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Topic: should i cut him off?
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 21, 2018 07:05 AM
would really appreciate a yes or no answer to this event chart. i just need interpretation on this. i tried doing the horary myself but couldnt. simply speaking, i need to know if i should disappear on this guy, he's not a friend yet, it's complicated.
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2018 09:06 AM
my interpretation: im asc so Saturn. saturn is in cap. he’s almost a friend, 11th house which is in cap. Answer is no? i guess.Anyone? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5473 From: saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 22, 2018 11:17 AM
are you asking advice from an event chart?? am confused. IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2018 01:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407:
are you asking advice from an event chart?? am confused.
my understanding is that for horary, you create the event chart at the time your question came up. my question was at the time: should I cut him off? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5473 From: saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 23, 2018 02:33 AM
An Event Chart is not the same thing as an horary chart.An Event chart is a chart that is cast if you want to know more about a particular Event, it can be a marriage, a first meeting etc, whereas a horary chart is one which is cast to answer personal questions, however there are rules which I'll not get into here. I take it's a horary chart then? TBH your OP is confusing, you said that you weren't able to do the horary yourself, do you mean interpretation not the horary chart itself? Also that he is not a friend yet? then you said he is almost friend!?? Anyways a quick glance at your horary chart and I'd say if you are thinking that you should cut him off,it's probably the right thing to do. IP: Logged |
HappyLoewe Knowflake Posts: 303 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted June 23, 2018 08:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro: would really appreciate a yes or no answer to this event chart. i just need interpretation on this. i tried doing the horary myself but couldnt. simply speaking, i need to know if i should disappear on this guy, he's not a friend yet, it's complicated.
Hikoro, please clarify who this guy is? Is he a crush or a teacher or a neighbour, etc.? I need to confirm which house to use to apply for him. He could be 7th (romantic), a crush (5th), neighbour (3rd), we know he's a not a friend which would be 11th. But, please confirm. IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2018 11:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by HappyLoewe: Hikoro, please clarify who this guy is? Is he a crush or a teacher or a neighbour, etc.? I need to confirm which house to use to apply for him. He could be 7th (romantic), a crush (5th), neighbour (3rd), we know he's a not a friend which would be 11th. But, please confirm.
Thx! it’s difficult to explain but he’s not a friend but more of an acquaintance? at the same time, there’s some weird feelings that I can’t explain. i actually posted synastry and composite charts here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/007947.html i don’t know what happened over the weekend but, I just got this rush of realizations and I think I should cut him off. there are things he has said and beliefs he has that I find very condescending and patronizing towards women/myself. he disguises these sayings by just kidding jokes. you know like when someone says something that comes across as mean but then excuses it with 'just kidding'. I think he borders into being a jerk. I still would like to know what you see from the chart though IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2018 12:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: An Event Chart is not the same thing as an horary chart.An Event chart is a chart that is cast if you want to know more about a particular Event, it can be a marriage, a first meeting etc, whereas a horary chart is one which is cast to answer personal questions, however there are rules which I'll not get into here. I take it's a horary chart then? TBH your OP is confusing, you said that you weren't able to do the horary yourself, do you mean interpretation not the horary chart itself? Also that he is not a friend yet? then you said he is almost friend!?? Anyways a quick glance at your horary chart and I'd say if you are thinking that you should cut him off,it's probably the right thing to do.
yes, it's a horary chart. he's not a friend because i dont consider him a friend. he's just an acquaintance. it takes me a long time to consider someone as part of my inner circle and yes, it is a yes/no horary chart. i tried doing the interpretation myself. initially, i thought the answer as no but then, moon is in libra which squares cap. i think this might be significant IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5473 From: saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 24, 2018 08:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro: yes, it's a horary chart. he's not a friend because i dont consider him a friend. he's just an acquaintance. it takes me a long time to consider someone as part of my inner circle and yes, it is a yes/no horary chart.i tried doing the interpretation myself. initially, i thought the answer as no but then, moon is in libra which squares cap. i think this might be significant
Okay. Still yes for me. I took the 11th house anyways, and I would still take the 11th, it also represents acquaintances, SN is in the first conjunct Mars,both sigs retrograde not aspecting each other. IP: Logged |
HappyLoewe Knowflake Posts: 303 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted June 24, 2018 12:43 PM
He's 11th house (riends, acquaintances, hopes, desires and wishes, etc.) which makes him Jupiter RX in the 10th. He is trining Venus in the 7th house - is he definitely confirmed as single? Is there anybody else that he is either casually seeing or talking to perhaps? To answer your question, there is nothing happening between your significators (you being Saturn RX in 12th) and you get no support from the Moon. I think you might cut him off but then he changes his behaviour (he is Jupiter retrograde right now so once Jupiter goes direct on 11 July he may seem like a slightly different person). You are also retrograde and sitting in the 12th so you might also change your mind about how you see him. The chart says yes but to cut him off but also that another chance to approach things differently at a later date. Let us know what happens please. IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2018 01:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: Okay. Still yes for me.I took the 11th house anyways, and I would still take the 11th, it also represents acquaintances, SN is in the first conjunct Mars,both sigs retrograde not aspecting each other.
