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VioletOne
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posted July 21, 2021 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sexually speaking, how do you find a woman's type in a (female) partner for bisexual/homosexual women?

Do the same rules apply?

If yes or no, what would you say about this woman's type?

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posted July 21, 2021 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think mutable energy is often thought to often be bisexual or gay. However I'm not certain if that is narrowed to a Sun, Asc for example, or the whole chart. That one you posted has mutable energy. I looked up some aspects. I have heard before, Aquarius asc can be but I've known a few and non were.


Notes from where I read these  ~ http://the-tarot.com/pointers-on-sexual-preferences-in-a-horoscope/

 - bad aspects (squares) between Sun&Mars,
 and Venus&mars can indicate bisexual women.

Lilith in Pisces and 1st house could trigger an interest?
 She quintiles Moon too.

  There's 4 and counting. 
  Adding the note on Sagittarius  " and a lot of sagittarius in their chart tend to be more fluid in their sexuality"


  You could check these too " In addition, connection of Spica and Arcturus with planets such as Venus, Mars, Sun, and Mercury – gives a tendency to bisexual love."

lol@my finding in my chart
"Scorpio- 8 degree Very passionate temperament. In the worst case – perversion, sexual troubles"
My Aphrodite is there. Overly lustful may had once been my foible. Luckily that factory default expired.

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posted July 21, 2021 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MoonMystic, thank you for sharing that! But I was asking about determining a woman's "type" in a sexual partner if said woman is bisexual/homosexual.

I guess what I'm asking is: What is this woman's type? We have a connection, and I was able to find that she is bisexual or possibly gay, but just because we have a connection and she is not straight does not mean the interest is more than platonic, and I don't want to ruin what could be a great friendship.

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posted July 21, 2021 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VioletOne, Oic .. lol (my mind was what tells about being bisexual) I'm sorry. Let me look again at the chart.

Firstly the desc is Virgo, Mercury nearby too. Am I understanding correctlly?

I think a Virgo (maybe Taurus) nature female, with strong Mercury tendency. I see Moon is aspecting the Mercury, maybe a Cancer type as well. Earthy, studious, meticulous, interested in dialogue, business , home.

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posted July 21, 2021 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. (And I agree with you. I also find Venus square Uranus common in bi/gay women, which she has)

But I’m stuck when trying to interpret her type, and I could really use the help.

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posted July 21, 2021 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And yes, the desc is Virgo.

And wow, that’s good news, as I am a Taurus!

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posted July 21, 2021 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok this is me being naive. Times are differnt since my exploitative dats.
We had a term "lipstick L ... " as for bisexual we would refer to *top as in the one who was masculine in the duo. Am I interpreting by this being how you mean type?
Like Melissa Etheridge is feminine, Kd Lang Androgynous or masculine?


Virgo is Femme. mutable. I believe she is flexible.

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posted July 21, 2021 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Am I interpreting by this being how you mean type?
Like Melissa Etheridge is feminine, Kd Lang Androgynous or masculine?

More like, her type in general (personality, etc) followed by the physical appearance. But of course, I wouldn’t mind knowing that as well!

Édit: but my gaydar tells me she’s into feminine women, even though she is very feminine herself, at least in external appearance. But would love to know what you and others think.

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posted July 21, 2021 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She is likely attracted to both Virgo/Cancers.
Virgo is Femme. mutable. I believe she is flexible.
She might come across as a loner?

 Personalities she could like might, like a hard to get type. You don't wanna be too eager. She prefers simplistic.  Earthy is appealing to her. An outdoorsy
lady. She wants an intellectual,  who will talk high brow topics with her. Someone who could be voluptuous. Maybe a mother or someone that might wish to be a mother.

She might like "linen" essential perfumes, or natural type fragrances. She's simple yet feminine.


I'll  edit more in ~

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posted July 21, 2021 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I am mercurial with Mercury in 6th conjunct Jupiter, and lots of communicative air in my chart.
But I would like to know her type physically speaking, to know if I match that.

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posted July 21, 2021 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We assign (hetero)men's type by their Venus/Moon and we assign (hetero) women's type by their Sun/Mars?

