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Topic: Linda'a thoughts on Masonry
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Pegesus Knowflake Posts: 302 From: Registered: Jan 2001
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posted November 19, 2002 02:02 PM
I have long been torn between the "enlightened" version of Freemasonry that Linda talked about and have enjoyed reading some of Manly P. Hall's works but I read 10 to 1 bad things about masons than good.Can anyone shed any "light" on this subject? My feeling is that were/are dedicated to be a benefit to mankind but again, there is a lot of writings out there now that suggest otherwise. They sure get blamed for the condition the world is in right now. Maybe they have been "infiltrated"??? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 25878 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 20, 2002 12:33 AM
I wonder about these things also. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
angel beauty Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 20, 2002 12:07 PM
What is masonry? IP: Logged |
Pegesus Knowflake Posts: 302 From: Registered: Jan 2001
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posted November 20, 2002 01:20 PM
They are actually called "Freemasons" and Linda talks about them alot in Star Signs.Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and I believe almost all the founding fathers were masons with the exception of John Adams. Many of our presidents have been masons. When I was growing up I thought they were like those guys in the Flintstone cartoons that went to the lodge and wore the silly hats. (Yes, I really DID think that!) Then I thought they were like any other civic organization, like the Optimists or the Elks,etc. But they are a "secret" organization and you may only join by invitation and I believe you have to have an uncle, brother, father, "vouche" for you. One of the biggest things I hold against them is they do not accept women except in their "sister" organization "The Eastern Star". Somehow I doubt they get to know all the "secret" stuff. So how enlightened can this good ole boy club really be if they don't allow goddesses to help them spread light??? IP: Logged |
angel beauty Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 20, 2002 06:54 PM
So, it's an organization, right? What is their platform, or purpose? I mean,is it possibile that these men just get together to drink budweiser and watch football, or do they actually do things (like host events for charities, etc.)? I'm just trying to get a clearer perception of "mansonry." IP: Logged |
shamrock227 Knowflake Posts: 225 From: Is a Pisces ever really anywhere? Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 20, 2002 10:21 PM
http://www.freemasonry.org/links If you click on "informational Sites" it brings you to a listing of a bunch of sites explaining freemasonry and even sites for opposing viewpoints. I didn't really check out the links, but it looks like there might be some good information there about what they are and what they aren't. IP: Logged |
Pegesus Knowflake Posts: 302 From: Registered: Jan 2001
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posted November 20, 2002 10:23 PM
I know they are very involved in charity work. Beyond I really don't know what they do. IP: Logged |
shamrock227 Knowflake Posts: 225 From: Is a Pisces ever really anywhere? Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 20, 2002 10:25 PM
This one looks like the best choice for those who want to know the basics: http://www.geocities.com/wduggan/freemasonry.html It's titled "Primer for the Uninitiated". I don't like that "men only" thing. IP: Logged |
angel beauty Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 20, 2002 11:12 PM
Thanks for the replies - I appreciate your help!Of course, the "men only" thing is ridiculous, but I wonder if the sister organization, "The Eastern Star" is women only? Out of curiosity, if it is, would you be opposed to joining simply because it excludes men? IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 281 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted September 10, 2006 01:55 PM
Bizarre..been meditating on Abraham Lincoln..Freemasons's..to the Old Man of the Mountain, in Lincoln, NH..on Profile Lake. ...his profile..natural rock formation..looks alot like Honest Abe's... . it's gone now..that was sad for NH. . . there's an Indian Head too! He's okay! what does this mean???hehe IP: Logged |
Charlotte Knowflake Posts: 1615 From: USA Registered: Apr 2004
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posted September 15, 2006 02:49 AM
Hmmmmm, would like to know more about this subject also...IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 281 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted September 15, 2006 11:13 PM
Also..Lost River is in Lincoln, NH.... and I have always wanted to go..but have not had the oppurtunity.... natural rock formations..Old Man of the Mountian..The Indian Head..hmmmm????
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Sharon49 Knowflake Posts: 58 From: Bastrop, La, USA Registered: Aug 2006
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posted September 29, 2006 07:32 AM
Hello everyone, I am Sharon. MY Grandfather was a Mason, and he got my Aunt into the Eastern star group. I never understood exactly what they stood for, except that it is very particular. He has influence into hospitals set up for what is called Shriners. MY Aunt had a child born with is't fingers grown together like a glove. The hospital did the surgery for free for her. I think the Grandfather also got a few of his sons in also. I don't think too highly of them, for they are so secretive. When he died a crazy ceremony took place and we all wondered what it was about. They marched in all dressed up and mumbuled a bunch of crap that we couldn't understand. Just the fact that they think they are Supreme over everyone else didn't jive with me. They try to say they are Religious people, but I don't feel that way. These are some of the Cold hearted people and so Perculiar in there on ways. I just think it is a Cover Up for a bunch of Unsecure People that have made up there on Rules and keep people out if they don't cow down to the main People. I know Masons are not for me!!IP: Logged |
OutlawIntellect Knowflake Posts: 8 From: London,England Registered: Jan 2007
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posted March 10, 2007 10:11 PM
i have been reading about the freemasons for while now and i can say without a doubt, there are some very evil part of this group. i'm not saying all freemasons are bad, most aren't even aware of what they are taking part in and they believe this to be an innocent brotherhood. But what we need to understand is that there are different levels of freemasonry. The higher levels of freemasonry is where the real power lies. i've written an article on this subject and if you like i can create another post for it as it is quite long. meanwhile checkout this site : http://www.freedomdomain.com/freemason.html IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 25878 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted March 21, 2007 02:30 PM
------------------ "There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
artlovesdawn Knowflake Posts: 1177 From: Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 26, 2007 11:30 PM
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yourfriendinspirit Moderator Posts: 2771 From: California, USA Registered: Oct 2006
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posted September 02, 2007 02:48 AM
LMAO! quote: So how enlightened can this good ole boy club really be if they don't allow goddesses to help them spread light???
