posted September 21, 2007 11:21 PM         

THE UNEXPECTED KATHLEEN MCGOWAN
AUTHOR FACTS STRANGER THAN FICTION
Sunday, August 12, 2007
by Rollan McCleary

I have read The Expected One but am less interested in the novel than its author, Kathleen McGowan, who claims she’s descended from Jesus and the Magdalene, and who employs the medium of fiction to explain how she arrived at these beliefs. The novel itself, the first of three - the next volume is The Book of Love about a gospel Jesus supposedly wrote - was at least sometimes more attractive to me than the inevitable comparison, The Da Vinci Code.

Yet I still periodically wondered if I would be able to get through the novel. The second half is more polished than the first which contains some odd sentences and clichés so that I was not surprised a critic took exception to sentences like one from the first chapter I had noticed like: “History hung heavy in the rarified and holy air as the faithful hurried to houses of worship in preparation for their respective Sabbaths”. Anyway, I feel the writer’s skill developed in the writing and editorial advisors were asleep or overly polite about some passages (and the spelling of some French phrases).

But as said, ultimately it was the mystery of the author and her mind that kept me going. However much I disagree with what McGowan proposes I remain intrigued by what she imagines she’s dealing in, namely major new/alternative information about Jesus. Also how she got this material to the public after allegedly years of struggle is something that naturally interests me after years of experience of the same kind of effort. It seems her Irish Catholic musician husband (McGowan herself has a Baptist background) helped considerably.

Nevertheless by now the Irish American, Hollywood born McGowan has more than overcome any difficulties. While she loudly defends her “Truth against the World” position and protests the injustice of those who demand more academic, written, standard evidence from her, in fact she is very much being heard on her own informal terms with publishing backing her and putting out Expected in at least fifteen languages. Despite the unusual and for some even offensive claims McGowan is making there was not a paper or magazine I applied to in Ireland ( mainly Northern Ireland where McGowan is supposed to have worked in journalism and first report of her claims came through) was interested to have any comment from me. This is from someone published, an Irish national, a doctor of religious studies and himself similarly, if on a very different basis, claiming original information on Jesus at variance with McGowan’s. So she’s well defended and supported for alternative Jesus cults and clearly Ireland is changed or changing.

FICTION, FACTION AND NEW GOSPELS THROUGH FRANCE

The title “The Expected One” refers to prophecies in the traditionally Cathar regions of France that at some point one of the Magdalene’s descendants (she has a special representative in each generation) will present to the world her true story along with a gospel she wrote. The novel includes excerpts from this Magdalene gospel discovered through France - but paraphrased and adapted for the modern reader according to the important Afterword. If you accept the much disputed record of what McGowan has been doing and writing in France and Ireland – there’s no record she was editor of a paper in Ireland though she seems to have been some kind of freelance journalist - then she has been researching her subject for nearly two decades (since 1989) and is very much in touch with some Zeitgeist besides. Necessarily so because if the book cannot be seen as remarkably anticipating both The Da Vinci Code and publication of The Judas Gospel then you will think it has managed to ride in on their coat tails. (However we must allow coincidences – Slavoj Zizev’s The Puppet and The Dwarf of 2003 makes Judas out to be an “ethical hero” and anticipates the Gospel of Judas's line).

Whatever, although Expected is similar to Code for its Magdalene theme, for its French secret societies (and even its murder theme opening ) plus its trendy Gospel of Judas style desire to excuse Judas (and quite a few other people) the novel still contradicts and varies upon claims of DVC and Gnostic gospels considerably. Yes, Jesus was married and had children but he was still divine, crucified and was resurrected even if his project amid this wasn’t to redeem the world (he only died because his good friend Judas bungled some plans!) but rather to give an example and messages of especially forgiveness. For this the Magdalene was Jesus’ true mouthpiece, his real apostolic successor, not the other disciples. It’s incidentally an idea of the book, and a rather Gnostic one, that if one just accepts this forgiveness one will never suffer again. Indeed even Jesus himself didn’t really suffer on the cross and Annas and Caiaphas who realized they made a mistake about Jesus felt bad about it but could have stopped their agonizing over it and got happy if they would have just let go the guilt.

KATHLEEN MCGOWAN’S VARIOUS SOURCES

McGowan’s sources for what she is revealing are threefold and are:

1) Various Gnostic and apocryphal sources like The Gospel of Pilate which make Pilate and his wife virtual saints. Anything approaching the given gospel story of Jesus McGowan recalls in interview having first warmed to at ten years old following attendance at the (itself largely apocryphal and based on Judas’ view of events) Jesus Christ Superstar musical. She began singing its Magdalene’s song repeatedly, her first identification with the Magdalene so she “blames” her subsequent obsession with MM on Rice and Webber. Overall McGowan is biased towards any alternative sources having developed what’s called “a hermeneutic of suspicion” as a result of living in the Ireland of the Troubles. This made her realize the extent to which there's bias and contradiction in the reporting of events. And then there was simply her experience of being a woman. Put the two together and history itself is something to be doubted, especially woman’s.

2) Oral traditions and a variety of private sources in mainly France, sources McGowan cannot or will not reveal because they supposedly compromise people’s safety or secret society rules. This could at least in some instances be true though her information lets down credibility in some places rather badly. Her Magdalene Gospel of Arques is named for and linked in the novel to the Arcadia tomb at Arques, allegedly portrayed in the centuries old famous Poussin picture Et in Arcadia Ego. In fact this tomb, now demolished to keep trespassers away, was only built in 1933 and its Poussin associations belongs to the hoax invented by M. Plantard that the authors of The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail took up.

3) Visions McGowan has had and which supply her unique perspectives. Near the beginning of the novel Maureen goes to Jerusalem as McGowan did and is suddenly overcome by a vision of the Magdalene on the way to the crucifixion, a Magdalene who asks for her help. McGowan also claims that she was years trying to process the revelation (i.e. vision ) that MM was first married to a very reluctant John the Baptist (who was a bit of wife beater and who got executed because the really well intentioned Nazarene follower, Salome, in defending Mary tried to get John imprisoned, not as happened, executed!)

However misguided (and even opportunistic) she might be at a certain level I detect McGowan is sincere in her way. I doubt she would quite write the following if she didn’t mean it:

There were many, many times when I wondered about my worthiness to tell this story. I don’t think I’ve slept through the night in more than ten years as I have agonized over the details in this book and its potential repercussions. (p.439)

Also perhaps the admission:

“It literally took years for me to process that revelation [about John the Baptist’s marriage to the Magdalene and his abusive behaviour] before I was prepared to write about it. (p.437)

The first of these statements gives a framework for composition of the book. A bit over 10 years even if not the more contestable approximately 20 years that she tried to persuade her publisher was the case. Before 1997 she had certainly been looking into alternative histories of famous, often maligned people especially women; but something more definite started around 1997 and we can know what it was, namely a trip to Israel. The big question is whether it was a trip for or about the book and the Magdalene story we now have or if a vision about the Magdalene in 1997 was the source of the book. Indelibly inscribed at the Linda-Goodman.com site for 1999 at
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000100.html

we find a message from Kathleen McGowan describing her movements and interests.

She says that in 1997 she visited Israel to study the Essene mysteries, stars, plants etc. This journey was influenced by reaction to her friend, pop astrologer Linda Goodman’s passing, which makes it sound as though it occurred that year rather than 1995. No word here about seeing, studying, or fictionalizing the Magdalene but plenty about the occult and tarot (which McGowan says she has practiced since childhood) and numerology. Supposedly under Goodman’s influence (she was a fan who had only spoken on phone to Goodman but knew rather better Goodman’s confidante, Crystal Bush) she got to preparing a set of star cards to teach a form of numerology. The same site contains an angry letter from “Donna” who tells about legal arguments with a publisher over McGowan’s alleged attempts to erase her contributions to McGowan’s work.

AN ISIS WORSHIPPING, TAROT PRACTICING JESUS DESCENDANT

In December 1998 in honour of Linda Goodman (who had supposedly spoken to McGowan from the other side about a problem with her numerology work) McGowan records that she performed her annual promised secret ritual to Isis and Osiris. While McGowan is entitled to follow whatever beliefs she likes it is, to put it mildly, ironic that someone claiming descent from Jesus and the Magdalene with discoveries of their true teachings for the world should want or need to be worshipping Isis. It would however be consistent with claims elsewhere on the Net that McGowan has been changing personas (in a style fiction writers often do, blending truth and reality, re-writing their own and other people’s histories) at one time back in the nineties putting herself out as descendant of Celtic high priestesses. If so, presumably she wasn’t so deeply if at all into the Jesus dynasty theories as long ago as portrayed. Ten years at most. Or perhaps there wasn’t any clear starting point for specific research ….it was a matter more of precisely vision.

Just as she allowed the deceased Linda Goodman’s voice to illumine her numerology commentary, I should say McGowan is strongly clued into the occult and her visions act as authority with other data a rather minor second. And I would guess that whatever else may be true or false about her McGowan does have these visions ( she has insisted in interviews that the novel's story of vision of the Magdalene in Jerusalem is absolutely authentic as are other reported visions). Her novel’s heroine is Maureen Paschal, a family name she discovers is a Cathar one linked to Magdalene claims. This name and theme fictionalizes issues McGowan portrays as important to her like discovering facts about her father and forebears she would never have imagined like the involvement of her Baptist grandfather in Free Masonry and the esoteric generally.

If McGowan’s forebears had these esoteric involvements then without there being anything so dramatic as a Jesus lineage she could have, as in wicca linked families, inherited spiritual connections of another sort. I am aware that the concern some Christians have about believers dividing their faith with secret societies is because of the sort of legacy (“contracts”) this supposedly sets up, not simply a case of intuitional or psychic sensitivity such as anyone might possess on a genetic basis but contact with spirits which especially arts like Tarot that McGowan has practiced bring into play. Divination as of Tarot is believed to be linked to a specific Spirit of Divination.

A STRANGE SPIRIT STORY

Here I shall make brief digression to tell a story linked to the difficult subject of familiar spirits such as – possibly - McGowan inherits and communicates with when she hears Goodman beyond the grave or sees the Magdalene all over the place. Some years ago someone I knew in astrology circles was recommended to a supposedly very expert Tarot reader whom she visited out of curiosity. This person told me she could never forget and never explain how and why at some point into the session with the pleasant and accurate consultant, suddenly terror overtook her. So as not to seem offensive to the reader or personally ridiculous she had to prevent herself from screaming and running from the room because there, standing above the reader was this terrifying, ugly, salivating monster. I said I couldn’t explain the incident any more than herself unless to say it could have been she had seen a spirit of divination, a “familiar spirit” such as gives the occult such predictive success as it enjoys amid the deceptions and errors and the reason divination is scripturally under ban. (Please note divination is what is based on intuition or working with spirits, not what is empirically derived as in the case of astrology which fundamentalist but not Jews like to lump with the black arts).

LINDA GOODMAN, THE MCGOWAN GURU

Even if this peculiar story is irrelevant Linda Goodman, a sort of occult guru to McGowan, isn’t. Goodman is so important for McGowan’s worldview and for modern New Ageism more generally that we aren’t surprised to learn that like St Francis of Assisi, Joan of Arc and most people of any significance, she’s a Jesus descendant too! The only trouble is that Goodman isn’t quite in a league with the others. The book Linda Goodman’s Star Signs whose numerologies McGowan took so seriously and developed surely deserves a prize for whacky occultism (when I read it parts of the book had me nearly falling off my chair for laughter). Inspired by some spirit who materialized to her in the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel in the course of the book Goodman theorizes she, and in effect no one, needs to die but can live indefinitely on air as a breatharian. She even supplies a diet towards gradually reaching that stage via vegetarian and fruitarian stages.

Whether or not Goodman followed it herself and it contributed to her premature decease the fact is she died in 1995, officially of diabetic complications and staged no resurrections as might have been appropriate given her beliefs re alleged ancestry. She also wrote a huge quasi- autobiographical novel-*** -epic called Goobers about mainly love and reincarnation all in a sort of poetic doggerel. It’s a work that is near Bible to McGowan who admits in her Afterword always to have it to hand. If I rightly recall from my cursory look at the book years ago it included some rather derogatory remarks regarding the Holy Spirit whom Goodman didn’t seem to deem too reliable in marked contrast to the number of the Beast/Antichrist which she speaks of in her numerology in Star Signs. Again this is a pretty poor showing from an assumed Jesus descendant and a spiritually bad vibe too, but McGowan evidently hasn’t taken any warning signals from it (rather like someone I know who had an affair with somebody claiming Jesus descent and who regrets the experience because this person was too much into the dark side).

But McGowan’s trust was perhaps inevitable. The lesson you would learn from Goodman’s esoteric obsessions is to defy all obvious fact and call it something like McGowan’s “Truth against the world”. Another Goodman blind spot had been refusing to accept her daughter was disappeared, dead and would never return. Police finally closed the case as suicide, accidental or deliberate. For years and until the end of her life Goodman was forever invoking power and faith at a personal altar to make her daughter return. It was astrology that gave her the pretext but then her astrology was itself strange. She used a system of houses that most astrologers consider pretty unworkable but this would again fit some “truth against the world” policy as would her insistence against all the facts that Marilyn Monroe had to have been born two months before the given date under Aries, not Gemini.

