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Topic: Mark of the beast
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NeoKitty
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posted January 27, 2005 12:00 AM
 
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"And he causes small and great, rich and poor, free and bond
to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead
so no-one can buy and sell
unless they have this mark or the name of the beast,
or the number of his name…his number is 666," - Revelation 13:18
What the scary thing is, is that the mainframe computer for all the bank's computer center had been nicknamed 'the beast'. And it's processor idenitification number is 60-66.  Eventually we will be living in a cashless society, then goes the plastic! This has been tested well enough, and it's already an agenda to use an implanted chip that will be used to buy or sell. And obviously will hold all our personal information.
The place they will implant it is most likely our right hand, it will be powerd by our own body heat, and run on lithium. There are a few reasons why this will be implemented, number 1. is security, terrorism is a great way to convince the mass that this is the safest way to go.T errorists will be tracked, as everyone else will be able to be identified.
number 2. is convenient to be without cash- i.e. lower banking fee's, counterfiets, security ect... quote:
TIME Magazine, in its APRIL 27, 1998 VOL. 151 NO. 16 article, "The Future of Money," describes how soon "your daughter can store [her] money any way she wants--on her laptop, on a debit card, even (in the not too distant future) on a chip implanted under her skin."
This is a reality people. A true prophecy being fulfilled! You can't refuse this- you will need your chip to buy bread.
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"And dreams, don't ever forget, are the first step in manifesting wishes into reality"-- Linda Goodman's Star Signs IP: Logged |
NeoKitty
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posted January 27, 2005 12:20 AM
When this happens I will not concur- I will join a commune and wont be a part of this.
I will live off the land- This is important for all immortals to be aware of- of course- they'd know what to do, they probably already know this is a reality.
You cannot hide your identity if you have a chip. This agenda is REAL...I'm far from a conspiracy nut- I know this in my heart- for all that it's worth.  ------------------
"And dreams, don't ever forget, are the first step in manifesting wishes into reality"-- Linda Goodman's Star Signs IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted January 27, 2005 12:40 AM
I remember hearing about this from a few different sources. Once on Coast to Coast am, a great radio show. I do believe there is a high probability it will happen. When it does, I am off to the hills. And from what I understand they will make it so hard for people to live in society without a chip, that people will almost have to have one or face living a hard life cast out from society. No matter what they do or how hard they make it to live without one, I wont do it. IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted January 27, 2005 12:52 AM
I'm trying to find the article I read where something like this was already being implemented into some schools in England.I dont even own a credit card - and never will, never mind a chip in my hand. IP: Logged |
NeoKitty
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posted January 27, 2005 01:00 AM
Exactly- I couldn't imagine anything worse.Once I had a birth control implant in my arm- I coulnd't stand it- I felt like a guniea pig, so I had it removed. IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted January 27, 2005 01:21 AM
I found an interesting link, havent explored it much yet though. http://www.av1611.org/666/ I dont, and wont ever again, take any form of birth control. I did once very briefly, and didnt like the side effects. Luckily I have never gotten pregnant (I dont believe it is really luck though). I do believe I have complete control over my body, and everything that happens to it. So I do. And when I, the other person, and the soul to be born, make the choice and decide the time is right for all involved, then it will happen. So far it has worked. Or I'm just reeeally lucky.  But I feel strongly, that it is not just luck. I want it happen only by a conscious choice on my part. And of course the others choice's come into play. IP: Logged |
Saffron
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posted January 27, 2005 01:38 AM
where will you go? do you have a plan....do you know of these communities, specifically?i would think there would be many of them. but really...are you actually prepared for this event, knowing where you would go and what you would do? IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted January 27, 2005 01:46 AM
I have a few ideas of where I would go.I also think that there would be an uprising of people that would band together and form their own communities. Yes, I'm prepared. And I dont always need to know exactly what I would do. I usually dont fret about things. I fully trust in myself and higher power to always lead me in the right direction and be at the right places at the right times to lead me to the best circumstances for me. I will always have the ways and means to be where I need or want to be. Ask for a sign or some help and watch the Universe provide it. I also know alot about wilderness survival and know that if I had to, could tough out just about anything.  What are your thoughts on this subject? IP: Logged |
Saffron
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posted January 27, 2005 01:59 AM
yes, that's good 26T, about trusting yourself to know where you need to be...i've learned somewhat to allow my life to unfold this way, and it's a truth-filled path, for sure.i guess i'm looking for an absolute answer to a question with consequences such as these. i don't have a clue where i could run in an event such as this. i mean, will we have any warning....will people make alternative communities known and available? it seems such a big secret, which actually makes sense, but i've asked these questions repeatedly when discussing issues such as these, and i never get more than a vague answer. mostly just the fear inducing scenario and 'be prepared'. ok, so i should begin by growing my own food and collecting survival supplies? how can i rely on finding a community, and even if i could, would they even let me join? my question, i suppose is, how do i go about the task, starting tomorrow, of finding a group of people or community that already is living this way, or has definitive plans and supplies for this event, and what would i need to do to join them? IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted January 27, 2005 02:19 AM
I guess my answer didnt help much because we see things kind of differently. I dont think there is ever an "absolute answer" for anything. Right now we are not fully in the midst of this probable situation, so it's hard to make definite decisions or give concrete advice. I think if the event took place that is when the "answers" would start coming to light. There will be different "answers" or ways of going about things, for different people. I definitely think alternative communities would be made known and availiable for people that were against getting a chip implanted in them. I think large numbers of people would be outraged and completely revolt against having to have a mandatory chip implanted in them. You wouldnt be left behind. It's hard to say for sure what would happen because we dont know how exactly - or IF - this is going to play out.