Thanks pegesus!I dont really remember Linda mentioning the Freemasons at all? Hmm? I'll have to peek through Star Signs again... It's been several years since I've picked it up now. ------------------ Sendin' love your way, "your friend in spirit"
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lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 281 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted September 02, 2007 02:28 PM
yourfriendinspirit,She talks about it when writing about the Founding Fathers, who were freemasons..Our Declaration of Independence, the two-sided seal, that is shone on the 1 dollar bill, we are the only ones to have a two-sided seal, one with the pyramind, and one with the eagle ahaha pyramid, those word druids are so funny! LOve and Reverence to ALL. ... IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 4989 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 08, 2007 08:21 AM
The Skull & Bones Society :thumbsdown that the Bush family belong to is an offshoot of Freemasonry. Leo Lyon Zagami was supposedly one of the highest initiated aristocratic members at the top of the PYRAMID of Freemasonry, who came out to expose them, but I don't know what to make of him- perhaps he just gathered knowledge about it all from other sources? Interesting though. He has a website. ------------------ If people could only understand and feel the hurt they caused others; there would be NO need for retribution, etc. Empathy/ love is a law unto itself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uz80zTMO40 IP: Logged |
LovelyOne unregistered
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posted December 11, 2007 12:07 AM
Just like Sharon, my grandfather was a mason. And I do remember there was something odd with his funeral. He was very proud of it but didn't say much about it. He was buried in his uniform. Growing up, I was a part of a club called Rainbow Girls which was somehow related to the masons. And it was very goofy, being that we had our own little books that we were told not to let anyone read and that we couldn't speak of anything at the meetings. We had to wear full legnth dresses to the meetings as well. The Eastern Star's (the women's version of masons who also wore full legnth dresses) would attend meetings and we would attend charity events. I believe the Eastern Star's was just something created to...shut the women up lol!
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Skyhawk Knowflake Posts: 121 From: Kansas Registered: Aug 2007
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posted December 13, 2007 03:01 AM
My husband is a Mason. I went through the rebellious phase when we were first married 28 years ago. Why is it secret? Why aren't women allowed? I joined Easter Star with him for awhile. Until someone said something rude one night. He didn't want to go back and never asked me to either. But that didn't stop him from going to Masonic meetings. That's different!I'm not jealous anymore. It's a guy thing. I've learned enough about the history and esoteric meanings of the symbols to know he's not into anything evil. It's fading out. It will never survive the openness of our new age energy. It's not by "invitation only." The idea is that you see a member living in integrity. And you wonder how he has become such an upstanding member of the community that people look up to. So you ask him. He may tell you that he learned how to be a man of integrity by becoming a Mason. Then you want to learn how to do that too. And he may or may not sign a petition with you. And then the members vote on whether to accept you or not. They are NOT supposed to recruit! They are supposed to live a good example and attract members that way. Unfortunately, all the Aquarian kids coming in aren't buying it. And there is some recruiting going on so it doesn't die out. It means a lot to my husband for what ever reasons. Possibly a karmic thing. Who knows? But now I've mellowed and wish him well. I'm sure he thinks my love for Linda Goodman books is weird too. But he loves me anyway. It's all good. So why sit around trying to find something to criticize? Get excited about what you DO like!
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Pegesus Knowflake Posts: 302 From: Registered: Jan 2001
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posted December 16, 2007 10:20 PM
Hello everyone,Wow...amazing to see this old thread brought back again... Dan Brown's next book is supposed to be about Masonry. It will be interesting to see what he says about it. IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 4989 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 17, 2007 06:39 AM
The Mormons have very similar rituals to the Freemasons in their Temples (where only devout Mormons can go).All those hats, weired outfits and handshakes such cults practice are all a bit weired if you ask me! It's all just a form of MIND CONTROL. They like to dress up in funny hats and costumes in Bohemian Grove too, don't they? For anyone who hasn't heard much about Bohemian Grove- I really would recommend checking it out! IP: Logged |
Thorshammer Moderator Posts: 1126 From: salt lake city, utah, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted December 17, 2007 10:09 AM
I am curious what he has to say too. Wonder what they will stop him (or his intelligence will tell him not to write) from revealing. It's odd...doesn't it seem like more is leaking out nowadays, as if they are letting it because they have no fear of secrecy anymore and they know the time is now that people are going to accept it or blow it off as nothing more than boy games?Like those revelations about the times coming, maybe they are here and those in higher places know that no one can stop them now, hiding is a thing of the past. To think people would kill others for revealing this stuff 30 years ago. As of lately I have been feeling this intuitive feel of Sacrifice...maybe because of all the Sally stuff. It does make me want to keep my kids closer to me. IP: Logged |
silverstone Moderator Posts: 2886 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 17, 2007 09:37 PM
here's his upcoming novel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Solomon_Key ------------------ Between the woods and frozen lake The darkest evening of the year.... The only other sound's the sweep Of easy wind and downy flake. The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |