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Topic: The Gemini messaged me saying that he wants to see me
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 17, 2020 01:39 PM
I asked him why he decided to change his mind about seeing me again. He said he didn't want to cheat on his girlfriend but now that he knows that she's leaving he won't. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2917 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted October 18, 2020 09:59 AM
It's clear that you're his backup plan. He will come back and leave again. I've seen this happened so many times. My first bf who was in/out of my life also has Gemini (Moon). My friend's guy who ghosted her twice is also Gemini (Sun/Moon). Another friend's flighty cheating boyfriend has a Gemini stellium, so yeah, I guess they can be really notorious. Gemini ladies are generally not like this though! (Speaking as a Gemini rising/Venus) Although you keep saying you only want to be his FwB but it's obvious you have romantic feelings for him and such feelings don't belong in a FwB relationship. It's better you steer clear to avoid being hurt again. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 18, 2020 10:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: It's clear that you're his backup plan. He will come back and leave again. I've seen this happened so many times. My first bf who was in/out of my life also has Gemini (Moon). My friend's guy who ghosted her twice is also Gemini (Sun/Moon). Another friend's flighty cheating boyfriend has a Gemini stellium, so yeah, I guess they can be really notorious. Gemini ladies are generally not like this though! (Speaking as a Gemini rising/Venus) Although you keep saying you only want to be his FwB but it's obvious you have romantic feelings for him and such feelings don't belong in a FwB relationship. It's better you steer clear to avoid being hurt again.
I know the Gemini isn't relationship material. Hence the reason why I asked him to be friends with benefits initially. Because I've always known that he's not relationship material. I am talking to the Scorpio guy that I mentioned on here before. And he's the one I really want the one I have romantic feelings for. I've been talking to him for a while now and I'm going to meet him. Yes, I do like the Gemini we had a good time together and I do want to remain friends with him. But as far as being in a romantic relationship no. I know how Gemini's are both of my parents are Gemini. And my dad is a Gemini Venus. So yes I know they can be flakey. But at least he was honest about having a girlfriend and not wanting to cheat on her. It depends on other planets my mom isn't as flakey as my dad because she has earth and water in her chart. There isn't a time that I'm only talking to one guy. Because I know how men are I always have a backup just in case. And no that doesn't mean I'm sleeping with every guy. It just means I have friends just in case because I know how men are. My ex has Gemini Moon and he tries to talk to me again from time to time but I ignore him. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 18, 2020 02:40 PM
He currently has Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter transiting his 7th house that’s probably why he didn’t want to cheat. I’ve read that people tend to be serious about relationships when Saturn is transiting their 7th house.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16283 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 18, 2020 03:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: It's clear that you're his backup plan. He will come back and leave again. I've seen this happened so many times. My first bf who was in/out of my life also has Gemini (Moon). My friend's guy who ghosted her twice is also Gemini (Sun/Moon). Another friend's flighty cheating boyfriend has a Gemini stellium, so yeah, I guess they can be really notorious. Gemini ladies are generally not like this though! (Speaking as a Gemini rising/Venus) Although you keep saying you only want to be his FwB but it's obvious you have romantic feelings for him and such feelings don't belong in a FwB relationship. It's better you steer clear to avoid being hurt again.
I'm a Gemini Moon/Venus. I'm not like that. Oh, you added that women aren't like that - I'm a woman. I do know a Gemini man who is faithful, though. I agree with the rest, though. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 18, 2020 04:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I'm a Gemini Moon/Venus. I'm not like that. Oh, you added that women aren't like that - I'm a woman. I do know a Gemini man who is faithful, though.I agree with the rest, though.
What do you agree with? I’m not interested in being with a player. Gemini men are good for fun nothing more than that. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2917 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted October 19, 2020 03:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: I know the Gemini isn't relationship material. Hence the reason why I asked him to be friends with benefits initially. Because I've always known that he's not relationship material. I am talking to the Scorpio guy that I mentioned on here before. And he's the one I really want the one I have romantic feelings for. I've been talking to him for a while now and I'm going to meet him. Yes, I do like the Gemini we had a good time together and I do want to remain friends with him. But as far as being in a romantic relationship no. I know how Gemini's are both of my parents are Gemini. And my dad is a Gemini Venus. So yes I know they can be flakey. But at least he was honest about having a girlfriend and not wanting to cheat on her. It depends on other planets my mom isn't as flakey as my dad because she has earth and water in her chart.There isn't a time that I'm only talking to one guy. Because I know how men are I always have a backup just in case. And no that doesn't mean I'm sleeping with every guy. It just means I have friends just in case because I know how men are. My ex has Gemini Moon and he tries to talk to me again from time to time but I ignore him.
