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Lotis White
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posted June 21, 2011 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the question concerning houses. I have always used plascidus, and it hasn’t failed me yet.

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posted June 21, 2011 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5th house in Pisces, 11th house in Virgo. I give everything I receive nothing.

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posted June 26, 2011 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotis,

what do you think when someone moon falls into your 11 house.

Pisces is in my 11 house and i find myself strongly fascinated by piscis. specially if they show compassion and understanding toward my failures, i feel appreciated. moon and sun in piscis has always been a pulled. i have no planets in piscis,but i have noticed the last three people i have been interested in love has 2 moon piscis, the other is sun piscis.

now to the excercise

my 5H in virgo, my ruler mercury in gemini. yes, i feel attracted to very intelligent people and of light movement and witty. with articulated and profound mind, but very creative (mercury square uranus-pluto and sextile saturn)

I have pluto, uranus, and jupiter in 5H. needless to say that lack of humor or relaxed time is not my thing in somebody i feel attracted. normally they make me laugh. that is for sure ,no matter the differences, humor is there. but i tend to be intesivelly attracted and either i am attracted or not. nothing in between. uranus i believe makes me prone to fall in love with independent men. that has been the history of my relationships. very independent types.

as for 11 house no planets in there. piscis in the cusp. neptune in scorpio. not significant aspects of neptune. but i definitely feel that someobody loves me when they show intensity of feelings. i need that type of devotion. as i always say, i want somobody who ADORES me.

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posted June 26, 2011 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I kind of lost track of this thread I'm ashamed to say...

I was rereading what I said and trying to follow up on the following posts, when I realized something:

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Except for the patience, otherwise, with the focus being on the partner, it says Libra to me...

I'm going to blame this on the fact that it was late at night, I had a sleeping pill taken and was lying in bed typing it on my phone, because... Obviously, my focus on the parther has nothing to do with the 5th house, it being in Aries or half of it in Taurus, or even Mars being in Capricorn or the 2nd house, but with my 11th house in Libra! Silly me...

Although, if the 11th house is what a man should give me, I'm still kind of confused as to how it would be me who makes the whole "date" about the man, though... It still screams Libra to me, but for all intents and purposes it should be the man who makes me feel it's all about me... No?

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posted April 26, 2012 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been a while since this thread and a lot of new people have joined Lindaland since... So I'm bumping this thread to get more input... Please tell me your experiences people!

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posted April 26, 2012 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 5th house sign could be either Libra or Virgo depending on the house system I'm using.
I'm pretty sure It's 5th house Virgo, 11th house Pisces though.

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posted April 26, 2012 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Empty 5th house Pisces, Neptune in 3rd house.

I am really attracted and intrigued with Pisces and most of my relationships or interests have been Pisces influenced. The way I express myself is by writing mostly. I always write poems and act in a dreamy kind of way towards my love interests.

11th house Virgo with Sun and Jupiter. Ruler Mercury in the 10th house.

I feel loved when I feel protected. Also when they show interest of wanting to help me grow as a person.

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posted April 27, 2012 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thefish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me:
Gemini 5th with Mercury in Aquarius (1st)
Sag 11th with Jupiter in Pisces (2nd)
Neptune in the (10th/11th)


Her:
Pisces 5th with Venus in Pisces (5th)
Virgo 11th with Mercury in Taurus (7th)
Libra Mars (retrograde) in the 11th

My mercury square her sun in Taurus (her 7th)
My Jupiter in Pisces (2nd) conjunct her Venus in Pisces (5th) 12' 59" (extremely tight orb)
My Jupiter trine her moon in cancer (9th)
My Jupiter square her Neptune in Sag (11th)
My Jupiter sextile her mercury in Taurus (7th)
Her Venus (5th) sextile my mars (my 12th)
Her Venus(5th) conjunct my Venus (2nd)
Her Mercury trine my mars
Her Mercury trine my Ascendant
Her Mars opposite my Venus
Her Mars trine to my ascendant


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posted April 27, 2012 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Ugh, my 5th and 11th are both at 29'45...My friends are more Geminian and my romances are more Sagittarian like, so screw Taurus and Scorpio I'm going with house majority

