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Topic: Chart reading unrequited love??
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CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 12, 2023 06:58 PM
I was just thinking with his natural possessive nature our synastry exacerbated it, with Venus/Pluto contact plus my Pluto in his 8th and Venus in his second, where his moon in Taurus is also.... in his mind probably he owns me.. thus his overreaction when I’m around other men, it’s really weird..Maybe actually i’m too cold for a Venus Pisces.. because my only credible water.. moon in cancer squares my Saturn and my already cold Venus in Aries also squares Saturn 🪐 dannnnngggggg ruuuuunnnn hahahah jk Though it would be nice to see your take on the whole synastry chart.. there are dynamics that would be nice to understand.. when reading these interpretations sometimes it only dawns on us.. things we might have overlooked that have already happened that we couldn’t articulate..then maybe I’ll go… it was really written in the stars huh 😜 IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 938 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 12, 2023 08:11 PM
Maybe someone else can help with Pluto. I almost put it along with the asteroids because is not a planet, it's smaller than the Moon and it's too far away. In your chart, the problems that you asign as being a problem of this opposition could be easily explain with Venus in Aries which is not a good position for her to be in - querrels, aggressive interaction, the burn bright, but die easily type of flame, plus that it's opposite with Saturn, and this shows a going after something, to only be dissapointed by it. But since Saturn it's in exaltation, what you learn from him it's actually beneficial for your Venus.  In this synastry, the only positive actual aspects that are significant are Suns are trine, ASCs are opposite each other, his Venus in your 7th house, Mars in 1st, your Jupiter opposite his Moon which will make for a very happy interaction, I read your charts looking at the overall themes between you two. He has the same signatures as you have in your chart. Mars in the 7th, you have it conjunct your ASC, also Venus in Aries which is the same theme as Mars in 1st/7th house. Having opposite ASC it's also a sign of a high attraction. The 7th house has to fit with the other persons 1st house or there has to be a theme in the chart of that energy so there's a chance of long term relationship, so that is what overwrites the lack of classical aspects between Sun/Moon/ASC and Venus/Mars. Although, even for this the 7th house has to fit with the other. He has Mars (passion) and Saturn (commitment and seriousness) in the 7th house and Pisces ASC, you have Mars conjunct ASC (passion), Venus in Aries opposite Saturn (seriousness in relationships) and Virgo ASC. So the mirroring aspect between you two it's really strong that's why I think this could turn into a long term relationship. But sure, the lacking of the other aspects could break it - planets not being in actual degree based strong aspects. IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 13, 2023 05:51 PM
Well said.. thank you..You are correct I felt that yin/yang mirroring effect even before I learned hi birthday. These aspects could well override the lack of classical compatibility expectations.. or maybe as we get older.. we know what we will put up with and not.. for example.. security is impt.. no relationships are perfect, compromise is needed but overall I might settle.. he might be dissatisfied (I’m not touching his moon and eventually I might get suffocated) Very good description of my Venus also.. it describes me to T as you put it.. 😉 Here’s a chart from astrotheme maybe it would be clearer.. https://ibb.co/gZDXgtR [img]https://i.ibb.co/gZDXgtR/1908-ABFD-595-C-4-F25-87-B6-566-AC2-D80-B2-F.jpg[/img] <a href="https://ibb.co/gZDXgtR"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/0yfWJYG/1908-ABFD-595-C-4-F25-87-B6-566-AC2-D80-B2-F.jpg" alt="1908-ABFD-595-C-4-F25-87-B6-566-AC2-D80-B2-F" border="0"></a> IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 13, 2023 05:54 PM
Here’s his friend who I have better synastry with .. with classical synastry goodies lol.. this is the guy I was originally pursuing hahahah..[img]https://i.ibb.co/PQcQXqB/5432-A871-82-AE-4-AD1-B554-B3-F5426-A3-E1-E.jpg[/img] IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 13, 2023 05:58 PM