Hmm... you are interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with the Scorpio guy (which I assumed will be exclusive if it happens?) but at the same time you're thinking of rekindling the FwB relationship with Gemini? How does this all work? IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 657 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted October 19, 2020 09:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: There isn't a time that I'm only talking to one guy. Because I know how men are I always have a backup just in case. And no that doesn't mean I'm sleeping with every guy. It just means I have friends just in case because I know how men are. My ex has Gemini Moon and he tries to talk to me again from time to time but I ignore him.
This’s smart. He is Pluto, you have Saturn to his Sun. Often, Saturn is one who is more responsible and attached . You have moon/Pluto natal and you said you were hurt by him before. So you might over-estimate your detachment here. And what he does already sounds like Pluto manipulation. There’re bunch of guys who would go for hookup with no strings attached. I wonder what kind of relationship arrangement it is when you cannot cheat till certain date lol I’d be good to find out if gf is coming back. She might be just leaving for vacation. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 19, 2020 10:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: This’s smart. I wish I had more Uranus. He is Pluto, you have Saturn to his Sun. Often, Saturn is one who is more responsible and attached . You have moon/Pluto natal and you said you were hurt by him before. So you might over-estimate your detachment here. And what he does already sounds like Pluto manipulation. There’re bunch of guys who would go for hookup with no strings attached. I wonder what kind of relationship arrangement it is when you cannot cheat till certain date lol I’d be good to find out if gf is coming back. She might be just leaving for vacation.
My Saturn is also conjunct his Moon his Saturn does make a sextile to my Moon. I was kind of hurt only because we had a good time when we hung out. And I was looking forward to having more fun with him. But it wasn't the kind of hurt like my boyfriend left me kind of hurt. Because we aren't in a relationship. I have been talking to other men so I just haven't been waiting for him. I had hoped that we could still be friends. But I was at the place where I had just accepted that he didn't want to see me again. I have been talking to the Scorpio guy for a while and I like him. I notice that with the Gemini transit Pluto is close to being in his 8th house and it's trine his Venus. And with my Moon being in his 8th house in synastry. I wonder if that has anything to do with him contacting me. I would like to see him just to hang out but I didn't like the sex. So I really don't want to be sexual with him. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 19, 2020 11:47 AM
@Librapurr: what do think about our synastry?IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16283 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 19, 2020 08:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: What do you agree with? I’m not interested in being with a player. Gemini men are good for fun nothing more than that.
That you are a back-up plan. He isn't concerned about how you feel, only how he's feeling. He wants to hook up again, when his girlfriend leaves. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 19, 2020 08:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: That you are a back-up plan. He isn't concerned about how you feel, only how he's feeling. He wants to hook up again, when his girlfriend leaves.
I asked him if he wanted to be friends with benefits. If he's single and doesn't have a girlfriend. And he knows that I want to hook up with him. Why is it a bad thing that he wants to see me? I'm the one who initiated wanting to being friends with benefits. I've been talking to other men so it's not like I've just been sitting and waiting for him. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 657 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted October 19, 2020 08:55 PM
Probably, your Mars in his 12th and barely aspected is the problem here. You activate his 12th house, some fears and unconscious stuff come out of it. Also, hard Mercuries and Venuses are suggesting confrontations and undervaluing each other. You might develop friendly or romantic feelings with your both 11th houses activated, moon in 5th, Neptune on his DC, and moon aspects. He feels sexual attraction more here. With mars nodes and Pluto sq. Moon. Also, you both have Uranus to personal Planets, moon in 6th. You might find understanding. However, if he is just looking for entertainment behind his gf back. He might play Pluto part and just try to get his way. For timing, your progress planets and transits to composite could be a better source. Also, it was beginning of retrograde Mercury (Gemini ruler). It could be a reason for his activation. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2917 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted October 20, 2020 02:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: I asked him if he wanted to be friends with benefits. If he's single and doesn't have a girlfriend. And he knows that I want to hook up with him. Why is it a bad thing that he wants to see me? I'm the one who initiated wanting to being friends with benefits. I've been talking to other men so it's not like I've just been sitting and waiting for him.
It's not whether this is a good or bad thing but generally nobody likes to be someone's backup plan. Highly likely he will cut you off again once he finds someone new/if his gf comes back. If you don't mind this then go ahead.
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 20, 2020 03:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: Probably, your Mars in his 12th and barely aspected is the problem here. You activate his 12th house, some fears and unconscious stuff come out of it. Also, hard Mercuries and Venuses are suggesting confrontations and undervaluing each other. You might develop friendly or romantic feelings with your both 11th houses activated, moon in 5th, Neptune on his DC, and moon aspects. He feels sexual attraction more here. With mars nodes and Pluto sq. Moon. Also, you both have Uranus to personal Planets, moon in 6th. You might find understanding. However, if he is just looking for entertainment behind his gf back. He might play Pluto part and just try to get his way. For timing, your progress planets and transits to composite could be a better source. Also, it was beginning of retrograde Mercury (Gemini ruler). It could be a reason for his activation.
Thank you for your input you are correct about me activating his 12th house energy. I’ve been thinking about it and I think that’s the connection that I feel with him and it’s also my Pisces Venus. I think he has a lot of 12th house issues. I don’t like the idea of him playing on his girlfriend if that’s the case. IP: Logged |
anska5 Knowflake Posts: 155 From: Registered: Jun 2018
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posted October 20, 2020 06:39 AM
I'm just so confused by now ..On the one hand, you write "I asked him if he wanted to be friends with benefits. If he's single and doesn't have a girlfriend. And he knows that I want to hook up with him." but then you also write: " I would like to see him just to hang out but I didn't like the sex. So I really don't want to be sexual with him." How does FwB work without any sex? IP: Logged |
anska5 Knowflake Posts: 155 From: Registered: Jun 2018
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posted October 20, 2020 06:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by anska5: I'm just so confused by now ..On the one hand, you write "I asked him if he wanted to be friends with benefits. If he's single and doesn't have a girlfriend. And he knows that I want to hook up with him." but then you also write: " I would like to see him just to hang out but I didn't like the sex. So I really don't want to be sexual with him." How does FwB work without any sex?
P.S. my point being, if some strangers on an astrology forum are pretty confused just by a few of your comments about what you actually want from the guy, I could imagine he is also pretty confused. Or at least may have been super confused by your mixed signals back then....and maybe also a reason why he dropped off the face of the earth then. Anyway, best of luck! IP: Logged |
MonteCristo Knowflake Posts: 129 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted October 20, 2020 01:54 PM
Yes, I agree with above ^If you are interested in someone else more, and no longer want anything from him, why the continuous inquiry into his “intentions”? If you’re done with him, let it go! No use wasting time wondering about what he’s thinking. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 20, 2020 01:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by anska5: P.S. my point being, if some strangers on an astrology forum are pretty confused just by a few of your comments about what you actually want from the guy, I could imagine he is also pretty confused. Or at least may have been super confused by your mixed signals back then....and maybe also a reason why he dropped off the face of the earth then. Anyway, best of luck!
I said I didn't want to have sex with him because it wasn't good. I'm Gemini Mars and he's Cancer Mars but I do like his personality. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 20, 2020 03:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by MonteCristo: Yes, I agree with above ^If you are interested in someone else more, and no longer want anything from him, why the continuous inquiry into his “intentions”? If you’re done with him, let it go! No use wasting time wondering about what he’s thinking.
If it wasn’t for the bad sex I would want to be with him. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 657 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted October 20, 2020 04:43 PM
I can kinda understand it with all my air 😊 (He probably doesn’t) Why do you need to let go a person if you don’t wanna to have sex with him or not sure yet... He doesn’t look at you as a friend now. And with your Mars Chiron at 12th, he might be confused about your intentions/actions, and you end up playing or hurting each other. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16283 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 20, 2020 05:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: It's not whether this is a good or bad thing but generally nobody likes to be someone's backup plan. Highly likely he will cut you off again once he finds someone new/if his gf comes back. If you don't mind this then go ahead.
