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posted May 20, 2003 03:48 PM         

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Hey Randall, I was just looking at a thread where you said that SIDS has a cause which doctors do no care to admit. Why do you think that the doctors do not want to admit the cause and what is the cause?

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posted May 21, 2003 04:02 AM         

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Vaccines (especially the DPT).

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posted May 21, 2003 07:04 AM           

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A lady in my state has been campaining against vaccinations and says that she thinks it causes autism....???

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posted May 21, 2003 09:32 PM         

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Randall, the article I gave you talks about the vaccinations as well, it also explained they are no good. Things like cancer, heart attack, clogged arteries...ect, can be caused by vaccinations...(don't worry everyone, it's still a theory.)

So again this guy can be completly false, who knows how to prove it true.

I had no choice but to take vaccinations for hepatitus and such for school.

-StarLover

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posted May 22, 2003 02:05 AM         

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There are exemptions to so-called vaccine "law"--religious, philosophical, and medical. College required them also, but I claimed a religious exemption.

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posted May 22, 2003 10:06 AM         

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Vaccines against sids??? But what is DPT? and where is there a vaccine and why would they give a grown person a vaccine for sids? it's a liitle late at that point isnt't it? And why would there be a law? Wait I think that I must have missed a post or something maybe it didn't come up?

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posted May 22, 2003 11:56 AM         

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No vaccine against SIDS. The Diptheria-Pertussis-Tetanus vaccine has been linked with crib death (causes encephalitis).

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posted May 22, 2003 04:33 PM         

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I'm still under my parents authority, therefore I've taken every vaccine with the rest of my generation, should I worry of problamatic symptoms in the future?

Are we in trouble, me and my generation?

My cousin is in the military, and he had to take all required vaccines including anthrax.

I remember Bush wanted to bring back the Small Pox vaccine, but doctors complained it would bring the disease back?

What the heck is going on?

What if Randall is right, were vaccines a mistake or were they intentional?

Damn it...

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posted May 23, 2003 03:13 AM         

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Vaccines are not required for military service IF you voice your disapproval in writing when you join. Same goes for international travel. Americans can travel anywhere and reject all vaccines. You should have a copy of the law, because most people are totally in the dark about immunization law, especially school robots (teachers).

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posted May 23, 2003 08:17 PM         

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Why did you call teachers "school robots" Randall? Is it because you disaprove of the school system? I disapprove of a lot of instructors who masquerade as Teachers. Anyone can read a book and relay information but teachers impart knowledge. I hope that you were not calling Teachers and instructors alike: school robots. Because you know that it takes a dedicated person to deal with not only the low wages and student's "attitudes" but also a school system with sets of rules that are disagreeable.

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posted May 23, 2003 08:24 PM         

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P.S. I'm not a school teacher

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posted May 23, 2003 09:39 PM         

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Teaching, like anything else, has good apples and bad. Rare is the exceptional jewel in any occupation. I went to school to be a teacher, but I was so totally turned off by the many teachers in my classes who couldn't think for themselves (especially about ADHD) that I lost respect for many of them.

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posted May 24, 2003 05:49 PM         

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I can dig it(unfortunately). I am in school right now and I have to come to terms with the conflict of not respecting the instructors but still respecting the degree and my education. Because the question that crosses my mind often is how can I respect my degree if I can't respect the so-called teachers.
maybe the "unfortunately" from above is not so unfortunately because I will learn about myself and ultimately others from struggle with the "negative" school experience.