thank you so much. do you mind doing it with the 5th house?
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2018 01:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by HappyLoewe: He's 11th house (riends, acquaintances, hopes, desires and wishes, etc.) which makes him Jupiter RX in the 10th. He is trining Venus in the 7th house - is he definitely confirmed as single? Is there anybody else that he is either casually seeing or talking to perhaps? To answer your question, there is nothing happening between your significators (you being Saturn RX in 12th) and you get no support from the Moon. I think you might cut him off but then he changes his behaviour (he is Jupiter retrograde right now so once Jupiter goes direct on 11 July he may seem like a slightly different person). You are also retrograde and sitting in the 12th so you might also change your mind about how you see him. The chart says yes but to cut him off but also that another chance to approach things differently at a later date. Let us know what happens please.
thank you so much. you're right. he's just casually dating one or two girls. why do you ask? he's not committed but not single either. btw, he has venus square uranus so i wouldnt even go there (dating) with him at all. additionally, he's away for business reasons. so, i dont know how things will play out. as in, if we will see each other after july 11 or before. one thing is for certain, once i cut people off, they're gone for good. do you see anything differently with the 5th house? im not crushing on him, but there's some unexplainable mixed feelings. of course, that could be just the pluto contacts i will keep you updated.
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5473 From: saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 24, 2018 01:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro: thank you so much. do you mind doing it with the 5th house?
Well there is something 'wrong' with this guy, pent up anger, frustration, opinionated , but Sun is in your 5th,semi aggressive or well disguised romantic overtures,opposing saturn ret, that's not to your liking,moon sq sun,sat and mars is in 1st conjucnt SN. Moon has gone through a lot,ego clashes, etc however this chart shows an unhealthy attraction somewhere, but nothing that will last,mars conjunct SN in first is for me = RUN. nevertheless this is horary, life circumstances can change. IP: Logged |
HappyLoewe Knowflake Posts: 303 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted June 24, 2018 02:20 PM
If you were to use the 5th you are opposite each other and oppositions usually means stagnation or nothing happening or a delay to any change. He seems wrapped up in himself and enjoying the attention from speaking to people in general terms. IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2018 09:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: Well there is something 'wrong' with this guy, pent up anger, frustration, opinionated ,
all of this.... quote: but Sun is in your 5th,semi aggressive or well disguised romantic overtures,opposing saturn ret, that's not to your liking,moon sq sun,sat and mars is in 1st conjucnt SN. Moon has gone through a lot,ego clashes, etc however this chart shows an unhealthy attraction somewhere, but nothing that will last,mars conjunct SN in first is for me = RUN. nevertheless this is horary, life circumstances can change.
not all clear about the details but...like, what do you mean by having an unhealthy attraction? maybe it's not towards me but towards someone else? like, im aware he's dating someone who is so much younger and still naive and that rubs me the wrong way. i can say that he seems to enjoy the attention of having women around him...and something tells me that he could turn out to be domineering, controlling and 'putting you down' if you dont set boundaries IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2018 09:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by HappyLoewe: If you were to use the 5th you are opposite each other and oppositions usually means stagnation or nothing happening or a delay to any change. He seems wrapped up in himself and enjoying the attention from speaking to people in general terms.
