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AutumnNight
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posted April 21, 2016 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope this ends up posting in the right thread. I been gone for a while because of personal life stuff.

So I am exploring different astrology systems to really see which one I really end up really like.

I saw 3 planet dasha.

The dasha I saw started with Venus and a lot of them either had a sun or moon in the middle. (I know they can start with different planets and be a combination of different planets)

so example:
Venus-Sun-(third planet)
or
Venus-Moon-(third planet)

I did some research and found 3 planet dasha are called, "Sookshma Dasha" in addition these dasha only look like 7 hours to 33 days in the future.

I was wondering can anyone explain these dashas to me and also how the three planet combinations are translated. Do you have any links that give good explainations?

so say a dasha was like
Venus-Sun-Saturn
or (an interesting one I saw was)
Venus-Moon-Moon

Appreciate any wisdom you have to share with me.

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anekksadh
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posted April 21, 2016 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anekksadh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the meaning of sookshma means minute/subtle

the 3 planetary sequence of dasha which u see is just a more refined way of going deeper into analysis,

by default we first see the mahadasha planet
for example venus

but the entire mahadasha of venus is for 20 years, to get a more accurate time period for a particular event we have to narrow down the time span so we go a step further and see the antar dasha, antar means inner or heart, so its like going inside the dasha to get a narrower time frame, but even antar dasha is a large time period, so we go a step further to pratyantar dasha which is an even narrower time frame

but as u go deeper it can get a bit more complex to delineate the chart and interpret the meaning of the 3 planets as per the chart and their results

the seers were able to predict upto every human breathe which is a time frame of just 5-7 seconds because of the wisdom and supreme intelligence they possessed,

but normally astrologers use the 2-3 sequence dashas for interpreting events,

this method of going deeper into analysis and narrowing the time frame is applicable to all dasha systems used in vedic astrology

the most common dasha used and known by amateur astrologers is vimshottari dasha, which is a planetary dasha

but there are also sign based dasha such as narayan dasha, this dasha also follows this narrowing down method

one has to keep in mind that vedic astrology is a full of planetary combinations, its not degreecal as western astrology

so there could be 4 planets creating a particular combination ( yoga) to produce a particular result, or there could be 3 or even 5-6 or just 2, there are thousands of yogas in vedic astrology scattered amongst hundreds of books, the more yogas u remember and are able to spot and interpret in a chart, the more confident you will feel in studying and interpreting charts through vedic astrology, initially remembering and spotting these yogas is not an easy task and can be quite draining but once u learn and remember them it can help u make some quick snapshot predictions

so this 3 way dasha sequence can help in timing the fructification of those yogas present in a birth chart

the interpreting of the dashas have to be seen vis a vis the birth chart, u might find extremely generic interpretations of dashas which really wont tell u much about your particular situation

unlike the common western habit of looking for cut and dried interpretations of a particular combination in vedic astrology we must see the entire chart,

although venus is a benefic planet, in a particular chart it can be a maraka ( killer planet as it might rule 2nd or 7th house which are marakas or killer houses in vedic astrology )
so such a venus could affect the health and longevity of a person if other factors also support it

if u read one of the books which interpret the dashas and antar dashas u might get a very generic interpretation which might be miles away from what u r experiencing in your life at that particular chart

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posted April 21, 2016 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow thank you for such an indepth response. I very much appreciate it.

I'm slowly learning astrology.

Right now I'm learning horary but in western astrology form. I love how vedic works, but it is a very complex/detailed system.

So if the Dasha starts with a venus like it does in the dasha I provided as an example.

The house venus is in for someone's birthchart is the house that will be affected by that dasha? or would we also look for where venus was transiting as well during the time the reading is taking place?

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posted April 22, 2016 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anekksadh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AutumnNight:
Wow thank you for such an indepth response. I very much appreciate it.

I'm slowly learning astrology.

Right now I'm learning horary but in western astrology form. I love how vedic works, but it is a very complex/detailed system.

So if the Dasha starts with a venus like it does in the dasha I provided as an example.

