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Topic: Indicators for Denial of Marriage
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Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 07, 2016 07:12 AM
What in the natal chart or Navamsha would indicate that the native will never be in a relationship or marry?I feel like that might be me. I'm 22 now, never had a real relationship, never even kissed a guy. I've been in love a few times, but things have always ended in heartbreak, bitterness and resentment. Now I've sworn off ever falling for another man again because of all the heart ache and trouble it's brought me. I've even started wearing a fake wedding ring to ward off male attention, although it doesn't really seem to be working. So does anyone know any chart significators that would indicate a completely single life, or a life of purity? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 102395 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2016 11:20 AM
I don't ever want to get married.IP: Logged |
kinslayer Newflake Posts: 12 From: Registered: Oct 2016
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posted November 09, 2016 02:05 AM
Can you post your birthchart or Your birth details ( i.e birthdate , time and place)
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NikiVenus6 Knowflake Posts: 277 From: Mumbai Registered: May 2015
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posted November 09, 2016 03:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Neptunian Venus: What in the natal chart or Navamsha would indicate that the native will never be in a relationship or marry?I feel like that might be me. I'm 22 now, never had a real relationship, never even kissed a guy. I've been in love a few times, but things have always ended in heartbreak, bitterness and resentment. Now I've sworn off ever falling for another man again because of all the heart ache and trouble it's brought me. I've even started wearing a fake wedding ring to ward off male attention, although it doesn't really seem to be working. So does anyone know any chart significators that would indicate a completely single life, or a life of purity?
Look out for a pisces rising in the Navamsa and/or Saturn in 7th house.
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Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 11, 2016 08:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by kinslayer: Can you post your birthchart or Your birth details ( i.e birthdate , time and place)
Here's my main birth chart, Navamsha and Moon chart. [edited] IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 11, 2016 08:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by NikiVenus6: Look out for a pisces rising in the Navamsa and/or Saturn in 7th house.
I don't have any of that in D1 or D9, however, in my D60 I have Saturn in 7th. I read Saturn gains dikbala in the 7th though, since it's sitting in the house of its exaltation sign.. IP: Logged |
missblyss Knowflake Posts: 2569 From: Registered: May 2016
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posted November 14, 2016 02:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Neptunian Venus: I don't have any of that in D1 or D9, however, in my D60 I have Saturn in 7th. I read Saturn gains dikbala in the 7th though, since it's sitting in the house of its exaltation sign..
yeah and your saturn is in it's own house, so I wouldn't worry. Cancer ascendants usually don't find a real partner till their early 30s. There is a certain emotional maturation process required. I know you can find a partner if you would like one, just take things slowly. Figure out who you are so that you can understand what you really want. I have saturn and rahu in the 7th in Capricorn and have already been married. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 102395 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2016 12:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by missblyss: yeah and your saturn is in it's own house, so I wouldn't worry. Cancer ascendants usually don't find a real partner till their early 30s. There is a certain emotional maturation process required. I know you can find a partner if you would like one, just take things slowly. Figure out who you are so that you can understand what you really want. I have saturn and rahu in the 7th in Capricorn and have already been married.
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colorful butterfly Knowflake Posts: 2138 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted November 15, 2016 08:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: I don't ever want to get married.
lol, I've been married before and it's taken me a long time to reconsider it and still not sure. IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 17, 2016 06:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by missblyss: yeah and your saturn is in it's own house, so I wouldn't worry. Cancer ascendants usually don't find a real partner till their early 30s. There is a certain emotional maturation process required. I know you can find a partner if you would like one, just take things slowly. Figure out who you are so that you can understand what you really want. I have saturn and rahu in the 7th in Capricorn and have already been married.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 102395 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2016 11:44 AM
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Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 19, 2016 05:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Once bitten, twice shy.
