posted August 26, 2021 01:10 AM            

It deals with two such fundamental and yet very different parts of the self. These two are almost as different from each other as the left and right hemispheres of the brain are, and yet those hemispheres are strongly connected. And in astrology, though the Sun and Moon are very different, they are highly connected as well. For example, the Moon shines the reflected light of the Sun. They correspond to our respective parents, the more Yin/Female mother figure and the more Yang/Masculine father figure.

We could call it a very important point of integration and balance. But perhaps a constant balancing act taut with tension and prone to polarization until a more full integration?
http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/12/04/synastry-q-a-the-soli-lunar-midpoint/

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When someone else’s planet or light hits your Soli-Lunar midpoint, there is often an intense fascination, almost a compulsion. For a time, this person can appear to hold the key to everything. It makes sense, because for a time, that’s what they symbolize, a living embodiment of the path to your future. There is the further internal pressure to merge with this human being in whatever way possible, to take this energy within. It’s as if we are hypnotized and compelled by the evolutionary and developmental flow between the Moon and the Sun, which is now heightened by the contact.

Human consciousness often translates the need for transformation into sexual terms, and these points can be very ‘hot’ if there is an appropriate meeting of hearts and minds as well as a physical attraction. Notice I include hearts and minds. This point is not sexual in and of itself, but can be if the two people involved are able to affect one another on a deeper level. The ‘heat’ here comes from the need for psychological integration (which doesn’t sound very sexy but is tremendously intense, and at the root of all of our desire).

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posted August 26, 2021 05:03 AM            

I have a friend whose Sun conjunct my MP. He always flirt with me and I tried working up feelings for him for years but failed. 😅

My childhood friend has Venus conjunct my MP and my NN conjunct her MP. I’ve another close friend whose DSC conjunct my MP and my IC conjunct her MP. However, with my bestie and another childhood friend, we don’t have MP contacts.

With my mom, her DSC conjunct my MP. With my dad, none.

posted August 26, 2021 09:54 AM            

The problem with the Angles is one of potential accuracy or lack thereof. Even if one doesn't subscribe to the Edgar Cayce concept of the true birth chart is for the time of Soul-energetic connection to the body (which doesn't always happen at first breath), there is still the potential question of accuracy of recording. Unless one lives in a culture where astrology is widely believed and practiced, there just isn't much care or concern given to exact, super accurate birth time recording all the time (or even a lot of the time?), especially when nurses, doctors, etc are super busy.

posted August 27, 2021 12:11 AM            

In my case, it's the other person attracted to my S/M mp by square or opposition. I think it's how my chart is laid out. With the opposition/conjunction, it makes a trine/sextile to my Mercury so their other planets needs to make more significant aspects to my chart to bring my attraction alive. I need more potency, I believe. Sometimes I don't even know why some attractions don't occur.

...I'm shocked right now. I just pulled out the people I had relationships with, all have one thing in common. I didn't realized it before. It's my Moon/Venus. I seem to like when a personal planet aspecting both my M/V whether it is the square (M/V are opposed in my chart so they square at MP) or trines/sextile.

They all have their personal planets (except one - Neptune) aspecting both my Moon/Venus - one of them aspect it by MP. A guy I had a mini crush did too. I wonder if it's a double dose if someone makes a MP to my M/V because it's also a making two squares. They're the most memorable people in my life. Today I learned: I like my feminine planets being touch.

And a friend I had the hardest time letting go, her Sun aspect my M/V too! Also another friend I care for, her Moon does too. Also a couple of celeb crushes too! I think I'm getting excited with this new discovery. lol ☺️ This tells me, M/V is more important to me than S/M.

My SO does aspect my S/M but they're not by MP and it's similar, I think. Along with his Mars/Pluto MP square my Moon (which is my Venus/Pluto MP too)

posted August 27, 2021 01:16 AM            

True that birth times are tricky, and all the more I have doubts on the angles-MP contacts with some people. What if our birth times are off? Which then means we have no MP contacts. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m just feeling a bit left out. Haha.

posted August 29, 2021 06:05 PM            

People often misinterpret the MC as just career and often in an overly materialistic sense (like accumulating money, status, etc). However, the deeper meaning and level of the MC and 10th House, is that of service to the collective and public. Positive service in relation to others, in a more collective/universal way, is one of the ways that we tend to spiritually grow the most.

Hence, the MC can be incredibly significant and important of a point to those on a spiritual and conscious path. And often, in a general sense, we tend to move more towards MC/10th House energies (whether Planetary and/or Sign) as we live our life, mature, etc.

So for a simplified example, in my partners's chart, she has Venus in her 1st closest to her Asc, and Uranus in 10th close and closest to her MC. She started off very attuned to Venus, but as she lives her life and matures, shes becoming more attuned to Uranus. Part of her Soul growth plan. Venus is more personal, and Uranus is more collective/impersonal.

Part of how she is doing that, is through her job/career of teaching. This job/service has forced her to become more universal/impersonal in nature i.e. she has to look for and nurture the good/positive in many, many different kinds of students and personalities, and not just the ones she likes and most gravitates to on a personal level (Venus). Venus is personal love, and Uranus is the start of reaching towards a more universal /collective love, part of its association with co-ruling Aquarius and imo also Capricorn* (yes, I know, heresy..).

* To me, it's very interesting that Capricorn and Aquarius have a unique relationship to each other in the Zodiac. They are the only Sign pair in the whole zodiac that share a traditional ruler that are right next to each other. All the others, have multiple Signs in between them. Aries-Scorpio, Taurus-Libra, Gemini-Virgo, Sagittarius-Pisces.

Then you have the oddball Capricorn-Aquarius. And note, Sign pairs that share a traditional ruler make up the majority chunk of the entire zodiac. 10 Signs more specifically! Only Cancer and Leo are not included.

posted August 30, 2021 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Strangely my Sun-Moon midpoint is conjunct my own Midheaven.

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Same as me!

posted August 30, 2021 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
@ P.W.H., maybe it means that focusing on your career and/or service to society at large, can be one of the more powerful and facilitating ways for you to integrate these two very different, but connected sides of self that relate to fundamental Yin-Yang, mother-father, etc?

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Same as me!

As sun-moon midpoint represents inner bliss, I feel that it means mine is closely tied to my life goals/aspirations. Career is a big part of my life and sometimes it brings me more happiness than romance, but I’m not one who’s hungry in climbing the corporate ladder (MC in Pisces), but rather, it has to be fulfilling.

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@GCE and @Hikaru,
thank you for your replies! They both make sense to me.

posted September 02, 2021 07:01 PM            

In natal synastry with people, I found my midpoint triggered by conjunctions or oppositions with romantic interests or best friends, but not with family.

posted September 02, 2021 07:45 PM            

You don't have anything in the end/beginning of signs, in natal, progressed or draco?

I've bumped up an interesting old topic -
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202511.html

posted September 03, 2021 12:53 PM            

Thank you for the feedback S.V. Interesting some of those patterns for sure. I erased it, but earlier I mentioned I have some very strong S/M-MP contacts with a person. Mine is near her Moon, and hers is near my Asc. The part of the article I quoted, very much applied to how I felt.

posted September 05, 2021 04:21 PM            

My moon is at 28* Aries in an out-of-sign conjunction to Venus just barely in Taurus, less than 1*. Does that mean my midpoint is constantly changing signs? I don't understand how that would impact the progressed midpoint.

posted September 05, 2021 05:42 PM            

In turn, her S/M-MP is not only near my Asc, but also her Mars is very closely conjunct my Asc. Mars rules her Sun, 8th, and co rules her Moon and North Node.