The house venus is in for someone's birthchart is the house that will be affected by that dasha? or would we also look for where venus was transiting as well during the time the reading is taking place?


yes u will see the house placement of venus, its strength,
its conjunctions, the aspects it receives from other planets and aspect it gives to the opposite house

the houses ruled by venus will get triggered during that period, also the houses ruled by the planets conjunct venus in the same house will also be affected

transits will also help in delineating at a deeper level along with all these factors


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posted April 22, 2016 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anekksadh:
yes u will see the house placement of venus, its strength,
its conjunctions, the aspects it receives from other planets and aspect it gives to the opposite house

the houses ruled by venus will get triggered during that period, also the houses ruled by the planets conjunct venus in the same house will also be affected

transits will also help in delineating at a deeper level along with all these factors


Thank you.

Do the houses have slightly different meanings than in western astrology?

To make sure I fully understood, say venus was in 12th house. Venus is ruled by taurus & libra...that would mean that the 12th house would be activated and so then the 7th house (libra) and 2nd house (taurus) would be activated as well?

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posted April 23, 2016 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anekksadh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i assume u mean a chart with aries ascendant,

so yes the 2nd 7th and 12th house matters will get activated as venus rules 2/7 and placed in 12th house

the houses do have some slightly different meanings compared to western, but most of the basic interpretations are the same

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posted April 23, 2016 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anekksadh:
i assume u mean a chart with aries ascendant,

so yes the 2nd 7th and 12th house matters will get activated as venus rules 2/7 and placed in 12th house

the houses do have some slightly different meanings compared to western, but most of the basic interpretations are the same


Thank you.

May I ask which chart layout you use? Is it east, north, south Indian chart layout?

Also does the dasha..in this case venus being the example also activate houses in the other divisional charts?


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posted April 23, 2016 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anekksadh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi

initially i used the south indian chart because i found it easier to read, coz the signs are fixed, just the houses change

then later on reluctantly got used to the north indian chart as it was being used in the astro class and books i read and is slightly more popular overall, in this chart the houses are fixed, but the signs change and the sign numbers are mentioned in the boxes which can get a bit confusing initially and people mix it up as assume it to be the house number

but now i am used to the north indian chart and when in my head i imagine both charts when thinking about some positions

i wud suggest, get used to both the north indian and the south indian charts, coz u might come across different books/resources which use either of the 2 charts,

studying divisional charts is intricate and not easy, yes we can see the influence of the mahadasha planet in the divisional chart, specially when that planet rules the ascendant of a particular divisional chart, that divisional chart gets activated

check my other thread " vedic astrology important concepts " in which i mentioned about rashi dasha(sign based dashas) such as narayana dasha

the planetary dasha which u are referring to is the most common - the vimshottari dasha

there are hundreds of dasha systems for different purposes,

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posted April 23, 2016 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anekksadh:
hi

initially i used the south indian chart because i found it easier to read, coz the signs are fixed, just the houses change

then later on reluctantly got used to the north indian chart as it was being used in the astro class and books i read and is slightly more popular overall, in this chart the houses are fixed, but the signs change and the sign numbers are mentioned in the boxes which can get a bit confusing initially and people mix it up as assume it to be the house number

but now i am used to the north indian chart and when in my head i imagine both charts when thinking about some positions

i wud suggest, get used to both the north indian and the south indian charts, coz u might come across different books/resources which use either of the 2 charts,

studying divisional charts is intricate and not easy, yes we can see the influence of the mahadasha planet in the divisional chart, specially when that planet rules the ascendant of a particular divisional chart, that divisional chart gets activated

check my other thread " vedic astrology important concepts " in which i mentioned about rashi dasha(sign based dashas) such as narayana dasha

the planetary dasha which u are referring to is the most common - the vimshottari dasha

there are hundreds of dasha systems for different purposes,


I've read the first part/post of the thread. Very helpful....have to read the next parts.

Yea, I am noticing the North Indian chart is more popular. But, I be looking at the South Indian. I'll remember to get familiar with both.

Thank you for answering my questions. What books would you recommend to learn vedic?

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posted April 24, 2016 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anekksadh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for beginners to start off with, i suggest

LIGHT ON LIFE - WRITTEN BY HART DO FOUW AND ROBERT SVOBODA

next i would suggest ( but u can start off with this also as it explains the houses and working around the chart in depths )

CRUX OF VEDIC ASTROLOGY - WRITTEN BY SANJAY RATH
https://www.scribd.com/doc/23495960/Crux-of-Vedic-Astrology
u can download the book via this link

more advanced

NARAYANA DASHA - WRITTEN BY SANJAY RATH
BRHAT NAKSHATRA - WRITTEN BY SANJAY RATH

sanjay rath has many courses on vedic astrology, u can visit his website and check the parashara jyotish course being conducted by his students in europe and america

his website is www.http://srath.com/
check PJC 2016 admission in the options on the right side

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posted April 24, 2016 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anekksadh:
for beginners to start off with, i suggest

LIGHT ON LIFE - WRITTEN BY HART DO FOUW AND ROBERT SVOBODA

next i would suggest ( but u can start off with this also as it explains the houses and working around the chart in depths )

CRUX OF VEDIC ASTROLOGY - WRITTEN BY SANJAY RATH
https://www.scribd.com/doc/23495960/Crux-of-Vedic-Astrology
u can download the book via this link

more advanced

NARAYANA DASHA - WRITTEN BY SANJAY RATH
BRHAT NAKSHATRA - WRITTEN BY SANJAY RATH

sanjay rath has many courses on vedic astrology, u can visit his website and check the parashara jyotish course being conducted by his students in europe and america

his website is www.http://srath.com/
check PJC 2016 admission in the options on the right side


Thank you! I have bookmark that class. I would love to take it one day. I will have to save up for it.

are all of Sanjay Rath's books on that site. I was hoping to download them and then go to copy center to make it into a book.

The first book you mention. I had saved that on my list to buy. But, I wasn't sure how good it was. So I am happy you mentioned it

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posted April 24, 2016 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anekksadh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sanjay rath's books can be purchased from sagittarius publication, located in new delhi, india, they can post it internat
ionally http://sagittariuspublications.com/

i was lucky to find the second book on scribd,

the first book- light on life, is the best book ever written for a westerner to be introduced to vedic astrology, many resources on the internet give references to excerpts from this book, i think it is easily available on amazon and other websites in the west

it just does not teach u the cut and dried rules, it conditions your mind to understand vedic philosophy, because vedic astrology , apart from being mathematical and astronomical, also requires a holistic esoteric approach to get a tight grasp of it

in western astrology we just need 2 out of the 3 mentioned above, we just need maths and astronomy, but vedic adds this extra dimension which i feel makes it much more accurate and precise as compared to vedic,

although it can be extremely complicated initially to put everything together and remember so many different concepts, but one has to be extremely patient to learn it and its many concepts/theories.

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posted April 25, 2016 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anekksadh:
sanjay rath's books can be purchased from sagittarius publication, located in new delhi, india, they can post it internat
ionally http://sagittariuspublications.com/

i was lucky to find the second book on scribd,

the first book- light on life, is the best book ever written for a westerner to be introduced to vedic astrology, many resources on the internet give references to excerpts from this book, i think it is easily available on amazon and other websites in the west

it just does not teach u the cut and dried rules, it conditions your mind to understand vedic philosophy, because vedic astrology , apart from being mathematical and astronomical, also requires a holistic esoteric approach to get a tight grasp of it

in western astrology we just need 2 out of the 3 mentioned above, we just need maths and astronomy, but vedic adds this extra dimension which i feel makes it much more accurate and precise as compared to vedic,

although it can be extremely complicated initially to put everything together and remember so many different concepts, but one has to be extremely patient to learn it and its many concepts/theories.


Thank you for the link.

I will be purchasing the first book hopefully in the next 2 weeks.

I'm more a prediction/forecast base person. I feel the more complex a system is..more involved..layered....detail probably ends up being more accurate which can help the person understand why they might have gone through certain periods and also how to approach it to make the situation not has harsh/shocking. I'm very drawn to vedic. It probably will take me time and it will be a day to day thing.

Hope to get better.

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posted June 22, 2016 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you get the book?

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posted July 16, 2016 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you choose which system to use? They each seem so different.

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posted July 16, 2016 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very insightful post. very well explained anekksadh.

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posted July 17, 2016 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by thequeen:
very insightful post. very well explained anekksadh.

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posted September 16, 2016 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for farfaraway     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey...so the vimshottari dasha system is perhaps the most powerful vedic technique to predict one's future - it is based on the Nakshtra of the Moon at the time of birth, and the movement of Moon from that Nakshatra, as we old, defines our life events. It is similar to the progression technique used by western astrologers that progresses one degree in the birth chart to define a year. Here's an article you may find interesting: http://www.farfaraway.co/blog/vimshottari-dasha-based-astrology-predictions

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