It hasnt really started happening yet, so how can we know what exactly we will do. We dont know. All we can do it trust that we will be taken care of. To me, that is the best thing you can do for yourself. If you really wanted to, I'm sure you could do a little research and find out what others plan to do if this were to happen. If there is one person out there who feels the way you do, then there are probably many more. And I'm sure they are making plans and getting prepared for this and many other kind of catastrophic situations. Personally I dont go about things like that. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone, I just go about things my own way and really dont have an opinion on how others should go about their business. The answers you need are within your reach. I'm not growing or hoarding any food or supplies or anything like that. That to me, shows that I'm scared. And I would then be in a fear mode and attract fearful things and circumstances to me. This whole thing doesnt scare me. It sickens me but doesnt scare me. I truly feel I always have what I need and always will. I've been in enough situations to know that once you start worrying, trying to plan and not trusting that things are working out - you are only making it that much harder on yourself and all the plans you made get changed anyway. If you worry about things, you will attract negative situations to you that will fulfil your worrying needs. If you know everything is always going to be alright, then it will be. That's all I can say. IP: Logged |
Saffron
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posted January 27, 2005 02:36 AM
thanks for your reply. i do, in essence, understand your stance. i believe in your non-acquiescence to fear. when i find myself with these kind of questions, i remind myself of what you have said...to trust that i'll know at the time of what needs to be done.still though, it's a little different when you're responsible for a child. some planning becomes necessary, as well as some precautionary behavior. it's naturally so. and perhaps this is what i need to experience in my life right now. it's why i am where i am. and i'm wondering, when the time arrives, is it possible that i will join a community that has made these preparations and has toiled diligently to do so. i suppose they will have been lead in that direction as well. so all in all, you're right. simply listen to your heart. sometimes i think my heart is telling me to go out and buy an orange tree. IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted January 27, 2005 02:57 AM
I totally understand where you are coming from, even though I dont have a child, I do understand your concerns. I too, often have to remind myself of the things I said above. Slowly they are becoming more and more a part of my consciousness. Or I am slowly letting them be uncovered. It's part of walking the path - disciplining, re-awakening and reforming your thoughts. And developing complete trust. I know you will be alright, we all will. I think you know this too. IP: Logged |
geminstone
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posted January 27, 2005 07:26 AM
Hello All,
Hope you don't mind my ' cutting in ' here.
26 Taurus, you are, definitly, wise to NEVER possess the means to say, " Don't sweat it, I got CREDIT! ". Stick to that notion you have, they are evil. )
I had heard of the ' chip ', a few years ago and, since then, have had it, always, in my conscience. I believe in it becoming reality, at some point. It's already been preceeded by the Euro, and the idea of a unified currency. I had heard about a family, I think over in Europe, having a chip implanted in their, early, teenaged daughter; sorta like, ' OnStar ', for your kids. Now, I will say that, being a mother of 2, I was really curious before hearing about this, why people were more worried about their freakin' cars, than their own offspring....?( And, I have, I am told, an odd connection to and, affinity, for my truck 8-} ). Then again, it is, ssoooo, incredibly sad, that we live in a time that, this kind of idea is even entertained; but, .... I did :I I recall, the outcome of the chipped teenager, dissolved into the various ideas of the definition of ' privacy '. I agree, in terms of ' Big Brother '. As far as my 8 and 6 year old; I am still out on what I think about ' OnStar '- ing. In my opinion, the pros are outweighing the cons but, there is a part of me that hates,... to let this reality win :-/
I know that they won't be sportin' one to be ' able ' though!
