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Graham
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posted January 22, 2021 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the light of what happened on the thread at http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/010753.html ... it might be helpful to potential thread posters if the (several) members who DO reply regularly to threads on this board made a note here (on this thread) of why (or/and why not) they decide to do so.

For example, if a thread poster requests responses from specific members, I reply only when noticing something which those members might not raise. ... (Such as, harmonic aspects, interceptions and Huber system observations).

Moreover, I do that even if I am one of two-or-more members requested to reply by a thread poster.
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And ... the following post (from another thread) explains why thread creators on this board need to be aware that - to fully explore a relationship - the astrologer/student/querent has to look at the whole picture (via several different charts) :-

"The individual astrological indicators have the same meaning in natal, synastry, composite and davison charts - but we are looking at them from 4 different perspectives. ... Thus :-

1. The natal chart shows the personal issues of each of the two people. (So these are there throughout the relationship.)

2. The synastry shows the personality clashes; generational differences and (subconscious) psychological issues that each partner will experience via interacting with the other.

3. The composite shows how the two people will operate together, as a two person team.

4. The davison shows why the two souls are in the relationship, or what the relationship is helping them to learn/develop.

So ... South node conjunct vertex has the same general meaning/interpretation in both the composite and davison charts ... (i.e.. "fated events will hinder the achievement of the North Node objective") ... BUT that NN objective may differ in each of the two charts."

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posted January 22, 2021 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I don’t reply here as often as I used to, but I plan on doing so more this year so:

1: Making sure you have a valid link is super important. I think I speak for all when I say astrology is very visual, we need to be able to see the chart(s) to be able to provide an answer. Personally If I click on a thread and notice there’s no link or it’s broken, I don’t bother and move on to the next. Same thing if you just post the birth info and expect us to create the charts for you, it’s extra work and most of not all of us would be more likely to respond if the link is already there.
Using Placideus when posting charts too is a good rule of thumb since that’s what most of us here use. If the astrologer uses something else, they will ask you to repost with their preferred method or ask for birth info so they can do it themselves.

2: Lots of spelling mistakes, or just an unclear question makes it difficult as well. If you have any specific questions, try be clear.
Make sure you state who’s who in the Synastry, if male or female is inside, and if the birth times are accurate.

3; Be patient, wait at least 3 days of no reply to start getting upset or antsy or wondering why nobody is replying. Remember this is a FREE forum, nobody is entitled to answer anyone’s questions. People have lives outside of this forum as well, things happen, people get busy or sick or tired or sometimes someone is just not particularly interested in the chart or question you asked. But be patient, and there’s a good chance at least 1 person will. Though if you get an attitude or start acting entitled, nobody will want to help you.

4; Sometimes the poster asked a complicated or very specialized knowledge question, and people simply don’t have the answers for you, and instead of typing a response of “IDK sorry” they just ignore the thread and don’t post.

Also, just personally for future reference, I try my best to respond to threads addressed towards me specifically. So if you want to get my attention that’s the best way but be patient with me, i don’t check the forum every day, usually every few days or once a week at the latest. But keep in mind I’m a lazy Mars in Libra intercepted and I have to muster up whatever little energy I have left from the day to respond 😂, or sometimes I see the thread and mean to reply later but I get busy/side-tracked and forget to. So if that happens, if I say I’ll be back later, a friendly reminder/bump should do the trick

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posted January 22, 2021 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree with Graham and the good job LunaIscariot did in detailing her response.

When I see titles with ONLY some people's names mentioned, I tend to skip those threads.

Placidus charts
I too am a 'visual' person. When I 'see' the chart {either through a link to image hosting site, or IMG'd on the page} I can do a better job. Whole house charts are just too 'loose'.
If I see your chart in another thread, I can usually print out a copy for self to keep in mind when I see questions later.

The field of astrology has MANY branches.
As much as I'd 'love' to focus on ALL of them, I have to set my limits to only some. I have a broad exposure, {and have ref books on Composites}, so I 'know' what you're asking for-- Rarely here in this forum, I've popped in.
Some of the folks here are REALLY GOOD at what they do--
and some of these folks are not-necessarily the 'popular' people here. Want to say that I notice you! You give great answers. I acknowledge you.

HOME ENVIRONMENT
I have a HUGE problem with my home environment being VERY Toxic, and it has interfered GREATLY in my ability to study, and my ability to form responses.
I'm frustrated with that.
. .
Some people post requests within a 'good' period of time for me {when the *sonic* disturbances are lower, and my energy is up for it}-- but then suddenly the *sonics* can RAMP UP HIGH and it cripples my ability to respond in good timing.
You'll see me pop in, then go missing.
That's why.

For ones who ask--
"Time" is of the essence when people make requests-- I understand the pressing 'need' of the moment. I know the amount of work you put into asking your questions and laying out materials. In Relationships, there's usually a lot of 'emotion' going on WITH the asker. Want to acknowledge that.


With my approach, I do more than just spit-out intellectually in my answers. I go deeper-- there's usually 'a reason' why people have asked their question. I like to get to the root of 'why' they asked, and 'what' it is they TRULY wanted to hear.

Thanks again LunaIscariot--
Yes, most of us are unpaid-'volunteers'.

Among those who ask, SOME people 'honestly' cannot 'afford' a paid reading. The work that goes into answering people's questions .. is Valuable.

Graham... You are AWESOME. I've told you that. Don't let yourself feel 'put down'. You work very HARD here. Others get material compensations for what they do-- but you do not. I appreciate your efforts and your willingness to 'stay' with a person until they 'get' it. You are a master of that, and YOU are Valuable.
{{In fact, you CREATED this thread!! That's HOW MUCH you Care, and you Contribute here.}}

If I can say this---
I followed the link Graham left to STACY.
I read her request, and the strings of asteroids that she worked in order to lay them out.
. .
As I read it, instead of her request being a 'question', it seemed more that she was trying to tell US the meanings and ideas she has behind the question. Maybe she doesn't realize that if she just reads what she wrote, she 'already' knew the answer? ..
. .
My approach would have been to have HER answer her own question, by talking about 'the obvious'? and how she feels about that.

Among the persons who do asteroids, we seem to have different background-approaches. I'm not into darker-occult, nor conspiracy. Unless it's appropriate, I normally will just read, and consider those. I'll 'jump in' when I feel I have something to contribute that the askers are open to.

But mostly for me, my 'environment' is the MAIN issue.

When I see posts that are not being responded to by the 'usual',,,, before their question falls off the page, I try to jump in for them. (IF my environment has cooperated.)

I want to say how Proud I am of people here at LL. I've watched people grow. Some are VERY brave in laying out some really painful things and asking for help. My Heart goes out to you.

You Deserve Grace ..
I pray it meets you.
If you don't get answers from 'here',
then (metaphysically), JUST from asking your question in the 'ethers', may Heaven provide.

We live in perilous times--
Be Good to Each Other.
Give..
Be Supportive as you Can.

Special Blessings to those who have been so Active in helping Others.

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sashavittoria
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posted January 22, 2021 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for starting this Graham! I just want to say, as someone who only pops in occasionally, I am really grateful for the seasoned astrologers on this forum who always seems to know just the hint I need to point me in the right direction for further research. Stoika, Graham, mirage, Orange, Todd, Lunalscariot, and more, you are all abundantly generous with your time and patient with those of us still learning, and your consistent grace and kindness is truly needed in this world. Bless you all <3

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StoneMoon
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posted January 22, 2021 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with what was said above. I have come here often and received wonderful help, so I try very hard to pay it forward. That said, I tend to only respond when I have something valid to say. I am still learning, though I have been studying it for eight years now. If I don't feel competent in my answer, I won't answer for respect for the querent.

If I have personal experience with something I try very hard to give my input in case it does benefit someone else. This forum is largely responsible for my education here, and I find personal experience much more useful than straight cookbook/textbook answers. Again, I largely answer so as to repay that favor.

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SimplyLuna
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posted January 22, 2021 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<3 <3 <3 <3

I appreciate this too ^_^


Can I ask what makes a great questions? I tend to ask bad ones without knowing.

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MMarie
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posted January 22, 2021 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you to all who have lent their time, energy, knowledge and talent on this forum! You are truly appreciated! ❤️❤️❤️

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athenaia
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posted January 22, 2021 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tend to reply when I see something in the synastry/composite I have a lot of personal experience with, or if someone's story really moves me emotionally.

If they provide the correct images (or, at the very least, links to the images), that also induces a reply (not just from me, but from others) I've noticed. Astro.com charts seem to be the preferred visual on this form, so you COULD successfully post an image but if that chart comes from some place like astrotheme.com it seems people are less inclined to look at it here

If someone just lists a bunch of aspects (like in that post) my eyes tend to glaze over. Visuals, rather than words, are key.