And I'm attracted to h5 Sagittarian energy, and I definitely act out h5 Sagittarian energy in romance, complete with poking fun, and adamant about vacations and foreign trips, also fall for many foreigners and meeting partners is always easy in airports and at universities, h5 ruler is Jupiter in the 4th
re:11th the people who like me as friends are sort of fickle and we may talk off and on, not continued sustained contact, and I like it that way cos when I see them again we get together with fresh ideas so its never boring. h11 ruler is Mercury conj Dsc


Im worse my 5th 25,31 scorpio, 11th 25,31 taurus conj my first name 27 and jupiter 23,17 in taurus.
5th scorpio, Sag, capricorn.
11th taurus, gemini, cancer.

My lovelife has been complicated. Married 2 times and got 2 children with to men. Im in a new relationship now and take it really slow. Im careful. I always start my relationships as a friends. I dont think I can be in love without being friend with a man.

My house 11 including moon,venus,NN,mars

The man Im in a relationship with now has is venus on my 11th cusp.

My on and off relationship who ended couple a years ago..his eros conj lust conj my 11th cusp.

My exhusbands number 2 and biggest love, his valentine conj mars conj 11th cusp.

Im weak on pisces men with input of scorpio.

Ive friends from every sign. Maybe I feel me most comfortable with aqua friends....

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lilithpluto
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posted April 27, 2012 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm... I have my Aquarius moon in 5th house, exact trines the Gemini Venus... 5th house ruled by Uranus in Scorpio. I always like really interesting guys, different from the norm, with a bit of eccentricity and unpredictable element in them. I also like the depth in emotions in a guy.

I have my Leo Sun and North Node in my 11th house, where Sun sextile ascendant.. I believe I appear warm-hearted, devoted in love. I expected to be treated equally in the same way. A guy who showers me with reasonable attention (I'm not demanding ridiculous attention ) and romantic gestures and praises should work wonders on me.

Hi Lotis White, I know you did gave examples in your first post about Leo and Aquarius... I have been wondering for the longest time: how will one explain now that the signs are exchanged in the 5th and 11th houses. Its like both 5th and 11th house has each an element of its opposite sign and will this decreases the "favour" or strength of the house?

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posted April 27, 2012 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun and Mercury conjunct Venus in my 11th house. It's true! When someone is blunt without malicious intent...like an Aries... (Aries rules my 11th house) I tend to soften and relax and feel at ease around them, willing to do whatever. Interesting!! So excited to read the rest of the article lol.

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posted April 27, 2012 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for la_mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting thread!

11th house cusp in cancer, moon in 10th, plus venus in 11th, so receiving love would have to be a public (10th) romantic dinner (cancer) with my love and some friends (11th/venus)?

5th house cusp is in capricorn with saturn in 4th house near the IC and mars in the 5th. therefore I would work hard (capricorn) to play (5th) or fight passionately (mars) with my love interest?

gaaaah.. now I just need find some balance in this
venus/mars opposition makes one feel a little stupid in love.

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posted April 27, 2012 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The 5th house seems to represent what characteristics we are attracted to, who inspires our heartfelt feelings of adoration, who impresses and fascinates us the most, and how we in turn express these special feelings that we have for that person… when someone acts like your 5th house they inspire your love…


Well that sure explains a lot. My fifth house sign is Sagittarius and I am freaking in love with Sagittarius men. I fell in lust the moment I looked at Sagittarius Adam Brody onscreen in "The O.C.," then I went and fell for a guy who shares his birthday who has sun AND moon in Sag, lulz !

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posted April 27, 2012 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no planets in those houses. h11 virgo, h5 pisces. ruler of the 11th (mercury) is conjunct dc. ruler of the 5th (neptune) trines mercury. they both aspect pluto. mercury opposes it. neptune has the generational sextile.

iv dated both signs and prefer the virgo slightly but it's true i really go gah gah over pisces placements lol! i think my preference is just out of selfishness tho haha! i prefer to be loved.

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posted April 27, 2012 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, some posts have vanished again. What gives?

