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ChildofVenus
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posted May 01, 2021 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Childofvenus, how exact is that aspect?

The orb is at 3°21

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posted May 01, 2021 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seline:
Of course, this is how it works when the other matches you
Does the Mars Pluto conjunction person already have something in their chart that supports that energy?

I'm not sure what you mean by something in their chart that supports that energy the person has Scorpio placements. But people always say Mars/Mars aspects indicate sexual compatibility. But I think this aspect makes up for incompatible Mars signs.

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posted May 01, 2021 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
What I can vouch for on my end with this aspect is jealousy jealousy jealousy. You hate it when someone takes up more of their time or has more of a role in their life that isn't supposed to. Like if you are a chick chasing a guy and you have this aspect with him, you won't hate him for giving more time to his wife because he is supposed to. What you will hate is when another random girl in your situation is getting more time with him.

Like you almost go "well hey if you are gonna cheat, do it with me doofus".


This is true like I know he has a girlfriend and it's like ok fine whatever. But if it's someone else it makes me feel ****** . It's so insane because this is so true lol even though I talk to other guys I feel like this.

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posted May 08, 2021 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutonicGemini94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whew.. I have the square exact 0 degrees with my boo(him mars-me pluto). Plus a wide
opposition at 7*.(Me mars-Him pluto) I usually wouldn't count that 7* but I feel like it does intensify the exact aspect. It felt almost uncontrollable. NEEDING to be touched by each other at any giving time of the day was very new & uncomfortable for me. (gem sun & mercury, sag moon) If we hadn't touched each other for more than a day we would get unnecessary attitudes which would lead to explosive arguments until we had sex again.

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posted May 09, 2021 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Hikaru29, yes totally, Saturn square in a composite is such a red flag. But still, I find it amazing that one aspect like this cancelled everything else. Exact conjunction Sun/Pluto - Moon, Asc-Vertex DW, a huge stellium in a composite. Quite amazing aspects in progressions.

But another reason could be that there was more resonance between my natal and the composite than it was for him. And still...


Of course you need to check other aspects as well. I don’t think 1 or 2 squares from Saturn will cancel out a relationship (if you have other fantastic aspects) but if you have a whole row of composite Saturn squares like me with my guy friend, it’s very difficult to develop, even though we have a huge stellium Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus,Mars... He likes me but I can never accept him as more than friends. Sometimes I even feel repulsed by him.

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posted May 09, 2021 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adriana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a square natally, so I often have this aspect with people at my own age, especially some years away. So I had it with my ex. There were never arguments or that sort of thing, we only dated around 6 months though. We had good sex, but we had other aspects to support that. In his own chart he had Moon conjunct Pluto (the Moon to my Mars was too far away). and Sun and Asc and he is a very intense person.

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posted May 12, 2021 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had the conjunction twice- their Pluto on my Mars. Intense. The first one was more about possesiveness and control issues, the sex was poor. Yet we lasted 15 years for other reasons.

The second was the most sexually intense relationship I have ever had. It was a very unstable relationship, but the attraction was insane.

Pluto Venus doesn't work for me like it does for others, and Mars Venus is only fun for a little bit. Mars Pluto was the best but not reliable.

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posted May 14, 2021 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Adriana:
I have a square natally, so I often have this aspect with people at my own age, especially some years away. So I had it with my ex. There were never arguments or that sort of thing, we only dated around 6 months though. We had good sex, but we had other aspects to support that. In his own chart he had Moon conjunct Pluto (the Moon to my Mars was too far away). and Sun and Asc and he is a very intense person.

What aspect was it? Square or conjunction ?
I have mars square pluto and it's also parallel with this guy
what other aspects in your synastry that you think supported it?

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posted May 15, 2021 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just remember now.
My Pluto were making 60° with someone's Asc and Mars. Also 61° with Venus. My Pluto 24° Conjunct Mars 21° in Libra.
So its Sextile and very weak Aspect I guess.
Sadly I have Saturn 16° Conjunct Mars in Libra my 5th House. The Culprit Exalted Saturn ruin everything because it's too powerful but in a negative way.

