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ChildofVenus
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posted February 21, 2023 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t have Moon in the 7th house it’s in the 6th house. I didn’t know people who have Mars in the 6th house actually enjoyed the arguing in regards to relationships that’s new to me. Yeah, it seems like whenever I say something you say we aren’t meant to be. When I never actually said we were. I just said that he’s someone who I enjoyed spending time with. But there are people who are together who you wouldn’t think are compatible.

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posted February 22, 2023 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if you just want to have fun with him, go ahead... it's worth it in that way

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posted February 22, 2023 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
if you just want to have fun with him, go ahead... it's worth it in that way

Yeah and you said I should be with a Leo and yet that was a complete disaster. That shows that astrology can not dictate anything.

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posted February 22, 2023 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I said - a big hassle.

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posted February 22, 2023 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Yeah and you said I should be with a Leo and yet that was a complete disaster. That shows that astrology can not dictate anything.

Don't get me wrong, but you kinda are the counteractive living proof that it works, as strange as it sounds.

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posted February 23, 2023 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Don't get me wrong, but you kinda are the counteractive living proof that it works, as strange as it sounds.

Wow you completely ignore the fact that I said I was BOTH physically and emotionally abused by this person. And all you have to say is it works? That really says a lot about you. I don't think taking astrology advice from a person like you is recommended. Thanks but no thanks.

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posted March 10, 2023 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow you completely ignore the fact that I said I was BOTH physically and emotionally abused by this person. And all you have to say is it works? That really says a lot about you. I don't think taking astrology advice from a person like you is recommended. Thanks but no thanks.

I didn't say to stay with someone that is abusing you. I'm sorry you think this way about this. I just told you some things to consider when dating someone. SUN/Moon/ASC/DC connections - conjunctions, oppositions - are found in more committed relationships when people belong to each other.

And what I said refered to the fact that you are proving that astrology works because you were in a long term relationship with someone that had his Sun opposite your Moon. Other things made it difficult, that's true, but it wasn't this opposition. Still dating this guy also proved that the lack of this connections between two charts is not a committed relationship.

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posted March 10, 2023 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I didn't say to stay with someone that is abusing you. I'm sorry you think this way about this. I just told you some things to consider when dating someone. SUN/Moon/ASC/DC connections - conjunctions, oppositions - are found in more committed relationships when people belong to each other.

And what I said refered to the fact that you are proving that astrology works because you were in a long term relationship with someone that had his Sun opposite your Moon. Other things made it difficult, that's true, but it wasn't this opposition. Still dating this guy also proved that the lack of this connections between two charts is not a committed relationship.


Sun opposition Moon isn't even a good aspect. Yeah, I felt comfortable which is why I stayed so long. That doesn't automatically mean we were compatible. Because if we were things wouldn't have ended badly and he wouldn't have treated me like crap and threaten my life. I'm just saying just because two people have good synastry. Does not automatically mean the relationship will be wonderful. Just because people have Sun/Moon, ASC, DSC or whatever else doesn't automatically mean happiness.

Another guy his Sun, Venus and Moon conjuncts my Moon and yet he just wanted to be in a poly relationship with me. Then he finally said he didn't want to be with me at all and just wanted to have fun. Because he was already involved with a couple. And the woman he was involved with they weren't even compatible. So again that proves my point I am speaking about real life experiences. The Sun, Moon and Venus conjunctions in our synatry wasn't enough connection for him to be in a relationship with me. And yet he's in a relationship with a couple (the woman that's not even compatible with him). So yeah again proves that having all these conjunctions doesn't automatically mean anything at all. Oh and his Saturn was also conjunct my DSC.

The Cancer guy and I never actually dated and it wasn't because of the synastry. It was because he has been through a divorce and wasn't ready for a commitment. That's real life and has nothing to do with astrology. I've seen couples with synastry that do not have Sun, Moon, ASC or DC aspects. They have squares and oppositions and yet they are still happy.

I don't agree that our synastry is only sexual. Because 4th house synastry isn't sexual it's about family and feeling comfortable emotionally which is something you should know. Also Moon conjunct North Node is also an emotional aspect. Just because we don't have good Moon/Moon aspects doesn't mean it's only sexual like you are saying. My Venus, Jupiter and Mercury in his 6th house. I helped him around the house when he was too tired because of his diabetes. Are you going to tell me that's sexual too? You're basing everything off on what you see in a chart and I'm saying how it actually feels in real life.

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posted March 10, 2023 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ChildofVenus, try the principle of accumulation.

Which means that there has to be many other things involved. But none of the other work without this connection, which is why I told you about this because it's a too long story to write it on an astrology forum.

Not everyone you will meet with their sun in Aquarius or Leo is a soulmate to you. That is crazy talking. There are like almost a billion people that could be your soulmate if we only take this into consideration. But all the other that make the background music will not work without this connection.

Take some long term marriages that are famous and public figures, which are in an environment that supports divorce and moving along to another one, and you will see that in every single one there is connection between Sun/Moon/ASC/DC.

Besides that, there are other things that complete the "yes, this is my one" or however you want to call it. And for this one I can't tell you which one is it because it's stricly dependent on the natal chart of the people involved - how their 7th house is, how their first house is, the other person is the one that is shown by the 7th house of the first? because that is the karma, that's the path of destiny written before we were born and it was written like that because there's that person born with you on their 7th house just as he is written in your 7th house.

And a lot more other things to consider.

It's a complex topic and needs natal consideration. There are rules, but the outcome is dependent on the natal chart.

I don't know if you understand me because I try to say it in as few words as possible.

There are some relationships that don't have this connection, but those relationships are weak and it's being seen in the natal in the 7th house when someone is prone to have meaningless relationships, but you are not in this category.

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posted March 10, 2023 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if you say it's not only sexual, then it isn't. I don't want to argue with you about this.

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posted March 10, 2023 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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if you say it's not only sexual, then it isn't. I don't want to argue with you about this.

I have Sun conjunct Moon, Moon conjunct Moon his Venus was conjunct my DSC and his Saturn was conjunct my DSC and still those connections wasn't strong enough for him to actually be in a relationship with me. I'm not only going for people who's chart is compatible with mine anymore. Because I've already been through that twice having all these wonderful aspects and it ended up being nothing.

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posted March 10, 2023 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have Sun conjunct Moon, Moon conjunct Moon his Venus was conjunct my DSC and his Saturn was conjunct my DSC and still those connections wasn't strong enough for him to actually be in a relationship with me. I'm not only going for people who's chart is compatible with mine anymore. Because I've already been through that twice having all these wonderful aspects and it ended up being nothing.

Post the synastry, please. It would be best if you know his time of birth because I feel like this guy has too much freedom in natal chart for poly relationships and even those placements are like too much air and detachment. Saturn is also in conjunct, wide or close, to all those personal planets and it shouldn't surprise you that the Sun being in detriment in Aquarius is quite evil. This guy is born during my Saturn generation. He either has the nodes in cancer/cappricorn or gemini/sagittarius.

And anyway, you have Venus in Pisces, Sun in Taurus, which is way different than his placements which are all air and very detached. Your Venus is also in 8th house, which again shows deeper connection and even if his Aquarius placements would be in a more intimate place - 4th, 8th - this would not change anything because that house would be expressed through a malefic - Saturn. It's a blocked house meanwhile yours is expressed through a benefic - Jupiter.

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posted March 10, 2023 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
even if he were a leo ascendant and had these plaenets in the 7th house, this shows a person that goes one after another, time after time, because with every planet that populates the 7th house, a new person is for that person. Shows dependency, many areas of life (house rulers) being in the 7th, shows that he/she is dependent on the partner for those things.

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posted April 01, 2023 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 20, 2023 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You said we don't have any angle connections. But my Sun falls in his 7th house. The 7th house is an angle house so that really doesn't make any sense. Also him telling me about his personal issues has nothing to do with sex.

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posted May 22, 2023 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SnowyWowy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Would it be worth it to try and work things out with this guy? I really want us to be friends but for some reason we are only able to get along for a little while. And then something happens and we fall out. But when things are going good between us it’s nice. Right now we aren’t talking.


what service did you use to create this chart?

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posted May 22, 2023 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SnowyWowy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Would it be worth it to try and work things out with this guy? I really want us to be friends but for some reason we are only able to get along for a little while. And then something happens and we fall out. But when things are going good between us it’s nice. Right now we aren’t talking.


what service did you use to create this chart?

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posted May 22, 2023 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SnowyWowy http://www.astro.com

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posted May 23, 2023 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ChildofVenus, you’re both very triggering to each other. He has a natal T-square with Jupiter conjunct Chiron opposite Saturn, squared by Aries Mars. His Mars is a point of tension in his chart that’s also conjunct his descendant, so probably there’s a risk of projecting that tension on other people. Your Aries Mercury, Jupiter and north node are triggering his Mars. This can lead to sexual tension but also a lot of verbal fights. With his Chiron involved, he probably feels very raw and exposed.

Your natal Venus is squared by Uranus and is triggered by his Virgo Moon. Your Uranus is the focal point of the tension and can cause you to feel a sudden urgency to express your needs (Venus) but his emotional responses (which are rather practical and logical) clash with your romantic needs (Pisces is the opposite of Virgo and wants big romantic gestures and idealizes love).

All in all, this is a very emotionally draining synastry for the both of you. If there isn’t enough in the synastry going on that will also supply loving energy (Moon, Venus and Jupiter interaction) and that supports commitment (Saturn preferably with Moon or Venus) than it’s likely not a sustainable situation.

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posted May 23, 2023 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@ChildofVenus, you’re both very triggering to each other. He has a natal T-square with Jupiter conjunct Chiron opposite Saturn, squared by Aries Mars. His Mars is a point of tension in his chart that’s also conjunct his descendant, so probably there’s a risk of projecting that tension on other people. Your Aries Mercury, Jupiter and north node are triggering his Mars. This can lead to sexual tension but also a lot of verbal fights. With his Chiron involved, he probably feels very raw and exposed.

Your natal Venus is squared by Uranus and is triggered by his Virgo Moon. Your Uranus is the focal point of the tension and can cause you to feel a sudden urgency to express your needs (Venus) but his emotional responses (which are rather practical and logical) clash with your romantic needs (Pisces is the opposite of Virgo and wants big romantic gestures and idealizes love).

All in all, this is a very emotionally draining synastry for the both of you. If there isn’t enough in the synastry going on that will also supply loving energy (Moon, Venus and Jupiter interaction) and that supports commitment (Saturn preferably with Moon or Venus) than it’s likely not a sustainable situation.


Thank you for your input I personally don't think I'm overly emotional. People automatically assure that every person with Venus in Pisces are the same. I like art more so than romance. When we spend time together physically it feels comfortable. In our composite chart, we have Venus trine Saturn.

At one point I was verbally argumentative with him. He's never been verbally abusive toward me. But since Saturn started transiting my 7th house I became self-aware of my behavior. And have been going to therapy which has really been helping me with my issues.

In regards to communication, things seem to be better. Since I've stopped all the dramatics. He's also been going through a lot. His mother is sick, he lost his job and his friend assaulted him. And he's told me about all of this. I have offered him my support. I give him space and check on him periodically I believe self-aware is key.

Those aspects you mentioned in his chart can also indicate him being abused by others (depending on the synastry). Hence the situation between him and his friend her Saturn square his Mars. In our synastry, my Saturn trine his Mars and I would never put my hands on him.

My mother is a Virgo Moon so I guess we have the same issues with my Uranus? It doesn't seem like an issue with her. But maybe it's different because she's my mother. I know they express their love in a practical way I've lived it my entire life.

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posted May 23, 2023 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the end, synastry doesn’t decide the relationship, it’s the maturity of the people involved.

I don’t think you’re overly emotional but he might trigger some of your needs and emotions in a certain way that can be frustrating or draining. It doesn’t mean one person is wrong and the other is right. Even though you have a Pisces Venus, it’s the aspects to your planet that will influence how this energy can find it’s outlet. However, the sign still influences certain qualities and pitfalls. Pisces Venus can be a very artistic placement. It’s one of the expressions that are very suited for this energy. One of the possible pitfalls is that you see relationships for what they could be, not for what they really are. This doesn’t have to be the case here though. This is for you to feel if that might be a factor in your own situation.

I don’t think that Astrology is best used as a deterministic tool but as a way to better understand yourself and the interaction you have with other people. You take from it what is best suited to your own experiences and understanding. This is why I offer my perspective on the synastry, it might help you in understanding your situation. But if not, that’s no issue either.

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posted May 24, 2023 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In the end, synastry doesn’t decide the relationship, it’s the maturity of the people involved.

I don’t think you’re overly emotional but he might trigger some of your needs and emotions in a certain way that can be frustrating or draining. It doesn’t mean one person is wrong and the other is right. Even though you have a Pisces Venus, it’s the aspects to your planet that will influence how this energy can find it’s outlet. However, the sign still influences certain qualities and pitfalls. Pisces Venus can be a very artistic placement. It’s one of the expressions that are very suited for this energy. One of the possible pitfalls is that you see relationships for what they could be, not for what they really are. This doesn’t have to be the case here though. This is for you to feel if that might be a factor in your own situation.

I don’t think that Astrology is best used as a deterministic tool but as a way to better understand yourself and the interaction you have with other people. You take from it what is best suited to your own experiences and understanding. This is why I offer my perspective on the synastry, it might help you in understanding your situation. But if not, that’s no issue either.


I understand and I do appreciate your feedback. I think maybe he and I could learn something from each other. Whether we are in a romantic relationship or not. I just don’t think it’s only sexual like the other commenters were saying.

You’re right he has triggered me that’s how I knew I needed to get therapy and help for unresolved trauma that I’ve ignored for years. There were times when I would lash out at him and say mean things. I would excuse him of treating me badly like other people. And then I’d yell him about how other people have done certain things to me in the past. I’m glad I finally decided to get therapy I’m still getting use to it. I feel like maybe we were meant to meet each other for personal growth.

I notice that me and his mother have similar charts. We both have Aquarius and Pisces placements she has Venus and Mercury in Aquarius and she’s a Pisces Sun. So he’s used to Pisces and Aquarius energy.

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@ChildofVenus, I’m probably a bit of a romantic by heart and feel that people come into our lives with special purpose all the time. Not just lovers, but friends and teachers as well. Some of them will stay around for a long time, some only for a brief moment. Any kind of relationship will offer us the opportunity to learn from each other and become aware of our projections. I think it’s a very good sign you started therapy to work on yourself. Don’t worry too much about your synastry, your personal growth is more important.

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