By the way.. this is bad but.. I also tend to pursue someone then when I can have them.. I don’t want them anymore.. it’s very bad cause I’m a woman.. does that have something to do with my Venus in Aries? I’m also a bit commitment phobic.. if u see similar placements to mine.. ruuuunnnn hahahahIP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 938 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 14, 2023 05:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by CuriousCat333: By the way.. this is bad but.. I also tend to pursue someone then when I can have them.. I don’t want them anymore.. it’s very bad cause I’m a woman.. does that have something to do with my Venus in Aries? I’m also a bit commitment phobic.. if u see similar placements to mine.. ruuuunnnn hahahah
it does have to do with Venus in Aries ))) Venus it's passive energy, for a woman, they come to her, and it's about devotion and commitment and that comes after "you got them". If you want to work with it, you can take it one step further after you are in a relationship with him. Stay there and continue the relationship instead of leaving. It would be tempting to go after a new chase. Astro.com has the clearer chart and many options, if you want to try it. IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 15, 2023 04:06 PM
Good advice. Thanks that makes a lot of sense. I will check out the site too.I question all these classical interpretation of synastry.. Because with these 2 guys example. I feel at home and very open, mind, body, soul with the aqua guy who I don’t have a good synastry with.. While the Sagittarius ♐️ guy , I feel uncomfortable around and not very open too.. I tend to run away from his energy the even if we have better synastry like sun/Venus trine double whammy and mars/Venus conj double whammy moon/Jupiter conj etc.. I find him not very attractive.. I don’t know the saggi birth time. while the aqua guy I’m very attracted to him, he is like a magnet to me.. but we have no good synastry. But I’m wondering if the other one.. have good start but bad if we start a serious relationship…and the other one may not be off to a good start with the saggi but .. down the road it could be a better relationship. Just wondering.
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mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 938 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 15, 2023 05:31 PM
Probably he has an ASC that you don't like. Venus/Mars it's really good, but I have to say that I've had one time when I felt like that guy was loving me, but hating me for it, but it was an out-of-sign conjunction, his Mars in Aries conjunct my Venus in Taurus.The last guy I dated had Mars in Taurus. Perfect match!!! but since we don't have compatible Sun/Moons, or to ASC, with my Moon, it just feels empty. The "classical aspects" as I refered to them are really good, you really notice when they are missing. For example, with this guy we had: - opposite ASCs - my Venus-Moon in his 4th house - we have the same families, the same story, the same uncles, our parents have the same profession, his father has a step brother, just like my father, it was really weird, I thought only I have this kind of family )) his mother is a Pisces just like me, he has almost all his family living abroad, just like mine )), we both have small pets, he calls his dog as being a little loser, I call mine as being a little idiot )) crazy - his Sun/Mars/Saturn conjunction conjunct my Venus - I liked very much this combination  - his Moon conjunct my Saturn - his Moon opposite my ASC - this makes him being emotional, connected to me emotional, but since it's the gender reversed, I feel that I need to express emotional and I can't connect to him - my Sun same sign as his Venus/Jupiter conjunction in Pisces - I have Saturn in the 7th and he has Sun/Mars/Saturn conjunct in natal chart - he has Leo 7th house and I am a leo ASC conjunct Jupiter, he has Venus/jupiter conjunction And he is an Aries, with Aquarius Moon/ASC And I'm a Pisces, with Taurus Moon and Leo ASC Sun/Moons are not compatible, Moons are even square by sign, trine by degree. So even with those very good other aspects that bind people together, the missing Sun/Moon compatibility is showing. We are not together, we talked for a year and I fought for him this year, but with no success, and now I'm ghosting him because I can't take this further anymore. He doesn't get me and I can't get him. Sun/Moon conjunction or opposition it's like from soul to soul. IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 17, 2023 04:51 PM
