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Topic: Aspects in horary
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Snake Lady
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posted September 28, 2011 12:32 PM
  
So if I did a horary chart asking if it's a good idea to pursue someone romantically and the significators for both of us were in a square aspect, even though they are moving towards each other, does that mean no? Plus his significators is in the twelfth house along with the moon. Does that mean that he is keeping some secrets from me? I'm in the second house... Not sure what that means. I'm just very new with this so if someone could shed some light on it I would appreciate it.------------------
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cappy1277
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posted September 28, 2011 01:15 PM
square doesn't necessarily mean no...just may mean obstacles to getting what you want. The 12th house is his 6th house...you are in the 2nd house but it's 8th house- you may be obsessive about the outcome. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted September 28, 2011 03:25 PM
Aspects in horary mean action, they mean something will happen between the two significators. A square doesn't necessarily mean NO. It depends on the dignities of the planets and the reception between them and a few other things.
His position in your 12th house could mean several things. He is either hidden from your view, acting from a subverted standpoint and so on. Your position in the 2nd house means you want security (among other things) and as Cappy stated, you're in his derivative 8th house, which could mean he's attracted to you/has a sexual interest in you. But these are just guesses. Post the chart. ------------------
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Snake Lady
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posted September 28, 2011 04:40 PM
I don't know how to post the chart so here is the info.
September 28, 2011
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Austin, TX, USA
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Snake Lady
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posted September 28, 2011 04:52 PM
And cappy I am rather obsessed with the results... Working on chilling that down.. Lol.IP: Logged |
cappy1277
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posted September 28, 2011 05:50 PM
Does he know that you're interested in pursuing him? If not, that may be the reason for the positions in the 12th house. He doesn't know. IP: Logged |
Snake Lady
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posted September 28, 2011 05:57 PM
I don't think he knows for sure. But I definitely know that he's interested in pursuing me. ------------------
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cappy1277
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posted September 28, 2011 10:01 PM
this is what I got using equal house and only using the traditional rulers.
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Snake Lady
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posted September 30, 2011 03:24 PM
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Ceridwen
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posted September 30, 2011 03:54 PM
This is crazy, I have just been working on a horary of mine! And was thinking about the square and opposition as NO-answers, especially given som3333e very interesting dignities.But well, like the others I am inclined to think that the square does not need to mean NO, just obstacles and maybe even delay, mayber other people interfering
BTW in horary charts Regiomontanus is the used housesystem.
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Ceridwen
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posted September 30, 2011 04:11 PM
Hmm, looking at his significator in your horary, Venus is in Libra in his turned 5th house - he seems preoccupied with love,r omance, fun and a loveinterest, could be you or another.
But Venus is in the exaltation of Saturn AND is going to conjunct Saturn! To me it seems as if he has an intense interest in whatever Saturn represents. (I read it can often be an ex).
Is there someone looming in the shadows?
Sun, the significator of the man´s "mojo" is also in Libra in his sign and again putting Saturn onto a pedestal
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Now what about you?
You are Mars in Leo, since Sun represents him, you are very much into him, strong attraction.
Usually you would also be given Venus as the woman, but this one is already taken by him.
But Moon is your cosignificator in 11th house, so you are very much occupied with your hopes and wishes, and in libra, ruled by Venus (him) it shows again your attraction toh im. Moon is the main significator for the results of your question though. It is void of course, which means nothing is going to happen. At least not in the next months. Saturn is in his 5th house and ruling his turned 9th house - so I get the feeling he has got an interest in someone else, maybe someone who is far away, travelling or even from college / university or similiar institutions. BTW I do not see any aspect betweeny our significators.
I am sorry. I really do not see a positive answer in this horary. 
But then again, I could be totally wrong.
maybe hera can jump in here.
EDIT:
I know some would consider the ruler of 5th house as his significator. I don´t. The OTHER in a direct relationship is always represented by the 7th house, the house the querent (1st house) can see best. This is who we encounter.
Also, the natural ruler of the 7th house is Venus, THE relationship planet. But if I am wrong about it, and he IS the 5th house the chances might be better. In this case Mars and Venus and Moon would be assigned to you, and Jupiter and Sun to him.
Meaning that Jupiter is pretty much interested in Venus and puts the Moon onto a pedestal. 8which would be your significators).
In this case though I would be asking you, who is Saturn? Venus will be conjunct Saturn before the aspect bewteen Mars and Jupiter will perfect, and this is also a conddition, in which the answer often is No, usually because one party loses interest.