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posted June 02, 2003 01:29 PM         

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Randall you mentioned ADHD my youngest daughter was diagnosed with adhd and is extremely difficult I had her on medication for awhile but was horrified by the side effects and decided to take her off of them The school was definitly not happy about my decision making comments like "You are not making the best choice for her" and other things to that effect but I know that medication just wasn't doing to her things I felt comfortable with. I also know that she is a leo and her rising is leo as well ( moon in sag) but I figured that douhble Leo has to have a big effect on her personality one teacher told me " She either has Adhd or she is the most stubborn child I have ever met" ( she is very stubborn and nothing on earth makes her move when she decides against it. This year we were blessed with a teacher who is very loving to all the kids in her class she does great projects with them gets them really involved and my daughter loves her and wants to work for her so she has done ok but Im cringing to see who she gets next year If the teacher doesn't have it in her ( that gift to really care about your students) my daughter just doesn't respond well Its like she sets out to make the teachers life harder. especially if she doesn't feel cared about thats my little lion

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posted June 02, 2003 06:12 PM         

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Hi Mica,
I am of the opinion that among other things, some cases of ADHD is a result of poor instructors(redundant). Some student are the type that can grasp the big complicated things that other students have problems understanding but they have a problem with the grasping of the fine details of any given discipline. But some teachers do not understand and think that the child is not intelligent and refuse "to waste anymore class time" and the child never learns those fine details.So then you have a child who has a weak foundation. Then they go to the next class and they don't know what's going on because of last year's teacher so they zone out or do badly on the work and the instructor calls it a disorder because the instructor themselves cannot grasp where the child is lacking. It is becoming painfully obvious that the mainstream school system is using only one set of education tactics and not taking into account that everyone learns differently. I could go on and on with examples and assertions but I have been long-winded already.

Okay, one more thing My sister is a Leo as well and they are saying that she has ADD but I think that if she does, it is a direct result of mean teachers who are underqualified, I don't care how long they have been working. Did you know that people hoping to be teachers only have to take one behavioral pschology class? I think that it's one, it might be two.(Maryland) These are the people that we are intrusting our children to. Some of them don't even care.

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posted June 03, 2003 02:50 AM         

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Medicate has replaced educate. Kids of today have trouble learning by sitting for long periods and doing worksheets.

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posted June 03, 2003 08:25 PM         

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Hi silverbells ! its funny that your sister is a leo as well What you said about the teachers not wanting to take time is very true I have found that in my daughters case if she isn't given time she just doesn't respond, which forces her teachers to eith give it to her or shes totally left behind its sad because so many kids are falling through the cracks

Hi Randall! your definitly right about them wanting to medicate kids I can't tell you how many of the people working at my daughters school have quetioned me in regards to that. Everyone seems to want her medicated but she turns into alittle zombie while on meds and her eyes look to lifeless in addition to all the physical side effects ( stomach aches , trouble sleeping, lose of appetite) it just wasn't worth it

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posted June 04, 2003 02:32 AM         

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Kids should be able to be kids.

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posted June 04, 2003 04:43 PM         

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AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! (Argh!!!) I am so frustrated!!!!

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posted July 27, 2003 05:00 AM         

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Yes, I was one who slipped through the system on a Polio vaccine. At the time they were given in the 1st grade i think, Because my father was a Chiropractor, he could say that he did not want me to have it, so i didn't. Hmmm -- so i am one without that circular scar on the upper arm.

Also, when I was a baby, DPT was given to me and my Mother said i nearly died.

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posted September 01, 2003 07:57 AM         

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posted September 01, 2003 11:56 PM         

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Just read this topic and wanted to say "I totally concur, Randall!" My son just started kindergarten and gosh are people unconscious. Fortunately, some people are trying to open a school for indigos in our area and he will be there. We were able to do the religious exemption for vaccinations in Florida with no questions asked.

I wish I knew how unnecessary the shots were when he was a baby. My 2 year old has had a few and my 1 yr old has had zero. I feel so fortunate we have not had the terrible experiences with them that some families have had. A teacher friend of mine teaches deaf students and some are deaf due to the vaccinations. One child in our area developed Polio when they were doing the live vaccine.
I can get so upset about this issue because it all stems from money(greed) and the pharmaceutical companies and their lobbyists. They won't allow the truth out, which is that these vaccines are not even needed anymore. A homeopathic doctor here can and has cured supposedly uncurable illnesses and diseases. Glad to see people are becoming more aware of truth!

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posted September 02, 2003 01:15 PM         

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posted September 03, 2003 01:36 PM         

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posted September 06, 2003 12:29 PM         

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Maybe one day we will be able to exempt our pets also.

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