Wow sounds almost like a twin souls connection from how you describe your similarities. The aspects did sound good but looking at individual charts, in a glance even if I don’t know so much in astrology.. mismatch sun/moon may not be as good indeed.. for me in a glance.. it seem okay with the aqua.. we have matching suns. Both airs signs and his moon in Taurus matches also with my cancer moon.. even if it did not aspect.. overall I guess so many factors are to be considered also.. and synastry can be activated or not.. someone in love with someone else may not notice someone with a very good synastry standing in front of them. Also I’m thinking individual charts and as a whole should be considered… because as with Sagittarius guy, who have same air/Fire combo and good synastry with me.. overall I wouldn’t choose him for a relationship I wouldn’t feel secure.. with too much freedom in a relationship even if our synastry says I need a lot of space and he needs too.. I think him being too outgoing (aqua Venus) would give me a huge headache. He easily talks to everybody that would be a threat to me.. while aqua guy is more introverted like me. So individual personality and preferences are also huge factor.. but you are right it any lacking element would be felt.. but then I’ve never met anyone with 100% perfect synastry. IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 2473 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted January 18, 2023 12:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by problematique: i’d be very careful about his mars in your 12H. that never gives me a good vibe. i had it and it can be volatile. you might end up as the hurt one here considering your natal placements. you are very sensitive. i’d say be very careful in this relationship and keep your boundaries. for some reason he doesn’t inspire me as trustworthy (aquarius sun and mercury in 12H) and his neptune conjunct his MC… and a pisces rising. too much neptune going on here. he seems shady. just keep an eye out. i can’t say if he loves/likes you or not but i have a feeling he’s too caught up in his own world even tho you share 5H synastry - which is nice and exciting. just be careful with this guy and check on his state of drug/alcohol abuse if there is any. there isn’t a single mix of an aquarius/pisces guy i’ve ever know who wasn’t an addict and/or very shady as a person.
Wait... (sorry CuriousCat333 for chiming in!) I am an Aqua Sun/Venus in the 12th house, Pisces ASC, Neptune square my Sun/Venus... I am not shady and especially not a drug addict (ok, I smoke cigarettes). I am very open person. I can be a bit of a loner sometimes, I dont dislike loneliness, but when I need to focus on creativity. "too much neptune" doesnt make much sense to me... it tells me about sensitiveness, loneliness, dreams, poetry, music, cinema, photography, travels, idealization, all things I feel related to in my life. I mean, I would not judge someone "shady" or "drug addict" based on this too much Neptune, without the complexity of their own natal chart in the whole of the aspects. (sorry, my observation is a bit on a personal level, lol. But as much as you cannot tell about someone's feelings based on a chart, you cannot judge someone "shady" or drug addict from their neptune. unless they have heavy Neptune square Venus together with other clearly toxic aspects involved !) IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 18, 2023 01:32 AM
Chime in anytime! 😉 I don’t think he is shady.. But I don’t even know what shady really mean.. I think his Neptune was transmuted to a positive energy.. he is highly spiritual.. He does seem to like being alone.. I like that about him.. I’m like that too..
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CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 18, 2023 01:37 AM
He is neptune dominant..He shows all the characteristics of an empath.. Empathic mirroring could be interpreted as a form of manipulation by untrained eye… but he is naturally like a mirror.. he is not like doing it on purpose.. IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 2473 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted January 18, 2023 02:22 AM
@CuriousCat333 ❤️I do completely agree with your description (well, I don't know him, but I know myself, lol ! ), he's Aqua 12th house with Pisces ASC like me!!! Your relationship looks very intense at plutonian level, and affectionate/emotional, even though it seems there are some boundaries or restrictions ? Maybe it's you who feels this more? His Saturn is attached to your ASC and square your Neptune/Lilith... for some reason this looks shy or full of doubts and uncertainties, even though you have some kind of mind connection with his nodes square your Uranus... But actually, the lilith placements are a bit weird, you feel this connection at soul level, but there's something holden back, maybe some lack of spontaneous openness ? If you have the chance, I may take a look at the composite chart... (possibly from astro.com , including also Juno and Vertex). IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 23, 2023 09:27 PM
Thanks for your time and input.. so true! It’s very emotional with him.. my relationship with different people have different effect on me with the aqua/Pisces guys it’s just very emotional.. both ways.. Here’s the composite if you have a chance! Thanks! Other expert inputs would be appreciated as well. [img]https://i.ibb.co/ZGZMbPK/B9-C9-BF17-83-A4-4-C2-F-B1-D8-90-F4088-EBBF4.jpg[/img] IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 23, 2023 09:29 PM
