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Topic: Motivation and lack thereof
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BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4723 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 29, 2008 10:07 PM
The past 4 years I worked my butt off to get into graduate school. I slaved, toiled, did the whole ball of wax...experience in the field, recc letters, test scores etc.. I thought I wanted this more than anything else.Now that I'm here I don't feel motivated or stimulated by the material. All my classmates are gung ho, study constantly, love it and love everything. I wonder if my issue is not with the material but something emotional or otherwise not related. At any rate I don't feel motivated to go all out and really learn the material..I'm trying but it's kind of a half ass effort..it's just so much work, i'm not used to this kind of pressure. Has anyone ever wanted something so badly then kind of felt dissapointed or not interested when they get it, esp pertaining to career? Hoping I"ll find my motivation... thanks for reading I Have a jupiter moon conjunction on my midheaven....so i know career will be good for me in life..maybe it's lack of romance that's the problem...
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Geocosmic Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1090 From: New York, NY Registered: Sep 2007
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posted September 03, 2008 05:49 PM
Hey BlueRoamer,Yes, I've had this experience twice. Once with music school and once with studying with one of the greatest astrologers in the world, so I just might delete this post after I write it. My advice to you is to stick it out. Get that degree or certificate, even if you have to kiss ass. I say that because I ended up learning a tremendous amount but somehow the fates stopped me just short of getting the degree and certificate. I'm figuring out the lessons of that slowly, but I would have much preferred to have the degree and certificate. I did the same kind of incredible hard work that you did to get to "The Promise Land" or what I liked to call "The Land of the Pharoahs" and when I got there, it wasn't what I thought it would be at all. And each time it really came down to stroking some professors ego. I was flabergasted at just how blatant it was. I STILL AM!! But here I sit at a desk job that I hate trying to build a music career with no strong contacts and an astrological career as well. It would be a billion times easier with the degree or the certificate. Here's an interesting bit of information. Saturn rules my 9th House of Higher Education. No matter how hard I have worked in my life to get into college, to get the money for college (including the Astrology Certificate from a Harvard studied psychologist and anthropologist), something always occurred where I would get dismissed or kicked out. With music school I was totally devestated, I wanted to end it all, it had become my adult life wound. With the Astrology study, which happened 15 years after the college experience, I was surprised that I was able to laugh as I picked myself up. With the astrology, I realized that I had studied this man's various books for 6 years with a fine tooth comb before contacting him to study. When I began to receive the lessons, I wasn't impressed, I was disappointed on some levels that I didn't even want to admit. It took about a year after he dismissed me to realize that I already knew everything he was teaching me and that I was bored with the study. It doesn't mean he wasn't a good teacher, it just meant that I didn't come to this earth to be "a student". It's just not happening for me. I already had what I needed by the time I got to music school, but my upbringing told me that I NEEDED a college education. With the astrology, I wanted to impress everyone with being certified by the man, who in astrological circles, who is considered to be "The Harvard University of Astrology". Well, he already gave it to me through his books, I just don't have the paper in hand to show for it. But it's not an easy lesson for me to learn. My advice is that if you can stomach putting in the time, DO IT!!! Maybe your lesson is supposed to be the same as mine, learning that you already have it in you or something, but if that's not supposed to be your lesson - THEN GET YOUR ASS TO WORK, BOY!!! I know, I know, I can hear you now saying, "Who you callin' boy???" To that I say, YOU!! Don't make me buss' out my whip, BlueRoamer, although you might like that, but buckle down, do the work, be the robot, concentrate, focus, all of it. Sometimes tell yourself that you're only going to set up your workplace, or that you're only going to do 5 minutes. Then 5 more minutes, you'll be surprised at how 10 to 15 minutes becomes and addictive three hours that you don't want to tear yourself away from. I'm so glad you asked this question, it gave me a chance to write out loud about my experiences. Get that degree, Mr. Geocosmic Valentine P.S. I'm taking this down in a day or two so copy and paste it if you want to keep it. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4723 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted September 03, 2008 11:24 PM
Thanks Geo!Sorry things didn't work out for you the way you wish wiht your career......but there's still time, right? You can make it happen. Thanks for the pep talk....I'm trying my best......one key I've noticed is ignoring/avoiding my classmates. Their high level of stress and constantly discussing the material realy cheapens it for me. I'm a very private person and i liek to make love to the material one on one.....just how I work. thanks!! IP: Logged |
thirteen Knowflake Posts: 1186 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: May 2004
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posted September 29, 2008 01:49 PM
I think it is very typical to aim for a goal and then lose interest. Sometimes you just need to know you could do it. What valentine says is true, since you've come this far please don't give up on the final certificate. I agree it will make things easier for you down the road.IP: Logged |
bunnies Knowflake Posts: 668 From: U.K Registered: Mar 2007
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posted September 29, 2008 05:24 PM
Is there something else you really want to do BR? Even if it seems like a crazy idea? Because that is what might be getting in the way. Can you see yourself doing what you are doing now for the next 40 odd years? I love what I do. Even when it's bad it's good if you understand me! But it took me a long time to find it and everyone initially thought I was nuts!
