posted November 21, 2021 05:16 AM            

thanks in advance
we are almost ready t break up but we dont
hoping it ll change but it doesnt
you think it might get better??

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posted November 21, 2021 07:03 AM            

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Originally posted by efaki94:

you think it might get better??

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Hello efaki,

Wow, what an intense relationship. To be able to answer the question I highlighted, can you post another progressed composite chart that also includes Part of Fortune as an additional object?

But at a general glance I would say things can remain how they are (on and off with continuing disagreement) until transit Chiron moves past his Moon.

Also, it's very likely that once the progressed composite moon moves from 29 to 0 degree in the next signs, things will be more stable. But still, I'd predict a few more shaky months when the transit North Node is going to pass over the progressed Moon.

posted November 21, 2021 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by @eloquent__sky:
Hello efaki,

Wow, what an intense relationship. To be able to answer the question I highlighted, can you post another progressed composite chart that also includes Part of Fortune as an additional object?

But at a general glance I would say things can remain how they are (on and off with continuing disagreement) until transit Chiron moves past his Moon.

Also, it's very likely that once the progressed composite moon moves from 29 to 0 degree in the next signs, things will be more stable. But still, I'd predict a few more shaky months when the transit North Node is going to pass over the progressed Moon.

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hey eloquent sky
thanks for yr repsonse

yep its intense but not for the good the last months.it was good intense the first two years

here is the part of fortune

yes the thing is really unstable.from day to day so many ups and downs its exhausting

posted November 22, 2021 07:46 AM            

However, due to him going under some maturity lessons at the moment, things can remain shaky for a while. He'd most likely not shy away and may even actively try to trigger fights (Chiron transitting over his Moon in Aries). Maybe if you find it in you to show some Libra qualities (tactfulness and strategic conversations) to his Aries energy, things can become less unpleasant and it may become a win-win situation!

posted November 22, 2021 07:50 AM            

Efaki, did you fall in love when Moon was making a trine with Venus in a progressed composite?

I've also noticed Pluto on Antivertex in synastry. And an unaspected Venus. The fact that Juno is exactly on Asc means that Juno is apparently enough for a serious relationship, despite unaspected Venus.

posted November 22, 2021 07:58 AM            

I've noticed it's pretty active in my relationships. E.g., I don't have anything in Pisces except for asteroids or hypothetical points. But in my synastries something significant is often conjunct my Part of Fortune in Pisces. I dated 2 guys who had Nodes exactly opposite to a degree. In one case his South Node was on my Part of Fortune, in another case it was his North Node. In other cases Draco angles were falling on my Part of Fortune.

Do you think Part of Fortune - North Node exact conjunction can be as significant as Asc-Node conjunction?

In my most life-changing relationship composite Vertex and Part of Fortune were on Dsc. Moreover, this composite Dsc-Vertex conjunction was exactly on my Part of Fortune to a degree!

In my current one, Part of Fortune was conjunct first Vertex and then Dsc in a progressed composite when a relationship started (and we have known each other for a year before that).

posted November 22, 2021 11:52 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
eloquent_sky, could you please share more about the role of Part of Fortune in synastries and composites?

I've noticed it's pretty active in my relationships. E.g., I don't have anything in Pisces except for asteroids or hypothetical points. But in my synastries something significant is often conjunct my Part of Fortune in Pisces. I dated 2 guys who had Nodes exactly opposite to a degree. In one case his South Node was on my Part of Fortune, in another case it was his North Node. In other cases Draco angles were falling on my Part of Fortune.

Do you think Part of Fortune - North Node exact conjunction can be as significant as Asc-Node conjunction?

In my most life-changing relationship composite Vertex and Part of Fortune were on Dsc. Moreover, this composite Dsc-Vertex conjunction was exactly on my Part of Fortune to a degree!

In my current one, Part of Fortune was conjunct first Vertex and then Dsc in a progressed composite when a relationship started (and we have known each other for a year before that).

But I've noticed that in progressed composites it moves in different directions in different cases, so maybe important to check if in the author's case it's indeed moving towards Asc ruler.

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What nice connections from POF to your charts in the relationships you've had!

It is indeed a big event trigger in relationships because its whole nature is based on both luminaries. It's sometimes as strong a trigger as an eclipse!

Regarding your last note, POF always moves forward in progressions because the planets involved in its calculation never go retrograde (the Sun and the Moon). And because the prog. AC moves a lot slower than the pro. Sun and Moon, this part will never start moving from where it currently is from the prog. AC. Regarding the AC ruler, while it might move away from the prog. POF if it's a fast-moving planet or a retrograde in the comp. chart, still a few degrees of orb are enough to set off the trigger for the POF, and given that at the moment we are assessing the few months ahead only, what we see is what we will get!
To check the years ahead we must check many other transits as well, and not just the POF. But rarely anyone does that because when something does not seem rational, looking at the charts is going to be a waste of time.

As with everything in astrology, several transits are usually at work when we see a specific event. One part alone does not have too much trigger power.

In efaki's progressed composite chart for instance, we are soon going to have transit Jupiter in Pisces opposite the POF/AC ruler! This looks positive. and then Jupiter will begins to go into the prog. composite 7th house. In my experience transit Jupiter is going to be much stronger than the part.

It's really important to note that POF in essence is mainly considered a positive trigger. I have not found it significant in breakups or divorces (I actually haven't seen too many of them). So even if it's moving away from the AC or the AC ruler, or from Venus or the Moon or Jupiter, it does not have a bad meaning for the couple. We should start checking other things then.

posted November 22, 2021 11:56 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
If the nature of the fights is rather external (something external as a trigger), maybe you can post a progressed Davison with transits. I know it's a pain to make it but I found it's super sensitive.

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I rarely use Davidson because the concept of the chart does not make sense to me (why should the middle point in time halfway from each person's birthday have a meaning?!), but your experience with it seems illuminating. I will try to check this!

posted November 23, 2021 07:37 AM            

So do you think POF on North Node in a synastry is not something weaker than planets or angles on North Node? It's such an ephemeral point, I never thought it had much significance.

posted November 23, 2021 02:27 PM            

PoF on NN or planets in syn. or com. is strong and significant. On angles, it might be a bit weaker because both are points and do not emit energy from themselves, but when it's a planet with a part/point or an angle or a cusp, the point will absorb and reflect the planet's energy. I hope this makes sense!

I will check a few Davidson charts and will come back to comment the observations on your thread.

posted November 29, 2021 04:52 AM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
my best friend and her partner also have this aspect in their composite - they’re often “fighting” about something or another. I don’t judge them for the lovers spats, though am glad she has over time learned to keep the tiffs between them; things seemed to work
best between so long as she keeps active with fitness and also got a powerful and well paid career-driven position of her own! do you struggle with feeling like equals? emotional-power struggle shouldnt have to be resolved through the other persons submission - there other ways to develop discipline and self control (without being competitive)
http://youtu.be/S7MlLwumfJQ

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Well the truth is that we don't do many things alone. Just our job.
We fight for silly things
But I think there is a deeper issue and all these fights are just the surface.

posted November 29, 2021 05:26 AM            

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Originally posted by @eloquent__sky:
Thank you for adding the requested chart. With Part of Fortune being conjunct the progressed AC chart ruler, I do not believe a breakup will happen soon.

However, due to him going under some maturity lessons at the moment, things can remain shaky for a while. He'd most likely not shy away and may even actively try to trigger fights (Chiron transitting over his Moon in Aries). Maybe if you find it in you to show some Libra qualities (tactfulness and strategic conversations) to his Aries energy, things can become less unpleasant and it may become a win-win situation!

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