Hey 26, have you heard of the ' Dead Sea Scrolls' ? I have been searching for it; it's a book that is no longer in print. Very Interesting, I recall. Weird stuff.
Well, I've run on here and, even, kinda, veered off course there,... sorry! I gotta go get it together here.
Thanks for the topic! It's a great one to get the wheels turning on!~geminstone IP: Logged |
Saffron
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posted January 27, 2005 07:45 AM
i've tried a little research here, but i haven't come up with much. in a sense, i think neokitty's initial post could consititute a kind of wake-up call. it inspired me to rethink these things and in looking around i mostly found numerous people who believe this event is near. and i know some people who believe this also, but who really don't care.perhaps it's this current awareness that's giving me the impetus to search for answers. while i hope not to be motivated by fear, i would like to think that i've given reasonable consideration to this issue, so that i'll know what to expect. in kind of the same way i take vitamins and supplements, to correct and prevent physical maladies. and apparently implanting chips in animals and pets is common practice nowadays. so again, i'm wondering where to find information on an alternative to this chip thingy. admittedly, i need to do more research, but i don't even know where to begin. IP: Logged |
maklhouf
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posted January 27, 2005 09:40 AM
It is easy to talk about mobilising against a chip in the future. The question is, what are we doing NOW to curb the inexorable erosion of our freedoms that will unfailingly lead to widespread acceptance of chips etc. in the future?IP: Logged |
Saffron
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posted January 27, 2005 10:21 AM
good question...IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted January 27, 2005 02:21 PM
Yes, nice question.I'm not doing much about that. Because I dont see any ways to go about stopping it. I think it would happen no matter what. Maybe there are things that can be done. I dont know what they are and usually find that if the government has it's mind set on doing something - they dont give a damn about what we do or say. I dont think we have a say in many matters, although they let us think we do. We do have a say in if we choose to have something implanted in our bodies. Though I'm sure they are going to make it seem like we don't. What do you think can be done about it NOW maklouf? IP: Logged |
NeoKitty
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posted January 27, 2005 06:05 PM
An agenda is an agenda- and I know it sounds sad, but I know it cannot be prevented.
It's the technology era, and terrorism 'is' a threat, and a cashless society seems like a great idea to most people.
I don’t' think that many would refuse. I know a lot will- but the majority wont.They conducted a test study in America, and 5000 people put their hands up because they thought it was such a great idea. Also seen as Cool by most of the youth. Already in England (when I find the article I’ll post it) they have nightclubs where you can get a chip implanted that records your favourite drink so the bar maid knows as soon as you enter the premises, what drink to bring you. This IS almost ready to be implemented. Terrorism is the number 1 reason why. FEAR will be why. I wouldn't be surprised if a few more cities were blown up due to this agenda. That's a far-out statement- but the people behind the agenda need to convince the mass it's the safest, and most logical thing to do.
If we could prevent terrorism 100%- who would say no?
If we can reduce costs of living, and have all our identity in one place, who would say no?
The thing is- I don't even feel very pre-pared for it.
You will need this chip to live in society. Or you'll be an outcaste- and probably jailed. Who knows? I know people who are ready for things such as this- these are people who were once in military intelligence- and I know they know what they are talking about.
It will be in the next 10-20 years...not very far away... I know my destiny doesn't involve one of these chips, I know if I listen and follow where the path leads I can avoid this. How? I don't know...But I'm ready to face the hardship. Life isn't about (for me) conforming and becoming conditioned into the nothingness of society- become a consumer robot. If I have to run, and live poorly- I will, because I'll still have my soul.
Symbolically speaking.