I don’t know how to do Juno etc.. his Juno is conjunct my moon in cancerIP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 23, 2023 09:33 PM
Here’s a better synastry with Juno etc..[img]https://i.ibb.co/BzKF3N7/CA491-F51-BD38-4-FF5-A7-D1-8-E5887-EF795-A.jpg[/img] IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 2473 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted January 24, 2023 01:32 AM
Hi darling, I would need to check the composite chart alone with Juno and Vertex to see the whole dynamic, in any case I think Juno should fall close to composite Saturn or at the Saturn/Pluto midpoint... This would suggest potential committment even though Pluto here could pose some challenges or incompatibility... but I should make sure where Juno falls... In any case, also Sun/Venus is very nice and Moon is trine to Saturn, looking very affectionate. The real issue in this composite is that Neptune is square Mars/MC... this can suggest that there may be potential infidelty or that one of the two is not romantically available or not up for committment, and with the square to MC, this fact could hinder the relationship to have a future... so this may also suggest the one sided situation... another option is that there are strong cultural differences, or issues about addiction, alchool or alike. IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 24, 2023 03:21 AM
I hope this is correct method I used. I’m not so sure.. Composite with asteroids ☄️ [img]https://i.ibb.co/jbGRXR2/E395-BCAB-5-F0-A-4350-AD7-C-53-F392111310.jpg[/img] 🙏🏼 thanks!! IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 2473 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted January 24, 2023 04:28 PM
Thank you for the chart! :-)So yes Juno falls exactly on the Pluto/Saturn-Jupiter midpoint as I had imagined... This whole aspect looks very powerful. Since it's in the 10th house, do you work together? In any case, it looks like potential powerful achievements together, as that this connection empowers confidence and fuels great ambitions. It also shows potential committment or strong common goals/common cause. This is opposite Sun/Venus, and means that your relationship is all about this synergy of pursuing a goal or achievement together, like a great team. Also, the Moon/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct the Node in the eight house! Again a powerful connection meant to achieve something or commit in a very ambitious way. The Juno/Jupiter midpoint is trine to Moon, so this whole picture would tell me that a committed relationship at romantic level is very possible and would actually play out in a powerful way. The concerning aspect is again the Neptune/Mars-MC square, with Eros square to to Mars/MC... this would unfortunately suggest some kind of "escapism" from the man's side, usually not up for committing romantically, or potential infidelty, or potential unavailability for being in another relationship, and so this could potentially show one sided love... otherwise, there could be other issues linked to cultural differences or even addiction issues. With this aspect is also possible that the relationship is very frivolous and plays out only about partying together and in a friends with benefit mood... But since the other aspects of potential union are so strong, my feeling is that either: 1) your relationship would work best at work/business/career level with no romantic involvement or 2) that you get in a longterm relationship which is quite loving/affectionate and longterm, but there will be infidelty and or 3) that despite the attraction and potentiality, the man is not up for committment. Ceres is square to the Pluto/Lilith midpoint in the 11th house, so I feel that this connection could work well in career/business emnvironment with strong common goals and also in the friendship area, but it is possible that he would not be romantically up for committment despite the strong attraction and synergy between you two. IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 24, 2023 10:42 PM
Great interpretation, thank you! We have a special situation (which I can’t write here about) but sounds about accurate, there’s no 3rd party, no infidelity, no addiction but committed to a purpose instead of another human. We kinda work together for a common goal so that’s very accurate, it’s like we have very strong emotions that we have to suppress.. so wow! Amazing how things play out in life.. it’s already written.. we are very open to each other. Thanks I can share to you maybe in private the more accurate situation if you are interested but this is great!