What perhaps most unites Goodman and McGowan is their birth under the Ram of Aries, the sign strong on ego awareness and the battle. McGowan’s story so far and to judge from the tales floating around is a history of spats, confrontations with people and legal disputes and beyond that a major argument with the world as given, a battle against fact and history. Sometimes McGowan regrets the (biblical) record she subverts and supplants as when she declares John the Baptist to have been an unsatisfactory abusive first husband of the Magdalene and progenitor of yet another special lineage through his one son. (This one son “Little John” whom Jesus adopts when he married the Magdalene is then the source of the idea of a “Beloved Disciple”!). It’s all heady stuff and just possibly having presented the world next year with a gospel Jesus wrote, McGowan will live to regret a few more “revealed” facts. It would be appropriate if publishing and media shared a few regrets about the promotion of this kind of material but it’s not too likely - originally self published it’s gone way beyond any Irish cottage industry by now.

Finally…..I see there is a McGowan Blog if you want to follow further developments and declarations. You may be surprised that for Magdalene’s day July 22nd this year along with prayer to this saint and insistence she was in France and can be felt around the St Baume area McGowan writes as easily as a rationalist about “legends” of the Magdalene. Is there a rationalist side to McGowan?. Who knows? But it does seem likely there will always be an unexpected side.

Posted by Rollan McCleary at 5:58 AM
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3 comments:
Cepheus said...
You put a lot of time and research into the review about McGowan and her background. It was an excellent review. I hope you post a copy at amazon.

Out of kindness (?) you left out a few more details such as her harrassment, attacks and threats against authors and unfavorable critics, or the fact that she has been publicly accused of acquiring most of her "inspiration" and source material from others (not from the dreams and visions she alludes to in her story) including what she calls "the Gospels of Magdalene." Makes one wonder where she will get the "Gospels of Jesus" from for her next book (if indeed that ever materializes).

McGowan appears to be someone who is morally bereft of good judgement when it comes down to her ego and the almighty dollar.

McGowan is a woman constantly on the lookout for ways to reinvent herself and scam the public.
Well, as they say, "Every girl has her price." And her fifteen minutes of fame.

However few would go as far as McGowan for an almighty dollar. Her conflicting and ever-changing claims have been appearing on the internet for years.

""Oh the tangled webs we weave when we first practice to deceive....""

Thanks for the excellent and thought-provoking review.

August 27, 2007 3:36 AM
Critic said...
A fascinating exploration of the Kathleen McGowan phenomenon. Thank you.

There is a long and detailed review of her book under the title "Don't Expect Much from The Expected One", at http://www.mania.com/forums/showthread.s=beaphp?7c6e9168d0c830a2444c8f5aed336&t=2469

This looks at the book rather than its author, so in a way complements your comment.

As you say, there has been a lot of discussion on the internet about McGowan's history over the last few years, particularly her contributions to (and perhaps borrowings from) a number of online speculative groups.

Perhaps the most pertinent point is that the Yahoo group about her book does not allow ANY comment or discussion that she might disagree with, and immediately bans any member who shows the slightest element of independent thought. Banning free speech is a sign of dogmatism and despotism, not of the enlightened person McGowan claims to be.

September 1, 2007 8:09 AM
Richard said...
Spot-on. Those of us who've known Kathleen Harkey Smith (her real name) as an overtly hostile and polarizing presence on various internet forums for the past decade can attest to the fact that her obsession with Magdalene is of recent vintage. Ten years ago she was an IRA courier, a Wiccan high priestess, and a natural blonde. The pinnacle of her literary career at that point had been the ill-conceived "Tragic Kingdom-Inside Michael Eisner's Disney", written while she was herself a Disney employee and which compromised the careers and livelihood of several colleagues who didn't know their words would wind up in print. The book was published and quickly pulped by two vanity publishers in the wake of staggering legal entanglements, while Smith merely changed her name (though not legally) and set of in search of her next incarnation. Her past is too broadly diffused not to catch up with her at every step.

