posted February 08, 2024 07:36 AM
Thank you for starting this topic, Moon <3 It sounds like your most recent Plutonian love binding is a repeat of that past lesson.I think Plutonian love is everlasting and actually not best for bedroom frolics!
I never had a significant romantic connection without Pluto aspects, and most of them have ended on good terms. Two moon-Pluto connections (this thread is so helpful btw) were complete limerence, although only one was unrequited, and both were deeply painful and the most transformative connections of my life - I was the Pluto in these situations, but they both have their Pluto opposite my sun.
With close friends and family, I find Jupiter contacts to Pluto can overcome almost anything else. Very positive. I suppose it is the transformative power of Pluto becoming benevolent in the light of Jupiter. However, if Pluto conjuncts an angle, or there are DW hard Pluto aspects, those might be too strong even for Jupiter to handle.
Pluto on the AC or DC, IME, has correlated with physical abuse when there was also Pluto-Saturn aspect and Pluto square sun.
My former spouse and I had my Mars opposite his Pluto and after a period of no contact we are happily friends again. I will always love and support him, and I know he will do the same for me. Strange because you would think Mars-Pluto would be the worst, and it's tight (1 degree), but I think our DW Saturn-Venus conjunctions win out. Especially because my Venus conjuncts my moon and his conjuncts his sun, so we have luminaries on top of that. My Pluto in his 12th, his in my 3rd.
Another ex I'm still friends with, and who I think has never gotten over me, we're close enough in age that our Plutos are conjunct, and aspect both of our Saturns and my Uranus/Neptune. This was another situation where we had a period of no contact and then rekindled a distant friendship. Our Plutos in my 5th, his 7th.
But both those people have Sag and Aqua luminaries (lol yes one is Sag sun/Aqua moon and the other vice versa, I have a type!) and I think those placements are so peaceable and sweet, not the type to burn bridges unless they're forced to. And my Taurus Venus wants to hold onto everyone I love forever lol there's no escape!
But the two limerent situations both had their Pluto opposite my sun, one with my Pluto conjunct their moon and the other with my Pluto trine their moon/Chiron/Jupiter.
The Pluto/Moon conjunction, the feelings were mutual but we weren't able to manifest the connection in the 3D due to insecurities/projection/shadow etc. This one did not end well but I am still hoping for a heart-to-heart conversation that will give us both closure. My anger has finally dissipated enough for me to feel more tenderness again. Our Plutos in my 5th, his 1st.
The Pluto/Moon trine was totally unrequited (he didn't feel the same), although I think he did like me back in the beginning. I dreamed about him for many years after - like you, Moon, I stayed stuck on him even after I got married. We were never on bad terms, but we also never really even became more than colleagues/classmates/acquaintances. I guess we were close enough that he invited me to his wedding. He is extremely emotionally perceptive (for a man) and always kept his distance from me I think because he sensed my feelings. Yet he always remained respectful and compassionate, and I feel so honored and grateful for that. We haven't spoken in many years (he doesn't do social media) but he is polite when I reach out but has strong boundaries. So we are not friends per say but we are not on bad terms. Our Plutos in my 5th, his 3rd.
My current crush, their Sun/Moon trine my Pluto and I think at first they liked me more but now the tables have turned. Runner/chaser switcheroo but I am smarter now and not chasing! We'll see how this turns out, they are a double Pisces with Libra AC so I think they will want to keep the peace, but I am extremely hurt by them ghosting. But their Pluto trines my AC and squares my Chiron, so no surprise I guess. My Pluto in their 2nd, theirs in my 4th.
I had a very close, toxic codependent relationship with a friend. Our Plutos are conjunct, squaring my Saturn and his Mercury, and sextile his Moon/Jupiter and our generational Neptune/Uranus. Things ended once, not fighting but total emotional depletion on my end and feeling abandoned on his, and we didn't end on a bad note exactly but things were also not good. We didn't speak for years and then reconnected and now we've both grown to where we can have a healthier relationship I think, and that's been very healing for both of us. Our Plutos fall in my 5th, his 12th.
My Pluto also actually squares the moon of my most intimate friend, also trines her Jupiter. Her Pluto sextiles my Jupiter. I think the Jupiters overpower any Plutonian negativity. I don't feel obsessed with her like one is supposed to with the moon square, but it is a very significant connection for both of us. She wanted me to come live with her post-breakup. My Pluto in her 2nd, hers in my 4th.
The same with another close friend of mine - I think she is more attached to me than I am to her - my Pluto trines her moon, her Pluto opposes my Moon/Venus. Hers in my 4th, mine in her 11th. She has also invited me to come live with her post-breakup.
So it's interesting both my close friends whose Plutos fall in my 4th have asked me to come live with them and provide emotional support after significant breakups. They see me as surrogate mother/partner.
My relationship with my sister has been one of my most challenging in my life and my Pluto squares her sun, trines her Saturn, while her Pluto squares my Jupiter. But we have both healed a lot and worked through things and are closer than we've ever been, which is really nice. But I have to say I was awful to her growing up and the way I treated her is probably the biggest regret of my life. I think the sun-Pluto square is partly to blame, although of course there are other factors. Our Plutos both in my 5th and her 7th. Actually mine is conjunct (3 degrees) her DC, so that's likely a factor.
But on the flip side, I am the sun in a Pluto-sun square with my dad and we have always had a lovely, harmonious relationship. However, my Pluto trines his Jupiter so I see a pattern emerging there with Jupiter contacts. Mine in his 3rd, his in my 1st.
The most damaging relationship of my life was with my mother and again I was the sun with her Pluto squaring it, but on top of that her Pluto opposed my Saturn. At the same time, my Pluto was conjunct her AC, squared her moon, and sextiled her Jupiter. So I think DW hard Pluto aspects are really difficult to overcome, but there's a lot more at play with that one - mainly nodal lessons. Her Pluto in my 2nd, mine conjunct her AC.
I also had a classmate once with his moon exactly opposite my Pluto and I absolutely loathed him. He is more like a shadow mirror though, as we have DW sun opp moon. Our Plutos pretty close, in my 5th and his 12th. The hatred is mutual lol. So the same house overlays as with my codependent friend.
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