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Topic: The New Zoo Revue
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dafremen Knowflake Posts: 1417 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 12, 2005 12:21 PM
Ever wonder when dance stopped being the pure expression of our hopes and emotions and became merely an advertisement for our bodies and their sexuality? When did we stop letting our souls come through?Ever wonder if perhaps we're many times more amazing as human beings than the cheapening experience of living in our so-called "civilized society" has led us to believe we are? I wonder, sometimes, if at that earliest step from primal to human awareness...the earliest moments of our common history as a race...I wonder if we actually valued our human qualities more? If perhaps, surrounded by only the animals in nature, our humanity (that which DISTINGUISHES us from animals) was more easily recognized? Perhaps even more cherished once recognized? I wonder if, at that earliest time, people held their humanity most dear because the animals all around served to remind them that their human qualities represented nature's IMPROVEMENTS over animal life? I mean, isn't that what our finest traits really are? Indicators of our common evolutionary direction? We've gone from being all-consuming sludge to...to what? How'd we lose sight of our direction? WHEN did we lose our way? I wonder if being surrounded by other human beings in such abundance has made that which is progressive, rare and precious in nature..seem cheap? Perhaps being surrounded by animals had its benefits? Guess the good new is: we're almost there again. This time, the animals are us. Yea..it sure makes me wonder..will we recognize our finest through our conditioning anymore? Or are we forever jaded? Will evolution's promptings be found just a bit too campy, sugary and nice for most of us? Let's find out. Bring on the hedonism, greed, materialism and indifference. Let the beasts among us fall to their knees and bray that we might see what we aren't...to know what we are. daf (braying softly) IP: Logged |
salome Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Nov 2005
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posted December 12, 2005 12:47 PM
Candy Everybody WantsIf lust and hate is the candy, if blood and love tastes so sweet, then we give 'em what they want. Hey, hey, give 'em what they want. So their eyes are growing hazy 'cos they wanna turn it on, so their minds are soft and lazy. Well, hey, give 'em what they want. If lust and hate is the candy, if blood and love tastes so sweet, then we give 'em what they want. So their eyes are growing hazy 'cos they wanna turn it on, so their minds are soft and lazy. Well... who do you want to blame? Hey, hey, give 'em what they want. If lust and hate is the candy, if blood and love tastes so sweet, then we give 'em what they want. So their eyes are growing hazy 'cos they wanna turn it on, so their minds are soft and lazy. Well... who do you want to blame? 10,000 Maniacs
------------------ We used to worship God as a mother Now look at what we're doing to each other
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Petron Knowflake Posts: 3031 From: Paradise Registered: Mar 2004
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posted December 12, 2005 05:02 PM
quote: Ostriches are the only birds to dance at times other than at mating. Holtzhausen and Kotze from South Africa say: "Especially in the early morning, a few birds in a group will suddenly receive a mystic, inaudible cue and begin to dance in circles on tip-toes, with outspread wings. Very soon the whole group will join spontaneously in the twirling dance. This may be a primeval urge or simply an expression of the joy of being alive." In farms, these mighty birds have no reason to dance. They can become so depressed that they stop eating and starve themselves to death. http://www.viva.org.uk/campaigns/exoticmeat/waitrose_doa.htm .
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artlovesdawn Knowflake Posts: 1177 From: Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 14, 2005 06:00 PM
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dafremen Knowflake Posts: 1417 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 16, 2005 03:24 PM
Hi artlovesdawn,It's difficult to answer your question, partly because how do you distinguish between the acts which are purely animal, and those which are human, filtered through an animal brain? The great philosophies down through the ages have provided us with clues: Reduce consumption Put thoughts of others foremost in your heart Forgive Move, do and give, rather than sitting, wanting and taking. My dog is my example. He is a pitbull. He is also my archetypal beast. His actions and behaviors are, in many ways, the epitomy of beastly behavior. He cannot resist his urges, his appetites drive him and the consequences mean nothing to him. Rather, his is in the moment consumed by his desires and nothing else matters. He is the dragon and he swallows his own tail daily. Does he have good qualities? Of course. Is the state of being animal one of pure materialism? Yes. Is that evil? Well no...but it's not conducive to evolutionary advancement either.
Anyhow, running out of time right now. Perhaps we'll revisit this as time allows. Perhaps not. You decide. df IP: Logged |
artlovesdawn Knowflake Posts: 1177 From: Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 17, 2005 01:14 AM
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Nephthys Moderator Posts: 3565 From: California Registered: Oct 2001
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posted December 17, 2005 03:58 PM
Perhaps I can be of some assistance. We are all animals. We come from the; Kingdom Animalia Phylum Chordata Subphylum Vertebrata Class Mammalia Order Primates Family Hominidae Genus Homo Species Homo sapiens Yes, indeedy IP: Logged |
artlovesdawn Knowflake Posts: 1177 From: Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 19, 2005 07:28 AM
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lotusheartone unregistered
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posted December 19, 2005 11:07 AM
We are not animals, Darwin's theory in our human case is wrong we are chidren of GOD Star Seeds My onion!IP: Logged |
dafremen Knowflake Posts: 1417 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 19, 2005 06:50 PM
Perhaps, on some distant day, we will be thought of as a "missing link." That step in the evolutionary process between material, animal beings...and something else...something beyond human-animal.daf IP: Logged |
dafremen Knowflake Posts: 1417 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 19, 2005 06:53 PM
Your question has had me thinking. What WOULD "beastly" behavior boil down to? What would be the simplest way of describing it? I suppose at the core of it, there is that illusory notion that we are separate from one another. The exact same act could be carried out by two different people and one could be more human...the other less so..simply as a matter of motivation...intention.daf IP: Logged |
juniperb Knowflake Posts: 6662 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Mar 2002
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posted December 20, 2005 08:01 PM
In defense of the beasts; bee`s gotta make honey & skunks have to spray They are fullfilling their Purpose and in perfect Submission to God. Who/whats`s the beast again love,
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 24766 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 21, 2005 10:13 AM
------------------ "There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
artlovesdawn Knowflake Posts: 1177 From: Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 26, 2005 09:41 AM
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