exactly
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5473 From: saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 25, 2018 03:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro: not all clear about the details but...like, what do you mean by having an unhealthy attraction? maybe it's not towards me but towards someone else? like, im aware he's dating someone who is so much younger and still naive and that rubs me the wrong way. i can say that he seems to enjoy the attention of having women around him...and something tells me that he could turn out to be domineering, controlling and 'putting you down' if you dont set boundaries
okay , well if you follow the dispositors and the moon trail although the main sigs are not in aspect, you are in the 12th, makes me think he doesn't 'see' you, or he doesn't know how you feel about him, Sat oppose Sun could bring a huge argument between you two soon, but not before you soften a bit towards him - moon in libra, Jup Rx is flowing towards the moon,though dispositor in leo, Sun controls the moon, tells me that may be there are things that you are not acknowledging to yourself, and Sun is in his 7th house,he is consumed by himself! bordering on narcissism, mars,dispositor of Jup in the first though, again tells me he has gotten under your skin so to speak..I usually follow the trail, but for me the end point is SN in the 1st. It will bring heartache to you. Just cut him loose and don't look back and see what happens.
Hope I helped somehow and keep watching your back, I feel you are a really determined and strong person. IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 25, 2018 08:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: okay , well if you follow the dispositors and the moon trail although the main sigs are not in aspect, you are in the 12th, makes me think he doesn't 'see' you, or he doesn't know how you feel about him, Sat oppose Sun could bring a huge argument between you two soon, but not before you soften a bit towards him - moon in libra, Jup Rx is flowing towards the moon,though dispositor in leo, Sun controls the moon, tells me that may be there are things that you are not acknowledging to yourself, and Sun is in his 7th house,he is consumed by himself! bordering on narcissism, mars,dispositor of Jup in the first though, again tells me he has gotten under your skin so to speak..I usually follow the trail, but for me the end point is SN in the 1st. It will bring heartache to you. Just cut him loose and don't look back and see what happens.Hope I helped somehow and keep watching your back, I feel you are a really determined and strong person.
thank you so much. should have followed my initial instinct instead of wanting to be nice and not wanting to make someone feel bad for rejecting them. im working on this.
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5473 From: saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 26, 2018 07:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro: thank you so much. should have followed my initial instinct instead of wanting to be nice and not wanting to make someone feel bad for rejecting them. im working on this.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 105399 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 27, 2018 12:30 PM
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2018 10:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407:
update. so i was feeling really happy thinking that he had gone his own way but now he's back. do you have any suggestions as to how to cut him off? ivent responded yet. i can either ghost him or tell him that im busy (which is true) or that he made me feel uncomfortable and i dont want to hang out anymore. very blunt. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5473 From: saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 25, 2018 02:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro: update. so i was feeling really happy thinking that he had gone his own way but now he's back. do you have any suggestions as to how to cut him off? ivent responded yet. i can either ghost him or tell him that im busy (which is true) or that he made me feel uncomfortable and i dont want to hang out anymore. very blunt.
If you are firm and if you do not want to have someone like him around you, you could straight forwardly tell him you don't want to hang out with him anymore, but I've noticed that some guys have issues accepting that they are not desirable so doing that might attract more attention towards you and I usually find these kind of guys increasingly more annoying and I completely lose respect for them. But the most annoying thing is that they take up so much of your energy! IDK may be you could ignore him for a bit like he is not that important for you to actually take time to answer him. I mean I'm a bit like that, I will never answer someone I don't feel like talking to not because I do not want to but because I don't find the time to actually formulate a message, I only answer people that are important to me,for whom I will make time even in the busiest schedule - I hate meaningless chatting or back and back texting or face-booking or whatever because I just don't see the point. So I don't know whether I'm the right person to give you advice. IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2018 07:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: If you are firm and if you do not want to have someone like him around you, you could straight forwardly tell him you don't want to hang out with him anymore, but I've noticed that some guys have issues accepting that they are not desirable so doing that might attract more attention towards you and I usually find these kind of guys increasingly more annoying and I completely lose respect for them. But the most annoying thing is that they take up so much of your energy!IDK may be you could ignore him for a bit like he is not that important for you to actually take time to answer him. I mean I'm a bit like that, I will never answer someone I don't feel like talking to not because I do not want to but because I don't find the time to actually formulate a message, I only answer people that are important to me,for whom I will make time even in the busiest schedule - I hate meaningless chatting or back and back texting or face-booking or whatever because I just don't see the point. So I don't know whether I'm the right person to give you advice.
i completely read you. im the person who just disappears. the issue of being blunt is that he knows people who know me.... so maybe it is easier to just ghost him
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 105399 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2018 01:19 PM
Ghosting him is probably best.IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2018 08:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Ghosting him is probably best.
thx!
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