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StarLover33
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posted May 13, 2003 02:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How bad was your experience, don't tell me what it was, but tell me how bad?

This is so weird, creeping me out.

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hrj777
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posted May 14, 2003 04:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's just say it had a big impact on my life.

But don't be worried Starlover, just be aware and educate yourself. Don't take things for face value. Get the facts first.

Love and Light,

Heidi

PS. I think there is a thread somewhere about Linda and her experiences with the government and how she thinks they kidnapped her daughter. Unless I am going completely crazy. Maybe Randall knows where it is.

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StarLover33
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posted May 14, 2003 03:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I actually did a little research, to the so-called Illumanati, and it turns out there are a lot of people out there, who believe this could very well be true, and I really don't blame them either.

The supposed history goes, that the Illumanati formed around the 1700s with a group of men, that branched away from Masons and other secret societies. During the time, anything mystical was kept underground and away from the mass, and so these men were not your ordinary catholics. There plan was to create a one world government as well as a one world religion.
Eventually information leaked out and they were never heard from again. The theory goes, that they hide behind every single government, and most of all the big international banks. Where all the money goes, thats where you'll find them, they are the wealthiest of wealthiest, they're billionaires and you'll never see there faces. Instead of action, they want to control the mass by using mind and emotion. They want us to believe that we are free, they promote the media, and what we watch from movies to sports. Another plan that might come to reap, is the idea of putting computer chips in our brains, and putting barcodes on our hands, so that we always have an identification.

But of course, this may also be a concocted fantasy, perfect for a video game or just another movie. This could also be ugly misinformation so that we're constantly confused. I don't know, I don't know what to believe. This is just the information I got from various places. I want to stop thinking about it, becuase it's giving me a brain cramp.

My new opinion of David Icke, is that he's a decent man, trying to give us both fiction and truth whether he realizes or not.

You're very right, it's up to us, to use our best judgement in what we choose to believe.

-StarLover

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StarLover33
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posted May 14, 2003 04:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing that creeps me out, is the Book of Revelations, if you ever have a chance to read it, it refers to people putting marks on their hands and foreheads, in order to buy and sell from the beast. (Think of computer chips, and barcodes.)
The Beast has a lot of power and decieves many nations, it promises peace and no war.


I'm not trying to get all Bible freaky with you, I'm just adding to the idea, it could be true. Sorry.

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Randall
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posted May 15, 2003 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe I'll get Icke to speak at one of the future LindaCons.

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posted May 15, 2003 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really know much of anything, other than what I've read here and there around theses parts about David Icke but when I try to picture people like Bush being reptiles, I can't help but think of the reptilian portion of our brains. It seems to me that perhaps it's a metaphor taken too far. The reptilian portion of our brain is the pure instinct, devoid of emotional attachment that seeks only self-preservation. I also think of it as the extremely fearful portion of ours-elves. Perhaps it's just that people like Bush are operating from more of a fearful, instinctive, less emotionally evolved place than other people and so that translates through some psychic impressions as being a reptile. I dunno..just some immediate thoughts.

My question for Linda would certainly be regarding the Saturn Seven Cycle in some form. Maybe inquiring as to the sorts of impressions she had regarding her realization that Robert was Bill, stuff that she might not have written in Gooberz...

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StarLover33
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posted May 15, 2003 02:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what is everyone's opinion on the so called Illuminati?

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posted May 16, 2003 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Star, you should read Behold A Pale Horse by Bill Cooper, or at least read that one chapter on the Illuminati.

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StarLover33
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posted May 16, 2003 02:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really will get it. Thanks for recommending.

But you still haven't said your take on them?


-StarLover

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posted May 16, 2003 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With so much disinformation out there, I don't know what to think. There are several sects competing for power, but they basically come under two main categories: Those that want the Pope to head the NWO and those that don't. Could prove to be one heck of a power struggle that destroys both sides.

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StarLover33
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posted May 16, 2003 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right, who knows what to believe, none of this information sticks in my head.

I'm sorry, but what did you mean by the Pope and the NWO? Power struggle, for what though?

I just ordered the book from the library, and will be getting it in a couple of days.
Thanks for the all your ideas, that you've been giving to me recently.

-StarLover

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StarLover33
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posted May 16, 2003 05:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh you mean New World Order! Drrrr Sonia!

I'm such a dope. Yet, (I'm sorry to say this) but the pope is so ill. How can that be?

-StarLover

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posted May 16, 2003 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not necessarily the current Pope, but whoever holds that position at the time a one-world government takes hold. I find that thought ludicrous, because I don't see members of other religions bowing to the Papacy. Not that I have anything against the Pope or against Catholicism. Bush is a member of the secret society known as The Knights of Malta which swears allegience to the Pope above all else. The KOM are the Pope's militia.

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posted May 16, 2003 07:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This war in Iraq is not a just war and, thus, it is a sin.

Pope John Paul II

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StarLover33
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posted May 16, 2003 09:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, for the first time, I actually know what you're talking about.
I was doing some research online and picked up an article that I believe was no coincidence.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/corner/black-pope.htm

Note: This is extremely long! This man was interviewing an author who considers himself immortal, therefore untouchable. You probably know half of what he has to say, but there are some juicy tid bits, here and there.


-StarLover

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posted May 17, 2003 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted May 19, 2003 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I scanned it quickly (speed reader here). Where's the immortality part?

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StarLover33
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posted May 20, 2003 11:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's there, but a short sentence, I don't know maybe it's not worth it.

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StarLover33
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posted May 20, 2003 11:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the line-

Martin: Why haven't you been taken out?

Phelps: Because I am immortal--until the Lord is done with me. I am a Calvinist and a Baptist, and we believe in the sovereignty of God. And as long as we are operating in His Will, they cannot touch us, regardless of their power.

In the interview, there are some lines that I really dislike from this man, he talks has if he hates gay people, and I'm sure some of his theories are completly false. But other then that, there are some reliable information that will leave you pondering.

-StarLover

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Annie Kuzma
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posted May 23, 2003 08:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was raised by a father that always told me to keep my religion simple.
I was raised Catholic, and was never comfortable . My parents stopped going to church when I was young, and it wasn't a priority to go to Mass. My dad always said have faith in your heart, it will lead you. Faith in Christ.
My brother was raised by the same man, but he married young and into a family that detests Catholics. Over the next 20 or so years, he has changed his political and religious views. Everything this man in the article proports to is the way they believe. They think that EVERYONE but them are going to hell. He detests gays, and jews, catholics and especially any New Age thinking.
He says John Lennon was evil, and the song Imagine is evil.
On Mother's Day ( one of the few days a year he comes to see her), he wanted to know when My family was coming over. He didn't want to be around my husband and I and our kids,(2 and 6), because he said we "don't think the same". It broke my heart. He is mad at my husband because he wanted his preacher ONLY to do my father's funeral, and my husband insisted on a priest also. My dad was a life long Catholic.
If this is the way they are preaching in these churches, I will gladly take my kids to the Catholic church.
I can't see how looking for evil in everything is good. That God has favorites. Sure there is always heirachy everywhere!!!
It's human nature. We are supposed to be going past that, back to unity with God.By spreading fear, these people are giving satan/devil more power!!


One good thing,
you can always stop the dark with light!!!


PEACE AND LOVE
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posted May 23, 2003 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Off to the library today to get a loan on 'Behold a Pale Horse'.

juniperb

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StarLover33
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posted May 23, 2003 03:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Annie,

I am so sorry I didn't realize the sensitivity of our conversation.

The article was intended to enhance our conversation about supposed government conspirencies, and quite possibly the idea that the hiarchy of the Roman Catholic Church being involved. The article did not have any thing to say about the followers of the church personally.

However the man being interviewed, had some comments that seemed rather homophobic, but not serious as what you were implying in your comments.

I'm deeply deeply sorry if you misunderstood.

-Starlover

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StarLover33
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posted May 30, 2003 09:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, I'm having the worst time trying to attain Behold a Pale Horse at the library.

First, they gave me the wrong book with the same title. It was another book about government conspiracies but you could tell it was complete crap (done by another author).

Second, they tried finding the book in other local libraries, no where to be found, and that is so unlikely in the state of Mass. Gooberz was also like this too though.

Third, they hooked me up through other library systems, and I haven't heard from them in a week.

Geez, I had no problem getting Star Signs and Love signs from the library, but I just can't get a hold of this book.

Then a week ago, I found out the author was actually killed. That creeped me out big time.

-StarLover

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Randall
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posted May 30, 2003 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bill Cooper said he would be killed.

Rush Limbaugh once called him "the most dangerous man in America." Not sure what he meant by that, but Bill took it as a compliment.

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posted May 31, 2003 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like Limbaugh, by the way.

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