September 1, 2007 9:26 AM
Post a Comment to his blog

Again, I just found this, thought I'de share it. It is not my own opinion in any way or form. If you feel the urge to post a comment to his blog, I've provided the link. As well as the direct link to the article. I, myself have never read anything written by her or about her, until just a few days ago. "Here in this very forum." It seems to me her works are highly controversial outside of Linda Land, maybe even here, I'm unsure. I do plan to read her book. In fact I'm planning to head to an online bookstore in just a moment to purchase it. -So here I am wondering what this fuss is really all about? After reading the book and learning more, I plan to bombard this guys post with my own interpretations, feelings, and opinions. I would urge you all to do the same. I will have to say also that I was surprised to see links to this very site within the article! Somehow, prior to today I missed the connection with this lady and Linda Goodman. Did'nt know that there was any, LOL! Guess I'll have to spend a bit more time reading through some of the posts in here, huh? For all I know, the author above could be a member here as well!
THE UNEXPECTED KATHLEEN MCGOWAN

posted September 22, 2007 12:19 AM           

did this really need to be posted?

no one has any respect these days...

some things should be left alone. ...

posted September 22, 2007 02:29 AM         

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*I just found this, thought I'de share it.
it is not my own opinion in any way or form.

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Lotus, please know I was trying to be kind and participate to this board by sharing this thing I discovered with all of you. I thought those of you who knew more of this author and her history would be interested in either defending it by a post to the blog or educating me otherwise.

I really truely thought "shock" when I saw this. I hav'nt taken the time to read through the pages of info on this book or this lady. I only know that you had just begun reading it and seemed to be liking it. Also that Thorshammer, I believe thought that you would like it. I respect his opinions as well as share a common ground of Saggie Sun spirit with him...and thought to myself, I shall check this book out so I had intentions to purchase it.
Again, If I'm missing something more...
[seems... I usually am, LOL!] Do let me know. If this is personal in nature, you are more than welcome to contact me via email. My email is yourfriendinspirit@gmail.com

I have nothing more to contribute on this subject as I have not yet even read the flippin' book. I don't understand the tears, tears, tears at all except that crying won't fix this. If you feel angry or hurt by this article, stand up and do something about it! Post 3000 responses to this guys blog if you like! I'll stand right beside you! I'll be the one cheering you on and holding your hand if you will. Because I do trust you. But more importantly I have respect for Linda Goodman!
Please Lotus Re-Read the portions in the original post where I am talking [they should be italicized]
Please share what the deal is?
Who is this lady? Did she really know Linda?
I'm starting to feel very stupid, when all I had intended was to become educated about this.

Sending Love to you...
Hugs too, for any tears I may have inadvertantly caused.

posted September 22, 2007 02:39 AM           

it's not your fault, everything happens for a reason, I must always remember this

posted September 22, 2007 02:49 AM           

You can email me, if you like
lotusheart10@yahoo.ca ..that's .ca

there's so much more to this..but I am tired, and need sleep...

posted September 25, 2007 07:26 PM         

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

posted September 25, 2007 09:00 PM         

It's supposed to be a signed 1st edition!!!

posted October 02, 2007 04:58 AM         

I always find it amazing to hear people speak of what they did...they put the truth right out in front of you...

like this:

"The book Linda Goodman’s Star Signs whose numerologies McGowan took so seriously and developed surely deserves a prize for whacky occultism (when I read it parts of the book had me nearly falling off my chair for laughter)"

Did he say "WHEN I READ IT PARTS OF THE BOOK?"

and also:

"if I rightly recall from my cursory look at the book years ago it included some rather derogatory remarks regarding the Holy Spirit whom Goodman didn’t seem to deem too reliable in marked contrast to the number of the Beast/Antichrist which she speaks of in her numerology in Star Signs"

Did he say "CURSORY LOOK AT THE BOOK?"

Definition of CURSORY...many of them

1) going rapidly over something, without noticing details; hasty; superficial: a cursory glance at a newspaper article.

2)Performed with haste and scant attention to detail: a cursory glance at the headlines.

3)adjective
hasty and without attention to detail; not thorough; "a casual (or cursory) inspection failed to reveal the house's structural flaws"; "a passing glance"; "perfunctory courtesy" [syn:

The Author talks about Kathleen in such a ego and hasteful way they don't even see their own flaws in their speaking truth.

We all know that in order to understand STAR SIGNS Linda stated that STAR SIGNS was to be read from the beginning not the middle, not the end..from beginning to end..so the author is mistaken in his interpretation of things that are so clear to those that have read the book again and again.