Yes, this. But if you just want to be friends, and not have sex, you should make sure that he knows. I'm feeling a bit confused, too. IP: Logged |
Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 1023 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted October 22, 2020 08:52 AM
@ChildOfVenusHope you're not taking this the wrong way, but it seems you're denying yourself of the truth that you actually do like him romantically. And I don't know why people have this fear of admitting to themselves that they like someone. It's alright that he doesn't feel the same. Not everyone is supposed to have feelings for you. That doesn't make you any less worthy of it. It's alright that you realize within yourself that you like him and he will f#ck your emotions up if he enters your life; if he doesn't reciprocate that is. If you're trying to push it under the rug you won't be able to properly deal with it. Be real with yourself as to what you actually feel towards him and you'll be able to handle it objectively. It's fine to be open with him 'yo it hit me during our last conversation that I actually do like you and I don't think I want you to visit me if you know for certain that this ain't going anywhere'. It has zero to do with the presence of other guys in your life and that you weren't 'waiting for him'. You can have enough people in your life, but still be wishing for someone to come back if that someone is the only one that actually matters to you. It's not the interest in someone that gets people to back off, it's if you make them the center of your identity which you're clearly not doing. If you could only admit to yourself that you like him... Be secure with your emotions. Having feelings doesn't make you insecure. It's the not knowing how to handle it properly. And you handle yourself fine. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5294 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 23, 2020 08:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Brenda_S: @ChildOfVenusHope you're not taking this the wrong way, but it seems you're denying yourself of the truth that you actually do like him romantically. And I don't know why people have this fear of admitting to themselves that they like someone. It's alright that he doesn't feel the same. Not everyone is supposed to have feelings for you. That doesn't make you any less worthy of it. It's alright that you realize within yourself that you like him and he will f#ck your emotions up if he enters your life; if he doesn't reciprocate that is. If you're trying to push it under the rug you won't be able to properly deal with it. Be real with yourself as to what you actually feel towards him and you'll be able to handle it objectively. It's fine to be open with him 'yo it hit me during our last conversation that I actually do like you and I don't think I want you to visit me if you know for certain that this ain't going anywhere'. It has zero to do with the presence of other guys in your life and that you weren't 'waiting for him'. You can have enough people in your life, but still be wishing for someone to come back if that someone is the only one that actually matters to you. It's not the interest in someone that gets people to back off, it's if you make them the center of your identity which you're clearly not doing. If you could only admit to yourself that you like him... Be secure with your emotions. Having feelings doesn't make you insecure. It's the not knowing how to handle it properly. And you handle yourself fine.
It's the 12th house energy that makes me feel the way that I feel about him. When I'm with him I feel free and alive it's like being in another world. It's like a spiritual connection. But I know he isn't relationship material. Yes, I do think about him even though I talk to other men. I've even had sexual relations with another guy after him. And I still think of him sometimes. But I know we are just friends and I can deal with that. We go months without talking to each other. But then we always seem to see each other again or start back talking. But I have other men who keep me occupied. I'm assuming that it's just like a lesson that we need to learn from each other. IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 865 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted October 23, 2020 08:55 PM
On the positive side: ----------------------- I think Gemini likes the stability Taurus can provide.Gemini's can go in circles with different ideas, some work some fail. When they fail there glad to have a fixed stable sign around. I don't want to be presumptuous but I gather your just looking for some reassurance, I think you can deal with him. You've experienced enough Gemini suns in your life that I think you can deal them much better then you think, you could probably handle me, lol. Since you grew up with Gemini parents you have at least 20+ years experience dealing with both the male and female Gemini. In my previous job there was this older Taurus lady that I really got along with, I found out both her sister and mother were Gemini suns. The Bad: ----------------------- I can only assume that I'd think the same way he does.
Number one rule with dealing with Gemini males..well the silent thinking types which is the type I am. They always play devils advocate or options play. If I can't have this, then I can have that but keep both options on the line. Either: a) He's using you as a hedge, just because his girlfriend is leaving doesn't mean she won't back or some god forsaken thing happens. If that fails, his backup option is you. b) Maybe he doesn't know what he wants and until he makes up his mind your his option. The good part about that is he'll keep things casual until he makes up his mind. You might have the edge here if you can keep him casual while balancing Mr Scorpio. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑ IP: Logged |