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CuriousCat333
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posted January 08, 2023 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the one sided love in synastry is it true that only the one with Venus on their side finds the other person attractive.

Like on our chart i’m venus opposite his Pluto, i am the one who is attracted and obsessed while he feels nothing. He has no venus on his side. Also I have my Mars trine his sun. So I am the one more attracted since Iam the mars(action/pursuing)
Can anyone read a chart and interpret this please. Does this indicate unrequited or one sided love..

https://ibb.co/MSBzs5c

Iam the gem sun in the chart

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posted January 08, 2023 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also I hit his 8th house with my stellium, would it have been better if it’s on his 7th house?

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posted January 08, 2023 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for problematique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where on earth did you come across such a banal understanding of astrology and just… life in general? sometimes i worry about people. “my x aspects his y so does he love me or loves me not?” “i feel everything he feels nothing” ok calm down.

astrology can’t determine whether someone loves you or not. look at how he behaves and talks and you’ll know his feelings. astrology in itself is neutral and doesn’t hold power over someone’s feelings.
venus opposite pluto is a tense aspect; it can manifest as sexual tension, obsession, push and pull etc. depends how tight it is and how every person deals with pluto energy.

mars trine sun doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll pursue him. it’s not that strong of an aspect. if you are a martian woman and you had some intense mars contacts in synastry, then it could mean you are dominant in pursuing etc.

plus this synastry chart is one of the most incomprehensible drawings i’ve ever seen. astro seek has a nicer view and a table of aspects so use that one.

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posted January 08, 2023 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, problematique, I get where you're coming from. I think there is good reason to feel frustrated with the caliber of queries that come through. Lol, good for you.

However, I do agree: the charts will show the subjective experience of feelings and sensations people will tend to identify and claim as "love".

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posted January 08, 2023 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha thanks for the replies. I am asking because I don’t know so much and would benefit from the expertise of people here. Any insight would be helpful.

Here’s the astroseek chart: https://ibb.co/54kSWFr

I am the Gemini sun, he is aqua sun..
I think he is attracted to me, but I am not sure because his Pisces ascendant is a mirroring sign, I see he mirrors every action I do. So it’s confusing. I feel like he is also the type who gets very possessive, he gets mad when I mention other guys, but I am in a fog and a natural skeptic so I am not sure if I’m just imagining things..it’s weird also to feel that we might feel the same things at the exact same time sometimes..

Should I pay more attention to synastry or house aspects? Which is heavier?
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posted January 08, 2023 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha thanks for the replies. I am asking because I don’t know so much and would benefit from the expertise of people here. Any insight would be helpful.

Here’s the astroseek chart: https://ibb.co/54kSWFr

I am the Gemini sun, he is aqua sun..
I think he is attracted to me, but I am not sure because his Pisces ascendant is a mirroring sign, I see he mirrors every action I do. So it’s confusing. I feel like he is also the type who gets very possessive, he gets mad when I mention other guys, but I am in a fog and a natural skeptic so I am not sure if I’m just imagining things..it’s weird also to feel that we might feel the same things at the exact same time sometimes..

Should I pay more attention to synastry or house aspects? Which is heavier?
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posted January 10, 2023 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So nothing?
Previous people just commented to emphasize their superiority and wow so much knowledge you guys have, you’re the most amazing people in the universe, I bet your lives are so amazing and got everything together. So people ask questions here because they already have the answers.. you can’t ask questions that you actually don’t know the answer to because experts here would be so amazed by it wow!!!!!!

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posted January 10, 2023 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for problematique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i’d be very careful about his mars in your 12H. that never gives me a good vibe. i had it and it can be volatile. you might end up as the hurt one here considering your natal placements. you are very sensitive.
i’d say be very careful in this relationship and keep your boundaries. for some reason he doesn’t inspire me as trustworthy (aquarius sun and mercury in 12H) and his neptune conjunct his MC… and a pisces rising. too much neptune going on here. he seems shady. just keep an eye out.
i can’t say if he loves/likes you or not but i have a feeling he’s too caught up in his own world even tho you share 5H synastry - which is nice and exciting. just be careful with this guy and check on his state of drug/alcohol abuse if there is any. there isn’t a single mix of an aquarius/pisces guy i’ve ever know who wasn’t an addict and/or very shady as a person.