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CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 24, 2023 10:44 PM
I have another human, who I see more often.. I don’t get the deal with him.. we are so much alike in many ways..I could be wrong on this.. if anyone could help interpret this too… that would be amazing!Composite [img]https://i.ibb.co/TW8gBVZ/D902-D5-B4-2979-465-E-8177-F0-B4-F84-FF06-B.jpg[/img] Synastry
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CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 24, 2023 10:54 PM
So is it right to summarize after your interpretation that the aqua/Pisces guy there is a strong attraction between us and emotions and maybe romantic feelings but there’s also a block to commitment? So eventually nothing will happen, I will just get hurt.. so if I want to keep him in my life.. I better just see it as a friendship/work together for a common goal just admire him and enjoy his presence but not expect anything else.. ☺️IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 2473 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted January 25, 2023 12:48 AM
Oh I see! If you want to explain me in private so that I can make up my mind better what the Neptune/Mars-MC square could possibly mean, you have to email to the admin ("Contact us" at the bottom of the page) and they would give you my email address, cause they dont want us to make it public on here... I'd be happy to read about your story :-)I think that your last assumption is the closest to what I see in the composite chart, the block to committment, otherwise, whether he'd be up to commit, the risk of infidelty or strong trust issues could be there.... As for the new composite you have shared, it apparently looks more favourable on romantic level, with the stellium trine to Mars and to Uranus (very exciting and motivated)... Jupiter/Neptune could be very dreamy or like rose coloured glasses... and with the trine to Saturn, it potentially brings committment. But you need to be a bit careful for two reasons. Nessus is close to Mars square to Pluto... this is a bit aggressive energy, even though very sexual. but it may become abusive or trigger big fights. the Mars/Saturn midpoint is square to Chiron, this along with Mars conjunct Nessus square Pluto could signal risks of abusive behaviours, which may be just be at verbal/psychological level, but with the Mars/Pluto square there is a picture of potential toxic dynamics, with the man likely ruling or dictating in the relationship. Neptune is square to Venus and Mercury (and the whole stellium), and this could suggest that despite a strong romantic aurea or soul connection-like feelings, the dynamic of the relationship may play out more as friends with benefit. Maybe it's just matter of cultural difference if you are from different countries, but the Neptune/Venus square is usually a bit fickle, so to say. With mercury and Jupiter square involved, there may be misunderstandings or holding things back, or a different idea of the relationship and what it is really about... Mars/Venus midpoint is opposite Uranus, and this is usually an aspect for short affairs, unless there are other strong committment aspects... in the big picture, it seems there is a lovely exchange, being on the same page, enjoying each other, romantic feelings and also a strong chimestry at sexual level... The Juno/Jupiter midpoint is widely conjunct North Node, and along with Jupiter trine Saturn, this would point to potential committment. But the Neptune/Venus square and Mars/Venus mp opposite Uranus look like interferring somehow and could make things unstable or even "unclear" about long term expectations... IP: Logged |
CuriousCat333 Knowflake Posts: 69 From: West Coast, USA Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 25, 2023 12:53 PM
Thank you for your real and amazing interpretation! As always it sounds on point! With his guy there’s some level of curiosity because we seem alike, he’s always watching me too.. maybe I am ideal to him.. because I’m a little detached by nature and it suits his saggi sun and Venus in aqua.. but we’ve had a little tention since day one, we have this controlled fights.. I don’t know how to say it because we’re both trying to be decent matured indiividuals but we’ve had mini fights since day 1! I still really like the aqua/Pisces guy more, I have nothing but love for him.. he seem to love me too.. we’re both very sensitive to each other last few days I saw him.. he is like someone I want to share everything with but I can’t have.. but he is u avaialable.. not due to any other relationships because I feel he likes no one else me but he is committee to his duty. Wow! Thank you!!! IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 2473 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted January 25, 2023 04:07 PM
Yes with Neptune/Jupiter square the stellium it may also be very idealistic and also play out in a platonic way... but then you have such strong sexual attraction and chemistry, and it comes from the same energy that gives that kind of tension and fights... It could be a very exciting relationship and very inspiring and alluring on many levels, but it could also play out like a rollercoaster or even with some pretty toxic dynamics, so you have to keep this in mind...With Aqua/Pisces guy, I maybe have got an idea of what the issue is... this is so sad!!! If you still want to share in private just ask for my email address to the admin and write me right away! You're so welcome :-) IP: Logged | |