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posted August 30, 2002 11:57 AM            

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Yes, why?

And I find this reluctance more pronounced with Women, than Men (You can bother to correct me, if I am wrong).

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posted August 30, 2002 04:35 PM              

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It's becuase of Religion! Like for example the Bible and the Quran teaches you to be ashamed of your body (especially for women)or atleast that is how it's interpreted by some people!
Do you remember learning about the Pilgrims/Thanksgiving and how they were completly covered up (they were Puritans.)
The same puritans that eventually persecuted witches.
-Oh ya the same for the Yamish!It's been that way for centuries.

-Some women are taught to be prude becuase they think men are the agressors of sex!

-StarLover

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posted August 30, 2002 08:05 PM              

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I think it's because most of us are told, from early childhood on, that it's "wrong!" That's a lot of years of mental conditioning ....so much conditioning that sometimes even when we get "approval" with marriage, it's difficult to suddently turn something "wrong" into something "right." ......

I think times are changing tho, and while I don't consider myself a prude, I'm inclined to think maybe it's changing a little tooooo much! *sigh*

Luv,
Rainbow~

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posted September 03, 2002 05:57 PM              

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http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000098.html

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posted September 04, 2002 09:00 AM            

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posted September 04, 2002 11:03 AM            

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Why do religions ask us to be ashamed of physical union? which we teach our children too?

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posted September 06, 2002 11:34 PM              

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It's my understanding, that TRUTH, and religious teachings often gets distorted, thru the centuries....not only distorted, but twisted, so that a lot of it is not even recognizable, as the way it was originally presented! *sigh*.....consequently, we've been taught that something very natural, and God given...is a sin....

...however, from the looks of the way the world is going today, there are those, who not only do not consider it a sin, but on the other end of the scale, take something that should be sacred and beautiful between two people, and blatantly use it in unnatural and crude ways...*sigh*...(porno, for example!)

Just my two cents....`

The greyone's link has some very good info, too..

Rainbow~

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posted September 10, 2002 08:48 AM            

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Raining bow, God's views on this topic would be very interesting to you. Conversations with God Book 2.

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posted September 25, 2002 08:24 PM              

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posted October 09, 2002 10:55 PM              

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My understanding of why women are made to cover up is because it was Eve who tempted Adam with the apple. Somewhere along the way (upon the exit from Eden) things got turned into women covering up so as not to tempt men into further sin. I was also told the apple thing is why women have labor pains, menstrual cramps, etc.

I have no idea why this conversation prompted the memory of something I learned in Catholic school when I was 14. That was weird.

But it also prompted this memory that has nothing to do with this subject. The same teacher who told me (okay, told the class) the above also told us for every disease there is a plant that will cure it.

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posted October 10, 2002 03:11 AM            

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Interesting.

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posted October 10, 2002 09:34 AM              

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First, welcome to LindaLand, Lioness .... are you a Leo, too

Second, I'm pondering and spiraling on your comment about a plant for each disease. I want to press for more information. Would HIV be considered a disease, or "just a virus," for example.

More importantly, I found mysElf nodding my head in agreement. It's one of those things that while I can't prove in any logical way .. it makes sense. After all, if I was God (I reason like this alot hehe) I would balance the world thusly.

Third ... I'm spiraling now ... is Mortality a disease? Could there be a plant to cure this? Or more likely ... a fruit? The orange? Oooo, I'm tingling now. Thank you for the contribution.

Oh, and I always like to point out ... the fruit Eve tempts Adam with is not neccesarily an apple.

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posted October 10, 2002 11:57 AM            

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I think you have a point there, Lioness823

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posted October 11, 2002 07:44 AM              

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I think my teacher was trying to make a point when she said that about diseases and plants. She started out by saying how we need to save the Rain Forest and other areas like that. Then she went on to say we need to save them because for all we know the cure for cancer could be in one of those plants. Then she went further to say there is a plant that will cure every disease man faces including AIDS. You decide...I know you partially teasing.

And yes, I am a Leo. What gave me away? Hehe.

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posted October 11, 2002 10:30 AM              

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I wasn't teasing.

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posted October 11, 2002 12:25 PM              

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I am not ashamed of physical union. I guess with other women there could be a multitude of reasons. Of course besides religion there is the tendency to call women that have sex '***** ' but men that have sex are 'studs'

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posted October 11, 2002 10:49 PM              

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My apologies Grasshopper. I'm glad it gave you something to consider as it did me.

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posted October 12, 2002 03:57 AM            

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posted October 12, 2002 07:22 AM              

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Amber made a really valid point about women who are freer about physical unions being referred to as a few not so nice words but men who are freer are referred to in a more positive light. Let's face it, if all those men are having sex then there must be women (or maybe other men) with them. So how could the man be a stud and the woman be a **** ? They each agreed to be together.

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posted October 12, 2002 11:16 AM            

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posted October 12, 2002 11:25 AM            

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For women the story of Lillith I think definetly has something to do with it. Lilith representing the darker side of feminity, as sexuality has for many years been banished and forbidden knowledge to women. That we have two sides to discover and balance Eve and lilith, light and dark, submission and power. That we are equal to men , religion being symbolic to our plight, that only by awakening our sexuality do we no longer fear it.
So as a woman to be ashamed of sex meams that u fear what others think of you, if u are very openly sexual others may call u a harlet or devil woman, if u are virginal others may call u frigid, ice queen or soemthing... so unless u have a fear of intimacy as being a deeper reason, being ashamed of physical means that u are afraid of that in yourself.

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posted October 13, 2002 08:55 AM            

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Wise words--balancing Eve and Lilith.

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posted October 15, 2002 11:56 AM            

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Wise words also, Lioness.

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posted October 18, 2002 09:06 PM              

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Sigh! I am in love with a demi-god. I think that it involves more the sensation of permeation and is neither indulgence nor abstinence.

love,

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posted October 19, 2002 05:34 AM              

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i remember back in middle school our teacher telling us every time you are intimate with somebody they take a piece of your soul with them, which you can never get back. For some reason this always stuck with me, what do you guys think ???????

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