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posted April 29, 2012 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lotis,

I was reading again your post and the article you posted and i was wondering when the ruler of 11 is saturn in the partner and he has saturn square moon/mercury of his partner.

the reason i ask is because it seems to be a contradiction given the nature of saturn squring moon/mercury whith what would you expect from a partner to feel appreciated/loved.

saturn squring moon is very critical of emotional expression of the partner. on the other hand it seems that the nurturing side of that partner is what makes him feel appreciated.

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11th house cusp in Aquarius, Uranus/Saturn in 9th Sagi, Venus and Mercury in 11th - receiving love - give me space, freedom and surprise me often, travel together, have long philosophical talks/intellectual debates.
I think the travel together is a vital point. Don't like staying at home with a lover, prefer to make a journey together, even if it's just walking to the corner shop. Often when a love interest appears, the first thing that comes into my mind is, is he a good travel companion?

5th house cusp in Leo, Sun in 12th Pisces, empty 5th house,
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I adore men who are generous and gregarious, and nothing delights me more when a men beams at me. Some guys like to give me sultry looks but that creeps me out. It's the hearty smile that really sets my heart throbbing. In turn I'm more playful and generous around them.

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People who have a strong 11th house tend to put a lot of focus on what behavior makes them feel special and appreciated, and what gives them a sense of belonging. They are interested in what they want a lover to ‘bring to the table‘, and the treatment they wish to receive from them. Strong 11th house people have clearly defined ideas about the type of attention they want, and look for people who are able to fulfill these requirements

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With my empty 5th house, when it came to describing how I would be expressing my own love for others, it was kind of a struggle to find a way to put it into words
I can relate to these.

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posted May 22, 2012 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by friture:
11th house cusp in Aquarius, Uranus/Saturn in 9th Sagi, Venus and Mercury in 11th - receiving love - give me space, freedom and surprise me often, travel together, have long philosophical talks/intellectual debates.
I think the travel together is a vital point. Don't like staying at home with a lover, prefer to make a journey together, even if it's just walking to the corner shop. Often when a love interest appears, the first thing that comes into my mind is, is he a good travel companion?

5th house cusp in Leo, Sun in 12th Pisces, empty 5th house,
giving love -
I adore men who are generous and gregarious, and nothing delights me more when a men beams at me. Some guys like to give me sultry looks but that creeps me out. It's the hearty smile that really sets my heart throbbing. In turn I'm more playful and generous around them.

[QUOTE]With my empty 5th house, when it came to describing how I would be expressing my own love for others, it was kind of a struggle to find a way to put it into words


I can relate to these.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the awesome post. The description of both your 11th and 5th house and how you relate to them, this is precisely what I was looking for.

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posted May 22, 2012 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
Hi Lotis,

I was reading again your post and the article you posted and i was wondering when the ruler of 11 is saturn in the partner and he has saturn square moon/mercury of his partner.

the reason i ask is because it seems to be a contradiction given the nature of saturn squring moon/mercury whith what would you expect from a partner to feel appreciated/loved.

saturn squring moon is very critical of emotional expression of the partner. on the other hand it seems that the nurturing side of that partner is what makes him feel appreciated.


Hey Nordicsoul,

I’m assuming in this situation he has Saturn ruling his 11th square your Moon/Mercury? Well with Capricorn on the 11th no nonsense dedication, almost fanatical loyalty, and a willingness to be practical and reasonable about things together, would make this person feel appreciated, and accepted.

With his Saturn square your Moon/Mercury sometimes he may feel you are ‘too much’ in your expression, but at the same time there is also the sense that he would like that you’re a little too much because it’s a symptom of how much your care. Kind of like when a kid rolls their eyes and tells their mom not to worry about them, when really the kid is glad that mom does worry because it shows how much she loves. There is a possibility that sometimes your emotional and mental expression may wear on his nerves and times and he may become standoffish and need space. That does not mean that he doesn’t care, sometimes people just need a break. More then likely this person appreciates your nurturing attitude and the amount of thought you give to his well being, even if he does grumble about your behavior from time to time.

It's been a while so I hope you read this.

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posted May 22, 2012 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Well that sure explains a lot. My fifth house sign is Sagittarius and I am freaking in love with Sagittarius men. I fell in lust the moment I looked at Sagittarius Adam Brody onscreen in "The O.C.," then I went and fell for a guy who shares his birthday who has sun AND moon in Sag, lulz !