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start6030 Knowflake Posts: 582 From: neverland:) Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 31, 2017 02:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by colorful butterfly: lol, I've been married before and it's taken me a long time to reconsider it and still not sure.
lolz... n here i am .. with venus in my 7th house - bitterly in opposition with Uranus in first (and they call it a marriage breaker) . No wonder I had a divorce after a mere 3 months on marriage . Ah ! but how I wanted to get married and fall in love all these last 6 years - n ended up in heartbreaks . I loved my Dsc at Gemini though (lolz... it calls for two marriages they say) .... and a venus in seventh (i wish uranus didn't afflict it ) - so didnt leave hope. But two heartbreaks later , and people behaving mysteriously , I am kind of finding it sooo hard to like someone. I would have said a hello to nearly 20 who proposed....or so many many many proposals my mum and friends tried to find me - But just a simple hi or a brief conversation and something in me says - It doesnt click . I was never dat moody/ picky/ closed . And lately , I have started saying , I donot want to marry . I wonder though if I am actually gonna marry ever? coz i so badly wanted kids and a family with their father being present in their lives...and somewhere deep down , i crave a partner - but someone CONSISTENT ... and HONEST. A lil back n forth - and i lose interest and say goodbye - except for someone who i know is reallllly not right for me . lolz..when and where that second marriage of mine is ! (Giggles) IP: Logged |
AutumnNight Knowflake Posts: 272 From: United states Registered: Mar 2016
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posted January 31, 2017 03:23 PM
Venus aspecting Uranus....doesn't deny marriage/committed relationship. It causes you to have non-traditional relationships. This non-traditional relationship is based on your country and social background. For someone a non-traditional marriage is not legally getting marriage, but being committed. It can also indicate homosexual marriage which is still taboo enough. But, if you aren't homosexual/bisexual this won't be your non-traditional. It could be a polyamorous relationship or just an open relationship (committed but have sex with other people outside of a relationship) It could be that you will get divorced and then remarried to the person you divorced at some later time. It could be that your future husband will have 4 children from a previous relationship and you will have children from a previous then you two will come together and have like a brady bunch family. Marrying someone outside of your religion or ethnicity (but other stuff in the chart would indicate if that is true) It can be anything... but it would be non traditional for your cultural and country. Having saturn in your 7th house or aspecting it doesn't exactly mean you won't have a committed relationship. It can just mean after your saturn return or an older person. It can even mean something very traditional because Saturn rules traditions. There has to be other things in the chart showing the client chooses the wrong partners or is unable to maintain a relationship. For the original poster: You are 22. I don't think 22 and never having a serious relationship is bad. There are people that don't enter into a serious relationship until older. There are people that don't have some form of intimacy with someone until older. This is just a novice's two cent. IP: Logged |
AutumnNight Knowflake Posts: 272 From: United states Registered: Mar 2016
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posted January 31, 2017 03:35 PM
Venus aspecting Uranus....doesn't deny marriage/committed relationship. It causes you to have non-traditional relationships. This non-traditional relationship is based on your country and social background. For someone a non-traditional marriage is not legally getting marriage, but being committed. It can also indicate homosexual marriage which is still taboo enough. But, if you aren't homosexual/bisexual this won't be your non-traditional. It could be a polyamorous relationship or just an open relationship (committed but have sex with other people outside of a relationship) It could be that you will get divorced and then remarried to the person you divorced at some later time. It could be that your future husband will have 4 children from a previous relationship and you will have children from a previous then you two will come together and have like a brady bunch family. Marrying someone outside of your religion or ethnicity (but other stuff in the chart would indicate if that is true) It can be anything... but it would be non traditional for your cultural and country. Having saturn in your 7th house or aspecting it doesn't exactly mean you won't have a committed relationship. It can just mean after your saturn return or an older person. It can even mean something very traditional because Saturn rules traditions. There has to be other things in the chart showing the client chooses the wrong partners or is unable to maintain a relationship. For the original poster: You are 22. I don't think 22 and never having a serious relationship is bad. There are people that don't enter into a serious relationship until older. There are people that don't have some form of intimacy with someone until older. This is just a novice's two cent. IP: Logged |
ihaveaquestion Knowflake Posts: 176 From: Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 01, 2017 05:45 AM
God, your story is exactly my story. Got divorced in 2014 and since then been through 2-3 heartbreaks. One big one actually. I finally thought I met someone I connected with in a deep sense but apparently not. I don't know anything about astrology to tell if your and my stars are the same. Although my chart can be seen here - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum38/HTML/000148.html I can relate to your struggle... wish you lots of love and happiness! quote: Originally posted by start6030: lolz... n here i am .. with venus in my 7th house - bitterly in opposition with Uranus in first (and they call it a marriage breaker) . No wonder I had a divorce after a mere 3 months on marriage . Ah ! but how I wanted to get married and fall in love all these last 6 years - n ended up in heartbreaks . I loved my Dsc at Gemini though (lolz... it calls for two marriages they say) .... and a venus in seventh (i wish uranus didn't afflict it ) - so didnt leave hope. But two heartbreaks later , and people behaving mysteriously , I am kind of finding it sooo hard to like someone. I would have said a hello to nearly 20 who proposed....or so many many many proposals my mum and friends tried to find me - But just a simple hi or a brief conversation and something in me says - It doesnt click . I was never dat moody/ picky/ closed . And lately , I have started saying , I donot want to marry . I wonder though if I am actually gonna marry ever? coz i so badly wanted kids and a family with their father being present in their lives...and somewhere deep down , i crave a partner - but someone CONSISTENT ... and HONEST. A lil back n forth - and i lose interest and say goodbye - except for someone who i know is reallllly not right for me . lolz..when and where that second marriage of mine is ! (Giggles)
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Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1971 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted February 01, 2017 10:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: I don't ever want to get married.