Also if someone talks about a synastry/composite aspect with zero images or birthdays listed, that post also tends to get ignored in my observations here

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Stoika7
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posted January 22, 2021 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all 💙

I dont have rules. I usually reply when I check one chart and have something to say, unless someone else has said the same things already. If someone calls me and others, I try to always reply in any case, unless, for instance, someone else before me has said much more than I would say.
I usually avoid to answer to those threads where a bunch of aspects are mentioned without posting the chart, sometimes I suggest to post the chart.
If someone doesnt know how to pull and post their chart and needs help, sometimes I do the job with their birth data. I find this is even more helpful cause I can include aspects I am interested to check on my own, or for instance, look at further transits and progressed charts.

Related to Stacey's thread, I just want to say that I feel a bit responsible for that, cause after I had read her chart, she asked me twice about those asteroids, but I told her I wasnt familiar with all those and I suggested her to post a new thread for Todd and Orange who maybe could help her. Sorry if I dared to give her such suggestion, I guess I wont repeat the mistake, but I didnt imagine it would become an issue.

Btw, I do agree with Lunal about most asteroids being quite useless especially when basic aspects point to challenges already, cept for a few mostly used ones.
Even though, if there are people asking about less known asteroids and someone being able to reply on those, I would certainly welcome them in order to learn more.

I just think that, as a general rule, long lists of aspects, whatever it is about, can be confusing and difficult to be interpreted without having the big picture of the chart images at hand, that's all.

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Graham
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posted January 23, 2021 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the encouraging comment, mirage.

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Graham
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posted January 26, 2021 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Graham
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posted January 28, 2021 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 28, 2021 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to you and some others, for offering this precious kind of help here for people in need. 🌻

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Graham
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posted January 28, 2021 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Graham
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posted January 29, 2021 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 29, 2021 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(Graham )

Re Stacey..
My heart sank when I saw she had unregistered.
I wish she had persisted.
We could have made-up for it.
It's not the responsibility for only ONE person-- that's not fair, because somedays we can feel a bit off, or we don't feel well-- but still want to try.
We all jump-in, and play a part, over time.

People who 'ask' for Readings
need to know that,
and to please be patient.

Important!---
If you are not served on the 'first wave',
please do not take it "personally."
There can come a 'second wave' of responders.
. .
You also have the Option to *bump* your own thread.

Randall also comes along with an appreciated reminder-bump for us.

Saw more posts that Stacey had done.
She was in an ecstatic point in her discovery, her learning.

Discoveries can almost be 'too wonderful' when you don't have people around to share with.
"Quantum Explosions in awareness" can occur, that open a chart into HD (high definition).

When you work with Asteroid Astrology, the rocks can become like popcorn kernels--
suddenly, the chart blows-open!

Myself being older,
asteroids took on even MORE relevance.
I came to astrology LATE in life. I had already basically 'lived' my chart's basic life plan.
Using hindsight, retrospect, I could identify the nuances found in my chart.
(Forensic Astrology).
. .
Definitions are not always static.

With Asteroids,
you can identify and trace the paths you took with your life--
History: the names of people you met, your spouses, family, children.. Who you dated.
Names of towns you lived in;
Kinds of events that occurred,
job fields you've pursued, even hobbies--
all spelled out in the chart.

Can act as a memory bridge (for me).

Psychological Astrology, Humanistic
Graham covers that specialty field --
mentioned in his initial posts.
Some asteroid groups are named after mythological characters.
These can 'picture' (illustrate) Archetypal themes and Patterns that may playout in your life.

There's a kind of ecstasy (awakening) that can happen for some people once you identify 'themes'.
Can explain the dynamic behind relationships, events.

Metaphor --
I can liken the result to a scene from the movie 'The Miracle Worker'.
Helen Keller {blind-deaf} discovers that the "feel" of motions {finger-spelled letters} being relayed by touch, onto her hand -- by her specialty-teacher Anne Sullivan -- actually MEAN something.
It's not 'random'.
. .
Teacher spelled W-A-T-E-R = water into her hand, then physically worked the well's water-pump. Water spilled from it onto Helen Keller's hands and fingers. A neurological association was made! An Epiphany, a dawning occurred.
Communication!!
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Keller,_Helen

Humorous aside--
The Bad-speller's Advantage!
If you are a "creative misspeller," then YOU have an advantage, when it comes to looking for names of asteroids, from the lists. Some asteroid names were assigned foreign-language spellings-- so, multi-cultural spellings awareness .. is a plus. *grin*

Not for everyone?
Asteroids might not carry relevance in some charts?
But, when it fits it's truly astounding. Psychic-seeming, prophetic.
..
Years ago, I remember listening to a podcast interview of "Transit-astrologer" Robert Hand (author of book Planets in Transit). At the end of 2 1/4 hours, he was asked about the asteroids phenomena. Said he had looked into it. Basically, in some charts, asteroids DO mysteriously work.
Surreal.