Love it! Same thing happened to me back in the 90’s when I was a teen. I had this thing for Joey Lawrence from ‘Blossom’. He was an Aries, with Venus in Aries, and some planets in early and late Taurus… all falling in my 5th house. For a while I thought he was my ideal guy.

My first real crush was a Sag though (I've got Jupiter in the 7th house).

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posted May 22, 2012 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I have Sun and Mercury conjunct Venus in my 11th house. It's true! When someone is blunt without malicious intent...like an Aries... (Aries rules my 11th house) I tend to soften and relax and feel at ease around them, willing to do whatever. Interesting!! So excited to read the rest of the article lol.

Yeah, I’m like the reverse of this kind of. With my Aries 5th house courage, vitality, and friendly blunt honesty, really attract me…. In a head turning kind of way. But with my Libra 11th house…when someone really takes the time to be considerate and courteous towards me it really helps me to feel relaxed, as if that person has proven that they care enough to make an effort… it melts my heart and makes me feel loved. Ya know.

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posted May 22, 2012 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by virgolotus:
Empty 5th house Pisces, Neptune in 3rd house.

I am really attracted and intrigued with Pisces and most of my relationships or interests have been Pisces influenced. The way I express myself is by writing mostly. I always write poems and act in a dreamy kind of way towards my love interests.

11th house Virgo with Sun and Jupiter. Ruler Mercury in the 10th house.

I feel loved when I feel protected. Also when they show interest of wanting to help me grow as a person.


Nice post, thanks for the clear cut examples of both the 5th and the 11th house.

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posted May 22, 2012 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
no planets in those houses. h11 virgo, h5 pisces. ruler of the 11th (mercury) is conjunct dc. ruler of the 5th (neptune) trines mercury. they both aspect pluto. mercury opposes it. neptune has the generational sextile.

iv dated both signs and prefer the virgo slightly but it's true i really go gah gah over pisces placements lol! i think my preference is just out of selfishness tho haha! i prefer to be loved.


Nicely put. Don't blame you, who wouldn't want to be loved.

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posted May 22, 2012 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by la_mer:
interesting thread!

11th house cusp in cancer, moon in 10th, plus venus in 11th, so receiving love would have to be a public (10th) romantic dinner (cancer) with my love and some friends (11th/venus)?

5th house cusp is in capricorn with saturn in 4th house near the IC and mars in the 5th. therefore I would work hard (capricorn) to play (5th) or fight passionately (mars) with my love interest?

gaaaah.. now I just need find some balance in this
venus/mars opposition makes one feel a little stupid in love.


Again, love the examples given with the little self interpretation.

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posted May 22, 2012 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yvetterocks101     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always was interested knowing how the 5th and 11th house work.
I have Saggitarius in my 5th house ruler Jupiter in Libra not only that but Uranus, Neptune, Mercury even though it overlaps the 6thouse so its influence of 5/6. I have my northnode in saggitarius in my 5th house Jupiter Sq uranus and Neptune Cap and trine my Saturn in Aquarius.
I love to communicate and exchange ideas and basically talk about anything under the sun. A thing about me is when i talk even when im in groups i talk like if im just talking to you personally like one on one. Thats one thing about me when i communicate with a guy he need to be ready cause i love to talk about anything art astrology music, life etc. I like to feel stimilated in the brain lol i feel with that i put my brain to work and i had a soul and soul contact with an individual if that makes any sense.

In have Gemini in my 11 house Ruler is Mercury in Capicorn which is Conjunct to Uranus and Neptune. Mars in Cancer in my 11th house. I personally cant see how it plays out because mercury aspect alot in my chart it sextile pluto and square jupiter and opp my mars. One thing for sure when im surrounded by a group im not the most talkactive which i personally found that to be a irony lol. I can talk well in one to one bases but when it comes towards group i can be timid and cautious into i find someone interesting to talk and there is were i believe i brake down my barrier.

Hey lotis i love your description of the 5th and 11th house . I wanted to know in your opinion what you think of mine


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