It is like Saturn captures your interest, before something really can happen between Mars and Jupiter.
On the other hand I just see that Sun, him, is sextile Mars, you. Hmm, this is a very complex, interesting situation indeed. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 30, 2011 04:23 PM
So, if he is represented by Jupiter, I`d vote for a YES-answer. If nothing happens, then probably my first idea about the 7th house was right. Might be a good test for solving this dilemma 5th vs 7th house in horary for me.EDIT
Just found this:
"Rule Number One: Know who is who. Figure out ‘who is who’ in a chart, before you try to read it! If you are asking a question about something involving you, you get the Ascendant as your ruler. If you are asking about someone else, you need to figure out ‘who’ they are in the chart: Your lost keys? 2nd house Your sister, brother, or noisy neighbour? 3rd house Your child? 5th house Your cat? 6th house Your boyfriend? Girlfriend? Ex-spouse? Worst enemy? The hot guy you saw in the supermarket? 7th house. Do not, I repeat, do NOT use the 5th house to represent a person in love questions! The 5th house can describe sexual activity, but it rarely describes the person with whom you are active! A significator in the 5th shows an interest in sexual matters or light ‘fun’, rather than a serious relationship." http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12782 IP: Logged |
Snake Lady
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posted October 01, 2011 04:11 PM
Ok, so here's the update. He's definitely been very much attracted to me, as I have been to him, and now we are officially in a relationship. I realize that I was wrong about the square aspect anyway... I don't understand what you mean about Saturn.
So far it all feels really dreamlike, because he's the kind of person that I've always wanted, and now that I finally have him, I almost can't believe it. I guess all those other planets alongside him represented me. From what he tells me, we seem to feel the exact same way for each other, and the feelings are very intense on both parts. I understand that there are challenges in any endeavor, and I will take them as they come.
I still have some fears about getting close to him.. I just feel very self-conscious for some reason. Maybe a part of me feels like I don't deserve him. That could be the Saturn influence. But, again, that's just one challenge that I'll have to overcome.
Thank you so much for taking the time to read the chart. I appreciate it!------------------
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Ceridwen
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posted October 01, 2011 04:48 PM
Ah that is wonderful! My congratulations. 
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Ceridwen
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posted October 01, 2011 04:50 PM
And it answers some questions for me I had about horaries in general 5First of all the 5th house IS a valid one to use for significators of romantic partners. Secondly void of course Moon is not always bad, but sometimes really just means: There is nothing to worry about. And yes, Satourn coulld simply represent your fearful thoughts, especially as it it rules the 3rd house of thoughts and is placed in the 11th of hopes and fears. IP: Logged |
Snake Lady
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posted October 01, 2011 06:00 PM
That makes a lot of sense. Maybe you use the 5th house when you don't know them that well.. ------------------
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Lioness
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posted October 01, 2011 06:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
And it answers some questions for me I had about horaries in general 5First of all the 5th house IS a valid one to use for significators of romantic partners. Secondly void of course Moon is not always bad, but sometimes really just means: There is nothing to worry about. And yes, Satourn coulld simply represent your fearful thoughts, especially as it it rules the 3rd house of thoughts and is placed in the 11th of hopes and fears.
From my understanding when asking about a love interest the other person is always the H7 ruler, but yes you still look at the H5 ruler, which signifies the "romance" itself.. not the two people...
You look to see if each person's romance ruler as aspects to the other person... In this chart, Jupiter is her romance and Mercury is his.
Jupiter is in his 12th and squares her and it does not touch him ( venus/sun)
So I think he is totally unaware she wants a romance with him. His h5 ruler is Mercury which has an applying aspect to mars (her)
But its only one aspect..
Neither of their h5 rulers really touch the other person. I think the Jupiter/Mars/Sun aspects shows she wants to have the romance with him.
But he doesnt aspect her.. She only aspects him. He is moving towards Saturn and moon which rules his H9/H10
Maybe he's focused on these area's right now?? Saturn is in her h11 and his H5.. Which I think also shows a delay.. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted October 01, 2011 06:21 PM
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Snake Lady
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posted October 02, 2011 06:02 PM
He WAS unaware of my desire at the time so that makes sense. But all the delay stuff doesn't make much sense to me... ------------------
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Snake Lady
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posted October 02, 2011 06:02 PM
He WAS unaware of my desire at the time so that makes sense. But all the delay stuff doesn't make much sense to me... ------------------
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