Sometimes I wish I was like that too
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start6030 Knowflake Posts: 582 From: neverland:) Registered: Dec 2011
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posted February 03, 2017 03:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by ihaveaquestion:
God, your story is exactly my story. Got divorced in 2014 and since then been through 2-3 heartbreaks. One big one actually. I finally thought I met someone I connected with in a deep sense but apparently not. I don't know anything about astrology to tell if your and my stars are the same. Although my chart can be seen here - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum38/HTML/000148.html I can relate to your struggle... wish you lots of love and happiness! [QUOTE]Originally posted by start6030: [b] lolz... n here i am .. with venus in my 7th house - bitterly in opposition with Uranus in first (and they call it a marriage breaker) . No wonder I had a divorce after a mere 3 months on marriage . Ah ! but how I wanted to get married and fall in love all these last 6 years - n ended up in heartbreaks . I loved my Dsc at Gemini though (lolz... it calls for two marriages they say) .... and a venus in seventh (i wish uranus didn't afflict it ) - so didnt leave hope. But two heartbreaks later , and people behaving mysteriously , I am kind of finding it sooo hard to like someone. I would have said a hello to nearly 20 who proposed....or so many many many proposals my mum and friends tried to find me - But just a simple hi or a brief conversation and something in me says - It doesnt click . I was never dat moody/ picky/ closed . And lately , I have started saying , I donot want to marry . I wonder though if I am actually gonna marry ever? coz i so badly wanted kids and a family with their father being present in their lives...and somewhere deep down , i crave a partner - but someone CONSISTENT ... and HONEST. A lil back n forth - and i lose interest and say goodbye - except for someone who i know is reallllly not right for me . lolz..when and where that second marriage of mine is ! (Giggles)
[/B][/QUOTE]Awww...thx ! Wish u the same !! Forgot the vedic chart placement but m a leo born with asc sagi nd 0 degrees sun ... in western astro. Yeah...heartbreaks hurt....esp when we r tryng hard to gain trust in rships in situations like after divorce... I dnt knw why, bt ended up writing a 'gth' nd stay away msg to one of those today...lolz..after being cool for more than a year. I wish we all gain our trust back ! :** IP: Logged |
start6030 Knowflake Posts: 582 From: neverland:) Registered: Dec 2011
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posted February 03, 2017 03:34 PM
@ people outside of a relationship) It could be that you will get divorced and then remarried to the person you divorced at some later time All other things i could easily rule out...so only this one was left. And omg !!! Marrying him again ??!! ( haha... no wonder i alws hav a feelng he s gonna apologise to me sm day fr wt all crap he did ).... bt wont even want the universe to unite us ever again. I wish venus opp uranus is - Divorce FOREVER only 😄
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 102395 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 14, 2017 05:05 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 102395 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2017 12:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by start6030: @ people outside of a relationship) It could be that you will get divorced and then remarried to the person you divorced at some later time All other things i could easily rule out...so only this one was left. And omg !!! Marrying him again ??!! ( haha... no wonder i alws hav a feelng he s gonna apologise to me sm day fr wt all crap he did ).... bt wont even want the universe to unite us ever again. I wish venus opp uranus is - Divorce FOREVER only 😄
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 102395 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5430 From: saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 07, 2018 03:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Neptunian Venus: What in the natal chart or Navamsha would indicate that the native will never be in a relationship or marry?I feel like that might be me. I'm 22 now, never had a real relationship, never even kissed a guy. I've been in love a few times, but things have always ended in heartbreak, bitterness and resentment. Now I've sworn off ever falling for another man again because of all the heart ache and trouble it's brought me. I've even started wearing a fake wedding ring to ward off male attention, although it doesn't really seem to be working. So does anyone know any chart significators that would indicate a completely single life, or a life of purity?
