posted July 29, 2021 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
There can never be an imbalance when you ask nothing in return.

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Sure, but that is the purview of spiritual enlightened/master types like Yeshua that come to love all of humanity (and creation in general). Very few of those in this world, and the ones who are, typically have no real need for, and thus no attraction, to having a romantic relationship. Yeshua for example, was celibate and didn't have any romantic relationship. I have a friend who is very attuned to PUUL (pure, universal, unconditional Love) and he is celibate and has no interest and need for a romantic relationship, and he is not quite at the Yeshua level yet.

For the rest of us that have egos and don't think it's healthy to suppress/repress them, and do get involved with romances, then for a relationship to work, there needs to be give and take from both sides.

That is the very nature of such relationships--that is Venus and Mars in balance. Take Venus out, and then it's not that kind of relationship anymore. (And Venus does not give without some expectation of return, whether in affection, appreciation, love, etc).

And as far as ego goes, even Yeshua had some ego until his body was murdered and he recreated/revivified a new one from the nonphysical. Hence why he focused on loving people from an impersonal, universal space while he was still human. Had he taken a mate, it would have been harder to do that as purely as he did.

I have Pisces South Node in the 7th House, Aqua Venus (ruler of my Moon) in the 7th almost exactly sextile 5th House Neptune and trine Pluto, very strong Jupiter and Neptune combo, and Libra Moon where Moon rules my 12th. The personal, faster moving ruler of my Scorp IC, conjuncts Jupiter, squares Neptune, and trines Sun.

I come from a past (life) where I gave, and gave, and gave and focused more on others and service to same. I came fairly close to reaching almost complete attunement to PUUL. When I was a little kid, I had this odd notion that I wanted to be friends with everyone in the world. I truly saw others as all friends that I had a deep and important connection to. Also had ridiculous levels of empathy and concern for others.

But funny enough, I was born with Virgo North Node strongly cusping Leo in the 1st House. One of my lessons in this life has been to focus more on self as far as independence and on developing positive and necessary boundaries.

If I just gave, and gave, and gave in a relationship with no thought of return, it would be going backwards for me. Instead, I have been nudged to have more self respect and self awareness of my wants, needs, desires, not in a selfish way, but in a way that honors my existence as individual with value and merit. And for people that treat me with less, to be able to say no and/or to walk away.

This has been very difficult/challenging for me to learn and more so to practice. In the further past, I may have just accepted it and let people walk all over me.

One of my first psychic readings ever was with an older, grandmotherly Greek-American lady. I was rather surprised when this sweet, older lady, said very emphatically in rapid succession in her broken and heavily accented english, "you take too much shite from people, why you take so much shite from people, stop taking so much shite from people!"

Took me a long time to listen and get that, but now I am.

posted July 30, 2021 12:02 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
I don't fully know Hikaru. Seems like you might know better than the rest of us? Clearly you have strong feelings for this guy, so why all the second guessing and/or deep questioning of the connection?

My guess is either some kind of unconscious fear, and/or some past/unconscious commitment issues as perhaps indicated by Sag Moon and/or Gemini Rising & SN/Sag DESC? But you came here to become more stable and enduring in this life (Taurus Sun).

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This is not my relationship. It’s my friend with her boyfriend of 7mths. She asked me to read their chart. I saw the heavy 8H and Neptune oppositions + their strong Neptune traits in natals and got concerned. It looks to me like a very intense yet unhealthy relationship and my friend has a tendency to jump head in to a love affair. It could very much be filled with delusions due to the strong Neptune in their natals plus it shows up in Synastry & composite. I’m not sure what I should tell her as I don’t wanna sound like a wet blanket so I’m here to find out more about the 8H relationship which I’m still not able to grasp.

On the other hand, her friends have voiced concerns as he’s 12yrs younger, single, never married… while she’s divorced with kids. I’m not judging them because of this, if they’re happy to be together that’s their call, but this kinda pairing just isn’t common in my culture. Naturally his mom is against it but he said he does not plan to get married so mom’s not an issue. My alarm went off when she told me this because the last guy who said this to her went on to marry someone else. They also hooked up very suddenly while she was nursing a heartbreak... So it’s all these circumstances. There are certain benefits he has admitted to e.g. her financial independence as a older woman and a place where he can lounge so he would happily go over and let himself in without informing her. While the rest of us finds this intrusive, she’s happy he’s making her home his home..lol.

posted July 30, 2021 12:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
There can never be an imbalance when you ask nothing in return.

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I’m not sure one can truly ask for absolutely nothing in return even though it sounds beautiful.

posted July 30, 2021 12:45 PM            

About that not being common in your culture, one of the themes that the 8th House can connect with, is taboos. Breaking taboos can be healthy or unhealthy depending on the context and consciousness of the people involved.

posted July 31, 2021 04:42 AM            

Yes, you're right, me and my guy have strong Neptune connection in Synastry...and you remembered! I half-a@@ don't remember who said what mostly. 😛

Yes, 8H and taboos. I can totally see that.. and I'm open-minded enough to accept most taboos as long as they're not hurting themselves and others. It's her life ultimately.

posted July 31, 2021 11:01 AM            

Your situation btw, irks me some. Christianity is supposed to be a religion of universal love, and love is nothing if not tolerant and accepting. The irony in all this? The most verified, researched, and vast psychic work in the world, said that Yeshua himself studied astrology, and at the behest of his FEMALE Essene teacher even!