So in the case of queer folk, where exactly do we lean? Are we the type that follow our Martian impulses or our Venusian impulses

I think I follow a menage of my Mars/Sun/Venus/Moon, I'm most captivated by my Venus with other women probably. Yeah I think it's still Venus/Moon/7th house ruler.

So for her, this woman's type.. Someone stoic, refined, someone that has non-gaudy taste in all things. Someone not too expressive. A person that is married to their career, or that embodies the quality of a "trophy" wife. Someone whose sense of style is very clean, polished, refined, classic. She must love someone who really throws themselves into their career/hobby. Someone detail orientated, a planner. Someone she doesn't have to explain common sense stuff too. Someone who would know how to spoil her with really refined life experiences. Someone interesting, salt of the earth, grounded, in touch with nature, someone very sensual. That's my guess

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posted July 21, 2021 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wrote ^

Is there a way you could put your synastry chart up? Yours&hers?

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posted July 21, 2021 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@athenaia Thank you so much for that! And yes, I was wondering if we operate more from our Mars or Venus in this case. For me, it’s both, plus the Moon.

@MoonMystic I’ll post my chart and our synastry shortly.

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posted July 22, 2021 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is our synastry.
But first, the reason I'm asking about her type with emphasis on physical appearance is I am currently staying in hospital, where we met and where she works, so she has not yet seen me outside a hospital gown in my normal environment looking like my normal self, and so I can't tell if her interest is platonic or more, and I don't want to show any interest and risk ruining what might be a good friendship.


My chart:

http://i.imgur.com/V61Uizg.jpg


Our synastry (I'm on the inside):


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posted July 22, 2021 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So far I saw a few good aspects ~

Her Moon trines your Lilith *not certain but this could be chemistry, her emotions will make her see you as the strong one of you two, in your role of patient - she may have thought of you as so. Possibly brave or just very strong.

Her Jupiter is quintile with your AC. That might bring an effortless attraction.  It also trines your Psyche.
I believe in Vedic, Jupiter is revered in the pairing as opposed to Venus. He is significant in happiness.


- She recognizes your sensitive,  intuitive  and healing qualitites, while you do see her beauty.
Your chiron is quintile  her Venus http://12andus.com/blog/view/39 9945/venus-and-chiron-aspects-in-the-synastry-chart-how-does-this-relationship-help-address-wounds-to-self-worth

The linkage of these two energies (quintile is a gift in the chart) can link two in a potential for more ..
"This is the strongest of all linkages and helps form enduring bonds. It has almost mystical influences and seems to help the linked persons in anything they do as a pair." pls read it all on Venus w/chiron http://psyast.blogspot.com/2013/10/magi-astrology-synastry-chirons-key-to.html?m=1


I'm  still reading, sorry to be so slow.
As well, just wanted to say, I'm only trying to lend some help but Todd, Stoika and others are far beyond  my scope. I am seeking what I can. - I just want you to get most accurate look and they understand even the difficult energy far more than I do.

What you said re how you two met, it is a possibility she is receptive to you in a non patient matter. Though she is in a service situation as a nurse, she would still feel anything underlying that is in the magical blue prints. It could be *you are her type. I figured the synastry might be of use.

I'll  bb in a bit. Have to get a few things taken care of, I'll  rtn afterwards.

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I'm back to looking. I hope someone good at reading can offer you some input though. My ability is limited - though I can see differently. Not text book style.

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Her Saturn may feel restricting upon your Moon (emotions)


Venus (yours) Square Neptune

There may be frustration, she might create illisions, her Neptune feeling your Venusian side could bring idealism. This may have you on your toes to keep her grounded - were you to become romantic.

Her Psyche/your moon cnj, it  looks like you are both aware already kf the other in a similar way perhaps. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000451.html

To go back to your biggest curiosity - what is she looking for? Her Desc in Virgo will reflet her type. Sometimes we go off that realm. Many even conne t with their own signs/angles. I didn't look thoroughly at your chart as a solo.

- Your PSYCHE 16 is in Virgo. This aspect you share is a good indication she may "feel" your combined energy.
Mercury/Juno fire trine, may be significant too. As Mercury is her chart Ruler.