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wheelsofcheese Knowflake Posts: 1612 From: UK Registered: Jan 2008
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posted September 30, 2008 05:16 AM
quote: Now that I'm here I don't feel motivated or stimulated by the material. All my classmates are gung ho, study constantly, love it and love everything.I wonder if my issue is not with the material but something emotional or otherwise not related
Hey BR. I wondered where you'd been! Busy huh?! This exactly and I mean exactly replicates my experience of graduate school. I worked two years stacking bread for a supermarket and living with my mother before I could afford to go. It was a mental and financial struggle before I even got there. I think like I was, you are simply tired, but because you have to go on now you probably don't realise just how much. My classmates were all so much better informed and motivated than me. To be honest by the time I got there I couldn't be bothered. Well, not exactly, I felt like I didn;t have any more to give and I was already thinking about when the course ended and what the hell I would do then, when my plans had run out and I had no more plans up my sleeve. But there was still merit on carrying on. I don't look at that certificate and think about the things I learned (although they were good). I think it's an incredible personal achievement because of the stamina it took just to stay there and get it (Mars in the 9th in Taurus helped a bit!). Practically speaking, maybe the learning style doesn't suit anymore? There was such a big difference in me when I went off to college at 18, and when I started graduate school at 23. I was no longer used to sitting like a lemon, passively absorbing. What about getting together some informal discussion group over the issues in the course? Grab a beer and a pizza or whatever floats your boat and get the classmates over. Get woozy and talk. This really helped me, and I felt closer and less threatened by what I perceived as people with superior knowledge to mine. Everybody's opinion counts. I remember a lot of episodes like this, usually over strong Greek coffee and baclava. Ahh, *sigh* EDIT: I just noticed you don't work that way. Umm... out of ideas then. Could you consider it? Call in all the help you can. Go to Student Services and tell them if you are struggling. They will be a buffer between you and academia, and may be able to point you towards resources/opportunties/money or whatever support you desire. Make friends with your tutor. I would not have finished my degree without the help of mine. I was going to drop out, he took me to the pub and told me simply that I couldn't even though I was broke and I couldn't afford my rent. He made it happen and worked out a payment plan for rent that suited me and the university. They know the terrain better than you, they're paid to. I wish you all the best. Don't give up. I will b!tch slap you if necessary, like GV. It's a means to an end and you will find a great working environment after you get that piece of paper that will suit you. Believe in the reasons why you're doing this and what sparked your interest in the first place. I think it will endure.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 27065 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted October 01, 2008 11:54 AM
School sucks. It's just a means to an end. Just take it a day at a time and keep plugging on.------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2265 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Jan 2008
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posted October 01, 2008 12:07 PM
I tend to agree with Randall. Amd everyone else here has good advice and all too!So many folks I know who are in college or went...were all excited at first, but the extraneous subjects required dragged their enthusiasm down..and for many the ponderous cost. Most once through it were glad they persevered and are busy in their careers. And yes, many complained about lack of a love interest and no time to pursue such. How close are you to finishing? For every person going through what you are, you will find folks wishing they could afford college but can not, no matter how much they want to go. My husband could double or triple his income with a Bachelor degree...but no free time nor money to do so. He also looked into a new career move, but again no money nor time. I have done the same...but no money, and being disabled I cannot attend typical college, so for now we stay poor.It is said, "if there is a will there is a way"...Well not without the money and time there is not. ------------------ It is not about waiting for storms to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain! __________________________________________________________________________ IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 27065 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted October 02, 2008 06:03 PM
------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz IP: Logged |
praecipua Knowflake Posts: 820 From: france Registered: Aug 2007
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posted November 27, 2008 05:01 PM
Blueroamer, how did it go so far at uni? did the motivation increase? i hope so u need to be graduated to be taken seriously when u go to save the world. look at jesus and buddha, do u think anyone would have listened to them if they hadn't finished uni? good luck IP: Logged |
silverstone Moderator Posts: 3301 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 28, 2008 03:38 AM
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FistOfLegend Knowflake Posts: 354 From: Registered: Nov 2008
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posted January 09, 2009 06:25 PM
Motivation is everything. You might have a very fit body, but if you don't have the will to do something, nothing gets done.IP: Logged | |