't tell you why it is that way for the majority of us, but Kannon is far more knowledgable in that area than me, so I would ask him for greater detail and clarity.

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Graham
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posted August 20, 2020 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by NxNW :

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I thought there was an actual term assigned to this but I can't remember...

Ensoulment?

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