**A thread that might help re her type - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000218.html **

Did she allude even delicately to "her type" or her interests, personal topic?
I mean films, music, foods etc.

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posted July 22, 2021 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 22, 2021 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa Violet I'm also a Taurus Sun/Aqua Moon!

Curious, her birthtime correct?

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posted July 25, 2021 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I apologise for taking long to respond, hospital life can be very busy.

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
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Thank you so much for your response, Moon! You've helped me understand things I didn't even mention in my post. Will be back for a proper response and to answer your questions.

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Whoa Violet I'm also a Taurus Sun/Aqua Moon!

Curious, her birthtime correct?



Yes, it's correct. She called her mother to confirm.

It's interesting that we share the Sun and Moon. Can you share your other placements? Or any aspects you think might be relevant to this topic?

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posted July 26, 2021 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as your synastry with her goes.. it is positive in many ways. Your Sun is trine her Venus (and we agree that Venus is significant for her re: her sexuality), this trine forms a grand trine with her Neptune/Jupiter, which can help her feel dreamy, romantic, charitable, adoring feelings for you.

Your Sun is in harmony with her Moon (too wide for a trine but still an elemental match), your Moon is opposite her Sun, these are all classic indicators for good, conventionally wholesome synastry. It makes sense that you guys harmonize together probably effortlessly.

Then her Mars is trine your Venus in Pisces.. your Mars is square her Venus by sign, though it's too wide to be in aspect. Both two very good indicators for chemistry.

Your Sun is opposite her Pluto so you definitely feel seduced by her siren's song. Your Pluto is square her Sun, possibly forming a t-square with your Aqua Moon, so there are power struggles here. If you're her patient, that in itself can be the power struggle since there are taboo/legal dynamics at play here that might stress the possibility of romance.

Your Saturn/Uranus on her MC (career point) could also be another symptom of this? Romantic movement is restricted (Saturn) and unconventional (Uranus) because of the nature of her work (MC)

Her Uranus is opposite your Mars, so that's another check for sparkling, explosive, taboo chemistry

There's another grand trine I just noticed - her Sun, your Jupiter/NN/Mercury and her Uranus. So yeah I kinda think the feeling is mutual tbh.

Plus your Neptune is loosely conjunct her Moon... so I think that you are picking up on her attraction/fascination for you

Do you have the composite?

Oh and as far as placements that you and I share, I also have a personal planet in H7 (Venus in my case, you have your Sun there, so we're both probably hopeless romantics even though our Aqua Moon would never want to admit it)

Your Venus in Pisces is almost at the same degree as my Mars in Pisces (both in H6), and I am also EXTREMELY drawn to Moon in Capricorn people like a moth to the flame

I think our Ascendants are almost exactly semi-sextile (yours in late Libra, mine in late Virgo)

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posted July 28, 2021 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much, athenaia!
And yes, I understand the conflict of having Aqua Moon and being a hopeless romantic. But I also find having Aqua Moon helps me stay grounded, especially knowing I have Venus square Neptune + Pisces Venus (astrology is such a powerful tool to understanding oneself, far better than what studying psychology gave me, that I wish more people knew about it.)

I also draw Capricorn Moon people as friends, specifically Pisces Sun/Cap Moon. We get each other wonderfully, but my 4th house moon can’t connect with Cap moons emotionally enough to be in a romantic relationship with them. But with her the emotional connection is very deep. I was surprised when I saw her Moon is Capricorn! As a fellow Aqua Moon, have you found this to be true with some Cap Moons? And can you share the house your Aqua Moon is in?

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Your Sun is opposite her Pluto so you definitely feel seduced by her siren's song. Your Pluto is square her Sun, possibly forming a t-square with your Aqua Moon, so there are power struggles here. If you're her patient, that in itself can be the power struggle since there are taboo/legal dynamics at play here that might stress the possibility of romance.


This is what concerns me the most, as in our Davison we have Saturn in the 5th. So I’m glad you asked for the composite.