Motives ---
After working with the asteroids a while,
I've found how asteroids can reveal base 'motivations' in a chart. Can reveal the deeper meanings of an Event. They can bring out 'what is barely perceived under the surface' in the subconscious layers collectively-- from inside a person/event, or from circumstances that act on the outside, impinging (neg or pos).

One pitfall
is knowing how 'literally or not' to apply them. You MUST remain flexible and loose-enough to know that these meanings can be modified.
They can have concurrent MULTIPLE meanings.
They change, depending.
It can be one way for a bulk of time,
then change to something different during the course of a lifetime.
Coincidence.
Parallels.

Like using the word "Love"..
Noun, Verb, Adjective?

Depends on the word's position and use in a sentence. Context. History. Even the individual's own inner emotional-reference-bank of experiences... can color meanings. Subjectivity.

Also Important?---
Sometimes it's good to 'take a break'.
If what you 'study or read' starts to upset you, then change up a bit.
It's possible to get 'too obsessive', too literal, too embroiled.
Step away... Refresh yourself a while.


So, represented here at LL, are the different fields of astrology.

Our Stacey was into Midpoint Astrology,
on top of just having discovered Asteroid Astrology.
She also avidly applied these to Relationship Astrology.

I've been fond of Transit Astrology,
which is part of the over-arching field of Predictive Astrology.

I also have an interest in Political, and in the Mundane Astrology {Countries/Nations}.

Medical Astrology field is humongous.
I've delved a bit into that.
Have investigated an array.

With Stacy,
since I only had "general familiarity" with Midpoints her inquiry lay "outside the field of my experience."

BTW AGAIN
There are some EXCELLENT Relationship Astrologers here.
Kuddos! Y'all amaze me.

. .
If Stacey ever reads this--
I hope she will NOT be discouraged.
She is delving into very 'specialized' fields of pursuits.
You have to have a kind of 'genius' to do what she did.

In closing,
I felt sorry that I couldn't jump-in at the point she asked.
Needed to actually 'limit' myself-- *eek*

Laughing here, because I am interested in EVERYTHING! *grin*
I'm a Gemmy!, and I want to do it ALL!!!
~Not fair!! LOL
. .
Transiting North Node {Rahu}
currently travels through my Gemini 7th.
Already crossed over my Mercury,
and in August 2021, will attempt to eat my Sun!
Rahu.. is part of Vedic Astrology
aka Indian or Hindu Astrology.

Adding this ...
I had some ministerial-school training.
Some people of 'faith' have a hard time.
Want you to know, there are other Christians here too.
You are not Alone.

Take Care, everyone.
Thanks for all you do,
for your community.


READINGS can feel like this---

(music) Killing Me Softly
(Roberta Flack, lyrics)
[4:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgl-VRdXr7I

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posted January 29, 2021 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great advice! You Graham, Todd, Stoika and the team do wonderful service, which yes is of your own energy. Donated time and those who ask should be patient and the advice on How-to-post queries kn this thread is completely understandable - I respect it.

As I've dipped my toes in the reader side here a little, I'm finding I am a visual one too ~ to see the wheel is very helpful.
Thank you everyone who makes this section the helpful thread that it is! ♥️♥️♥️

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posted January 30, 2021 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with what LunaIscariot wrote.

I don't reply if birth time is missing for either partner.

I prefer an astro.com image that is visible in the post. Synastry overlay and midpoint composite included.

Gender of both with inner/outer partners indicated.

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posted January 31, 2021 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually... I think I have to add a requirement. If one asks for a reading, they should be willing to accept also a negative opinion, not just the positive :-) We don't have the absolute truth, so we're not always spot on on everything. But complaining about negative insights just means that one can read their charts by their own :-)
It's not easy to tell someone that their relationship is doomed or has little chances... I always feel really bad and ask myself one million time if I should say what I see straightforwardly or just leave the hope instead. But then I feel even worse, as if I haven't warned them of potential risks, and when things happen and I haven't said that, I really feel holding back was unfair. So, I prefer to take the risk to be wrong than holding back a negative opinion or prediction that could have been more helpful being aware of.

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Graham
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posted February 05, 2021 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be sure to post charts which enable members to determine the aspect orbs.

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posted February 06, 2021 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for this thread Graham (and everyone who has contributed), it will be very helpful for Newflakes

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"But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt, as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Here you will dwell, bound to your grief, under the fading trees, until all the world is changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent."

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posted February 09, 2021 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 17, 2021 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 18, 2021 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 28, 2021 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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