You are still very very young to think that your chart could indicate denial of marriage. Your post is dated awhile I'm hoping you whole perspective has changed since. That said,this is a quite common topic- when will I get married? or why is it that everyone is getting married but I'm not. I won't talk about indicators for DENIAL of marriage because I don't believe that it's my place to say to a person that this and this aspects will deny marriage.
MOST of the vedic astrologers out there will look at a chart and say depressing things about your future prospects in life based on a Manglik Mars,or Saturn placements. That's why people lose faith and trust in Vedic Astrology because of the fatalistic approach of some Vedic Astrologers which I personally feel is wrong. I don't want to be the cause of pain,anguish and cause disappointment to another human being, someone I know nothing about, when I am totally ignorant of how he/she is living his/her life and ignorant of what other 'safeguards' there might be in his/her chart. Vedic is DEEP, it goes to a depth that we can't ever imagine. The more you learn the more there is to learn. That said there are indicators of a delayed marriage or marriage that is delayed unless lessons are learnt. The right questions you should ask yourself (if you believe in Vedic) is WHY is it that what I want most is not happening to me? that is not only for marriage but for everything that your ego desires. why is it that it's happening to everybody but not me? The moment you ask yourself that question and think that not everything is a given - that not everything is owed to you your whole perspective will change. When you look at your vedic chart, you will see things that you have never noticed before.
Saturn in the 7th house, for instance gets directional strength, no matter which house it is placed it will get directional strength, just by being in the 7th house but the fact that saturn is in the 7th house alone doesn't necessarily delay marriage. There are 7th house saturn people who got married before they turn 20 years old. But Saturn in the 7th house Libra for example even though it is exalted it could delay marriage to a certain age, since it is placed in the house of relationships, until and unless lessons are learned. It is not like whenever saturn is aspecting the 7th house or is in the 7th house it will automatically delay marriage. i don't believe that.saturn is an old master, he is all about lessons. If the 7th house lord is hemmed between malefics. for instance it could be that the person is unable to act ON TIME when a marriage proposal comes their way, or if they do act on time, something untoward happens and the marriage is off. Or marriage could be delayed because relationships are too difficult to maintain. If Venus natural karak of marriage is in the 7th house, it could delay marriage. If 7th house lord is located in the 6,8,12 houses, (even though these houses are their exaltation signs, marriage could be delayed. If lord of the 6,8,12 houses are located in the 7th house from lagna, or from moon, or from venus/jupiter it could delay marriage. If Venus, for guys, and Jupiter for gals is located in the 6,8,12 houses it could delay marriage. So afflicted Venus or Jupiter. Jupiter in the 7th house, without any conjunctions could encourage 2 marriages. Jupiter in planetary war with saturn could delay marriage 7th house lords loses in planetary war with another planet could delay marriage. Conjunctions of the 7th house lord with the lords of the dustana houses could delay marriage. If the lagna lord is combust, marriage could be delayed due to the person unrealistic expectations. Sun in the 7th house could delay marriage. Debilitated 7th house lords EVEN though they undergo neech banga yoga could delay marriage. Mutual exchange of 7th house lords with lords of the upachaya houses could delay marriage. Well to name a few indicators. Again these could delay marriage to a specific age, depending on the Mahadasha you are running through, there are times when there are no afflictions in the horoscope that warrants a delay in marriage but delay happens because the relevant dasha is not running in the 'appropriate time'. So delays occur even though the person doesn't feel it's a delay, since marriageable age differs in different culture.
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