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posted January 10, 2023 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by problematique:
sometimes i worry about people. “my x aspects his y so does he love me or loves me not?” “i feel everything he feels nothing” ok calm down.

astrology can’t determine whether someone loves you or not. look at how he behaves and talks and you’ll know his feelings. astrology in itself is neutral and doesn’t hold power over someone’s feelings.
venus opposite pluto is a tense aspect; it can manifest as sexual tension, obsession, push and pull etc. depends how tight it is and how every person deals with pluto energy.

mars trine sun doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll pursue him. it’s not that strong of an aspect. if you are a martian woman and you had some intense mars contacts in synastry, then it could mean you are dominant in pursuing etc.

plus this synastry chart is one of the most incomprehensible drawings i’ve ever seen. astro seek has a nicer view and a table of aspects so use that one.


Amazing words. Could not agree more.

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posted January 10, 2023 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sassaqua:
charts will show the subjective experience of feelings and sensations people will tend to identify and claim as "love".

Something I find interesting is that in many cases with the charts posted on this forum, the person has their houses affected by their love interest’s planets and therefore feels the energy or to put it better is attracted or addicted to the other party’s energy.

In many cases the other party has not expressed any form of interest, and in these situations it is very hard to judge the charts, because unless there is some level of interaction everything remains on paper.

We’ve even had charts (several) where that party had blocked the person, or refused to reply to them, yet they were insisting on the attraction or love because of the charts.


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posted January 10, 2023 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, this is true what you say, and general knowledge to astrologers who understand the dynamics of unrequited love.

Unrequited love is very painful. And can generate questions about how love works, and why it's not working. It can lead people here to astrology to learn more about love. Learning more can help people.

And why some of us are here: to help other people, and to develop our own learning too. It's a win-win

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posted January 11, 2023 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by problematique:

sometimes i worry about people. “my x aspects his y so does he love me or loves me not?” “i feel everything he feels nothing” ok calm down.
astrology can’t determine whether someone loves you or not. look at how he behaves and talks and you’ll know his feelings. astrology in itself is neutral and doesn’t hold power over someone’s feelings.
venus opposite pluto is a tense aspect; it can manifest as sexual tension, obsession, push and pull etc. depends how tight it is and how every person deals with pluto energy.

mars trine sun doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll pursue him. it’s not that strong of an aspect. if you are a martian woman and you had some intense mars contacts in synastry, then it could mean you are dominant in pursuing etc.

plus this synastry chart is one of the most incomprehensible drawings i’ve ever seen. astro seek has a nicer view and a table of aspects so use that one.


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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

Amazing words. Could not agree more.


girlwiththerainysoul, you agree with problematique here, whose view here actually runs COUNTER to what you generally come up with.

To explain: problematique says that it's (love) way more than what's represented in the charts. This is problemaique's main point here. And you here claim to agree?

Then though, you come along and reject a relationships when there is one aspect that you don't like.

You are not consistent GWRS, and I've seen this before with you. You don't make sense.

Additionally, I don't know why you are here. You say that you study astrology, formally. However, I don't see you using your lessons here by sharing and helping people to understand their relationships, or astrology.

Just thought I'd mention it.

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posted January 11, 2023 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand that astrology is not everything. I just want to understand our chart better. EventuLly I will make a logical decision.. I’m mercurial afterall lol..

I have virgo ascendant, so his mars is in my 1st house not my 12th.

His mars, Lilith and other planet is in my first.
We have ascendant descendant axis.

I felt like we felt the same exact feelings from the beginning but I’m a natural skeptic.. and of course I have no proof.. his a little bit empath.. I am too but then he could’ve projected his feeling onto me .. don’t know.. so many weird dynamics here which I don’t fully understand..

I don’t know about shady.. he could be, who knows.. he seem really nice and gentle.. he’s more sensitive than me.. I speak my mind and he cry lol.. he wears his heart on his sleeve.. but yeah he could ghost sometimes ..then comes back around.. don’t know

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posted January 11, 2023 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is very jealous and possessive.. but then I could be imagining things.. Taurus moon, Pisces Venus with lots of planets on his 7th..

Wondering if his Pluto in his 7th house , would have similar feel as my Venus opp Pluto in my natal….

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posted January 11, 2023 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great - a discussion.

Are you aware the link is inactive to your charts?

I've never seen the charts anyhow.

Personally, I like to see natal, synastry, and a synastry grid. No roids or points.

If that's too complex, just do it your way, however you wanna do it.

And if you want peeps point of view to learn, please contribute questions and thoughts.

Great!

NB, might take a few days, as there's a lot going on at the moment.

I hope others come past and chime in for you

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posted January 11, 2023 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for problematique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i see his mars in your 12H in the chart you posted (placidus). you also have it on astro seek when you scroll down, it will tell house overlays.

i circled where his mars falls in and what your 12H area is.

but besides that, only time will tell. that’s just the first thing that popped up. 12H synastry can be a lot to take.

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posted January 11, 2023 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CuriousCat333:
He is very jealous and possessive.. but then I could be imagining things.. Taurus moon, Pisces Venus with lots of planets on his 7th..

Wondering if his Pluto in his 7th house , would have similar feel as my Venus opp Pluto in my natal….


it's that Mars in the 7th house. It's opposite with his Venus. He tries to be nice and all, but he is very possessive. He would like to have control over the person he is with. North Node it's there too and Saturn also. That would exacerbate everything, and all those planets also see Venus, not so much Saturn, but all of them are in opposition to Venus.

I am thinking that Venus it's a mislead in his chart. He might be delusional about his relationships and if that Mars becomes active, he might think that he has a different relationship with someone than it really is, becoming possessive, stalkerish.

Jupiter it's in detriment there and it's the ruler of the ASC, so he might get lost in relationships and do everything for his partner.

Saturn rules 11th and 12th, so this might weaken the house, and it's another indicator of delusional relationships. Mercury - ruler of 7th and 4th - it's in the 12th house, another hint that he is delusional or blurring the lines between him and his partner. Sun it's also in the 12th.

You feel attracted to him because he fits your 7th house. He is a Pisces ASC and with all the other indicators for a Pisces or 12th house person, it fits with it. The ruler of your 7th house it's in Scorpio, so his 7th house Mars it's ok with this. Also you have mars conjunct your ASC. This is not one sided for sure. :|

EDITED: I would like to add another indication 5th ruler it's in the 3rd house. It's a good thing that it's exalted, but the 3rd house it's about passion. And 5th (romance) in 3rd (passion) goes a bit into the area of lust. It will not be so bad because Moon it's exalted there, but there is something.

This guy is super passionate about his partners. But a bit on the area that he might become dangerous on the long run. It's a good thing that he has Saturn in the 7th house. Maybe that will take him on the right track.

You are not in a relationship with him? Seems like a bit off that you are not, because this synastry is pretty powerfull in the sense that ASCs are opposite and you are both mirroring each other. normally, the aspects should have been degree based between Sun/Moon, Venus/Mars to be complementary.

Moon in Taurus with Moon in Cancer are really good. And Suns are trine to each other. The opposite ascendant I think would compensate with this.. And you also have the same Mars signature in your chart mirroring his.

I should note that there are some things that could break this, but there are also many other connections.

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posted January 11, 2023 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sassaqua:

To explain: problematique says that it's (love) way more than what's represented in the charts. This is problemaique's main point here. And you here claim to agree?

Then though, you come along and reject a relationships when there is one aspect that you don't like.

You are not consistent GWRS, and I've seen this before with you. You don't make sense.

Additionally, I don't know why you are here. You say that you study astrology, formally. However, I don't see you using your lessons here by sharing and helping people to understand their relationships, or astrology.

Just thought I'd mention it.


Where exactly did problematique say there is more love than charts represent? He/she clearly means charts alone show nothing. At least that is my understanding.

sassaqua, sorry to say this bluntly, but sometimes you seem almost deluded by astrology and your interpretations become shallow and all over the place, which isn't uncommon for some who delve into this topic without being prepared mentally.

I don't remember engaging with you or your posts, yet you seem offended by me somehow. Is it because I have contradicting beliefs to yours? I suggest we all try to develop some respect and tolerance for others' views.

If you're offended by me pointing out to you in the other topic, that it is not the best idea to call sex or alcoholism "unusual hobby" and yet worse contribute it to Uranus, I invite you to take a closer look at planets. Again as I said over there you are absolutely free to have your opinion and sense of a planet.

To clarify because you tossed around some misleading info about me, I never "rejected" any relationship in this forum, because I am not the one in those relationships. Anything I say or write is basically a suggestion because the person is asking for opinions. Again referring to that topic, I clearly said there are two (and not one like you claim) majorly negative aspects over there plus a general lack of anything else binding or interesting for that matter. Later another member confirmed that they feel the same way about the charts, and I was glad to read a similar take to mine.

I am entitled to my opinion, and you are to yours. If you feel offended, just ignore my comment. You don't have to engage. Let's try to protect the forum from hostility.

As to why I am here, maybe you should ask yourself that very same question. We are here because of an interest in astrology. Taking offense at something someone says which does not even involve you, makes you the most random user I have (involuntarily) engaged with over here.

By the way, in the future if you absolutely need to get my attention, you need to stop quoting me in other people's topics, because there is no way for me to keep a track of all the threads I comment on and due to my job there may be weeks that I don't check the forum at all.

Simply create a separate topic and post your clarifying questions over there with my name mentioned in the thread title. Stop derailing other people's topics for a chance at starting a dispute with me.

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posted January 11, 2023 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@CuriousCat333

Sorry for derailing your topic. I had to define some boundaries for the other user, so they know their "sass" is not appreciated when they are basically hijacking other people's threads to try to get me to comment.


I will try to look closer at your charts later today. But in general, I am with what mee_chryssa said.

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posted January 11, 2023 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a very interesting synastry. A lot of place for growth for both people.

The synastry is Saturn and Uranus heavy. And both charts are scattered so a lot of midpoints are beings impacted both ways. I was having the same discussion with one of my friends a month ago, about how I see people having more profound relationships in their 40s. I argued that usually in those cases I see Saturn, Uranus and Chiron heavily aspected as compared to Sun, moon and venus interactions that usually attract people at younger ages.

These outer planets open up worlds to you like you've never known before. In your synastry, there are also some important squares, such as from your Mercury to his Saturn, so communication is key, but some long periods of silence between the two of you may be difficult for you to handle as a Gem sun, especially at the beginning of the relationship. Let me know if I interpreted the planetary positions wrong, this is the first time I see this format of chart drawing.

I think if you are interested in him and pursue him well enough, he will most likely be open toward you. As a Venus in Aries woman, you are bound to pursue the man you like lol.

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posted January 11, 2023 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so far for the interpretations, I really appreciate your inputs. I would admit all along I was thinking most of his planets hits my 1st house.. which might explain love at first sight 😝 I just realized here it’s in the 12th. That does sound kinda bad.. esp it’s a lot of planets waaaaaaahhh.. Maybe because I have Virgo in the 1st and he has a lot of Virgo planets. Could be also the ac/dc axis. Different sites come up with different charts.

I was attracted witj him at first sight and it went both ways.. I don’t think I’ve ever liked anyone at first sight before.. also esp that that he is not what you would consider attractive..though charming (Venus in his first, conj his asc) I don’t know if he has food addiction or afflicted with illness.. (node in his 6th house) but he is kinda big.. (Taurus moon=sensual/indulgent) nothing wrong with that.. i’m the opposite..

He might have done drugs before. So that is correct.. but he is clean now.. very spiritual, churchgoing and serves community.. Neptune dominant (could be good or bad)

Maybe I got attached because he cracks me open.. with him I am maskless.. it’s all unconscious.. could be the 12th overlay? I just can’t hide anything to him.. for some reason it’s the same with him.. we are ourselves with each other.. could be our sun trine sun too.. we are like little children 👧 it’s both good and scary..but with him my emotions are very heightened.. I can feel him and he can feel me.. I’m pretty sure he is an empath..
I’ve always been a little stoic but with him boomm.. I just explode lol .. could be his neptunian energy.. so many things between us are a blur..

I’ve met many people with so much better synastry with me.. the good stuff, moon trine moon, mars/Venus , Venus/ moon etc i felt instant connection and harmoniums stuff..easy to read and get along people but I’d choose this guys over and over again.. which is confusing bec I don’t really like our synastry if u ask me.. but we are crazy attracted to each other ..

Reason I asked if unrequited is because, we are not talking right now(my fault) we pushed each other away.. double hsp’s lol but I wonder if anything on our chart would indicate I got it way worse than him..

Also,, his exulted Venus in Pisces.. I don’t think I’ve ever been loved or desired by anyone like he shows it to me.. then I start wondering if he is like that to everyone lol.. so much fog…

And ps.
I actually like that he is very possessive, jealous and obsessive… it made me feel secure.. crazy I know..

[img] https://ibb.co/yW0pDXv [img]

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posted January 11, 2023 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See if this will fly.. lol

[url]https://ibb.co/yW0pDXv[url]

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posted January 11, 2023 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://ibb.co/yW0pDXv

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posted January 11, 2023 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousCat333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[img]https://i.ibb.co/xJhYyD9/EDD83-F37-3781-4-A0-E-A9-F8-9-E7-F5980295-C.jpg[/img]

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posted January 12, 2023 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like it too when someone is a bit jealous. At least, I know that he cares.

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