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Your Saturn/Uranus on her MC (career point) could also be another symptom of this? Romantic movement is restricted (Saturn) and unconventional (Uranus) because of the nature of her work (MC)

Could it be something other than being her patient? She spécialisés in wound care, so once the wound heals I will no longer be her patient. It's possible I might stay in the hospital longer, but I wouldn't be officially her patient.

I’ll post the composite shortly.

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posted July 28, 2021 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Post the midpoint composite if you can! I tend not to look at Davidsons too often so I don't think I can speak on them accurately

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posted July 28, 2021 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 28, 2021 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
She is likely attracted to both Virgo/Cancers.
Virgo is Femme. mutable. I believe she is flexible.
She might come across as a loner?


She does (to me). She's extroverted on the outside, but introverted on the inside. Seems to have very few close friends. What in her chart made you ask this?
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 Personalities she could like might, like a hard to get type. You don't wanna be too eager.

Can you please expand on "hard to get"? And where did you see it in her chart?

I never pursue outwardly, I only do it behind the scenes, like posting about it here. I almost never show eagerness (perhaps my Mars in the 8th?)

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Did she allude even delicately to "her type" or her interests, personal topic?
I mean films, music, foods etc.


She never showed interest in me as more than a friend. Actually, she seems to be trying too hard not to show her feelings.

I forgot to mention that she probably thinks I'm straight, and she's also not public about her sexuality in her current social circle at work.

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posted July 28, 2021 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ty!

Okay so Jupiter/Juno midpoint is conjunct the IC.. definitely a big past life signification right there. Same thing with Pluto conjunct the South Node. You were both of major importance to each other in a previous life, meeting one another could have been transformative then.

You have a love stellium in Gemini so the strong affection remains in this life, Chiron is apart of the stellium so there are left over wounds/karmic ties that need to be healed in this life. Maybe even literally since she is actually, physically healing your wounds right now? And this stellium is in H6, you met her at work, and the transiting Nodes have been going over Gemini for the past year. So you were both destined to re-meet again in this reiteration of your current lives.

Transit Saturn is currently squaring the Taurus North Node in H5 (house of romance) right now which can symbolize delays.

Moon is conjunct Pallas so you're both highly rational people and understand each other very well. Transit Pluto is currently conjunct the composite Moon so perhaps even this current meeting has been mindblowing for you both? The composite Moon is conjunct your natal IC so this especially has a strong effect on you.

Unfortunately, and I hate to say it, but Uranus is opposite your love stellium in Gemini, so this partnership is not meant to last in this life. It will be explosive, full of chemistry, fun, thrilling, exhilarating even, but you guys may never fall into a pace of a conventional, calm, steady long term relationship

Though I am VERY curious what will happen next year when the nodes switch into Taurus/Scorpio because it'll be going over the composite Juno, NN/SN axis, Pluto, Saturn, and it will square your composite Mars/Jupiter/Vertex. So this story still has some legs, you guys may actually get together next year, or something pivotal will happen. Will it last, maybe not? But it seems imperative for both your individual growths

Composite ASC has Neptune conjunct will less than 30 seconds... I mean that's pretty wild. So I'm not sure that you guys will ever be able to see each other clearly? It seems marred in fantasy, inspiration, whimsy

Chart ruler is Saturn at 0 degrees Sagittarius, might be interesting to see what happens when the transiting Nodes go over that point (early-to-mid December 2021)

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posted July 28, 2021 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VioletOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow athenaia! You've confirmed my intuition about this relationship, including details I already saw in my mind's eye, and the date you referenced has a very significant meaning. I'm sorry I can't articulate my thoughts right now, my brain is not as fast as I used to be. So, will come back with a proper response to your post.

But yes, I know this meeting is destined, as before it happened I thought I was going to die (I technically did, which is a whole topic on its own, I could write a book about the things I saw), doctors did not think I would still be here a few months ago. The wounds are only secondary. So I know it's significant and has a purpose. That's why I'm approaching this relationship with so much caution.

I need to get some rest because she'll be here tomorrow morning, after an absence of 2 weeks. Will update you and respond properly to your post. I've also fixed my previous post to you which was missing some text.

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