NOW he said that when he read it parts had him laughing..if this was so...why go on and skim through Gooberz...what was it that inclined him to keep reading Linda if he thought it was whacky? did she not touch him in some way...to keep reading the next installment.

THESE BOOKS are stepping stones....each book that "LINDA" wrote are learning lessons...ending with Gooberz telling her story and perhaps being your last lesson in what truth is and what to be careful of in the time that she is gone...lessons and warnings...

and remember LInda said, "You must remember that, under Universal Law, Light shining from a mountaintop will inevitably attract darkness.
The dark forces on Earth cannot halt the Aquarian age earthquake of Illumination, nor banish the new hunger for supernatural knowledge and ancient wisdom, but they can use the growing tide of enlightenment for their own nefarious purposes by twisting its messages and distorting its clarion call of truth"

NOW...

I am not saying the Author is "who" is spoken of above...I just see the vile negativity the article brought, the wolves came out to venture and bit at her feet again and in tail tried to bring our beloved Linda to the muddy pits...but we know they can never keep a good woman down...

listen to the words of the article...listen to the smell...you can tell...you can feel the truth?

LOTUS my Beloved...why do you despair the words of others...YOU MUST STAY STRONG. The world is a Illusion...you know this.

I applaud YOURFRIENDINSPIRIT (a sagi) for finding that article...for judgement of rule always falls in the right hands to be judged by those that know better.

Do not be saddened Lotus or let your heart deflate...you're not ATLAS nor are you meant to me...just let that love shine...AND DON't Accuse others of being others...you know this is not right.

You must let your heart reopen to any hardness you have toward others...for they are still our brothers and sisters no matter what.

I say this to you...if Rolland McCleary is the same person who authored the two books,

Signs for a Messiah: The First and Last Evidence for Jesus and A Special Illumination: Authority, Inspiration and Heresy in Gay Spirituality, I am sure they have some outlying contrast with Kathleen's books also...though he stated other books...he never mentions his...if he is the author of those books.

And still to me...it just shows he did not really understand Linda, Kathleen nor the true message left.

It was a really nice article until he got on a rant about things that were really of no importance and he took that and ran his piece into a circus or embarrassment for himself.

I recall someone once writing on here that they too had written in many papers and such, and I find it so odd that Kathleen working on other projects that might deal with Linda or any other variant...that one would consciously or unconsciously try to hinder what can not be hindered...do you catch my drift?

I can't wait until numerology is proven in exactly the way she explained it...of course there will be another masquerading under other names and identities just as they accused Kathleen of and they will run their mouths again and again without reading thoroughly through the proof, but so "CURSORY" moving though things.

WE KNOW ONCE AGAIN what is happening...just another trying to stop truth from coming through.

I can't tell you if the story of Magdeline is true and I don't really worry about it, I know that Kathleen was given a flame to carry and unlike many who have not ever been published or those that are but haven't accomplished being published in 15 languages...well I can see a touch of resentment from ones hard work.

ALSO...though Dan Brown's book is filled with really good research turned into a story...WE KNOW that he is a scholar and had information at his finger tips through the university and later through the internet and that he also was sued by the authors of the holy blood holy grail book who accused him of taking from there book and I believe he said he did get some ideas from them...though no compensation was rewarded to the authors of the grail book...still the fight will always go on...you just need to see who the true seekers are and where the FInders are, for they are two different souls searching for each other.

We know that Linda had it before the Internet ever existed and that she held it in books and personal research she did through travel and other means...

who is older..and more wiser...Dan or Linda?

The Tales of old are always forgotten by the new and young..but the old alway remember them as they have always been.

posted October 03, 2007 04:28 PM         

Sadly my book has not yet arrived...
I am anxiously awaiting!!!

posted October 06, 2007 08:30 PM         

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its JUDAS too...I just feel that.

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You're welcome, yourfriendinspirit. And thank you for the heads up on Ebay. I always forget about Ebay ... which is good for our finances, lol. I just bought a copy for 3 cents, plus S&H. So excited to receive it! Once I make my way through it, I'll try to post here with my thoughts. Maybe we can discuss it after we've all read it? That would be nice!

posted October 12, 2007 08:09 PM         

I received my book just yesterday, it seems that UPS delivered it to my neighbor in my absense sometime last week, LOL!

I will begin reading it this evening after my little ones are off to bed, when it's peaceful and oh so quiet. I can hardly wait...

posted October 15, 2007 11:03 PM         

When ever your ready Eleanore...