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"And dreams, don't ever forget, are the first step in manifesting wishes into reality"-- Linda Goodman's Star Signs
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Saffron
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posted January 27, 2005 06:24 PM
thanks NeoK...i saw a CSI episode that featured the same thing in bars...people had implanted chips with an account number so that they could get into clubs and buy drinks just by having their foreheads or chests, or something...scanned. this episode took place in Florida, USA. scary!surely enough people will protest this not to be jailed...already there are people refusing to be 'slaves to the state' as they put it. they live without ssns, bank accounts, driver's licenses, etc... they still use cash though, and buy and sell and do business. i'm sure they must have a plan for living in a cashless society. they even list law firms who support their rights to live this way...banks cannot require a ssn for an account, they can deny a request based on 'high risk' and lack of a ssn might contribute to this, but they cannot 'require' it to open an account. they can open an account for someone without the ssn, if they want to. there do exist law firms that advise on this and related items. a lot of people pursuing this lifestyle are very religious in nature... anyway, thanks for starting this topic! IP: Logged |
TINK
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posted January 27, 2005 08:28 PM
maklhouf, I don't think there is one damn thing you or I or anyone else could do. Who are we to say when and where Gabriel will blow his trumpet?saffron, I would humbly say this: prepare the spirit , all else is secondary and will fall in place accordingly. 26, I hear you  and I'll meet you there. IP: Logged |
NeoKitty
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posted January 27, 2005 10:23 PM
Tink That's sound advice- prepare your spirit and everything will unfold as it should.I'm so glad other's are following their Truth on this matter...bless all of you.  ------------------
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Saffron
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posted January 27, 2005 10:43 PM
ok, i guess i'm the one behind here...and i apologize to those whose words may be going over my head...but i'm really trying to understand this and take it seriously.how do you mean, prepare the spirit? see through the eyes of a child? tune in to my higher self? establish a closer connection with God or Goddess? let Jesus into my heart? have faith in the Universe? i'm sorry i seem the only one who needs such clarification. am i simply one of the damned, since i just don't follow here as well as everyone else does? IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted January 27, 2005 10:54 PM
Hi geminstone ,
Always feel free to cut in anywhere here. Yes, I've heard of the "OnStar" type device that they are trying to implement by invoking fear and telling the parents their kids should have one in case they get kidnapped. I feel exactly the same way when you said, "it is, ssoooo, incredibly sad, that we live in a time that, this kind of idea is even entertained". My thoughts exactly. Also, I'm sorry but when I do have a kid, he wont ever be kidnapped because it wont be in either of our consciousnesses. Our thoughts wont entertain the idea, so it will not happen. Simple as that. Your thoughts create your reality. On some level, you chose every single thing that happens to you - positive or negative. You are not at the mercy of kidnappers or anything else, if you so chose not to be. If you start thinking "Oh no, what if my child gets kidnapped. Maybe I do need to get this chip implanted in him." You have just started a possible manifestation of that reality. Your thoughts go out and then start to take place. God, that really gets me going. How people dont realize this yet and would fall for this type of thing. They are going to use all kinds of scare tactics to try and get this into place. Dont fall for it. I HAVE *heard* of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but I havent read anything about it. I believe a friend of my mother's wrote a book about them. I'll look into it and tell you what I find out. Neo, great thoughts. Mine are similar and I think you spoke alot of truth there. Ahhh Tink. Yes. I'll see you there. ------------------
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26taurus
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posted January 27, 2005 11:00 PM
Hi Saffron. I just saw your post.
I think she means that by taking care of yourself, your inner self - by working on that, it allows all of the outer to fall into place. You create your reality. So by developing the spirit self, you can then feel secure in all other aspects of your life.Your world, your outer reality comes from within you. So when you are secure within all is secured without. (I dont mean to imply that you are not secure) Something along those lines. Tink will correct me if I'm wrong. Also you said: quote:
how do you mean, prepare the spirit? see through the eyes of a child? tune in to my higher self? establish a closer connection with God or Goddess? let Jesus into my heart? have faith in the Universe?
Yes, I think that is what she is talking about. And I'd say that those are definitely some the ways to go. IP: Logged |
TINK
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posted January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
"how do you mean, prepare the spirit? see through the eyes of a child? tune in to my higher self? establish a closer connection with God or Goddess? let Jesus into my heart? have faith in the Universe?"hmmmm  do I detect a slight note of sarcasm? Or are you fishing? saffron, I don't think there is anyone left on this board who has even come close to fully cleansing the Spirit. I don't think anyone here would claim to. But I also think that most, including you I imagine, at least know how to start. The Big Guys (Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed, Lao Tzu, Krishna, etc.) left clues all over the place. Pick one. "knock and the door shall be opened unto you" How many knock? How many really want the door to open? Most of the souls I've met, myself included, are more than a little concerned about what might be on the other side. IP: Logged | |
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