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posted May 15, 2021 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
I have had the conjunction twice- their Pluto on my Mars. Intense. The first one was more about possesiveness and control issues, the sex was poor. Yet we lasted 15 years for other reasons.

The second was the most sexually intense relationship I have ever had. It was a very unstable relationship, but the attraction was insane.

Pluto Venus doesn't work for me like it does for others, and Mars Venus is only fun for a little bit. Mars Pluto was the best but not reliable.



I agree that Mars/Pluto is the best but why was the sex poor with one and not the other? What made the difference?

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posted May 15, 2021 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:

I agree that Mars/Pluto is the best but why was the sex poor with one and not the other? What made the difference?

No idea! They also were born only two weeks apart so their charts were very similar. The only difference I can attribute this to is that with person A we had a wide and maybe nonexistent mars square venus, but with the other we had a wide/weak mars square venus and also a tight venus trine mars.

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posted December 26, 2022 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're born with this aspect, are you tired of it and want people to bring you relief from it?

Is the best way I can ask the question.

With the caveat of course, that this may not always be the case, eg, flings will still be on the table when it comes your way.

But, perhaps ultimately, for long-term intimacy, maybe a person with this Pluto-Mars aspect, natally, is looking for someone calm (less Pluto-ey) because you already know the Pluto sh!tshow. This is my query here.


How it feels natally to have Pluto so much aspecting personal planets, I cannot imagine.

But theoretically, people of your own generation would become sexually desirous for you (etc) because their Pluto constantly aspecting.

Perhaps people become too sexual too soon with you? And you get over that, and start looking for, and respecting, only the ones who don't. Those who can control themselves. Maybe even those/some who become too sexual too soon, generate repulsion?

I postulate that this would become tiresome, and a person with many aspects from Pluto to personal planets would want *something* else? Something calmer. Something more human, less overtly sexual, and not so tainted by the very large archetype of Pluto. Perhaps you will want to be seen for who you are, rather than a vector for these great archetypes.

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I can only transpose the same principles to my Uranus characteristics - people have found me intriguing and exciting, and that becomes normal for me. People have said "there's just something different about you".

I tended to stay away, because I wanted to be seen as the person I was. Not as a vector trigging their excitement.

And I wanted to find that one person who was grounded enough to talk to me as a normal person. Not get over excited with me.

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posted December 26, 2022 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depending on your age Sass, have you tried dating someone younger/older than you to avoid the aspects in your chart?

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posted December 26, 2022 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I have, younger and older. And both were a breath of fresh air.

It means that I miss the Chiron opposite Pluto. And their Chirons don't square my Venus. All of these otherwise spell: PAIN.

I postulate that when you have outer planets on your personal ones in positive aspect, you have learned to manage it. It's been part of your learning for your life.

When it comes to Pluto, you want to know that, who you attract is not going to go: obsessive, or too full-on, overtly sexual, or too keen, or too deep (and all those pesky Pluto things), too soon.

You are looking - possibly screening (depending where you are in your development) - for someone who can demonstrate self-control. As this is what you have learned that life is about.

Feel free to correct me if and where I am wrong about any of the Pluto characteristics.

The same applies if you have Uranus to your personal planets - you want someone who can be quirky, but not a lunatic. Neptune: imaginative, not taking Heroin.

So the situation that I have now is at least, giving me the opportunity to learn more about Pluto. From a safe distance.

Apologies if I have repeated myself or if I am stating the obvious.

Edit: I guess they're all about self-control really.

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posted January 06, 2023 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireAndEarth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Squares and conjunctions I've seen cause anything from petty arguments, rough sex, abuse, to murder.

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posted January 07, 2023 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My first wife's Pluto is exactly conjunct my Mars rising. Extreme attraction with 7 years of wedded bliss. Best sexualove of my entire life. She still appears in my dreams.

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posted January 07, 2023 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireAndEarth:
Squares and conjunctions I've seen cause anything from petty arguments, rough sex, abuse, to murder.

Yep, lol. Fascinating isn't it.

That's nice comdoc.

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posted January 20, 2023 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars is fuq around, and Pluto is find out!

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